Y’all better acknowledge Willy2000. He is giving really good information on this thread. Also acknowledge the other people that have contributed to this thread. They all deserve the recognition. Taking time to help people out of their busy schedules is not easy. Thank you guys.

Deltayankeeboi:
So my fellow Nigerians, having carefully gone through all Danielhouston has said about being a refugee/seeking assylum, the summary is that, it is better to be a refugee in Germany than to be a citizen in Nigeria. I mean look at those mouth watering benefits, you get to enjoy better quality of Life there than living in Nigeria.

PS: Emphasis on quality of life.


That is not a tough choice if you ask me, with the crazy and volatile situation of things in our country, most Nigerians will rather go to Germany to be refugees if given the opportunity than to remain in Nigeria as full citizens.

Danielhouston can someone who illegally entered Germany seek refugee status?

I have a friend who entered Italy through Libya back in the days. He is currently in Germany now but has lived in Italy for some years. Is it possible for him to apply for refugee status?

The law says that you are supposed to apply for asylum in the “first safe country” you arrive in. So if you already arrived in Italy you cannot come to Germany to apply. They will send you back to Italy. Same applies to anyone coming from another safe country, trying to apply in Germany or any EU country.
But, I know a Nigerian guy that was living in Italy and applied for asylum here. I don’t know if he was granted or not. I also don’t know how he did it

Are there opportunities for people who study social science courses in Germany?

Is it a must you apply for asylum at the airport? Secondly is citizenship granted after six years as a refugee? Thanks bro for answering.

Danielhouston:
The interview.

On the day of the interview, you’ll have the interviewer, you, your translator, and a witness. The interview will be recorded and all the questions will be asked in German. Whatever you don’t understand, your interpreter will explain to you. This is the most important part of your application.

You will be asked several questions, including your reason for applying for Asylum. You could also be asked to provide proof like video/audio recordings or a police report of the violence you faced. If you don’t have that, no problem. Explain your case anyway. Be sure to explain your story very well because this is the one chance that determines if you will be granted Asylum or not. So prepare for it.

If you have any health problems, you should get a paper from a doctor confirming it. If you are gay, it is not enough to just say you are gay. Anybody can say that. Even straight people lie about being gay, just to get Asylum. So they ask you very specific questions that a gay person should know. They will not ask you about your sex life. That is an invasion of your privacy. You also have to prove that you are being targeted for being gay. A credible story would suffice.

Those who want to talk about Boko Haram and terrorist attack as the reason for your Asylum, don’t even bother wasting your time. Nigeria is deemed a safe country and they will tell you to live in Lagos or another city where there is no Boko haram. Gay people have a strong chance because of Nigeria’s stupid anti-gay law.

The interview can last up to 6 hours or more, depending on what you have to say. There will be breaks in-between. Sometimes they ask you the same questions again, just to see if you’re lying. Of course, a bad liar always forget their stories. If you cannot prove your Nationality, they can go through your phone and even social media to verify your identity.
After the interview, you can leave. Those in camps would go back to their camp. You will then have to wait for the result.

please i want to ask you something please do there put machine on you to check if your lying while asking the questions and also if you choose gay are there going to check you analily to check if your gay.

heniford2:
please i want to ask you something please do there put machine on you to check if your lying while asking the questions and also if you choose gay are there going to check you analily to check if your gay.

He said they don't ask you about of your sexual life, that's personal and using a lie detector is a breach of practice and human right so I think no to both

spankyflex:
Is it a must you apply for asylum at the airport? Secondly is citizenship granted after six years as a refugee? Thanks bro for answering.

This is the kind of thing I don’t like. It took me 1 hour to type and share all of that information for free. The least you can do is READ. Your answer is in the information.

I personally think that a refugee status is better than a student status. Refugees can work full time without restrictions and still go to school. They can also do Ausbildung and take free German language lessons. Refugees have a better chance of staying in Germany than a student. They can apply for WBS, receive unemployment benefits and other things students are not entitled to.
Some students also became refugees.

I must really commend you in taking your time to write and enlighten people about the reality of been a black person in Germany. And I agree with most things and topic you have touched on.

However, most people would take the bolded as absolute while in reality it is not so.

1. No student in his or her right senses would drop student status for Asyl Status - meaning a student status is better.

2. Most black Asyl always have unconscious natural beef for students - Why? You have what takes/would take them years and lots of lying to achieve.

3. In most cases, Asyl process takes 5-10years - a shortcut to a very long Autobahn, many people lose their identity, every educational achievement they have prior to seeking Asyl, hence they could no longer further their education in Germany, all they can do is hustling jobs. Even sometimes after getting your Asyl approved, especially if the person is not working, the person still have restriction of movement - you need approval to travel on holiday, your account is been controlled, you are asked to come to the office every now and then. In short, all your life is been controlled.

Having interacted with lots of blacks Asyl seekers and hearing their stories (both approved and unapproved), I do not wish it for my enemies sef. Noone should take this path except, the person has already given up on his/her dreams and aspirations in life.

Nothing beats relocating abroad legally - (Student, Working Visa, Family Reunion, Visa Lottery, All Point Based Migration-Express Entry, etc).

Danielhouston:


This is the kind of thing I don’t like. It took me 1 hour to type and share all of that information for free. The least you can do is READ. Your answer is in the information.

oh sorry about that.i really didn't understand it.

heniford2:
please i want to ask you something please do there put machine on you to check if your lying while asking the questions and also if you choose gay are there going to check you analily to check if your gay.

They don’t put any machine or lie detector on you. It is not a criminal investigation. You also cannot “choose” gay. Asylum for gay people is reserved for “gay people”. I personally don’t like when straight people lie about being gay, just to get Asylum, especially if they’re homophobic. There are gay people who are truly being oppressed and deserve a chance than mere opportunists.
No, they don’t check your anus or ask how you have sex.

Danielhouston:


They don’t put any machine or lie detector on you. It is not a criminal investigation. You also cannot “choose” gay. Asylum for gay people is reserved for “gay people”. I personally don’t like when straight people lie about being gay, just to get Asylum, especially if they’re homophobic. There are gay people who are truly being oppressed and deserve a chance than mere opportunists.
No, they don’t check your anus or ask how you have sex.

That's the point,most Nigerians are homophobic,yet the will claim they are gay thereby depriving the people who really need protection.

Sodeeqlekan:
Are there opportunities for people who study social science courses in Germany?

Pls reply this

Gcapable:


I must really commend you in taking your time to write and enlighten people about the reality of been a black person in Germany. And I agree with most things and topic you have touched on.

However, most people would take the bolded as absolute while in reality it is not so.

1. No student in his or her right senses would drop student status for Asyl Status - meaning a student status is better.

2. Most black Asyl always have unconscious natural beef for students - Why? You have what takes/would take them years and lots of lying to achieve.

3. In most cases, Asyl process takes 5-10years - a shortcut to a very long Autobahn, many people lose their identity, every educational achievement they have prior to seeking Asyl, hence they could no longer further their education in Germany, all they can do is hustling jobs. Even sometimes after getting your Asyl approved, especially if the person is not working, the person still have restriction of movement - you need approval to travel on holiday, your account is been controlled, you are asked to come to the office every now and then. In short, all your life is been controlled.

Having interacted with lots of blacks Asyl seekers and hearing their stories (both approved and unapproved), I do not wish it for my enemies sef. Noone should take this path except, the person has already given up on his/her dreams and aspirations in life.

Nothing beats relocating abroad legally - (Student, Working Visa, Family Reunion, Visa Lottery, All Point Based Migration-Express Entry, etc).

You just wrote a bunch of nonsense and made me angry. NOTHING you wrote is true. Why do people do this? Why would a refugee lose his previous educational achievement? Who told you they only do hustling jobs and need approval to travel? All a bunch of nonsense.

A refugee DOES NOT lose any educational achievement, whether past, present or future. A refugee can also attend a University like every other student in Germany up to any level they want. They can get ANY job they qualify for.

You also do not need permission to travel. You have freedom of movement. Only people who need permission to travel are those who depend on job center (government assistance) and that applies to EVERYONE, including German citizens who are on job center money. That is because you cannot say you’re unemployed and you’re getting money from the government and traveling as much as you want to enjoy yourself.

So please, get the hell out of this thread with all those lies and misinformation:

spankyflex:
That's the point,most Nigerians are homophobic,yet the will claim they are gay thereby depriving the people who really need protection.

It is really sad.

Sodeeqlekan:

Pls reply this

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Please don’t come here to write nonsense that is not true. I don’t care if your brother’s friend in Germany told you lies and you believed it. Don’t share it with us.
This thread is about honesty and credible information, even the ones we don’t like but are relevant. If the information here is threatening your travel business of scamming people, sorry to you. But don’t come here to mislead people.

Danielhouston:


You just wrote a bunch of nonsense and made me angry. NOTHING you wrote is true. Why do people do this? Why would a refugee lose his previous educational achievement? Who told you they only do hustling jobs and need approval to travel? All a bunch of nonsense.

A refugee DOES NOT lose any educational achievement, whether past, present or future. A refugee can also attend a University like every other student in Germany up to any level they want. They can get ANY job they qualify for.

You also do not need permission to travel. You have freedom of movement. Only people who need permission to travel are those who depend on job center (government assistance) and that applies to EVERYONE, including German citizens who are on job center money. That is because you cannot say you’re unemployed and you’re getting money from the government and traveling as much as you want to enjoy yourself.

So please, get the hell out of this thread with all those lies and misinformation:

Oga you can get angry as much as you want, the truth remains the truth.

This is the last time I will response to this, since you are intolerant of views different from yours.

How many of the black Asyl seekers have eventually gone back to school? Is it the one that has changed name from Solomon to Abubakar to have his Asyl approved or the Nigerian that claim to be from Congo. Please tell your readers how they will attend university as Abubakar with Solomon's credentials.

What is the population of Nigerian Asyl seekers that eventually even learn German talkless of now working professional Jobs?

Finally, I hope you are not confusing Syrian refugees with black asylum seekers? We all know blacks tell all sort of unheard lies to get asylum approved.

What's on paper is always different from reality.

Peace out.

Gcapable:


Oga you can get angry as much as you want, the truth remains the truth.

This is the last time I will response to this, since you are intolerant of views different from yours.

How many of the black Asyl seekers have eventually gone back to school? Is it the one that has changed name from Solomon to Abubakar to have his Asyl approved or the Nigerian that claim to be from Congo. Please tell your readers how they will attend university as Abubakar with Solomon's credentials.

What is the population of Nigerian Asyl seekers that eventually even learn German talkless of now working professional Jobs?

Finally, I hope you are not confusing Syrian refugees with black asylum seekers? We all know blacks tell all sort of unheard lies to get asylum approved.

What's on paper is always different from reality.

Peace out.

Again, nonsense. Anybody who refuses to go to school, that is their choice. Also anybody who changes his name from Solomon to Abubakar, and says he’s from Congo, that is his choice. How does someone’s personal choice affect everybody else? Even a student who uses fake name or passport will have problem when applying for visa. So what’s your point?

So because someone refused to learn German, that should affect all refugees in Germany? What type of nonsense are you talking about?
Anybody who is not qualified for a professional job will not get it. Whether refugee or not. If you’re an illiterate with no degree, refugee will not make you work in a bank.

There’s no difference in Asylum benefits between Syrians and blacks. Refugee is refugee. Doesn’t matter how you came to Germany. If you are granted asylum as a refugee, your rights are the same as every refugee.

Justwise pls get this guy out of this thread. I accept other opinions but I don’t like misinformation just to start sh*t

Let me just add that I am not advising or encouraging anyone to do anything. I am giving you the honest information you need. Whatever choice you make is yours. It is not my job to tell you what to do with your life. I will try my best to share information that can help you succeed.

Gcapable:


Oga you can get angry as much as you want, the truth remains the truth.

This is the last time I will response to this, since you are intolerant of views different from yours.

How many of the black Asyl seekers have eventually gone back to school? Is it the one that has changed name from Solomon to Abubakar to have his Asyl approved or the Nigerian that claim to be from Congo. Please tell your readers how they will attend university as Abubakar with Solomon's credentials.

What is the population of Nigerian Asyl seekers that eventually even learn German talkless of now working professional Jobs?

Finally, I hope you are not confusing Syrian refugees with black asylum seekers? We all know blacks tell all sort of unheard lies to get asylum approved.

What's on paper is always different from reality.

Peace out.

oga go and open ur own trend oh no come the mess up Op trend here oh na dem nonsense

Gcapable:


Oga you can get angry as much as you want, the truth remains the truth.

This is the last time I will response to this, since you are intolerant of views different from yours.

How many of the black Asyl seekers have eventually gone back to school? Is it the one that has changed name from Solomon to Abubakar to have his Asyl approved or the Nigerian that claim to be from Congo. Please tell your readers how they will attend university as Abubakar with Solomon's credentials.

What is the population of Nigerian Asyl seekers that eventually even learn German talkless of now working professional Jobs?

Finally, I hope you are not confusing Syrian refugees with black asylum seekers? We all know blacks tell all sort of unheard lies to get asylum approved.

What's on paper is always different from reality.

Peace out.

Am not in Germany yet, but with my "Common sense" I can tell you, you're not making any sense. Why should someone even change name and identity at the first place?.
Please everything Daniel is telling us here is based on the LEGAL aspect, not some illegal trash people get involved with. And I believe Germany officials are advanced and smart enough to detect false stuffs like that.

UrFears:
Am not in Germany yet, but with my "Common sense" I can tell you, you're not making any sense. Why should someone even change name and identity at the first place?.
Please everything Daniel is telling us here is based on the LEGAL aspect, not some illegal trash people get involved with. And I believe Germany officials are advanced and smart enough to detect false stuffs like that.

Don’t mind him. Those type of people are the ones who do all kinds of illegal nonsense and criminal activities. When it backfires and they pay for their crimes, they start to tell people not to come to Germany... blah blah blah... discouraging people. They will not acknowledge the crime they committed.

I will talk about those type of black people in my next topic.

Looking at what Daniel is saying, it simply means if you apply legally and truthfully to the asylum program, you have as much right as anybody else....Finish

Danielhouston:
Let me just add that I am not advising or encouraging anyone to do anything. I am giving you the honest information you need. Whatever choice you make is yours. It is not my job to tell you what to do with your life. I will try my best to share information that can help you succeed.

Sorry bro if my question upset you. Maybe you're in a bad mood today.

I'll try again later. Thanks

Thanks DanielHouston, please don't let anyone discourage you from posting, many of us are really learning from it.

Cc: Justwise, please can you delete @ Gcapable post, he is spreading false informations and derailing the trend. Thanks.

He’s talking about “Nothing beats relocating abroad legally”. Who told you refugees are illegal? They want to be legal, that is why they’re applying for Asylum. An asylum seeker can arrive Germany on a tourist visa and apply for Asylum before his visa expires. So in no way is such person illegal. Anyhow he arrives Germany is his choice.

Please tell me what benefits students, work visa, family reunion, visa lottery, get that refugees don’t get? Germany does not even offer visa lottery. I don’t know why you mentioned that.
The only thing is that a refugee cannot visit his home country while he’s a refugee. And there are even cases where he is allowed to.

Unlike the other ones you mentioned, a refugee does not have to marry someone just to get document. They already have the documents they need. They can settle down and find someone they truly love to marry. Not fake marriage or having kids for visa.

UrFears:
Thanks DanielHouston, please don't let anyone discourage you from posting, many of us are really learning from it.

Cc: Justwise, please can you delete @ Gcapable post, he is spreading false informations and derailing the trend. Thanks.

No. Justwise should not delete it. A lot people have that same misconception about refugees and it is important that they are corrected. You see some people liked his comment.

I spent 1 year working with refugees as a volunteer and I’m very well informed about the process. I even considered it after my studies but I did not apply because I did not have a reason to. Out of fear of not getting a job and my visa running out, I considered every option. It also exposed me to a lot immigration lawyers, some of whom I now know personally. There’s almost nothing I don’t know about Germany’s immigration system and other laws.

I have lived here for almost 7 years and I’m not just here to exist. I experienced many things and took time to learn everything I could about Germany. That’s how you conquer the system as a black man. With information.

It baffles me when people have these misconceptions without getting proper information and start to spread it.

Leipziig:


Sorry bro if my question upset you. Maybe you're in a bad mood today.

I'll try again later. Thanks

I’m not in a bad mood. What was your question?

willy2000:


If Mr. A finishes and can not secure a job related to his degree, he can still apply for other jobs pending when he can get what he desires. But this is really tricky. The contract has to be approved by the "Bundesagentur für Arbeit"(Federal Ministry for Labour and Social Affairs ). Once the file gets here, the pyramid rule is applied, the ministry will ask Mr. As' employer if there are no Germans or EU citizens who can do that job, most times they send applicants to them if they have, or you get lucky and it is approved, then Mr. A apply for a normal work permit, which is different from the blue card. (it takes longer to get a pr with such work permit).

The second scenario, you apply for a Ph.D. if you were really bright, your professor could give you a contract or find funding for your work. Or you apply for another master.....this is usually the last resort. Mr. A has to sort out his finances, he may be required to block some money in his account, or get an equivalent job contract to show.

can i pm you?

UrFears:
Am not in Germany yet, but with my "Common sense" I can tell you, you're not making any sense. Why should someone even change name and identity at the first place?.
Please everything Daniel is telling us here is based on the LEGAL aspect, not some illegal trash people get involved with. And I believe Germany officials are advanced and smart enough to detect false stuffs like that.

He is right though.

Being a Student is "better" than being an "Asylum seeker". However, being a "Refugee"( as in having your asylum claim/petition approved or at least granted some sort of protection similar to what Refugees receive) is in general "better" than being a Student.

As a "Refugee"( or assimilate), you can stay legally ( indefinitely?) in the country and you have access to all social benefits + free to work, travel or do whatever you want as long as it's lawful.

But, like he said, nowadays, most European countries hardly approve Asylum claims of Africans ( except in some specific cases such as homosexuality, human trafficking or the likes.). So most times, for Africans, seeking Asylum is a waste of time due to the fact that the chances of getting the status of Refugee- or assimilate- are very very slim. Unless they use that time ( it can take years) to seek for other alternatives(work or marriage but it's harder these days ) to get their "stay".

In short ( to me), for an African, it's better to travel to Germany as a Student( vs Asylum seeker except of course, there is a legitimate and full proof case of persecution ). At least with the education you receive, if you can't stay after your studies, you can migrate to other "developed" countries (Loads of Africans in Canada via Express Entry where once students in Europe with no possibility or fewer possibilities to stay in the countries where they studied).
You also have the time( for a genuine student at least) to plan what you are going to do after your studies. Heck even if you don't finish your studies, it's easier to get a visa as a student in another European ( Western country).

With Asylum, If they refuse( the probability of a refusal is close to 90%) your petition, due to what they call "Dublin Case", you can't claim Asylum somewhere else( at least not in Europe).

Of course, while they are reviewing your Asylum claims, in general, they feed, clothe or give you some stipends. You can even work but your life is somewhat "suspended".

Many Asylum seekers end up "trapped" or "illegal" unless they were able to change their status via another legal route( in a lot of cases via marriage but like I said earlier it's harder these days).