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Marotzke:
you obviously don't do Government contract business in Nigeria, because if you do, you would have known that Government don't go to market to make purchases, contractors do.
So in addition to the price you quoted add first 30% importers profit from whom the contractor buys the trucks from.
Then 10%witholding tax, 10% or is it 7.5%VAT
Then sundry deductibles takes another 5%.
So in this very contract Government deducts 25%or 22.5%of the contract sum.
So already the actual value of the contract is approaching 1.4 billion Naira.
Take out party contribution and other extra expenses and the contractor is going home with about 350 million on a 1.8billion Naira contract.
If a bank funded the contract executiion, another 100million naira will go .
This is for a good case scenario.
What if Aregbe was changed as minister?
The contract may fail altogether and the contractor heading for his village broke or answering to EFCC over a failed bank loan.

Thank you for this.

onegig:
Not everything is the way it is.

There might be servicing options and parts warranty that come with it.

When we procure Laptops, each costs almost twice what you have on the market because of add ons, extended warranties and a lot of extra package a regular Joe won't buy. Those things can double costs, also consider shipping and Contractor profit.

Why not patronize INNOSON instead?

Mummyfour:
Bros did you comment on this topic on opera mini. I just read this comment verbatim on opera. But to be frank, I did that calculations too and you are right. So what aregbe stole as a two term governor is not enough? Coronavirus selects the wrong candidates indeed

Aregbe did not procure them,the ffs did.he only commissioned them on buhari's behalf

lordlugards:
Only Alaba int'l market alone buy 2 fire truck which is not upto 30millions, and one Buffon as a minister is commissioning 10 for entire Nigeria country.
We are doomed in this country.

oga there is fire truck of $1.1million ROSENBAUER That is the name google it

martineverest:
I'm 2011,when I did my IT at one oil company,their latest fire vehicle was about 200m naira...such vehicles are only seen at oil companies and airports.

m surprised it cheaper now

that true there is fire truck of $1.1m rosenbauer which is over N400M

Tolase1999:
oga there is fire truck of $1.1million ROSENBAUER That is the name google it

so this one now is $1.1million abi?
Me and you know that what we are seeing here is fairly used truck

9PBLIVE:
According to the Minister of Interior, Rauf Aregbeshola, these "ultra modern fire service trucks" cost whooping N1.8 billion.

The truck actual name is TGM 18.280 fire fighter truck, and the price is €195,000 in VAN VLIET.

Even if CBN sold euros to you at € 1 = ₦ 439 ( which I don't think so), then each truck should cost you ₦85,605,000 and ten should cost ₦856,000,000

Say with the shipping and clearing of these trucks you should still spend a maximum of 95 million naira each!

In other words, Rauf have swallowed the remaining 900 million naira

They are bunch of scammers robbing on broad day light

martineverest:
people that don't know much about fire vehicles will complain..but they don't know how cheap this ones are.

average world class fire vehicles are above 150 million

Ogbeni dey well joor.....150M ke? When some planes no reach DT amount

How many houses are burning in their state

Why didn’t he invested in hospitals

Instead of once in a year business

he has embezzled money

180million for each of this truck?
SMH

9PBLIVE:
According to the Minister of Interior, Rauf Aregbeshola, these "ultra modern fire service trucks" cost whooping N1.8 billion.

The truck actual name is TGM 18.280 fire fighter truck, and the price is €195,000 in VAN VLIET.

Even if CBN sold euros to you at € 1 = ₦ 439 ( which I don't think so), then each truck should cost you ₦85,605,000 and ten should cost ₦856,000,000

Say with the shipping and clearing of these trucks you should still spend a maximum of 95 million naira each!

In other words, Rauf have swallowed the remaining 900 million naira

Your maths is off

These are high quality trucks, @180m it's even cheap, was expecting each to cast 450m naira.

9ja I hail thee!

paix:
The value of the naira has dropped, you know.

wrong. These calculations haven't even done justice to the situation. The trucks were not procured/paid for today. They must have been paid for at the very least 3months ago. This was imported. I would say it is most likely even farther than 3months. The exchange rate when this was paid for, is far less than what is obtainable today.

9PBLIVE:
https://mobile.twitter.com/raufaregbesola/status/1270403222964969475

The truck cost 86,000,000 Naira each so it takes another 94,000,000 Naira each for delivery hmmmmm.

What would cost a sane government to probe this ensuring that part of the funds wasn't diverted to their personal pocket.
One thing I know is that the fire service dept in Nigeria needs a whole new management that would see to the proper management of the service and also working towards a vision of safe guarding the environment.

We do need a new sense of identity.

I don't expect something good from this man any day, any year. A politician with extra greed and every evil things "Extra".
#100m+ for this Firefighters truck?
This corn-tree is a shithole true true!

I'm based in Osun and I can attest to all his evil and extra inflated contract he awarded to himself.

The dualization of Gbongan road to Ila-odo in Osun state will never see the light of commissioning in 3 to 4 years to come.
Because the contractor use "crude implement" for construction.

There was a time I was travelling along Ikirun - Dabgolu in the night. I saw the contractors working with torches while they coat the road.

I have picture evidence's in case you want to argue!

Contributory pension is just like a pendulum bulb that keeps dangling and never getting to the deserving pensioners.
Credit to Aregbesola Rauf.

"Igi iye" gulps hundred millions of naira but you can't see mahogany or tick where the project was launched.

The ministry of interior will never remain the same.
In fact there can be downturn of the name " "Interior of ministry"
Eventually there would be no reasonable court of law to hear the case aftermath!



Quote me if you have "facts".

9PBLIVE:


www.nairaland.com/attachments/11705842_eagiziwaaio1vd_jpeg_jpeg18a054f0b9db8075c6ef3808116f6b0c


According to the Minister of Interior, Rauf Aregbeshola, these "ultra modern fire service trucks" cost whooping N1.8 billion.

The truck actual name is TGM 18.280 fire fighter truck, and the price is €195,000 in VAN VLIET.

Even if CBN sold euros to you at € 1 = ₦ 439 ( which I don't think so), then each truck should cost you ₦85,605,000 and ten should cost ₦856,000,000

Say with the shipping and clearing of these trucks you should still spend a maximum of 95 million naira each!

In other words, Rauf have swallowed the remaining 900 million naira

1. Very irresponsible to post picture or irrelevant and old looking fire engine to compare with a new fire engine with the the latest and modern features.

2. If you are going to compare, look for the same latest and modern fire engines with the same features and package as displayed by the OP.

3. Your calculation of course was ignorant since you can not categorically speculate per the actual price, the actual shipping cost, the overall purchase package and contingencies like parts, maintenance, training.

4. You don't know anything and your gist is limited to guessing and whatever old and relic fire engine you based your theory on, on top of the fact you don't know anything about the purchase agreements and after support arrangements they obviously paid for.


It's really sad and pathetic the manner many of you spew ignorant rubbish just to get cheap likes from other ignorant people with meager capacity to think rationally and logically.

NGpatriot:
1. Very irresponsible to post picture or irrelevant and old looking fire engine to compare with a new fire engine with the the latest and modern features.

2. If you are going to compare, look for the same latest and modern fire engines with the same features and package as displayed by the OP.

3. Your calculation of course was ignorant since you can not categorically speculate per the actual price, the actual shipping cost, the overall purchase package and contingencies like parts, maintenance, training.

4. You don't know anything and your gist is limited to guessing and whatever old and relic fire engine you based your theory on, on top of the fact you don't know anything about the purchase agreements and after support arrangements they obviously paid for.


It's really sad and pathetic the manner many of you spew ignorant rubbish just to get cheap likes from other ignorant people with meager capacity to think rationally and logically.

Buhari patriot indeed.

3. Your calculation of course was ignorant since you can not categorically speculate per the actual price, the actual shipping cost, the overall purchase package and contingencies like parts, maintenance, training

How the Bleep I am suppose to the actual shipping cost?

I'm sure those trucks cannot be more than 80 million... But let's assume each costs 100 million, so our minister will be chopping 800 million. I yam not surprised, he was once our governor and I know what and how he did then

9PBLIVE:
According to the Minister of Interior, Rauf Aregbeshola, these "ultra modern fire service trucks" cost whooping N1.8 billion.

The truck actual name is TGM 18.280 fire fighter truck, and the price is €195,000 in VAN VLIET.

Even if CBN sold euros to you at € 1 = ₦ 439 ( which I don't think so), then each truck should cost you ₦85,605,000 and ten should cost ₦856,000,000

Say with the shipping and clearing of these trucks you should still spend a maximum of 95 million naira each!

In other words, Rauf have swallowed the remaining 900 million naira

THUMB UP MY GUY YOU NAILED IT COMPLETELY

lordlugards:
so this one now is $1.1million abi?
Me and you know that what we are seeing here is fairly used truck

T1.1 MILLIONS ?HIS IS ELECTRIC TRUCK SEF

https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/infrastructure/a30316709/electric-fire-truck/

APC,why can't the money be used for building factories that can employ 1000s

9PBLIVE:
According to the Minister of Interior, Rauf Aregbeshola, these "ultra modern fire service trucks" cost whooping N1.8 billion.

The truck actual name is TGM 18.280 fire fighter truck, and the price is €195,000 in VAN VLIET.

Even if CBN sold euros to you at € 1 = ₦ 439 ( which I don't think so), then each truck should cost you ₦85,605,000 and ten should cost ₦856,000,000

Say with the shipping and clearing of these trucks you should still spend a maximum of 95 million naira each!

In other words, Rauf have swallowed the remaining 900 million naira

Not my business to defend anyone but if a vehicle cost 85m, there is no way customs duty will be 10m. It will be way more than that. Everything else you stated is quite in order.

skedman:
180 million for one ,
however at least he bought something that we can physically see compare to the man that was there that could not buy one

Ori yin o te Fe wa pe mo. Una no come dey well again oo. As miserable as Osun is financial person dey openly steal N1b you are there saying rubbish.

9PBLIVE:
According to the Minister of Interior, Rauf Aregbeshola, these "ultra modern fire service trucks" cost whooping N1.8 billion.

The truck actual name is TGM 18.280 fire fighter truck, and the price is €195,000 in VAN VLIET.

Even if CBN sold euros to you at € 1 = ₦ 439 ( which I don't think so), then each truck should cost you ₦85,605,000 and ten should cost ₦856,000,000

Say with the shipping and clearing of these trucks you should still spend a maximum of 95 million naira each!

In other words, Rauf have swallowed the remaining 900 million naira

Criminals

skedman:
180 million for one ,
however at least he bought something that we can physically see compare to the man that was there that could not buy one

That is how you encourage stealing. The price which these trucks were bought is exorbitantly inflated. Stop supporting what is not

frowland:
Not my business to defend anyone but if a vehicle cost 85m, there is no way customs duty will be 10m. It will be way more than that. Everything else you stated is quite in order.

Customs doesn't even charge stuffs brought in by FG

9PBLIVE:
According to the Minister of Interior, Rauf Aregbeshola, these "ultra modern fire service trucks" cost whooping N1.8 billion.

The truck actual name is TGM 18.280 fire fighter truck, and the price is €195,000 in VAN VLIET.

Even if CBN sold euros to you at € 1 = ₦ 439 ( which I don't think so), then each truck should cost you ₦85,605,000 and ten should cost ₦856,000,000

Say with the shipping and clearing of these trucks you should still spend a maximum of 95 million naira each!

In other words, Rauf have swallowed the remaining 900 million naira

You think the calculation is so easy like that. Cleared 4 cars last month with N7.6m excluding shipping cost from Canada compare with a truck.
Most shipping are done by $1.5/kg.

9PBLIVE:
https://mobile.twitter.com/raufaregbesola/status/1270403222964969475

How much dem go pay people weh go use am till dem retire?