₦airaland Forum

Agboriotejoye:
Dats not true. Why has Niger or Mali not used it to transport goods since "nobody get am". Even the Atlantic ocean you talked about, there's a portion of it that belongs to the country closest to it.
If it's international waterway, why did Nigeria build Niger bridge on it and is building another one. Or did they take permission from the international maritime authority before building those bridges? Again, why did we have to enter into a plea with Niger when we wanted to build Niger dam when we could have just approached the international authority to stop Niger from damming their own part of the river. Lastly, why is river Niger under the control of NIWA if it's international waters?

Danube River there are more than 70 bridges from its source in Germany to its mouth in the Black Sea, still it doesn't obstruct cargoes.

post=89744760:
The point is River Niger is already international waterway, The Niger Basin has been governed by a series of agreements in the post-colonial era, one of the already established treaties is "the integral parts of the Niger River, should be open to international traffic, with equal treatment for nationals of all states regarding tolls. The Niger River Commission was also tasked with ensuring the safety and control of navigation and facilitating the movement of vessels." this hasn't been implemented because we are still in one nation , if every regions decide to go their separate ways, know that this is one area east and north will come together, River Niger channel is more important to north, because that's the only river from ocean that transverse to northern states, unlike east with Imo River with shortest route to the sea, north leaders know this, expect few Yorubas that chosen to be ignorant because it will favour Igbos which is more closer to the sea than the north, but the fact they can't change, the already existing treaties than govern Niger Basin Authority, we are still in one nation, that's main reason east and north are reluctant on dredging and maintaining River Niger, mind you
the Lower Niger has been dredged twice, first in 1958 by NEDECO and secondly by a consortium of LCHF/Westminster Dredging Company, in 1978 from Baro through Lokoja to Onitsha, Onya to Warri/Port Harcourt. Due to lack of maintenance, the entire dredged channel has silted up. If Nigeria cease to exist the channel will be fully dredge and maintain to accommodate bigger vessels, it's an international route and nobody will block any of the members of NBA from using, that's if Nigeria cease to exist. Your social media ranting, twisting and fabricating stories to suit your narratives can't change the fact that River Niger is an international waterway, I'm fully aware Imo River with the shortest route from the east to Sea is not yet international. waterway, but till then.

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This one keeps smoking Okija weed, seeing that the Niger Deltans have dared their IPOB Biafrans arses he is bending towards the north to come save their NECK
Look here omo IBO just go and ready your dollars for port usuage, you and the Abokis you wanna join forces with will pay through your noses, whalahi tahliah!

post=89760013:
Danube River there are more than 70 bridges from its source in Germany to its mouth in the Black Sea, still it doesn't obstruct cargoes.

You didn't answer any of my questions. I don't know what you seek to imply with Danube river bridge. Is river Niger high enough for a ship to pass through? If not, are you willing to destroy it to give north access?

rdokoye:
They're not against dominating Igbo people though. They just want to benefit from whatever it is we have to offer.

We offer religious and political balance to the country. We also generate funds for Lagos, which is the only livable city/state in the SW.

Gbam!
You have them well figured.

Agboriotejoye:
You didn't answer any of my questions. I don't know what you seek to imply with Danube river bridge. Is river Niger high enough for a ship to pass through? If not, are you willing to destroy it to give north access?

As a Yoruba, how is all of these any of your concerns? Does River Niger pass through Yorubaland?
Why are you hell bent on taking paracetamol for another Man headache?

Agboriotejoye:
I really don't know how Yorubas got involved in discussion about a river Niger that does not pass through Yoruba land.

I think a more important discussion should be the possibility of navigating the river with the existence of Niger bridge 1&2. Another issue is that of depth and width. The Niger river is known to be shallow and narrow at so many places same with that Imo river. It will be interesting to see if the riverine areas as an independent country will allow dredging with its impact on their already fragile environment.

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International waterway!
International maritime law!
Danube this Danube that!
Shey international law will come and dredge without me agreeing abi?
Let him keep shouting upandan here he very well knows if doesn't pay good money to us, landlocked and Airlocked they will see in full effect

Agboriotejoye:
You didn't answer any of my questions. I don't know what you seek to imply with Danube river bridge. Is river Niger high enough for a ship to pass through? If not, are you willing to destroy it to give north access?

Of course if the River is dredge, dredging of channels helps maintain the ability of small or large ships to get to port, at the moment, ships whose keel descends more than 12.5m underwater a measurement known as the draft have to wait for a high tide, but container vessels with a draft of 15m or more are becoming more common. Duisburg Inner Harbouris inland port in Germany is the world busiest inland, it's connected to the Rhine River, encompasses an area of 89ha, no fewer than 20,000 ships head to the port in Duisburg every year.

NGpatriot:
Paddling canoe up and down their village rivers With bows and spears.

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post=89760013:
Danube River there are more than 70 bridges from its source in Germany to its mouth in the Black Sea, still it doesn't obstruct cargoes.

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When you are done with all this gibberish and weed smoking, below is ur map.
Listen and listen very well whether North or East or the 4k any part of the hinterland, I am the Director General of d port my job is to collect all DIME from all goddamn vessels.
Any 4kin delay in payment means higher payment
You wanna dredge you will dredge my ASS!

post=89744972:
Your bothers are the ones being nuisance, many of them are polytechnic dropouts, they are ignorant and still refused to learn because of hatred, they should care more how their region will fair during post Nigeria era, not Igbos.

Habitual Wailing

nsiba:
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When you are done with all this gibberish and weed smoking, below is ur map.
Listen and listen very well whether North or East or the 4k any part of the hinterland, I am the Director General of d port my job is to collect all DIME from all goddamn vessels.
Any 4kin delay in payment means higher payment
You wanna dredge you will dredge my ASS!

Typical dumb from West bunch of empty brains

post=89762083:
Typical dumb from West bunch of empty brains

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Only dumb house flies gets buried with the corpse..... Ready my dollars or?

rdokoye:
They're not against dominating Igbo people though. They just want to benefit from whatever it is we have to offer.

We offer religious and political balance to the country. We also generate funds for Lagos, which is the only livable city/state in the SW.

LOL. Mention one livable city/state in SE

BlowYourMind:
You mean GOD force you to remain in Nigeria? You develop Lagos too? in the dream I guess, I don't even buy car parts, my mechanic does that, your woman? I don't even care except for the love of my live then, my gorgeous Tina. my major bank is first bank, I don't leave south west and I mostly use my car or chartered vehicle. so forget about your tribe, the only member of your tribe that have lovely impact on me was Tina.

still drooling over her right? and indirectly using our spare parts right? lol.....mugu 101

we keep developing Lagos....ask tinubu your god

post=89761341:
Of course if the River is dredge, dredging of channels helps maintain the ability of small or large ships to get to port, At the moment, ships whose keel descends more than 12.5m underwater a measurement known as the draft have to wait for a high tide, but container vessels with a draft of 15m or more are becoming more common. Duisburg Inner Harbouris inland port in Germany is the world busiest inland, it's connected to the Rhine River, encompasses an area of 89ha, no fewer than 20,000 ships head to the port in Duisburg every year.

These are the questions I asked:
1. Why has Niger or Mali not used it to transport goods since. Even the Atlantic ocean you talked about, there's a portion of it that belongs to the country closest to it.

2. If it's international waterway, why did Nigeria build Niger bridge on it and is building another one. Or did they take permission from the international maritime authority before building those bridges? Again,

3. Why did we have to enter into a plea with Niger when we wanted to build Niger dam when we could have just approached the international authority to stop Niger from damming their own part of the river.

4. Lastly, why is river Niger under the control of NIWA if it's international waters?

I hope you realise you can't dredge that river Niger without the acquiescence of your SS neighbours who will bear the brunt of the flooding that will occur as a result of the dredging or do you think the banks will remain the same if you want to dredge? That will amount to land grabbing.

oyatz:
Again you just confirmed my assertion.




Most Biafrans only abuse and curse people online. They have nothing concrete to prove.

you are the one asserting your own misery. too bad.

Igboid:
As a Yoruba, how is all of these any of your concerns? Does River Niger pass through Yorubaland?
Why are you hell bent on taking paracetamol for another Man headache?

I believe the thread is about educating the westerners and indeed all Nigerians.

Gabkosh:
Osu, the thing they pain am. Leave ilorin, Yoruba is telling in kwara. Ndo. When will you get portharcourt from ikwere and ogoni people.

oh so ikwerre is now Igbo? lol.....mugu look for ilorin and save.

gwafaeziokwu:
After seeing facts as presented by the OP, you want to drag another person into baseless argument with you.

What do you want him to debate with you?

That River Niger do not exist or that there is no international law guilding it. Or you do not understand the assertion that if Nigeria split River Niger is the lifeline of the north in terms of sea access. East has an alternative in Imo river.

Why is it really important to convince us that we are landlocked. Wetin be your own?

They are unity beggars, finding every way to delude us into thinking we won't be able to cater for ourselves because we don't have access to the ocean! Morons!

Misterdhee1:
LOL. Mention one livable city/state in SE

last time we checked, Lagos was the 3RD WORST CITY TO LIVE IN after two Middleeast wartorn cities

gidgiddy:
A landlocked country loses nothing if it has access to the Sea. Should the SE become an independent country, it will still have access to the Sea via River Niger at Onitsha, Oguta in Imo and Obuaku in Abia.

So I wonder why these people keep saying that the SE is landlocked, as if it is a bad thing, when the SE has acces to the Ocean

Right!
1- Oguta in Imo
2- Obuaku in Abia

Again you just confirmed it.




Most of the over zealous Biafran agitators can't debate matters intelligently.

They are only online to insult ,abuse and curse anyone who hold contrary views.

superlightning:
you are the one asserting your own misery. too bad.

oyatz:
Again you just confirmed it.



Most of the over zealous Biafran agitators can't debate matters intelligently.
They are only online to insult ,abuse and curse anyone who hold contrary views.

We abuse but you angels speak kindly right? Delusion at it's best!

MinorityOpinion:
You mean this river lol

This ship will pass through this river.

Oga shut up, stop decieving yourself. See the river here

The political will and commitment of transit states highly conditioned the rights of land-locked states. The denial of free transit, in turn, affects the rights of land-locked states on the different maritime regimes. Land-locked states have no absolute right of access to and from the seas and freedom of transit. Hence, the study concludes that to give practical effect to those rights, negotiating bilateral and multilateral agreements with the transit states has a crucial and irreplaceable role.

http://www.sciencepublishinggroup.com/journal/paperinfo?journalid=202&doi=10.11648/j.ss.20150402.12

Land-locked states have no absolute right of access to and from the seas and freedom of transit.

Again, you can not dictate to sovereign nations what to do with their steams and rivers within their borders and no law under the sun supersedes the rights of sovereign states to manage and regulate the bodies of water flowing through their territory.

LuQuLuQu:
They know River Niger exists. They know all these things. Even the north knows.

We have more than enough resources in the SE
But they feign ignorance of them all cos, they're scared of losing us to our own independence.


But someday soon......

Mirage

Agboriotejoye:
These are the questions I asked:
1. Why has Niger or Mali not used it to transport goods since. Even the Atlantic ocean you talked about, there's a portion of it that belongs to the country closest to it.

2. If it's international waterway, why did Nigeria build Niger bridge on it and is building another one. Or did they take permission from the international maritime authority before building those bridges? Again,

3. Why did we have to enter into a plea with Niger when we wanted to build Niger dam when we could have just approached the international authority to stop Niger from damming their own part of the river.

4. Lastly, why is river Niger under the control of NIWA if it's international waters?

I hope you realise you can't dredge that river Niger without the acquiescence of your SS neighbours who will bear the brunt of the flooding that will occur as a result of the dredging or do you think the banks will remain the same if you want to dredge? That will amount to land grabbing.

Can you go back and read my first post and the treaties, I don't know why hard for you guys to understand, why is Nigeria navy controlling Nigeria coat since it's international waterways?

Gforce2015:
Mirage

Amala and ewedu guzzler

post=89767257:
Can you go back and read my first post and the treaties, I don't know why hard for you guys to understand, why is Nigeria navy controlling Nigeria coat since it's international waterways?

Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ)

The United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) defines an Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) as generally extending 200 nautical miles from shore, within which the coastal state has the right to explore and exploit, and the responsibility to conserve and manage, both living and non-living resources. Some proposals would calibrate certain disciplines depending on whether the subsidized fishing activity takes place within or beyond a member's EEZ.

Nigerian Navy is not controlling any international waterways, what we control is our 200 nautical miles Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ).

We don't control anything over our 200 nautical miles from shore.

Agboriotejoye:
You didn't answer any of my questions. I don't know what you seek to imply with Danube river bridge. Is river Niger high enough for a ship to pass through? If not, are you willing to destroy it to give north access?

You are asking him questions, do you think he will answer you. Stay there bro. Ask him any question and see him talking of European countries. The guy is just shameless.

post=89767257:
Can you go back and read my first post and the treaties, I don't know why hard for you guys to understand, why is Nigeria navy controlling Nigeria coat since it's international waterways?

Thought you're knowledgeable about maritime laws. Every country controls a portion of international waters the size of its footprint on the high seas and oceans. That's why the navy patrols that portion of Atlantic ocean.
Besides, the treaty was among the five or six states that presently host the Niger river. If Nigeria were to breakup, the treaty will need to be ratified by each emerging country before it will be binding on them. That's elementary international law.
That's besides the fact that presently, the treaty itself is without prejudice to the sovereign rights of reach member states over its portion of the river. You should have seen that from your research