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Does God Exist? by Nitah1: 3:51pm On Jun 06, 2020
Before i ask some teething questions here that have existed in my head for sometime now,i want you all to know that i am a born again child of God....i did my BCC,LCC,and LDC respectively.




For God so loved the world that He sent his only son to die for us ( paraphrase).

If God loved us as enshrined in john 3:16,why allow terrible things to keep happening to his love ones?


Bokoharam killed thousands and displaced many Christians in the North East,arm robbers are killing on daily basis.
Bandits are on the rampage,rapists are rapping and killing innocent women,eg Uwa and co.....



Isis invaded iraq in a broad daylight and massacre thousand and almost wipes out Yazidi Christian minorities in that country,....

Rituals kill and butcher human like animals in the name of quick money...




God,where are you?

Or are we deceiving our selves that you exist?



Can a father stand and watch his children maltreated without action?



China produces virus that almost wipes half of the world population.....where is our protectors.?

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Re: Does God Exist? by SILVERLINES: 3:55pm On Jun 06, 2020
Interesting

Sometimes I often ponder on the issue of God existence, but deep and truly to my soul I can't find an answer.
Re: Does God Exist? by Masterkernel1: 3:56pm On Jun 06, 2020
Why do your kids fell ill? Why aren't you given all the desires of your household? It's natural in life that as a father, you allow your kids grow by allowing them to face reality.
Re: Does God Exist? by Akhigbeblog(m): 4:01pm On Jun 06, 2020
Even his son was killed

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Re: Does God Exist? by illicit(m): 4:03pm On Jun 06, 2020
Supernatural powers exist

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Re: Does God Exist? by Nitah1: 4:07pm On Jun 06, 2020
Masterkernel1:
Why do your kids fell ill? Why aren't you given all the desires of your household? It's natural in life that as a father, you allow your kids grow by allowing them to face reality.
Yes,we can't do all that cos we are human..
But we are made to understand that God knows all things,he can everything,He is omnipotent,He's the beginning and the end....

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Re: Does God Exist? by ThatFairGuy: 4:07pm On Jun 06, 2020
How did Avicenna{Ibn Sina} ‘prove’ God exists?

“The full argument is a bit complicated, but here is a somewhat simplified version. Avicenna’s proof actually has nothing to do with design, he doesn’t need the idea that the universe is intelligently put together. Instead, he argues from the idea that the things we see around us are ‘contingent’ or merely ‘possible’.

“The idea here is that a contingent thing is something that may either exist or not exist; its nature does not guarantee that it exists. What Avicenna wants to do is show you that although all the things we experience directly are indeed contingent, there is also something else that exists necessarily, in other words, whose very nature guarantees that it exists
“To do this, Avicenna points out that since a contingent thing on its own merit could either exist or not exist, it must have some external cause that made it exist - like ‘tipping the scales’ in favor of its existence rather than its non-existence.“So take me, for instance. I am contingent, meaning that I am the sort of thing that could easily have failed to exist. In fact, at one time I didn’t yet exist, and in the future I will cease existing, that proves I’m not necessary.

“So there must have been a cause, maybe my parents, who brought me into existence. Now Avicenna observes that the aggregate whole of all contingent things – in other words the physical universe – is also contingent. After all, everything in the universe is contingent, so taken all together as one thing, it too must be contingent. Thus it also needs an external cause, just like I do.

“Since that external cause has to be outside the whole aggregate of contingent things, it cannot itself be contingent. So it is necessary. Hey presto, we’ve proven that there is a necessary existent which causes all other things! And this, of course, is God.”

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Re: Does God Exist? by donbachi(m): 4:08pm On Jun 06, 2020
Everytime GOD..most of the evil faced by mankind,was all their making...bio-weapon,HIV/AIDS,territorial wars,viruses and poverty...mind you,all the time GOD afflicted his people,it was for a reason.and in due time.it was still GOD that brought it to an end.so,any affliction brought upon by mankind.should be removed by mankind..just like every virus get em anti-virus.
Re: Does God Exist? by Roycemadeit(m): 4:09pm On Jun 06, 2020
There's no evil or good. Your perspective is the reason why you would have this kind of question.

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Re: Does God Exist? by Roycemadeit(m): 4:10pm On Jun 06, 2020
And when you say God, make it clear which one, is it Jehovah or Allah? Because any religious God is made by man.

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Re: Does God Exist? by Nitah1: 4:11pm On Jun 06, 2020
ThatFairGuy:
How did Avicenna{Ibn Sina} ‘prove’ God exists?

“The full argument is a bit complicated, but here is a somewhat simplified version. Avicenna’s proof actually has nothing to do with design, he doesn’t need the idea that the universe is intelligently put together. Instead, he argues from the idea that the things we see around us are ‘contingent’ or merely ‘possible’.

“The idea here is that a contingent thing is something that may either exist or not exist; its nature does not guarantee that it exists. What Avicenna wants to do is show you that although all the things we experience directly are indeed contingent, there is also something else that exists necessarily, in other words, whose very nature guarantees that it exists
“To do this, Avicenna points out that since a contingent thing on its own merit could either exist or not exist, it must have some external cause that made it exist - like ‘tipping the scales’ in favor of its existence rather than its non-existence.“So take me, for instance. I am contingent, meaning that I am the sort of thing that could easily have failed to exist. In fact, at one time I didn’t yet exist, and in the future I will cease existing, that proves I’m not necessary.

“So there must have been a cause, maybe my parents, who brought me into existence. Now Avicenna observes that the aggregate whole of all contingent things – in other words the physical universe – is also contingent. After all, everything in the universe is contingent, so taken all together as one thing, it too must be contingent. Thus it also needs an external cause, just like I do.

“Since that external cause has to be outside the whole aggregate of contingent things, it cannot itself be contingent. So it is necessary. Hey presto, we’ve proven that there is a necessary existent which causes all other things! And this, of course, is God.”

Why did HE allow bad things to happen to HIS people that have created in HIS image?
Re: Does God Exist? by Nitah1: 4:14pm On Jun 06, 2020
donbachi:
Everytime GOD..most of the evil faced by mankind,was all their making...bio-weapon,HIV/AIDS,territorial wars,viruses and poverty...mind you,all the time GOD afflicted his people,it was for a reason.and in due time.it was still GOD that brought it to an end.so,any affliction brought upon by mankind.should be removed by mankind..just like every virus get em anti-virus.
Why did HE stop the Tower of barbel and scattered the builders and also splits in different languages?

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Re: Does God Exist? by Masterkernel1: 4:15pm On Jun 06, 2020
Nitah1:
Yes,we can't do all that cos we are human..
But we are made to understand that God knows all things,he can everything,He is omnipotent,He's the beginning and the end....



As a Christian, God has not promised me that me that once I come to him, I will be immuned against all misfortune of life, but that he will help me in my troubles..
Re: Does God Exist? by Nitah1: 4:20pm On Jun 06, 2020
Masterkernel1:


As a Christian, God has not promised me that me that once I come to him, I will be immuned against all misfortune of life, but that he will help me in my troubles..


My brother,go back to your bible and read it again....read all God's promises to man in the book of exodus 19 & 20 and also chapter 23.

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Re: Does God Exist? by donbachi(m): 4:22pm On Jun 06, 2020
Nitah1:
Why did HE stop the Tower of barbel and scattered the builders and also splits in different languages?
because they sought to make a name for themselves and establish honor for themselves...do also know,dat GOD is a jealous GOD.
Re: Does God Exist? by Masterkernel1: 4:27pm On Jun 06, 2020
Nitah1:
My brother,go back to your bible and read it again....read all God's promises to man in the book of exodus 19 & 20 and also chapter 23.


I just read them. It was talking about the Children of Israel and God. What about that scripture?
Re: Does God Exist? by Nitah1: 4:29pm On Jun 06, 2020
Masterkernel1:



I just read them. It was talking about the Children of Israel and God. What about that scripture?
And there was no promised?
Re: Does God Exist? by Nitah1: 4:30pm On Jun 06, 2020
donbachi:
because they sought to make a name for themselves and establish honor for themselves...do also know,dat GOD is a jealous GOD.
I expect Him to be intervening in our affairs just as he did in this case.





Haba,look around na.
Re: Does God Exist? by Masterkernel1: 4:33pm On Jun 06, 2020
Nitah1:
And there was no promised?

These promises lived with the, and if there's any that didn't go with them, kindly outline them, thanks.
Re: Does God Exist? by donbachi(m): 4:44pm On Jun 06, 2020
Nitah1:
I expect Him to be intervening in our affairs just as he did in this case.





Haba,look around na.
he is the same GOD yesterday,today and forever..general commanding officer of the universe..the creator no one created...the unchangeable changer..mountain melter..ocean divider..rose of sharon..the bright morning star..he intervened,but did not brag about it..he scattered their original lan.just hold unto him..shalom!
Re: Does God Exist? by Nobody: 5:39pm On Jun 06, 2020
I was praying sometime ago when this thought came to my mind.

"Our parents loves us so much, yet they beat and insults us. Knowing that these actions can inflict pains emotionally, physically and otherwise, yet it doesn't stop them from doing such.

Has their LOVE for us stop them from beating us?

Whatever is happening in the world today is simply man's orchestration, in collaboration with the principalities that rule the dark work.

What would happen if all men decide to only collaborate with God by obeying His precepts without giving room to the other power to subdue them?

Things will be much better, not without some difficulties though because ever since the fall of man, alot happened and everything will go back to it normal state in the second coming....

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Re: Does God Exist? by Roycemadeit(m): 6:12pm On Jun 06, 2020
As long as you believe that the creator of the universe is a religious being, my dear, you are just gonna remain confused because he is like a child, incapable of anything. And, of course, he is an imagination filled with confusion and empowered by men, who tell fictional stories.

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Re: Does God Exist? by Heathen777(m): 6:32pm On Jun 06, 2020
Nitah1:
Before i ask some teething questions here that have existed in my head for sometime now,i want you all to know that i am a born again child of God....i did my BCC,LCC,and LDC respectively.




For God so loved the world that He sent his only son to die for us ( paraphrase).

If God loved us as enshrined in john 3:16,why allow terrible things to keep happening to his love ones?


Bokoharam killed thousands and displaced many Christians in the North East,arm robbers are killing on daily basis.
Bandits are on the rampage,rapists are rapping and killing innocent women,eg Uwa and co.....



Isis invaded iraq in a broad daylight and massacre thousand and almost wipes out Yazidi Christian minorities in that country,....

Rituals kill and butcher human like animals in the name of quick money...




God,where are you?

Or are we deceiving our selves that you exist?



Can a father stand and watch his children maltreated without action?



China produces virus that almost wipes half of the world population.....where is our protectors.?

Short Answer: No

Long Answer: We evolved brain capables of thinking of such concepts. Otherwise we would be going about our ususal wild setting lives, eating, shitting, sex, sleep , and death, without such concepts ever coming across our minds, which was mostly how all life on earth was till one group of apes decided to become smartasses.

Now that we can think of such a concept as god, it doesn't necessarily makes it a plausible or real thing. (We've made up millions of mythological ideas and concept in ancient time past). It's only with science have we been recently able to validate fact from fiction. And so far science has leaned on the matter of gods, demons, afterlife, as simply jst fantasies.

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Re: Does God Exist? by Dantedasz(m): 7:22pm On Jun 06, 2020
Nitah1:
Before i ask some teething questions here that have existed in my head for sometime now,i want you all to know that i am a born again child of God....i did my BCC,LCC,and LDC respectively.




For God so loved the world that He sent his only son to die for us ( paraphrase).

If God loved us as enshrined in john 3:16,why allow terrible things to keep happening to his love ones?


Bokoharam killed thousands and displaced many Christians in the North East,arm robbers are killing on daily basis.
Bandits are on the rampage,rapists are rapping and killing innocent women,eg Uwa and co.....



Isis invaded iraq in a broad daylight and massacre thousand and almost wipes out Yazidi Christian minorities in that country,....

Rituals kill and butcher human like animals in the name of quick money...




God,where are you?

Or are we deceiving our selves that you exist?



Can a father stand and watch his children maltreated without action?



China produces virus that almost wipes half of the world population.....where is our protectors.?



The Christian's on this your thread are amusing. I bet they will end up confusing you more because they have no answers to your simple question-Where is god in all the chaos?
Just keep on asking questions. Don't be afraid to ask any question about religion or god and gradually you will get there.
Read the bible and use your brain to ask questions....overcoming your fear of asking questions is the key to your freedom from indoctrination and I tell you the indoctrination is deep!

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Re: Does God Exist? by Nitah1: 8:52pm On Jun 06, 2020
Dantedasz:




The Christian's on this your thread are amusing. I bet they will end up confusing you more because they have no answers to your simple question-Where is god in all the chaos?
Just keep on asking questions. Don't be afraid to ask any question about religion or god and gradually you will get there.
Read the bible and use your brain to ask questions....overcoming your fear of asking questions is the key to your freedom from indoctrination and I tell you the indoctrination is deep!
thank you sir.
Re: Does God Exist? by Nitah1: 9:01pm On Jun 06, 2020
Efe94:
I was praying sometime ago when this thought came to my mind.

"Our parents loves us so much, yet they beat and insults us. Knowing that these actions can inflict pains emotionally, physically and otherwise, yet it doesn't stop them from doing such.

Has their LOVE for us stop them from beating us?

Whatever is happening in the world today is simply man's orchestration, in collaboration with the principalities that rule the dark work.

What would happen if all men decide to only collaborate with God by obeying His precepts without giving room to the other power to subdue them?

Things will be much better, not without some difficulties though because ever since the fall of man, alot happened and everything will go back to it normal state in the second coming....
meanwhile we should continue suffering.....we cannot equate our father with the one that create everything,knows everything, control everything and also promised us everything.

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Re: Does God Exist? by orunto27: 9:32pm On Jun 06, 2020
YES
Re: Does God Exist? by Kobojunkie: 9:38pm On Jun 06, 2020
Nitah1:
Before i ask some teething questions here that have existed in my head for sometime now,i want you all to know that i am a born again child of God....i did my BCC,LCC,and LDC respectively.
What in the world are those? undecided
Re: Does God Exist? by Kobojunkie: 9:40pm On Jun 06, 2020
Nitah1:
For God so loved the world that He sent his only son to die for us ( paraphrase).
If God loved us as enshrined in john 3:16,why allow terrible things to keep happening to his love ones?

Are you implying that He ought to favor those who claim to love Him over those who don't ?
Nitah1:

Bokoharam killed thousands and displaced many Christians in the North East,arm robbers are killing on daily basis.
Bandits are on the rampage,rapists are rapping and killing innocent women,eg Uwa and co.....
Isis invaded iraq in a broad daylight and massacre thousand and almost wipes out Yazidi Christian minorities in that country,....
Rituals kill and butcher human like animals in the name of quick money...
God,where are you? Or are we deceiving our selves that you exist?
Can a father stand and watch his children maltreated without action?
China produces virus that almost wipes half of the world population.....where is our protectors.?
What does the statement "God is Love" mean to you?
Re: Does God Exist? by kingxsamz(m): 9:44pm On Jun 06, 2020
Nitah1:
thank you sir.

Trust me bro.
There is no god anywhere.
If he's so good and loving as they claim, children won't die out of hunger, poverty, maltreatment or violence. Think about it.
They'll tell you that he has a greater plan. But these are the same people that will tell you that God created all humans.
So what was the purpose of creating those children that died?
And the funny thing is that when those children were born, their parents did dedication and invited neighbors and pastors, and they all prophesied that the child would live long and would grow up to be prosperous. So what changed? undecided
Who's deceiving who?
Live your life and do good to your neighbor. That's all that matters.
Remember the girl who was raped in a church?
With your clear mind and conscience, if you had the power to stop it, would you stop it?
So tell me what kind of god allows such to happen?
Embrace reality and leave fiction for the ignorant.

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Re: Does God Exist? by CAPSLOCKED: 9:52pm On Jun 06, 2020
illicit:
Supernatural powers exist


YET THE WORLD HIGHLY DEPENDS ON PHYSICAL, OBSERVABLE, REPEATABLE, EXPERIMENTAL POWER.

NO COUNTRY EVER THINKS OF WINNING A WAR WITH MAGIC. AS JUJU FILLED AS AFRICA IS, WE HAVE NEVER WON THE WORLD CUP. WE CAN'T EVEN TOUCH THE MOON.. YET WE CLAIM JUJU AND JAZZ. ORDINARY MALARIA SEF IS KILLING US ALL WE HAVE TO DEPEND ON FREE BILL GATE DRUGS. ABEG. SUPERNATURAL IS BS.

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Re: Does God Exist? by CAPSLOCKED: 9:56pm On Jun 06, 2020
Efe94:
I was praying sometime ago when this thought came to my mind.

"Our parents loves us so much, yet they beat and insults us. Knowing that these actions can inflict pains emotionally, physically and otherwise, yet it doesn't stop them from doing such.

Has their LOVE for us stop them from beating us?

Whatever is happening in the world today is simply man's orchestration, in collaboration with the principalities that rule the dark work.

What would happen if all men decide to only collaborate with God by obeying His precepts without giving room to the other power to subdue them?

Things will be much better, not without some difficulties though because ever since the fall of man, alot happened and everything will go back to it normal state in the second coming....


IF WE STOPPED SINNING TODAY AND START LIVING LIKE ANGELS, WE'RE ALL STILL GOING TO DIE TERRIBLY. NOT FROM ACCIDENTS, BUT FROM NATURALLY OCCURRING DISEASES AND NATURAL DISASTERS. OUR HOLINESS WON'T TAKE AWAY A TIGER'S HUNGER FOR FLESH OR MAKE ALL SNAKES NON-VENOMOUS.

THE EARTH WASN'T DESIGNED FOR US, AND WE'RE JUST HERE BY MISTAKE. THERE'S NO REASON TO BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE SPECIAL AND YOUR GOD PUT YOU HERE FOR A PURPOSE. THAT'S A FALLACY.

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