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maestroferddi:
Infact, I am enjoying the comic relief....

You had a vague idea that Jesus went to pray in solitude.

You went to town that he was praying like you do...

In the midst of superior srgument, your fallacy and illogicality collapsed like a pack of cards.

You cherry-picked 'fell to his face' but left out sweating blood...What does that do to your ludicrous inference?

Jesus walked on water LITERALLY....How do we know?
We read what came before and what happened after....Peter tried to do likewise...He succeeded intially but began to sink shortly...

Jesus broke/multiplied bread LITERALLY.
There was a crowd...There was a bread-bearing boy...There were leftovers/scraps thereafter...

The same thing applies to the Roman soldier. The context and spectacle left no room for ambiguity.

'Fell to his face' connotes a deep, fervent,reverential, wioshipful prayer. People even roll on the floor,....others put on sack cloth....yet some people strip themselves naked demonstrate humility in prayer to God...

Your convoluted attempt to go back in time to impose Muhammad's Islamic practice on an event that happened over half a millennium earlier is anachronistically absurd....

The truth? Who established it?

The last time I checked you were trying use the Bible to umderpin your blatantly weak submissions.

Quoting the Bible in an attempt to justify/proof Islam is a misadventure that never ends well for the initiator ...

Remaboy:
My brother, don't bother. Islam has been stereotyped to be a terrorist religion WORLDWIDE.
What you are saying doesn't change it, instead more people are becoming convinced day by day.

Most people have probably asked the question why terrorist groups are mostly islamists. Over time, they have been proved right from Twin Tower bombings to Al-Qaeda to Bin Laden to Shekau to Herdsmen.

Most Muslims that were saying 'fanatics' are now tired. Why are there so many fanatics that are out for blood in Islam alone??
Is this how this religion encourages the making of fanatics?
Their killing of infidels is a major sign.

Why did the Quaran order them to kill people? No wonder most terrorist sects say they are doing the work of Allah. Has Allah not instructed them to kill 'infidels'?
Is that a religion of peace indeed?

If you go to YouTube, you would see pranks of someone wearing a Muslim outfit and be giving random people bags. They proceed to throw the bag and run. It's a prank but that just shows the public view of Islamists around the world.

Terrorist, suicide bomber, Jihadist, you name it.

I once saw a video of a guy pretending to be a Muslim traveler. Imagine that nobody wanted to watch his traveling bag. Everyone was forming "I am not staying here for long". Some even left.

This Afghanistan incident is another one added to the list. Somewhere, millions of people that didn't want to believe the stereotype are now convinced. Some of them due to lost of loved ones.
Your brothers don fvck up from time. This stereotype is here to stay.
No matter how you don't want to admit it.

So don't disturb yourself. No be today una start to save face. Infact, most are tired.

Friend22:
I see how you are tiringly try yo prove the verse is other than what it is.

Well, o can see your "superior argument" as being very spotless.

Friend22:
All you just said is siply media brainwashing and lack of objectivity by those folks like you who claim to gave embraced " advanced thinking" when in reality you are grappling with you own preconceived notions.

Lies are what guides most people today because they refuse to think for themselves.

Friend22:
All you just said is siply media brainwashing and lack of objectivity by those folks like you who claim to gave embraced " advanced thinking" when in reality you are grappling with you own preconceived notions.

Lies are what guides most people today because they refuse to think for themselves.

Remaboy:
I am not against Islam, but sometimes I try to find the link between what those guys are doing and their religion, that 'infidel' case is the only one I can grab. Yes, I know/agree that they are brainwashed. Pardon my use of words in that comment. I am not saying Allah promotes them.

Note, I have observed the stereotyping over time but I haven't fallen for it. I only told you what I observed.
You can keep educating people though. But the ratio of every Muslim educating someone, to the ratio of people falling for the stereotype is like 1: a huge number.
As long as some people somewhere are using the name of Allah to kill families and friends in cold blood, this stereotype is only getting stronger.

Yes, it's not supposed to be generalized, but many people have.
That's the sad truth.
I seek to liberate Islamists from this too, but it would take a miracle for a lot of people to suddenly change their minds on this.

maestroferddi:
Why not face me?

maestroferddi:
Are you not funny?

On what authority are averring what the verse is saying?

You have been refuted...Take it in good faith so we can move on.

If you are interest in Christianity, I will volunteer to guide you so that you can see the empirical facts for yourself.

Judeo-Christianity is pristine. It needs nothing from elsewhere to prop it up...

You dont plagiarize and then turn to challenge what you never had...

Friend22:
refuted who?
What a joke.
A verse which clearly illustrated a physical action and you are trying tooth and nail to hide under "historical context."

Or should we agree what happened in that garden where just denotative?

The verse read:"He went a little farther, and fell on his faceand prayed ...father let this cup pass away from me not as I will but as you will"
Msthew 26:39
And you will tell me it has one deceptive histotical context?

You think.you are talking to one those holy ghost filled sheeples?
And this verse was portrayed in the movie "the passion of Christ" I think,now, you want to deceptively claim otherwise.

Friend22:
face you ?
This guy must b a joke
You have not said anything significant you are just hopping around the topic of discussion.

Friend22:
Them blame them not the religion.
We have over a billion Muslims in the world today and you can't use the action of an insignifucant few t justify such stereotypes.
That's my point.

maestroferddi:
Unfortunately, your bile and predilection to violence will not have any serious end product here...

You are asked to demonstrate that Jesus prayed as Muslims prayed and your "proof" is that it was depicted in the film Passion of Christ?!

Come on, dont get mealy-mouthed,.................. come let's do this..

maestroferddi:
What is the topic of discussion?

Remaboy:
Yes, it seems you have a solid point. My apologies for any form of insensitive comments.

Friend22:
And sorry for any untowards comment from me.
You know how it goes now.

Remaboy:
Yes, broda. No problem ✌️

Friend22:
Who is trying to bw mealy mouthed by trying to explain away what is visible to the blind and audible.to the deaf.

Hahahahahaha I laugh really hard when .you are trying all the acrobatic semantics to disloge my points.

I have marshalled every point that is relevant to this discuss , but you choose to turn a blind to all I have been saying.
Well, I can't help your case.

maestroferddi:
You have no case...

You are manufactturing things left, right and center to suit your fancy.

Jesus never did what you are doing because it was never his mode of worship or prayer.

Whoever gave you the idea...

You Muslims appear to revel in the infamy of rummaging/poring over the Bible looking for a vrerse to twist to import authenticity and credibility to your hopeless narrative.

You pilfered a verse of the Bible...You have spent almost 24 hours ploddimg away trying to impose/ascribe a twisted meaning to it...

When you have been confuted, you chose to run amok throwing tantrums and threatening to introduce violence....


Oga, i put it to you that you have lost the plot....

Friend22:
All grammar no understanding.
I only quoted what was right there in your book , but you are the only one trying to bamboozle yourself with this idea that nothing of such was done.

I won't take this whole thing further since we have persons who lie clearly through their teeth and never admit they read upside down.

Where the verse said or even suggest something other what is there beats me.

Well, hiw can i be of help when you confuse yourself that Jesus is God and this same God died(even she we know that God does not die) what can i possibly proffer to at least make the illusion you keepgrasping at go away.

To them wine blood, bread is flesh and when we ask them they resort to false equivalence thinking the are talking to some simpletons.

This strawman attitude is what is actually the bane of christendom.

You manufacture words and sell them to sheeples but the moment you are questioned about your claims you term it violence .

Your thinking patterm is just too on track to even propel whatever evidences you have.

A verse describing an event is seen as other than what it is without paying attention to the words and what it's clearly being depicted.

Friend22:
All grammar no understanding.
I only quoted what was right there in your book , but you are the only one trying to bamboozle yourself with this idea that nothing of such was done.

I won't take this whole thing further since we have persons who lie clearly through their teeth and never admit they read upside down.

Where the verse said or even suggest something other what is there beats me.

Well, hiw can i be of help when you confuse yourself that Jesus is God and this same God died(even she we know that God does not die) what can i possibly proffer to at least make the illusion you keepgrasping at go away.

To them wine blood, bread is flesh and when we ask them they resort to false equivalence thinking the are talking to some simpletons.

This strawman attitude is what is actually the bane of christendom.

You manufacture words and sell them to sheeples but the moment you are questioned about your claims you term it violence .

Your thinking patterm is just too on track to even propel whatever evidences you have.

A verse describing an event is seen as other than what it is without paying attention to the words and what it's clearly being depicted.

Douglaufuoma:
my brother the Bible is not like the Koran, according to book of Ezekiel 8 :15 He asked, “Mortal man, do you see that? You will see even more disgusting things.” 16 So he took me to the inner courtyard of the Temple. There near the entrance of the sanctuary, between the altar and the porch, were about twenty-five men. They had turned their backs to the sanctuary and were bowing low toward the east, worshiping the rising sun.

17 The Lord said to me, “Mortal man, do you see that? These people of Judah are not satisfied with merely doing all the disgusting things you have seen here and with spreading violence throughout the country. No, they must come and do them right here in the Temple and make me even more angry. Look how they insult me in the most offensive way possible! 18 They will feel all the force of my anger. I will not spare them or show them any mercy. They will shout prayers to me as loud as they can, but I will not listen to them.”
u can read for yourself and interpret, if u want I will get the whole verse for u. no Christian commit crime in the name if Jesus, none. if u have seen or heard of share. but I can share thousands of Muslim committing crime in the name of Allah. Christian don't fight for their God, never. if u have seen please share the link, but thousand of Muslim all over the world fight and kill for d course of Allah. Christian uses love and charity to win souls, can u say that to islam. between the Muslim and Christian who are more peaceful, tell yourself the true. look at country like Romania, Vatican city, Switzerland, Poland, Norway, Denmark, Spain, Ecuador, Argentina and other Christian nations. compare them to Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Yemen, Syria and Islamic nations. let's learn to tell ourselves the true, Christian have their own bad side. but will always rebuke any evil we see and praises the right thing