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senatordave1:
You got me there.I miscalculated but as usual retraced my steps

At least you retraced your step...

Okay why do you hate sen gershom bassey this much

exposition:
Oga 90% of the people you call ayade's men complain and bad mouth him inside their bedrooms!
Immediately that clown stops being the governor he is relocating out of Nigeria!even his village people don't like him!
Except his brothers and relatives!

Yes,we thought so before last year polls but he won easily using those same men.
Ayade dey show joy to his men,what does gershom give to his men,shishi.this will be the deciding factor.na obudu still give am the highest vote while gershom lost the two lgas he claimed to come from

senatordave1:
Thankful to wike or onnoghen? My brother,your facts are usually untrue,sorry to say.you usually depend on what people you know there tell you,you hardly hear from the twi sides.you don't weigh the two sides or even compare the political structure of all the actors involved.
Though I may want apc to triumph,I also look at what pdp has in their arsenal.you dislike ayade and believes he has lost out totally from pdp.you have failed to look at his capabilities and capacity.you are not even looking at gershom basset's capability. So you see,you don't know what is on ground.there is a reason why the voting population of northern crs has ballooned.ayade whether he had his way in pdp or not will go into oblivion like duke,the only difference is what damage he will do before he leaves

See...this your goalpost shifting will not help you.

I have told you times without number, your smearing of GB will not do any harm to him. I am not after GB, I am after paralysing a Prof who knows next to nothing about governance.
To throw your party men under the bus?
Yet you supported the humbling of Ambode.

What manner of doublespeak is this?
Wike & Onnoghen, no be the same soup dem dey lick?

Please glorify Ayade all you want, it takes nothing of the fact that he didn't behave well and the rug was pulled off his feet.

The time he should use for politicking, he was using for packing money in droves, without recourse to anything.

How come all the PDP leaders dislike him, including in his native Obudu. Was it not that same place that a DPO was killed, and he smiled away.

I have said what you want.
Try to spin and spin....it will not help.

I am suppose to be hearing from you whom the APC your party will field.

Focus on that.

Blackking98:
especially in the SS, the party reigns supreme, senatordave1 go n ask uduaghan in Delta howfar or those defectors in bayelsa how market dey, I need not mention the uncommon defector who was beaten black n blue. If ayade keeps fighting imoke, Sandy,Donald, gershom etc he will loose out in PDP because wike doesn't even like him and we both know wike control's wadata plaza so his only hope is going to APC and we know it's suicidal in the SS, he'll also have to ask akpabio,sylva, Ameachi and the former govenors how many elections They've won in the SS since leaving PDP. I know u want him to defect to APC. Also if he joins APC, aside from APC wanting to have another state in the SS why else does he think he'll have federal government influence, by 2023 sef APC will be too busy fighting on many front's to influence anything for him in a CORE PDP state like Cross River.

The ss people are warming up to apc gradually.the bayelsa elections showed you the capability of the party.even if they repeat that elections today,the governor will still be disgraced.the federal government don't need to help him,all he needs is security forces and a popular candidate from the south and pdp is in trouble.he already has the financial muscle.

But this is not really about ayade joining apc.its about a good candidate succeeding him.gershom cannot succeed ayade.any good candidate apart from him in pdp can fly the flag even an akwa ibomite,I don't care.ayade can only defect if gershom will likely take the pdp ticket and if he plays his cards well in apc,pdp can lose the state.I hope you understand me

senatordave1:
You got me there.I miscalculated but as usual retraced my steps

Very funny.....

senatordave1:
The ss people are warming up to apc gradually.the bayelsa elections showed you the capability of the party.even if they repeat that elections today,the governor will still be disgraced.the federal government don't need to help him,all he needs is security forces and a popular candidate from the south and pdp is in trouble.he already has the financial muscle.

But this is not really about ayade joining apc.its about a good candidate succeeding him.gershom cannot succeed ayade.any good candidate apart from him in pdp can fly the flag even an akwa ibomite,I don't care.ayade can only defect if gershom will likely take the pdp ticket and if he plays his cards well in apc,pdp can lose the state.I hope you understand me

Listen to yourself, then go back and read your previous comments on other states.

I remember Imo.....you threw good governance out of the window saying its APC or nothing.

I am just smh.....so you know about good governance because the schemer has been taught lesson 101.

Now, I know better.

fergie001:
See...this your goalpost shifting will not help you.

I have told you times without number, your smearing of GB will not do any harm to him. I am not after GB, I am after paralysing a Prof who knows next to nothing about governance.
To throw your party men under the bus?
Yet you supported the humbling of Ambode.

What manner of doublespeak is this?
Wike & Onnoghen, no be the same soup dem dey lick?

Please glorify Ayade all you want, it takes nothing of the fact that he didn't behave well and the rug was pulled off his feet.

The time he should use for politicking, he was using for packing money in droves, without recourse to anything.

How come all the PDP leaders dislike him, including in his native Obudu. Was it not that same place that a DPO was killed, and he smiled away.

I have said what you want.
Try to spin and spin....it will not help.

I am suppose to be hearing from you whom the APC your party will field.

Focus on that.

A failure cannot succeed ayade.I never said anything concerning ambode matter please. I am not really concerned on apc taking over crs but if ayade joins the party,it is very possible.take note.yahaya bello and your governor failed and they won by a landslide.not all pdp leaders dislike him,mind you.only those that are pro imoke dislike him.2023 polls will mostly be about popularity and no more party.things are changing.gershom is a paperweight without external support

fergie001:
Listen to yourself, then go back and read your previous comments on other states.

I remember Imo.....you threw good governance out of the window saying its APC or nothing.

I am just smh.....so you know about good governance because the schemer has been taught lesson 101.

Now, I know better.

Why not allow him respond na? What was the guarantee that ihedioha would make a good governor? See,the days where flying apc or pdp ticket automatically means victory is about to end

Bobbyfreshhh:
At least you retraced your step...

Okay why do you hate sen gershom bassey this much

Why do most crs people dislike gershom? Gershom played his cards too early,a darkhorse will likely emerge just as ayade did

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Why not allow him respond na? What was the guarantee that ihedioha would make a good governor?

But did you give him that chance?
Did you ever contemplate about Governance during Imo guber irrespective of how Rochas performed?

When its an APC state, they should retain it.
When its PDP, good governance. This is 2020...eyes don open o.

Now you are screaming good governance, we hear you.

In Imo party came first for you irrespective who was on the ballot.

So take your own medicine.

See,the days where flying apc or pdp ticket automatically means victory is about to end

You now know because CRS is at stake, anyways you know we are just conversing, you know the reality there.
So let's just make small talk...its allowed.
Until that time comes.......or wait let me ask Akpabio.

senatordave1:
Why do most crs people dislike gershom? Gershom played his cards too early,a darkhorse will likely emerge just as ayade did

No doubts, but not from Ayade's camp.

Don't forget what Tinubu did to Amosun, by flanking Adeola Olamilekan and bringing in Dapo. (All from same camp, Yayi simply went back to Senate)

senatordave1:
A failure cannot succeed ayade.I never said anything concerning ambode matter please. I am not really concerned on apc taking over crs but if ayade joins the party,it is very possible.take note.yahaya bello and your governor failed and they won by a landslide.not all pdp leaders dislike him,mind you.only those that are pro imoke dislike him.2023 polls will mostly be about popularity and no more party.things are changing.gershom is a paperweight without external support

In Abia, they vote for party. Simple.

Except in Abia North, which is understandable, because they are the least developed zone in the State yet OUK was Gov in 1999.
Yes, the same ouk you worship.
Do you know that in the same zone, there is a LGA without electricity, yet a HoR member there wanted to contest for speakership, she is also in APC.

That aside, sing about GB the way you like.........Ayade will not produce a Gov.

If you know as a Gov, how he goofed to have been played on that ward Congress list...you will pity him.

fergie001:
No doubts, but not from Ayade's camp.

Don't forget what Tinubu did to Amosun, by flanking Adeola Olamilekan and bringing in Dapo. (All from same camp, Yayi simply went back to Senate)

Please please please,stop insulting tinubu.how can you compare a political god to weightless gershom and imoke.its a great disservice.such political tact is non existent in the ss.it is very good for the masses when politicians fight among themselves.
Anyway,I'll have preferred if tinubu had used dapo as a diversion and then yayi emerged.it was the turn of Ogun west

senatordave1:
Please please please,stop insulting tinubu.how can you compare a political god to weightless gershom and imoke.its a great disservice.such political tact is non existent in the ss.it is very good for the masses when politicians fight among themselves.
Anyway,I'll have preferred if tinubu had used dapo as a diversion and then yayi emerged.it was the turn of Ogun west

You always see everything from a position of comparison.

You do this all the time. Sometimes one can compare scenarios.
Everything isn't to compare and contrast all the time.

You have said it before and I don't know why you are going back to it. Gershom isn't politically strong, he is just one of those in the NA plotting that's all.

You are blaming Gershom. What is the Yayi doing? He is the Senator where I live in Lagos, ask anyone who knows or lives there to tell you what he has done?

I have told you all Senators are same. If Lagos West has a Senator, they don't know.

fergie001:
In Abia, they vote for party. Simple.

Except in Abia North, which is understandable, because they are the least developed zone in the State yet OUK was Gov in 1999.
Yes, the same ouk you worship.
Do you know that in the same zone, there is a LGA without electricity, yet a HoR member there wanted to contest for speakership, she is also in APC.

That aside, sing about GB the way you like.........Ayade will not produce a Gov.

If you know as a Gov, how he goofed to have been played on that ward Congress list...you will pity him.

Don't say abians vote based on party except you mean ngwas if not they wouldn't have voted Otti in 2015.in all fairness,ayade singlehandedly trying to produce all the excos means he was always going to be played.if he had carried other stakeholders along,this wouldn't have happened.so it is not shocking,two lists were presented and with him having no friend in wadata,he was always going to lose.

Onyejeocha was always going to win.pdp was always going to win arochukwu/ ohafia that is why I never said anything about that side

fergie001:
You always see everything from a position of comparison.

You do this all the time. Sometimes one can compare scenarios.
Everything isn't to compare and contrast all the time.

You have said it before and I don't know why you are going back to it. Gershom isn't politically strong, he is just one of those in the NA plotting that's all.

You are blaming Gershom. What is the Yayi doing? He is the Senator where I live in Lagos, ask anyone who knows or lives there to tell you what he has done?

I have told you all Senators are same. If Lagos West has a Senator, they don't know.

Am sorry but there's nothing to be done about lagos situation for now.lagos is more developed than crs.they can manage a few failures but CR's cannot.we need to Start getting it right and something can be done about it unlike lagos

fergie001:
But did you give him that chance?
Did you ever contemplate about Governance during Imo guber irrespective of how Rochas performed?

When its an APC state, they should retain it.
When its PDP, good governance. This is 2020...eyes don open o.

Now you are screaming good governance, we hear you.

In Imo party came first for you irrespective who was on the ballot.

So take your own medicine.


You now know because CRS is at stake, anyways you know we are just conversing, you know the reality there.
So let's just make small talk...its allowed.
Until that time comes.......or wait let me ask Akpabio.

In IMO,the candidates were not spectacular therefore I could support anyone.mind you,I never supported hope at first.again,I wanted apc to have at least one governor in the east.honestly,I don't think rochas performed badly as being portrayed.it was exaggerated.ikpeazu that is not doing anything never got such bad publicity.

For akpabio,he had two choices.his senate or deliver 25% for buhari and he sacrificed his senate seat.plus there was a massive gangup and electoral misunderstanding.if ouk and t.orji could win,then nothing would have stopped akpabio.

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ayade singlehandedly trying to produce all the excos means he was always going to be played.if he had carried other stakeholders along,this wouldn't have happened.so it is not shocking,two lists were presented and with him having no friend in wadata,he was always going to lose.

So you know, so what have we been going back-and-forth for?

Don't say abians vote based on party except you mean ngwas if not they wouldn't have voted Otti in 2015.in all fairness,

Abians vote for party.
The ngwans you talk about are not usually interested in politics until 2015 and that was because one of their own was on the ballot.

Secondly, Otti himself was bred in Ngwa. He has always claimed Ngwa from time immemorial. His parents brought him to Ngwa during the Civil War or so.

In the 2019 election, his deputy was from Abia North because he still claims and speaks good Ngwa.

And just like the Bayelsa case, there was heavy sabotage from within, including from the Wabaras. The Presidential fund for Jonathan's re-election for SE was handled by Papa Ukwu, and he did the money vooom. So with Jonathan's loss, they wanted to teach him a bitter lesson.

I don't see it happening again because the money is going round.
Useless people

senatordave1:
The ss people are warming up to apc gradually.the bayelsa elections showed you the capability of the party.even if they repeat that elections today,the governor will still be disgraced.the federal government don't need to help him,all he needs is security forces and a popular candidate from the south and pdp is in trouble.he already has the financial muscle.

But this is not really about ayade joining apc.its about a good candidate succeeding him.gershom cannot succeed ayade.any good candidate apart from him in pdp can fly the flag even an akwa ibomite,I don't care.ayade can only defect if gershom will likely take the pdp ticket and if he plays his cards well in apc,pdp can lose the state.I hope you understand me

oh well no problem. Let's watch

senatordave1:
Yes for the good of the state

how bro

I wish they can bring Donald and akpabio back (although he looted excessively he tried)

senatordave1:
Udom better pass ayade by far but he is still average

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In IMO,the candidates were not spectacular therefore I could support anyone.mind you,I never supported hope at first.again,I wanted apc to have at least one governor in the east.honestly,I don't think rochas performed badly as being portrayed.it was exaggerated.ikpeazu that is not doing anything never got such bad publicity.

I hear, a former Deputy Speaker of the HoR was contesting, a Senator was contesting....and they weren't spectacular.
I hear you.
He did, especially buying off half of Owerri.

For akpabio,he had two choices.his senate or deliver 25% for buhari and he sacrificed his senate seat.plus there was a massive gangup and electoral misunderstanding.if ouk and t.orji could win,then nothing would have stopped akpabio.

Leave all this talk, he didn't stand a chance.
The same rigging method he taught them was used against him

senatordave1:
Am sorry but there's nothing to be done about lagos situation for now.lagos is more developed than crs.they can manage a few failures but CR's cannot.we need to Start getting it right and something can be done about it unlike lagos

It is a PDP state, you are now waxing philosophical.

You know the reality sha....I will just be here smiling.

fergie001:
So you know, so what have we been going back-and-forth for?


Abians vote for party.
The ngwans you talk about are not usually interested in politics until 2015 and that was because one of their own was on the ballot.

Secondly, Otti himself was bred in Ngwa. He has always claimed Ngwa from time immemorial. His parents brought him to Ngwa during the Civil War or so.

In the 2019 election, his deputy was from Abia North because he still claims and speaks good Ngwa.

And just like the Bayelsa case, there was heavy sabotage from within, including from the Wabaras. The Presidential fund for Jonathan's re-election for SE was handled by Papa Ukwu, and he did the money vooom. So with Jonathan's loss, they wanted to teach him a bitter lesson.

I don't see it happening again because the money is going round.
Useless people

I thought the se money was handled by peter obi? Anyway,except ikpeazu decamps,pdp will still rule abia

fergie001:
It is a PDP state, you are now waxing philosophical.

You know the reality sha....I will just be here smiling.

My brother,in reality there's nothing like pdp or apc state.was bauchi and Adamawa not apc states before last year? If bayelsa could be easily taken,then crs might be easy.

senatordave1:
I thought the se money was handled by peter obi? Anyway,except ikpeazu decamps,pdp will still rule abia

No ....you know Peter Obi doesn't do the ruggedity of our average politician.

Papa Ukwu handled it.
What will make him decamp?
Abians don't vote. They vote for us, that's why the Gov has uncountable aides.

senatordave1:
My brother,in reality there's nothing like pdp or apc state.was bauchi and Adamawa not apc states before last year? If bayelsa could be easily taken,then crs might be easy.

Even the two states you mentioned were lost by the APC because of internal sabotage.

Adamawa had the highest number of nominees in Buhari's first term, but the Gov was loathed.
How can Buhari win Adamawa and the following week, they lose Gov'ship.

Abubakar of Bauchi was at constant loggerheads with his party, and especially when it was leaked that his father was Igbira or so.

He also became the emperor and was dealing with party leaders.

If there is no sabotage, once the party is together no wahala.

Have you forgotten what happened to Ike/Chime/Ugwuanyi?

fergie001:
No ....you know Peter Obi doesn't do the ruggedity of our average politician.

Papa Ukwu handled it.
What will make him decamp?
Abians don't vote. They vote for us, that's why the Gov has uncountable aides.

Same applies in crs. Is it orji that is papa ukwu

fergie001:
Even the two states you mentioned were lost by the APC because of internal sabotage.

Adamawa had the highest number of nominees in Buhari's first term, but the Gov was loathed.
How can Buhari win Adamawa and the following week, they lose Gov'ship.

Abubakar of Bauchi was at constant loggerheads with his party, and especially when it was leaked that his father was Igbira or so.

He also became the emperor and was dealing with party leaders.

If there is no sabotage, once the party is together no wahala.

Have you forgotten what happened to Ike/Chime/Ugwuanyi?

Same sabotage is already brewing in crs.buhari didn't win Adamawa.as it stands now,any state can be won by another party once there's internal squabbles or bad performance.I don't see how Enugu relates

senatordave1:
Same applies in crs. Is it orji that is papa ukwu

Yes ooooo.....he has the tallest billboard in Umuahia with his insignia..Papa Ukwu

senatordave1:
Same sabotage is already brewing in crs.buhari didn't win Adamawa.as it stands now,any state can be won by another party once there's internal squabbles or bad performance.I don't see how Enugu relates

Ya....he lost by a small margin.
There is no squabble in CRS.
The party is perfect. There will be concessions here and there. Ayade is done though. The truth is that he is boxed. He didn't perform at alllll.
He should just pack the remaining one and go.

Reminds me of Fashola/Tinubu.
I wonder how CRS does it?
Govs leave there and go to sleep. In Abia, all fmr Govs want to.be jagaban.

There was infighting between Chime and Ekweremadu on who should be the flag bearer of the party. Chime didn't want Ugwuanyi at first.

The same Chime that was used to kick out Okwesilieze Nwodo as PDP national Chair.

Ugwuanyi was Ike's man because he was with Abuja.

Away from politics, I am happy with today's ncdc reports....there is an astronomical rise in discharged cases. Good one.
Waiting for them!

fergie001:
Ya....he lost by a small margin.
There is no squabble in CRS.
The party is perfect. There will be concessions here and there. Ayade is done though. The truth is that he is boxed. He didn't perform at alllll.
He should just pack the remaining one and go.

Reminds me of Fashola/Tinubu.
I wonder how CRS does it?
Govs leave there and go to sleep. In Abia, all fmr Govs want to.be jagaban.

There was infighting between Chime and Ekweremadu on who should be the flag bearer of the party. Chime didn't want Ugwuanyi at first.

The same Chime that was used to kick out Okwesilieze Nwodo as PDP national Chair.

Ugwuanyi was Ike's man because he was with Abuja.

I thought chime brought ugwu while ike retained his seat which chime wanted.
Don't ever underrate or underestimate anybody esp one with power.it is better you overrate so as not to be surprised