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uvie66:
Right on point, what baffles me however, most of our policy makers have visited and resided in western countries, HOW THEN WILL A FAMILY OF FIVE THAT LIVE IN A FACE TO FACE ON AJEGUNLE AND USES A MAKESHIFT BATHROOM WITH OTHER TENANTS PRACTICE LOCKDOWN. One size does not fit all. It is more akin to say the Nigeria economy is booming or in recession, does it make any difference if over 70% of the population are living on just one dollar a day ? Our social and economic policies should be tailored according to our circumstances, and our environment. No electricity or free broadband and you expect a Man to obey a lockdown. The result will be more unplanned pregnancies.

I think a lot of you are misinformed. The government is not unaware of the plight of those living in such environments.

Locking down in the face of these realities is just an attempt to decrease the number of infection. An attempt to stop the spread in the process of commuting to the city centres, open markets, churches, schools, etc. It's, fine if you and your cotenants in the "face me I face you" apartment contract the virus, just don't take it out to the school, work, church, etc. This was government's initial idea. Same way many of you advised the government to shut the borders and airports.

Our Nigerian leaders no go gree hear , and wike wan lockdown again smh

The truth is that everybody is confused. We don't know what to do again. Stay indoors will lead to mass hunger. Easing lockdown will still lead to mass virus spread and our health officials will be overwhelmed rejecting patients without covid cause of fear. Our health officials have families too who depend on them. Some are breadwinners.
The only solution am still thinking is Stay indoor with mass palliatives from the government. All the recovered stolen funds should be channel to the streets for food. Suspend all road infrastructures for now. Foods should be the urgent matter now if they are planning another lockdown.
All these shall pass

babajero:
You wrote full text book but still sounded empty.

its like a glass of water.. a persimistic dunce sees water in it and call it almost empty while an intelligent optimistic person sees it and calls it almost full

so you replying an "empty comment" shows your low level of maturity and inseciurity

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Sheunma:
you are the misinformed one here. Vomiting and diarrhea are all symptoms of covid19.

According to WHO, the most common symptoms are new and continuous dry cough, fever and tiredness.

Flip Flop bodies that have no consistency in their stance are a danger to humanity. UNICEF, who, un.

uvie66:
According to WHO, the most common symptoms are new and continuous dry cough, fever and tiredness.

they also mentioned fever especially in the evening.. and you just described fever without using the word fever

Acidosis:
What can't you imagine? They didn't just begin to live in that one room apartment.

. May be it's time to consider popular opinions like yours.

You really didn't understand what she meant did you? Lol... She is just saying looking at the present situation in Nigeria, lockdown or no lockdown, the virus would have still spread. The only people who'll have a semblance of REAL lockdown will be the big men living in isolated houses.

How do the "poor" living in those kind of houses she mentioned practice lockdown?

Acidosis:
I think a lot of you are misinformed. The government is not unaware of the plight of those living in such environments.

Locking down in the face of these realities is just an attempt to decrease the number of infection. An attempt to stop the spread in the process of commuting to the city centres, open markets, churches, schools, etc. It's, fine if you and your cotenants in the "face me I face you" apartment contract the virus, just don't take it out to the school, work, church, etc. This was government's initial idea. Same way many of you advised the government to shut the borders and airports.

shut up!!!
you have nothing meaningful to say!

You have my support

Acidosis:
I think a lot of you are misinformed. The government is not unaware of the plight of those living in such environments.

Locking down in the face of these realities is just an attempt to decrease the number of infection. An attempt to stop the spread in the process of commuting to the city centres, open markets, churches, schools, etc. It's, fine if you and your cotenants in the "face me I face you" apartment contract the virus, just don't take it out to the school, work, church, etc. This was government's initial idea. Same way many of you advised the government to shut the borders and airports.

How then do the government know if their policies are working if testing is very low and the data they collate is unreliable, because without testing you don't know who have contracted the disease.

h2selectronics:
Unicef warns lockdown could kill more than Covid-19 as model predicts 1.2 million child deaths

'Indiscriminate lockdowns' are an ineffective way to control Covid and could contribute to a 45 per cent rise in child mortality'

The risk of children dying from malaria, pneumonia or diarrhoea in developing countries is spiralling due to the pandemic and “far outweighs any threat presented by the coronavirus”, Unicef has warned. 

In an exclusive interview Dr Stefan Peterson, chief of health at Unicef, cautioned that the blanket lockdowns imposed in many low and middle income are not an effective way to control Covid-19 and could have deadly repercussions. 

“Indiscriminate lockdown measures do not have an optimal effect on the virus,” he told The Telegraph. “If you’re asking families to stay at home in one room in a slum, without food or water, that won’t limit virus transmission.

“I’m concerned that lockdown measures have been copied between countries for lack of knowing what to do, rarely with any contextualisation for the local situation,” he said.

“One size fits no one. The objective is to slow the virus, not to lockdown people. “We need to lift our eyes and look at the total picture of public health.”

According to a stark report published in Lancet Global Health journal on Wednesday, almost 1.2 million children could die in the next six months due to the disruption to health services and food supplies caused by the coronavirus pandemic. 

The modelling, by researchers at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and Unicef, found that child mortality rates could rise by as much as 45 per cent due to coronavirus-related disruptions, while maternal deaths could increase by almost 39 per cent. 

Dr Peterson said these figures were in part a reflection of stringent restrictions in much of the world that prevent people leaving their homes without documentation, preventing them from accessing essential health care services. 

In some countries the public are also avoiding hospitals and health centres for fear of picking up Covid-19, while services have also been diverted to focus on the pandemic. Vaccination campaigns against diseases including measles have also been disrupted - at least 117 million children worldwide are likely to miss out on routine immunisations this year. 

Dr Peterson warned that these trends have resulted in a reduction in the “effective utilisation of services” - a shift which, in some places, could be more dangerous than the virus itself.  And lockdowns have a heavy economic toll, which could trigger a rise in poverty and malnutrition.

The research looks at the consequences of disruption in 118 low and middle income countries, based on three scenarios. Even in the most optimistic case, where access to health services dropped by 15 per cent and child wasting rose by 10 per cent, an additional 253,500 children and 12,200 mothers died. 

But a worst-case scenario, where services are reduced by 45 per cent and the proportion of children who are wasting grows by 50 per cent, could result in 1.16 million additional child fatalities and 57,000 maternal deaths in just six months. 

The modelling projected that India would see both the largest number of additional deaths in children under five and maternal mortality, followed by Nigeria. Pakistan, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Tanzania and Indonesia are also likely to be hit hard.

Such a situation has some precedent - research has shown that in 2014, during the Ebola outbreak in west Africa, more people died from indirect effects than the disease itself. But the scale of the pandemic means the consequences will be far greater. 

“Ever since we started counting child deaths and maternal mortality, those numbers have been going down and down and down,” said Dr Peterson. “And actually these times are unprecedented becausewe’re very likely to be looking at a scenario where figures are going up.

“That’s not from Covid - Covid is not a children's disease. Yes there are rare instances and we see them publicised across the media. But pneumonia, diarrhoea, measles, death in childbirth, these are the reasons we will see deaths rise,” he said. “These threats far outweighs any threat presented by the coronavirus in low and middle income countries.”

Dr Peterson urged countries not to impose draconian lockdowns, but to focus on identifying hotspots so that regional restrictions less damaging for public health can be introduced. 

He said he was concerned that the current battle against Covid-19 was turning into a “child’s rights crisis” and robbing a generation of their health, education and economic prospects.  

Launching the ‘Save Generation Covid’ campaign, Unicef’s largest appeal in its 73 year history, Sacha Deshmukh, executive director of Unicef UK, added: “This pandemic is having far-reaching consequences for all of us, but it is undoubtedly the biggest and most urgent global crisis children have faced since World War Two.

“We cannot allow almost a decade of progress on ending preventable child deaths to become undone on our watch.”

Source: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/unicef-warns-lockdown-could-kill-covid-19-model-predicts-12/

That was how my mum called me and was begging that I should not fall sick this period

InvertedHammer:
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When I say that Africans are bereft of original ideas, some people will beg to differ. Whatever oyibo people do, Africans will copy and enforce.

Some diseases are more devastating in certain locales than others. If I show up with malaria in any US hospital, I will be treated worse than anyone with Covid-19. The same malaria that Africans treat with OTC medications. If one is diagnosed with asthma in Nigeria, folks watch him or her carefully. The same asthma that kids know the remedy in US because it is very prevalent.

Oyibo said lock people down. Wike went full force. Malaria and typhoid kill more people every year but they don't come with scare tactics. If they like, they can lock down the whole country for one year, Covid-19 can never be eradicated. It has to be managed like other diseases. If someone with underlying renal problem dies from binging on alcohol, we say he died of kidney disease. However, if someone with underlying pulmonary disorder dies from coronavirus compromise, we call it covid-19 death. We blame the catalyst instead of the ailment. It is all game. Coronavirus is real but it is getting more credit that it deserves.

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You are smart!

What exactly are you smoking?

Are blacks not lazy and hungry? What is racist about calling out pretenders! a poor man is a poor man!

People that have never achieved anything significant on earth! Blaming every other race for the poverty and incompetence of their forefathers (who were enslaved to a pulp!) The current generations is still even enslaved to stupor! with all countries governed by blacks wallowing in excruciating poverty everywhere in the world! (No single exception) ... the monkeys are desperate to have US join the list, as if anything good has come out of black leadership anywhere in the world!

Blacks are furked up and own that shit! Stop begging and forcing people to respect you! Respect can only be faked it cannot be coerced! It flows from evidence of exploit!

Learn to suffer fools! Gladly, maybe someday they will be tired of their misery and recieve sense!

Exc2000:



each country needs to have a full policy document and piece of legislation on disaster management, this fire brigade approach is very stupid... we should set up a special fund in case things like this happens, because even after Corrona virus goes, Trump is hell bent on giving us another World War, and I doubt Trump vs China, Russia , Iran nuclear war wouldn't be more catastrophic than Corrona Virus, infact we should thank Corona virus for slowing down tensions between the western power bloc and the eastern power bloc

The sooner we start preparing for Lockdowns and War the better for us all, rather than making silly excuses of hunger , poverty and disease

Whats our excuse as Africans not to prepare, Isreal, Saudi and other middle eastern countries without good soil imported tonnes of fertile soil into their country and now produce more than enough agricultural product that they even export.

yet Africa with the resources are listening to insults from UNICEF saying blacks cant follow simple health guideline because they are lazy and hungry.. the sickening part is many people are already commending UNICEF for calling blacks hungry , lazy people who would prefer a plate of food to keeping healthy during dangerous pandemic

In 2020 white racist Unicef Directors still tells Africans , not to take simple health precaution because they are lazy , hungry poor and stupid, while the Unicef workers conducting this report had since travelled back through their various embassy in Nigeria to go to their own country to observe every health directives including lockdown

Buhari please end the lock down so that Kano and Jigawa people, lagos and ogun people can enjoy free movement and transmit whatever is killing them in hundreds across the entire country from SouthEast to SouthSouth and everywhere, Wike should also open the state borders and let Almajiri bring in food from Kano, last last na una without basic health insurance go suffer pass, Unicef people are already in their various countries 2nd week corona entered Nigeria, observing lockdown, Trump test all staffs and people close to him regularly, and once you are positive you can kiss the white house good bye, he isn't even travelling anymore for November election campaings


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Yampotatocarrot:
You really didn't understand what she meant did you? Lol... She is just saying looking at the present situation in Nigeria, lockdown or no lockdown, the virus would have still spread. The only people who'll have a semblance of REAL lockdown will be the big men living in isolated houses.

How do the "poor" living in those kind of houses she mentioned practice lockdown?

Well since the government failed in the area of providing reasonable palliatives, a lot of people didn't really adhere to most of the lockdown orders. Beyond palliatives, there's also a problem of ignorance fuelled by a high level of illiteracy, which is why people won't adhere to other policies like social distancing, nose masks, hand washing, etc.

uvie66:
Right on point, what baffles me however, most of our policy makers have visited and resided in western countries, HOW THEN WILL A FAMILY OF FIVE THAT LIVE IN A FACE TO FACE ON AJEGUNLE AND USES A MAKESHIFT BATHROOM WITH OTHER TENANTS PRACTICE LOCKDOWN. One size does not fit all. It is more akin to say the Nigeria economy is booming or in recession, does it make any difference if over 70% of the population are living on just one dollar a day ? Our social and economic policies should be tailored according to our circumstances, and our environment. No electricity or free broadband and you expect a Man to obey a lockdown. The result will be more unplanned pregnancies.

God bless you for the part written in capital letters.

Those were the kind of questions I expected the journalists at the PTF briefing to ask those PTF members. But no, most of them were asking useless questions.

Acidosis:
I think a lot of you are misinformed. The government is not unaware of the plight of those living in such environments.

Locking down in the face of these realities is just an attempt to decrease the number of infection. An attempt to stop the spread in the process of commuting to the city centres, open markets, churches, schools, etc. It's, fine if you and your cotenants in the "face me I face you" apartment contract the virus, just don't take it out to the school, work, church, etc. This was government's initial idea. Same way many of you advised the government to shut the borders and airports.

I will disagree with you of course the government are aware, I personally live in London in a household of 4, but when I visit Nigeria I see my relatives that reside in a face to face, what I am essentially saying is Buhari himself will know someone living a life of penury in Daura.

donnie:
GBAM... busted!

They should watch out now, because these wicked men can return to the lab to tweak the virus to get children sick.

It has already started in some western world. Those strong, wealthy and wicked men ain't giving up.

uvie66:
According to WHO, the most common symptoms are new and continuous dry cough, fever and tiredness.

most common, yes! But can covid19 patients have diarrhea and vomiting? Absolutely!

Seizures and breathing problems aren't common symptoms of malaria, for example, but both can and do occur in patients with malaria.

Acidosis:
Well since the government failed in the area of providing reasonable palliatives, a lot of people didn't really adhere to most of the lockdown orders. Beyond palliatives, there's also a problem of ignorance fuelled by a high level of illiteracy, which is why people won't adhere to other policies like social distancing, nose masks, hand washing, etc.

You are very correct. I saw your other post where you said you initially supported the lockdown believing they'll follow it with aggressive testing which unfortunately they didn't. That was a wise statement, Sir.
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Looking at the current situation though, no vaccine or drug in view, plus the low death rate of Covid-19, I'll just suggest they allow things go back to normal. It's not as if you can keep people indoor till a vaccine is discovered

These were the same points Seyi Makinde raised as against total lockdown. Isn't he vindicated? Our leaders level of thinking is low

Acidosis:
I think a lot of you are misinformed. The government is not unaware of the plight of those living in such environments.

Locking down in the face of these realities is just an attempt to decrease the number of infection. An attempt to stop the spread in the process of commuting to the city centres, open markets, churches, schools, etc. It's, fine if you and your cotenants in the "face me I face you" apartment contract the virus, just don't take it out to the school, work, church, etc. This was government's initial idea. Same way many of you advised the government to shut the borders and airports.

in essence you are saying the lockdown policy is designed for the well off.

HeadNigga:
UNICEF is on point. Copying other countries without considering our peculiarities is not a wise decision

A very foolish decision.
True.
Copying and pasting “solutions” from Western nations that have the logistics, infrastructure and economy to manage a draconian lockdown is just foolish.

degbads:
Are we just discovering this? Pastor Chris Oyakhilome already said this, many didn't believe.

And same 95% of them here were criticising him cause they don't normally like to hear anything from a Pastors.

uvie66:
How then do the government know if their policies are working if testing is very low and the data they collate is unreliable, because without testing you don't know who have contracted the disease.

I believe the government is aware that these policies have failed particularly in Lagos.

The moment about 200 of 1300+ samples came positive (and 60% of the positive got infected via community transmission), I lost interest in the idea of lockdown.

I don't see the government improving its testing capacity because it is too late. Thankfully, mortality rate as we were told is low so we would have to somehow live with the virus.

Acidosis:
I believe the government is aware that these policies have failed particularly in Lagos.

The moment about 200 of 1300+ samples came positive (and 60% of the positive got infected via community transmission), I lost interest in the idea of lockdown.

I don't see the government improving its testing capacity because it is too late. Thankfully, mortality rate as we were told is low so we would have to somehow live with the virus.

I concur.

uvie66:
in essence you are saying the lockdown policy is designed for the well off.

No, but I would not be able to convince you on this.

...but I hope you're aware that the decision to shut the airports has affected the well off in a great deal even though it's not targeted at them?

At least we still have people who have small sense in Nigeria.....

just like the illiterate in plateau state, you impose total lock down for 4 out of 7days I n a week and you said 3days is for restocking, wer will pple get the money for restocking if there is no window for economic activities

h2selectronics:
Unicef warns lockdown could kill more than Covid-19 as model predicts 1.2 million child deaths

'Indiscriminate lockdowns' are an ineffective way to control Covid and could contribute to a 45 per cent rise in child mortality'

The risk of children dying from malaria, pneumonia or diarrhoea in developing countries is spiralling due to the pandemic and “far outweighs any threat presented by the coronavirus”, Unicef has warned. 

In an exclusive interview Dr Stefan Peterson, chief of health at Unicef, cautioned that the blanket lockdowns imposed in many low and middle income are not an effective way to control Covid-19 and could have deadly repercussions. 

“Indiscriminate lockdown measures do not have an optimal effect on the virus,” he told The Telegraph. “If you’re asking families to stay at home in one room in a slum, without food or water, that won’t limit virus transmission.

“I’m concerned that lockdown measures have been copied between countries for lack of knowing what to do, rarely with any contextualisation for the local situation,” he said.

“One size fits no one. The objective is to slow the virus, not to lockdown people. “We need to lift our eyes and look at the total picture of public health.”

According to a stark report published in Lancet Global Health journal on Wednesday, almost 1.2 million children could die in the next six months due to the disruption to health services and food supplies caused by the coronavirus pandemic. 

The modelling, by researchers at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and Unicef, found that child mortality rates could rise by as much as 45 per cent due to coronavirus-related disruptions, while maternal deaths could increase by almost 39 per cent. 

Dr Peterson said these figures were in part a reflection of stringent restrictions in much of the world that prevent people leaving their homes without documentation, preventing them from accessing essential health care services. 

In some countries the public are also avoiding hospitals and health centres for fear of picking up Covid-19, while services have also been diverted to focus on the pandemic. Vaccination campaigns against diseases including measles have also been disrupted - at least 117 million children worldwide are likely to miss out on routine immunisations this year. 

Dr Peterson warned that these trends have resulted in a reduction in the “effective utilisation of services” - a shift which, in some places, could be more dangerous than the virus itself.  And lockdowns have a heavy economic toll, which could trigger a rise in poverty and malnutrition.

The research looks at the consequences of disruption in 118 low and middle income countries, based on three scenarios. Even in the most optimistic case, where access to health services dropped by 15 per cent and child wasting rose by 10 per cent, an additional 253,500 children and 12,200 mothers died. 

But a worst-case scenario, where services are reduced by 45 per cent and the proportion of children who are wasting grows by 50 per cent, could result in 1.16 million additional child fatalities and 57,000 maternal deaths in just six months. 

The modelling projected that India would see both the largest number of additional deaths in children under five and maternal mortality, followed by Nigeria. Pakistan, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Tanzania and Indonesia are also likely to be hit hard.

Such a situation has some precedent - research has shown that in 2014, during the Ebola outbreak in west Africa, more people died from indirect effects than the disease itself. But the scale of the pandemic means the consequences will be far greater. 

“Ever since we started counting child deaths and maternal mortality, those numbers have been going down and down and down,” said Dr Peterson. “And actually these times are unprecedented becausewe’re very likely to be looking at a scenario where figures are going up.

“That’s not from Covid - Covid is not a children's disease. Yes there are rare instances and we see them publicised across the media. But pneumonia, diarrhoea, measles, death in childbirth, these are the reasons we will see deaths rise,” he said. “These threats far outweighs any threat presented by the coronavirus in low and middle income countries.”

Dr Peterson urged countries not to impose draconian lockdowns, but to focus on identifying hotspots so that regional restrictions less damaging for public health can be introduced. 

He said he was concerned that the current battle against Covid-19 was turning into a “child’s rights crisis” and robbing a generation of their health, education and economic prospects.  

Launching the ‘Save Generation Covid’ campaign, Unicef’s largest appeal in its 73 year history, Sacha Deshmukh, executive director of Unicef UK, added: “This pandemic is having far-reaching consequences for all of us, but it is undoubtedly the biggest and most urgent global crisis children have faced since World War Two.

“We cannot allow almost a decade of progress on ending preventable child deaths to become undone on our watch.”

Source: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/unicef-warns-lockdown-could-kill-covid-19-model-predicts-12/

This is the best news I have heard in a long while.
I've been wondering if I am too daft to understand the implications of keeping millions of children out of school and destroying their parents' livelihood.