₦airaland Forum

superlightning:
last time we checked, Lagos was the 3RD WORST CITY TO LIVE IN after two Middleeast wartorn cities

Agboriotejoye:
Dats not true. Why has Niger or Mali not used it to transport goods since "nobody get am". Even the Atlantic ocean you talked about, there's a portion of it that belongs to the country closest to it.
If it's international waterway, why did Nigeria build Niger bridge on it and is building another one. Or did they take permission from the international maritime authority before building those bridges? Again, why did we have to enter into a plea with Niger when we wanted to build Niger dam when we could have just approached the international authority to stop Niger from damming their own part of the river. Lastly, why is river Niger under the control of NIWA if it's international waters?

superlightning:
We abuse but you angels speak kindly right? Delusion at it's best!

Jasparrow1:
Oga shut up, stop decieving yourself. See the river here

LuQuLuQu:
Amala and ewedu guzzler

NGpatriot:
Anybody of water especially river water that runs through your country is your river, it's under your control and management.

The river in your village is an international waterway also?

What is wrong with you ipobs?

Gforce2015:
Oporopo guzzler, no vex

MinorityOpinion:
That's a lake now!

Agboriotejoye:
Thought you're knowledgeable about maritime laws. Every country controls a portion of international waters the size of its footprint on the high seas and oceans. That's why the navy patrols that portion of Atlantic ocean.

oyatz:
You are comparing oranges with Banana.


A ship sailing to Lagos doesn't pass through territories of Republic of Benin.

Agboriotejoye:
I believe the thread is about educating the westerners and indeed all Nigerians.

oyatz:
You are comparing oranges with Banana.


A ship sailing to Lagos doesn't pass through territories of Republic of Benin.

ProT:
There are other factors to be considered before one takes decisions.
Niger or Mali may not be using the route becos they have other alternative that is cheaper and more convenient; both countries lie very far from the Atlantic and would need to traverse THOUSANDS OF KILOMETERS if they decided to use the route, compared to the SE that would get to the Atlantic after covering less than 100km.

As for building a dam on ur part of the said river, there is no known law that forbids one from doing that, is there?
I'm more concerned about the right of way to use the River, which is what the law is specific about.

ProT:
A lot of folks here have posted proofs designating the River Niger as an international waterway; they went further to post laws guiding the said river, yet some of u petulant folks are being unnecessarily incorrigible; what is actually wrong with you?

The NBA itself has been ceded no sovereign power over resources or management, and therefore all regulation must be imposed by individual sovereign governments. While not the original focus of the NBA, environmental protection from the threats of desertification, deforestation and pollution of the rivers by agriculture and industry have become a major theme of their work


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niger_Basin_Authority

Misterdhee1:
Yet the average igbo man sees the place as heaven on earth.

NGpatriot:
He's a certified illiterate..

If these illiterates are the future of biafra, then biafra is seriously doomed.

nsiba:
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International waterway!
International maritime law!
Danube this Danube that!
Shey international law will come and dredge without me agreeing abi?
Let him keep shouting upandan here he very well knows if doesn't pay good money to us, landlocked and Airlocked they will see in full effect

superlightning:
Let that bother us, not you. Oluwole graduate.

Agboriotejoye:
You don't get it do you? Look at Niger for example. They rely on Nigeria and Benin republic for access to the sea. Would they not have simply dredged the river up to the delta and escape from dependence on these countries if they have the right to do such?
As for the issue of dam, I hope you know Nigeria till today supplies Niger electricity from kainji dam as part of the agreement for them not to dam their own side of the Niger. What I'm asking is why didn't Nigeria approach NBA to ask Niger not to dam but had to go negotiate with them directly? Simple. Because Niger exercises sovereignty over its own portion of the Niger too.
The same thing applies to right of way.
NBA treaty is without prejudice to sovereignty of each country over its waters. It's boldly written there. The op simply overlooked it.

NGpatriot:
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Who cares what bothers you?

This is a public forum, not www.ipob.com.

ProT:
Ya, you can erect a wall across the River Niger; the SE must not be allowed access to the Atlantic, lest I forget, u also own the Atlantic, afterall, it would be ur own territory of the Atlantic the SE would be entering.
Are u satisfied now?

It still would not deter the SE from demanding for freedom, it is a noble thing to do.

superlightning:
a public forum for Igbo bashing? pls have some sense and face Yoruba related issues.

ProT:
What do u think it would cost to dredge the River from Niger down to the Atlantic?
Can Niger afford such project?
Do they have alternative?
Is the alternative serving them?
You don't embark on projects for the sake of just carrying out a project.

If the SE was independent, and they could strike a GOOD deal with the government of an independent Niger-delta, I don't think the SE would bother much on the alternative use of the Niger river (route to the Atlantic) or that of Obuaku.

As for ur persistent use of the dam scenario, I keep asking u, is there any law(s) that forbids countries from damming it?
I understand the right of way would not be as simple as folks from the SE portray it, but it is also not as difficult as anti-freedom folks try to paint it; diplomacy would be key, but at the end, the SE shall prevail.

Listen, hundreds of years ago, petulant Turks (like most anti-freedom folks on this thread) tried to stop the Europeans from using the silk and spice route to India; what happened next? The Europeans discovered the sea route.
Necessity has always been the mother of invention.

Instead of trying ur best to discourage the SE from an idea as noble as freedom by creating unnecessary hurdles and psychological obstacles, why not channel those energy into fixing Nigeria; or is Nigeria inhabitable for humans 60yrs after independence?

Is it not a shame that the only folks conscious enough to understand the stagnancy and backwardness of Nigeria are the people others are throwing spanners to their wheel, instead of waking up and asking for a better society, whether as a united Nigeria (which seems impossible) or as independent micro-states.

NGpatriot:
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I don't have time for crying ipobs, go away abeg.

oyatz:
I am correcting the wrong information which the analogy of ships passing through Benin Republic to Lagos tried to portray.

I am not against the Southeast using any water bodies they like and indeed nobody will stop them, they will just have to to pay littoral Countries that have direct coastal lines.




However, in my personal view, Nigeria is not going to disintegrate because the political leaders that can make it disintegrate are not interested in disintegration.

Online e-warrior have no say in such political decisions.

LuQuLuQu:
Inhabitant of brown roof republic

Jasparrow1:
But e big sha

NGpatriot:
The NBA law you people keep referring to is not a law, it's a cooperative agreement by the member states to corporate and jointly manage the River Niger, it doesn't impose any law or restriction on the member states because the member states are sovereign states, they make their own decisions per what happens to the water that runs through their countries.

Pay special attention to the red highlight and educate yourself.

The part of the rivers Niger inside our Nigeria belongs to Nigeria, there's nothing international abut it.

ProT:
Ya, online e-warriors (as you called them) would find it difficult to get what they deserve becos a lot of ordinary folks in Nigeria are not intelligent; a lot of folks don't even realise Nigeria is a backward cesspool that seems to serve only the interests of the political elites.

And then, there are some loud, petty-minded, incorrigible folks who don't care about the unworkability of their country; to these folks, the Igbos must be the worst hit, since they wail the loudest about this cesspool, hence, these petty-minded folks can't care less about their situation as long as the Igbos wail.

Gforce2015:
Cain generation ( vagabond and fugitive )

oyatz:
People from all parts of Nigeria wail about their conditions in different ways and for different solutions.


ALL Nigerians are parts of the problems of this country.

The most important thing is to make Nigeria work for himself/herself.