hmmmmm to think I paid somebody 500k in ibeju lekki for the samething!!! and it was through my cousin, smh Nigerians!!!!

raymondFirstborn:


250k is on the highside.We did One for a client at Amity estate, which is just 8minutes drive from sangotedo and it cost less.

Muyi002:

Boss, many thanks for this information.
Here in Ilorin, when I did some findings about the cost the below was given He said 2x6 @ 750 2x4 @ 480 2x3 @ 350 2x2 @ 300

Type of wood?

Chekitaut:
Type of wood?

Ayin is what it is called

Muyi002:


No vex say i fall your hand. But you know that the one who seeks the road usually doesnt get lost.

He is the carpenter that has been handling the work from the beginning and at a point when i wanted to do the Parapet, his bill for woods and workmanship was almost 380k and i had to change to another whose cost was 200k.

I actually wanted to compensate him with this job and that was why i called him. the other guy had charged 120k for the wood work and roof with almost same quotations of materials but i was thinking he will charge less but he wan mess up.

Ok I get the reason why now

rotecch77:



OGA muyi002, you are old member here nna,
But you fall my hand o, when you have member here that can handle this for you at reasonable price.
Me as builder( contractor) with 300-350k I will get this done, no crime in this if I advertised my work to you and to others member( Almighty coca-cola, Pepsi etc still do advert) No money or work is too small o

Seriously some mason do charge more than some professionals this days , this for plastering of 4bedrooms flats ? it just too much no matter the location and the size of the 4bedroom ( I knew it’s not 4bedroom king palace design).

The roof charges is much also something in region of 120-180 is enough for all

This is what we are talking about!
Rotech is NOT talking about "Fixex Charges" here but he is ready to negotiate a reasonable fee with the Nairalander.
by the time he does two three houses in one month, that Carpenter that is charging #480K "fixed charge" will still be there sucking air into his mouth.
@Muyi002, over to you. Please negotiate with Rotech77 and the good thing is that as a member here, we are also interested in ensuring that he does a good job for you though generally, he has always delivered good jobs.

@Rotech77, make us proud and make we see pictures after o.

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raymondFirstborn:


It's legal for a consultant offering services to have a fixed price or fee. There's nothing illegal about price fixing for professional services.

Apart from demand and supply, the government can set prices for product and services.Just the way the government set prices for petroleum products.

My stance on uniform prices stands, if you have issues with the prices, take it up with SURCON.
You need to put aside all those economic principles put forward by Adam Smith and Alfred marshall.
In reality you can defy the laws of demand and supply. Any organization that allows the laws of demand and supply to control prices of it's product, would remain a slave to the market.

Do you think most of these multi national (Pepsi, coke etc)companies allow the laws of Demand and supply to control their business.


A registered surveyor that goes against the Regulatory body(SURCON) can loose his license to practice.
One last thing a Survey job is not "governed" by contract law."Most" professionals offering their services do not enter into any contract with their client, rather there is an agreement between the two parties.

As we all know , if there is no willingness to enter into a legal binding agreement , THERE IS NO CONTRACT.

I am a chatered arbitrator by the way . Stay blessed.

You are certainly an educated illiterate, if you can say the bolded.
I am certain you cant differentiate between 'Agreement and Contract', if any
Let me just leave you, keep waiting for Fixed Price job, no wonder you claim to be Surveyor, Architect, Builder, geo-Soil Tester, now Lawyer Arbitrator!
Greedy Hustler like you.

money121:


Let imranroofing handle the covering
Patronize me pls

Something tells me you are also a Roofer to watch, though recent, l am getting impressed with your work.
Keep it up and keep it Honest all the way, with time, you will prove your worth

One4me:


You are certainly an educated illiterate, if you can say the bolded.
I am certain you cant differentiate between 'Agreement and Contract', if any
Let me just leave you, keep waiting for Fixed Price job, no wonder you claim to be Surveyor, Architect, Builder, geo-Soil Tester, now Lawyer Arbitrator!
Greedy Hustler like you.

I would give you a 24hrs lecture on contract law if you care to listen.

I have an HND in Quantity Surveying , OND Civil Engineering , PgD Construction management & MSC (in view).If you are not aware, quantity surveyors can act as arbitrators .Have you ever heard of JCT?
At the moment, I lead a 6man team of building professionals.(architects and builders inclusive)
Our head office is at adekunle awobiyi close, Ogba, Lagos. With our branch office at ikorodu.

Not everyone on this platform is a greedy hustler.
If you had paid more attention, you would have noticed I said "we" not "I".

Please you guys should let this go. You have both proved your point. The additional back and forth is really not necessary. I visit this page every day and I have learnt so much from it. I hardly comment too but I just had to do this. Please don't let it go further than this.

raymondFirstborn:


I would give you a 24hrs lecture on contract law if you care to listen.

I have an HND in Quantity Surveying , OND Civil Engineering , PgD Construction management & MSC (in view).If you are not aware, quantity surveyors can act as arbitrators .Have you ever heard of JCT?
At the moment, I lead a 6man team of building professionals.(architects and builders inclusive)
Our head office is at adekunle awobiyi close, Ogba, Lagos. With our branch office at ikorodu.

Not everyone on this platform is a greedy hustler.
If you had paid more attention, you would have noticed I said "we" not "I".

If you like, gather the whole town together, you are coming across as a Professional Fraudster and Conman!
BTW, that your Ogba office address has no number?
Include the number, l want to bring you a #400K survey for half plot of land at Ikorodu.
I am sure you used the OND Civil to gain entrance for HND Surveying, right? Which School is that sef.

Any other 'documents' will be welcomed

PS: Okay, l just saw the plea of someone now, so l will let you go but you are under observation.

montee2:
Please has anyone done soil test for a building project in Ibeju-Lekki area? Someone is asking me 250k for a soil test. I find that outrageously high. Please help a bro.

I did mine at Eti Osa on Walton Gate, Landwey Properties for about 220K. That was 2018. It's not outrageously high if he charges 250K in 2020 which I believe you may want to negotiate. Every professional has their own standard. That you get something very cheap doesn't make it a standard scale for works carried out .

I think we should learn to use words appropriately not to make a professional service look like been outrageous.

I may not wish to join words with people arguing here about professional fees and all that sorts. However, if one is sat down. The person would be schooled appropriately.

Nairaland thread is meant to proffer advice and guide, not a place to call out those who carry out their works professionally as outrageous because someone else decides to do for far less.

Services works are subject to some factors not explained here in details.

Thanks

One4me:


If you like, gather the whole town together, you are coming across as a Professional Fraudster and Conman!
BTW, that your Ogba office address has no number?
Include the number, l want to bring you a #400K survey for half plot of land at Ikorodu.
I am sure you used the OND Civil to gain entrance for HND Surveying, right? Which School is that sef.

Any other 'documents' will be welcomed

PS: Okay, l just saw the plea of someone now, so l will let you go but you are under observation.

You can kindly forward his contact address to me so I can contact him ONLY if there is a 400k job per plot to offer. His HND makes him a professional. I'm impressed. So far there is life, there is hope.

raymondFirstborn:


250k is on the highside.We did One for a client at Amity estate, which is just 8minutes drive from sangotedo and it cost less.

Don't quote is high. Be more constructive in your analysis. I saw your posts about surveyors. The soil test in my opinion is neither too high or too low. Once something doesn't suite a client, they jump in here to lash people.

When it only favors them, they don't come here.
Experiences with different clients here is not something one would always want to come here and share always coz it's not necessary.

If am I put this to you. Just in survey and construction.

"Are any two lands same" either by virtue of location, size or topography. The client that raise the first question here didn't specify the factors here. So don't jump into conclusion to quick.

You may choose to disagree with me but that's OK. That's why we are all here. We all have different opinions to things and rightly so that's how it should be. But then, we should endeavor to strike a balance always.

Thanks bro. We would finish up on Whatsapp as we normally do.

Jeff68:
hmmmmm to think I paid somebody 500k in ibeju lekki for the samething!!! and it was through my cousin, smh Nigerians!!!!

Now you see why I tell this guys that come to call our people here. Different strokes for different folks.

Well, it's good you added to this discussion with your experience so that the first member that raised a question here understand better what's involved.

Thank you

@one4me

Calling someone a "fraudster" and "con man" on a faceless forum is a dent on my public image, which could deter prospective clients from having future dealings with me..
So I would plead with you to take down or edit your previous post.

To your last question I graduated from LASPOTECH.

raymondFirstborn:


I would give you a 24hrs lecture on contract law if you care to listen.

I have an HND in Quantity Surveying , OND Civil Engineering , PgD Construction management & MSC (in view).If you are not aware, quantity surveyors can act as arbitrators .Have you ever heard of JCT?
At the moment, I lead a 6man team of building professionals.(architects and builders inclusive)
Our head office is at adekunle awobiyi close, Ogba, Lagos. With our branch office at ikorodu.

Not everyone on this platform is a greedy hustler.
If you had paid more attention, you would have noticed I said "we" not "I".

Bro, add no further. It's fine. Let's still be watching

raymondFirstborn:
@one4me

Calling someone a "fraudster" and "con man" on a faceless forum is a dent on my public image, which could deter prospective clients from having future dealings with me..
So I would plead with you to take down or edit your previous post.

To your last question I graduated from LASPOTECH.

Bro, if you would hear me. Ignore the name calling OK. I just wished the admins here would do the needful to members using arrogant words on this platform.

rotecch77:



OGA muyi002, you are old member here nna,
But you fall my hand o, when you have member here that can handle this for you at reasonable price.
Me as builder( contractor) with 300-350k I will get this done, no crime in this if I advertised my work to you and to others member( Almighty coca-cola, Pepsi etc still do advert) No money or work is too small o

Seriously some mason do charge more than some professionals this days , this for plastering of 4bedrooms flats ? it just too much no matter the location and the size of the 4bedroom ( I knew it’s not 4bedroom king palace design).

The roof charges is much also something in region of 120-180 is enough for all

DM me back on my Whatsapp bro. Lost your contact there few days ago. Thanks.
@roteech

Dennis3D:


I did mine at Eti Osa on Walton Gate, Landwey Properties for about 220K. That was 2018. It's not outrageously high if he charges 250K in 2020 which I believe you may want to negotiate. Every professional has their own standard. That you get something very cheap doesn't make it a standard scale for works carried out .

I think we should learn to use words appropriately not to make a professional service look like been outrageous.

I may not wish to join words with people arguing here about professional fees and all that sorts. However, if one is sat down. The person would be schooled appropriately.

Nairaland thread is meant to proffer advice and guide, not a place to call out those who carry out their works professionally as outrageous because someone else decides to do for far less.

Services works are subject to some factors not explained here in details.

Thanks

You guys should try out Lagos state Material Testing Lab... They should give you a convenient quote

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Muyi002:
Please how is good to plaster a 4 bedroom flat in and out all ensuite.

My bricklayer is saying 480k. I think this is too much or what do you think.

Am presently plastering 3bedroom duplex and 2units of 2bedroom flat for 600k. Pls price wisely

paparazzi82:


Am presently plastering 3bedroom duplex and 2units of 2bedroom flat for 600k. Pls price wisely

May Almighty God Complete the projects
Just that u didnt allow imranroofing to handle the roofing part..
But pls incase u have anyone in need of roofing materials
Kindly recommend us

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Hmmn! I tap sense in this, God bless you sir. I wish people learn from this

One4me:


We have discussed this issue before.
The fact that a Professional body issued a price guideline, does not mean that is what Customers will pay or you should charge a Customer.
It is like when the Pepper Grinder Association just wakeup one day and raise dthe price of grinding Pepper to #100, no matter how small it is.
Smart Pepper grinders recognise that if you charge too much as your association suggested, you wont get customers and you will still have to pay Association fees but the smart ones will look at your Pepper and say, 'Okay, it is small, l will take #50 for this' and before youknow it, theyhave made a lot of money while the ones still insisting on Association price, are still yawning and waiting for their first customer.

I had a similar issue with my Welder.
He said their 'Association has said anytime they go to weld anything in a Customers compound, they must charge a minimum of #5,000, no matter how small it is. Because he has been working with me for awhile, he came to do the work (just to use fire cut a Padlock that we misplaced the key. One other welder who overheard our discussion when l said l will only pay #2,000, went to report him and their Chairman came to carry his Welding Machine, just infornt of my house, as the guy was about to leave.
Well, l ensured the Chariman and his assistant got locked up and chargedfor stealing. Apart from bailing themselves, they also paid for the fiancial loss' suffered by the Welder. Now that is an extreme case, l just dont like their overbearing attitude and l was determined to remind them that joining a Union is voluntary, by law. They have left him alone since them.
Unionism should not be solely to extort the Client, all fees should be reasonable.

There are Surveyors who are smart and will do a Plot for less than #400K, l know a few and it is genuine (that is the bargaining excuse they greedy ones use, they scare the customer that if it is cheaper than what their Union prescribed, it wont be registered at Alausa! Bullsheeet). I have used them twice in the last two years.
The person requiring a Surveyor can send me a PM and l will give him numbers of Smart Surveyors who will do it for #300K/Plot.
If you ask these #400K Surveyors why it is #400K, their best defense is That is what the Institute Prescribed or that is the standard fee!
Who says it is the Standard fee and what right do they have, to impose such exhorbitant price on Clients?

That your last words catch my attention, "Let those that have money falling from the sky pay standard"...
A client called me last week to quote for an electric fence-wire for 21m perimeter, quoting for that small perimer can be equivalent or almost equivalent to quoting for a plot of land due to the one core material(energizer), I have to explain everything to him and advice him to use barb wire instead of electric fence-wire...I know if I should give him quotation for that 21m without explaining to him, he might not see any atom of fact in it. Fortunately, he understand my explanation and he choose barb wire due to the cost quote author=Godisgreatest1 post=90433801]

Good morning,
You see, the document he posted containing the 'standard fee' is not new to me or to anyone that I know of. We know already. I have currently worked with 2 registered surveyors, in emphasis 'registered'. The payments made were far below the 'standard fee'. Lets just say maybe both of them are not members of the certified union, that I don't know, what matters to me is that they are registered and the documents are legitimate and up to date. It's common in building, i've heard of standard welders fee, that was how I was charged over 6million to construct protectors and stair rails for a 2 stories of 6nos of 2 beds. Or was it the tiler that told me standard fees story and billed me almost 600k as workmanship to tile a 4 bedroom bungalow, this one happened just last month am still recuperating. I manage funds and so I pay what I can afford and get the very best, maybe even better than what the standard fee covers. Let those that have money falling from the sky pay standard. That settles it.
Good luck.[/quote]

Osagiesamuel02:
Good morning house, please how many blocks can a bag of cement set on an average. For 6 inches and 9 inches respectively

Someone should please help me with this

I apologize for the delay in posting some pics. My schedules have become so irregular due to the famous Covid-19. I just go past in hurry without remembering the pics until today. This building is about 48 years old and had this tiles done in the year 2000! Twenty years ago! This is exactly what am talking about.

I have wanted to ask about that your last words but I don't want to insultive.

One4me:


You are certainly an educated illiterate, if you can say the bolded.
I am certain you cant differentiate between 'Agreement and Contract', if any
Let me just leave you, keep waiting for Fixed Price job, no wonder you claim to be Surveyor, Architect, Builder, geo-Soil Tester, now Lawyer Arbitrator!
Greedy Hustler like you.

Ooh! Now I get you, I was wondering why will someone know all this but with your explanation...
I will learn from you then

raymondFirstborn:


I would give you a 24hrs lecture on contract law if you care to listen.

I have an HND in Quantity Surveying , OND Civil Engineering , PgD Construction management & MSC (in view).If you are not aware, quantity surveyors can act as arbitrators .Have you ever heard of JCT?
At the moment, I lead a 6man team of building professionals.(architects and builders inclusive)
Our head office is at adekunle awobiyi close, Ogba, Lagos. With our branch office at ikorodu.

Not everyone on this platform is a greedy hustler.
If you had paid more attention, you would have noticed I said "we" not "I".

Check previous comment I think someone answered this recently, I can't really remember...

Osagiesamuel02:

Someone should please help me with this

I am currently working on a 4 bedroom bungalow already at the dpc level, with filling. I'm thinking of incorporating columns at the corners in case of concrete fascia, I don't know if it can be done. Please help. Thank you.

valencia2012:
I apologize for the delay in posting some pics. My schedules have become so irregular due to the famous Covid-19. I just go past in hurry without remembering the pics until today. This building is about 48 years old and had this tiles done in the year 2000! Twenty years ago! This is exactly what am talking about.

That's a thick smooth brick I think, it usually place on the outside while inside has the normal hollow building blocks.