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ghiloman28:
So no prayer for the dead ?

I never said "no prayer for the dead Muslims". Reciting Qul Huwa 3 times is not founded in any books of Islam.

"Our Lord! Forgive us and our brethren who have preceded us in Faith, and put not in our hearts any hatred against those who have believed. Our Lord! You are indeed full of kindness, Most Merciful." [Al-Hashr: 10]

We are saying pray for them in the right way.

https://www.nairaland.com/4372370/deeds-meet-dead-muslims

Ibfpleasant:
seek more knowledge and stop condemnation. I actually know where you belong to.

Of cos we learn till death. And Allah knows where i and you truly belong. And He would judge between us on the Last day.

Rashduct4luv:
I am not the one to proof it.

We require proof from you.
Where can we find it to recite Qul Huwa for the dead in the Qur'an or Sunnah?
If we can't find it then we should stop it.

"Our Lord! Forgive us and our brethren who have preceded us in Faith, and put not in our hearts any hatred against those who have believed. Our Lord! You are indeed full of kindness, Most Merciful." [Al-Hashr: 10]

Mtchew

Jazaka lahu ahiran

iamoyindamola:
Mtchew

Let that go back to whoever is as old as me at your domicile. If you can't proof your case with the Islamic books then stop talking about Islam.

Rashduct4luv:
Let that go back to whoever is as old as me at your domicile. If you can't proof your case with the Islamic books then stop talking about Islam.

k
Arugbo ojo epele

aminusodiq:
Walahi... No b say I no dey like read Islamic tread ooo... But to ask one question and d reply will be acomplined by alot of epistles Hw will I need a yes or no with few Legit explanation and all I see will be long talks its tiring

same here bro,same here. the thing dey taya me

iamoyindamola:
k
Arugbo ojo epele

May Allah grant you a change of attitude!

Rashduct4luv:
May Allah grant you a change of attitude!

And you too arugbo ojo

Ebenezer2O2O:
sorry forgiveness is only found in The Lord Jesus Christ and His finished works at the Cross.
Don't allow religion deceive you.

who is jesus,just one reasonable answer:God or son of mary.

Ebenezer2O2O:
sorry forgiveness is only found in The Lord Jesus Christ and His finished works at the Cross.
Don't allow religion deceive you.

I hope it's not the white Jesus you are talking about.

Holy prophet Mohammed (S*A"W) one day told his sahaaba companion's that he wanted to recite one third of the Quran for them .The companions look at each other saying it was not possible for Rosuululah (S"A*W) to recite it within a short period of time,

He Roosulullah ( S,A,W) only recited soorah ikhlass for them and left them ,then he came out and his companion's that reciting soorah ikhlass is encompassing , reading it connotes reading 1/3 of the entire Quran.

Rashduct4luv:
As for those of us who still recite three "Qul huwallahu Ahad" for the dead, Kindly stop this as it is unfounded in Islam.

"O Allah forgive the dead."
"O Allah show mercy to so and so."

We ask Allah to forgive the dead and show them mercy in the grave and beyond.

So we should neglect our dead ones? Nobody will pray for you too when you're in that position.

Even from Huruf (Arabic Alphabet) its stated that for ayat and Huruf read through there is reward. So comparing the numbers of ayah and alphabet in Surah Ikhlass and one-third of Quran is too less to one third of the Quran. May Allah rewards and let not hang our Quran now that Ramadan is Gone. Jazaqumullahu khairan brother.

Lukgaf:
With regard to the meaning of the hadeeth:

There is a difference between jaza’ (reward) and ijza’ (what is sufficient).

Jaza’ means the reward which Allaah gives for obeying Him.

Ijza’ means what is sufficient and takes the place of something else.

Reciting Qul Huwa Allaahu Ahad brings a reward equivalent to reciting one-third of the Qur’aan, but it does not take the place of reading one-third of the Qur’aan.

If a person vows – for example – to read one-third of the Qur’aan, it is not sufficient for him to read Qul Huwa Allaahu Ahad, because it is equivalent to one-third of the Qur’aan in reward, but not in terms of being sufficient or taking the place of reading one-third of the Qur’aan.

The same may be said of reciting it three times. If a person recites it three times in his prayer, that does not mean that he does not have to recite al-Faatihah, even though he will be given the reward of reciting the whole Qur’aan.

A similar example is the reward given by the Lawgiver to one who offers a single prayer in the Sanctuary of Makkah, and that he will have the reward of one hundred thousand prayers. Does anyone take this divine bounty to means that he does not have to pray for decades because he offered a single prayer in the Haram that is equivalent to one hundred thousand prayers?

Rather this has to do with reward; as for what is sufficient, that is another matter altogether.

Moreover, none of the scholars has ever said that there is no need for us to read the Qur’aan or that Qul Huwa Allaah Ahad is sufficient and takes the place of that. The correct scholarly view is that this soorah has this great virtue because the Qur’aan deals with three topics: one-third for rulings, one-third for promises and warnings, and one-third for the Divine names and attributes.

This soorah combines names and attributes.

This is the view of Abu’l-‘Abbaas ibn Surayj, and Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah stated that it was good in Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 17/103.

The Muslim cannot do without the two other issues, which are the rulings and the promises and warnings. His knowledge cannot be complete unless he looks at the Book of Allaah as a whole. The one who stops at Soorat al-Ikhlaas cannot know the other two matters.

Shaykh al-Islam (Ibn Taymiyah – may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

Rewards are of different types, just as wealth is of different types, such as food, drink, clothing, houses, money and so on. If a man possesses one type of wealth, to the value of one thousand dinars, that does not mean that he can do without the other types. Rather if he has wealth in the form of food, he also needs clothing and a place to live, etc. Similarly if it is a type other than money, he still needs other things. If he has nothing but money, he will need all kinds of wealth that are usually needed. In al-Faatihah there are the benefits of praise and du’aa’ which people need, and Qul Huwa Allaahu Ahad cannot replace it in that sense. Although its reward is very great, he cannot benefit from it unless he also recites the Opening of the Book (al-Faatihah) in his prayer. Hence if a person recites only Qul Huwa Allaahu Ahad in his prayer, without al-Faatihah, his prayer is not valid. Even if he recited the whole of the Qur’aan without al-Faatihah, his prayer would not be valid, because the al-Faatihah refers to the basic needs that people cannot do without.

Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 17/131.

And he said:

The people need the commands, prohibitions and stories that are in the Qur’aan, even though Tawheed is greater than that. Man needs to know what he is enjoined to do and what he is forbidden to do; he need to know what is enjoined upon him and the stories and promises and rewards. These cannot be replaced by anything else, and Tawheed cannot be replaced by these. The stories cannot take the place of the commands and prohibitions, and the commands and prohibitions cannot take the place of the stories. Rather everything that was sent down by Allaah is beneficial and people need it.

If a person recites Qul Huwa Allaahu Ahad, he earns a reward equivalent to the reward of one-third of the Qur’aan, but that does not mean that the reward is of the same kind as that earned by reading the rest of the Qur’aan. Rather he may need the kind of reward that comes from reading the commands and prohibitions and stories, so Qul Huwa Allaahu Ahad cannot take the place of all that.

And he said:

The knowledge that is to be gained by reading the rest of the Qur’aan cannot be gained by reciting this soorah only. So whoever reads the whole Qur’aan is better than one who simply recites this soorah three times in the sense that he earns different kinds of reward, even though the one who recites Qul Huwa Allaahu Ahad earns a reward equivalent to that reward, but it is of one type and does not include all the types that a person needs. This is like a man who has three thousand dinars and another who has food, clothing, accommodation and money equivalent to three thousand dinars. The latter has that which will benefit him in all his affairs, whereas the former needs what the latter has, even though what he has is equivalent in value. Similarly, if he has the finest food, equivalent to three thousand dinars in value, he still needs clothing and accommodation, and weapons and tools that will ward off harm from him, and the like, which cannot be done with food alone.

Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 17/137-139

And Allaah knows best.

Source: https://islamqa.info/en/answers/10022/the-meaning-of-the-hadeeth-qul-huwa-allaahu-ahad-is-equivalent-to-one-third-of-the-quraan

yungchop:
So we should neglect our dead ones? Nobody will pray for you too when you're in that position.

Who said we should neglect our dead ones? Try to comprehend a simple message before you proffer judgment.

Rashduct4luv:
Who said we should neglect our dead ones? Try to comprehend a simple message before you proffer judgment.

so please tell me how else do you pray for them?

yungchop:
so please tell me how else do you pray for them?

I never said "no prayer for the dead Muslims". Reciting Qul Huwa 3 times is not founded in any books of Islam.

"Our Lord! Forgive us and our brethren who have preceded us in Faith, and put not in our hearts any hatred against those who have believed. Our Lord! You are indeed full of kindness, Most Merciful." [Al-Hashr: 10]

We are saying pray for them in the right way.

https://www.nairaland.com/4372370/deeds-meet-dead-muslims

Rashduct4luv:
I never said "no prayer for the dead Muslims". Reciting Qul Huwa 3 times is not founded in any books of Islam.

"Our Lord! Forgive us and our brethren who have preceded us in Faith, and put not in our hearts any hatred against those who have believed. Our Lord! You are indeed full of kindness, Most Merciful." [Al-Hashr: 10]

We are saying pray for them in the right way.

https://www.nairaland.com/4372370/deeds-meet-dead-muslims

Thank you sir.

Rashduct4luv:
I never said "no prayer for the dead Muslims". Reciting Qul Huwa 3 times is not founded in any books of Islam.

"Our Lord! Forgive us and our brethren who have preceded us in Faith, and put not in our hearts any hatred against those who have believed. Our Lord! You are indeed full of kindness, Most Merciful." [Al-Hashr: 10]

We are saying pray for them in the right way.

https://www.nairaland.com/4372370/deeds-meet-dead-muslims

When God say u can take any Ayat in the Quran to pray. And u are waiting for prophet to tell u to recite Quran Huwaluhu b4 u do so.
If u can recite it what is d problem about people that recite it. Or is it a sin let us know oooo

Jeetkool:
When God say u can take any Ayat in the Quran to pray. And u are waiting for prophet to tell u to recite Quran Huwaluhu b4 u do so.
If u can recite it what is d problem about people that recite it. Or is it a sin let us know oooo

Kindly state your evidences. Where God said that and how it was practiced by the Prophet (salallahu 'alayhi wasalam).