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IAF Mi 26

IAF chinooks

IAF / IA Rudra attack helicopter

IA / IAF LCH

IAF HTT40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2cNVWDXGyQ

A good video where one can see how an aircraft is deliberately entered into a spin and then how it is recovered into a safe flight position.

Every good trainer aircraft must have a spin recovery capability.

One major reason for fighter aircraft crashes is because pilots are not able to handle spin . If a fighter enters a spin and pilot is not trained to recover the same , the aircraft will crash.

nemesis8u:
IAF / IA Rudra attack helicopter

Jln115 / Jl115 will tell you this is not an attack helicopter.

Kabe2:


Jln115 / Jl115 will tell you this is not an attack helicopter.

It's semantics actually , intent of use as per end user.

If you ask me I will not consider it as a dedicated attack helicopter , because it was not purpose built to be a dedicated attack helicopter .

It is derived from ALH which is a transport helicopter .

If one wants to be strictly accurate , than dedicated attack helicopters r those which r built as attack helicopter from design stage onwards eg Apache LCH Mi28 etc

nemesis8u:


It's semantics actually , intent of use as per end user.

If you ask me I will not consider it as a dedicated attack helicopter , because it was not purpose built to be a dedicated attack helicopter .

It is derived from ALH which is a transport helicopter .

If one wants to be strictly accurate , than dedicated attack helicopters r those which r built as attack helicopter from design stage onwards eg Apache LCH Mi28 etc

In it's current form as Rudra, what does it do?

Kabe2:


In it's current form as Rudra, what does it do?

Everything from

DEAD
CSFO
SHBO
CSAR
Anti armour
Electronic warfare
Scout
Armed reconnaissance and surveillance
Anti UAV role
Etc

ALH

nemesis8u:


Everything from

DEAD
CSFO
SHBO
CSAR
Anti armour
Electronic warfare
Scout
Armed reconnaissance and surveillance
Anti UAV role
Etc

Meaning it is an attack helicopter. Saying dedicated is just semantics.

Yes I know their are design improvements, including avionics and performance but both the MI-28 and Rudra are attack helicopters.

nemesis8u:
IAF Mi 26

IAF makes it looks sexy. The camo the Algerians put on theirs turn me off a lot.

Kabe2:


Jln115 / Jl115 will tell you this is not an attack helicopter.

yes it's not a dedicated attack helicopter the Rudra is just an armed version of the HAL Dhruv

nemesis8u:


It's semantics actually , intent of use as per end user.

If you ask me I will not consider it as a dedicated attack helicopter , because it was not purpose built to be a dedicated attack helicopter .

It is derived from ALH which is a transport helicopter .

If one wants to be strictly accurate , than dedicated attack helicopters r those which r built as attack helicopter from design stage onwards eg Apache LCH Mi28 etc

lol, kinda backfired on you kabe2

Kabe2:


Meaning it is an attack helicopter. Saying dedicated is just semantics.

Yes I know their are design improvements, including avionics and performance but both the MI-28 and Rudra are attack helicopters.

the Rudra is an armed utility helicopter.....

jln115:
lol, kinda backfired on you kabe2

Semantics, also stop cherry picking responses.


This is everything and more the Rudra can do.

nemesis8u:


Everything from

DEAD
CSFO
SHBO
CSAR
Anti armour
Electronic warfare
Scout
Armed reconnaissance and surveillance
Anti UAV role
Etc

Clearly it is an attack helicopter.

Kabe2:


Semantics, also stop cherry picking responses.


This is everything and more the Rudra can do.



Clearly it is an attack helicopter.

Its a utility helicopter!! hence why it can do many things....that's what utility means!!

jln115:

Its a utility helicopter!! hence why it can do many things....that's what utility means!!

It's an attack helicopter.

Kabe2:


It's an attack helicopter.

mmmm......nope!!

jln115:
the Rudra is an armed utility helicopter.....

Rudra is a specifically factory modified ALH for armed role. It is heavily modified / redesigned ( system level ) to support armed roles. It is assigned to army and Air force ORBATs specifically and purposefully for anti air and counter surface force operations only.

It is not meant for utility roles at all.

DEAD, CSFO, SHBO , CSAR, Anti armour, Electronic warfare, Scout,Armed reconnaissance and surveillance, Anti UAV role etc is not utility roles . All these r dedicated combat missions which only helicopters which r certified , mission equipped and capable to execute r designated to do so.

It can be reconfigured for various combat roles but it cannot be reconfigured to utility roles.

So it is can't be classified as a armed utility helicopter. Its role as per OEM and end user is strictly for combat roles.

ALH is a utility helicopter. It is assigned to logistics units of army and airforce. And ALH can also be armed with HMGs / MMGs / rocket pods ( tender out ) but then it will not be a attack helicopter like Rudra rather it will be what u called as a armed utility helicopter.

UFO !

nemesis8u:
UFO !

Maybe that's what the fvckers used in the video that was released

kemicalreact:
Maybe that's what the fvckers used in the video that was released

That would be a big lol if true

nemesis8u:


Rudra is a specifically factory modified ALH for armed role. It is heavily modified / redesigned ( system level ) to support armed roles. It is assigned to army and Air force ORBATs specifically and purposefully for anti air and counter surface force operations only.

It is not meant for utility roles at all.

DEAD, CSFO, SHBO , CSAR, Anti armour, Electronic warfare, Scout,Armed reconnaissance and surveillance, Anti UAV role etc is not utility roles . All these r dedicated combat missions which only helicopters which r certified , mission equipped and capable to execute r designated to do so.

It can be reconfigured for various combat roles but it cannot be reconfigured to utility roles.

So it is can't be classified as a armed utility helicopter. Its role as per OEM and end user is strictly for combat roles.

ALH is a utility helicopter. It is assigned to logistics units of army and airforce. And ALH can also be armed with HMGs / MMGs / rocket pods ( tender out ) but then it will not be a attack helicopter like Rudra rather it will be what u called as a armed utility helicopter.

Ok so now it is an Attack Helicopter?

bro when you've decided what it is come back to me

off topic.... north korean nuclear program


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBnAZnfNB6U

jln115:
Ok so now it is an Attack Helicopter?

bro when you've decided what it is come back to me

U aiming to play ringa ringa roses with me

Bro when u r clear about the difference between a dedicated attack helicopter and a attack helicopter u can come back to me

nemesis8u:
UFO !

I'd be shocked if this can get 10 metres above the ground.

nemesis8u:


U aiming to play ringa ringa roses with me

Bro when u r clear about the difference between a dedicated attack helicopter and a attack helicopter u can come back to me

Ok so what does an Attack helicopter do that a dedicated AH doesn't do...... Once you've answered that I have one more question

nemesis8u:


U aiming to play ringa ringa roses with me

Bro when u r clear about the difference between a dedicated attack helicopter and a attack helicopter u can come back to me

Jln115, this didn't end well.