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| Re: Hausas Of Kebbi And Kanem Borno Are Ancient Assyrians by techmo(m): 6:29pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
donnie:Africa is a race and a continent so don't fool your self, north Africans are a shade of Africans who lost melanin due to evolution and environmental factors like extreme weather |
| Re: Hausas Of Kebbi And Kanem Borno Are Ancient Assyrians by donnie(op): 6:32pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
techmo:Instead of thinking forward, you're thinking towards ancient beings that aren't even human and you say you are well? I'm speaking of modern man, please. The black man created by YAHUAH in Eden. I'm not part of such madness or stupidity. |
| Re: Hausas Of Kebbi And Kanem Borno Are Ancient Assyrians by MuttleyLaff: 6:33pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
donnie:Big fat lie. The black man wasn't the original man. The original man had a skin complexion that bang in middle black and white (i.e. reddish-brown/yellow/olive skinned) donnie:Another big fat lie. Iraq, is not in Africa, so the setting of the Scriptures is not all in Africa, but is within the Mediterranean Sea region. Even when Abram was asked to leave his country, family and home, it was from Iraq again he received the instruction, not in Africa, lmao. donnie:Is that the new thing you picked up from watching and listening to Black Hebrew Israelite IUIC's leader, Bishop Nathanyel Ben Israel, huh, lmao? What you didnt pick up from him, because he was economical with the truth and so didnt share with you, is that the Suez Canal, was constructed by the Suez Canal Company between 1859 and 1869, only for it to officially open on 17 November 1869 donnie:The inhabitants of the North Africa and the Mediterranean Sea region have always been skin shades complexion that ranged from light to dark colours of the reddish brown spectrum. |
| Re: Hausas Of Kebbi And Kanem Borno Are Ancient Assyrians by donnie(op): 6:35pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
techmo:You're a brainwashed idiot. Have you ever studied the DNA makeup of the various peoples inhabiting this continent? So because some people came here to exploit it's natural resources or set up slave plantations and made a home here, they now belong to the "African race" according to you? I even thought you had some sense. |
| Re: Hausas Of Kebbi And Kanem Borno Are Ancient Assyrians by techmo(m): 6:35pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
donnie:if your theory about Garden of hypocritical land of adam is true then where did dinosours with millions of years come from?, why should I believe baseless un educated man like Moses of Isreal mere slaves to Egyptians about how humanity came about ignoring factual evidence |
| Re: Hausas Of Kebbi And Kanem Borno Are Ancient Assyrians by techmo(m): 6:37pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
donnie:don't be a fool forever .. think straight, you are not anything like Syrians I say so because I live in UAE, Qatar and Oman and I no how foolish you sound thinking you have any link to Syria or the people of damascus |
| Re: Hausas Of Kebbi And Kanem Borno Are Ancient Assyrians by MuttleyLaff: 6:39pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
techmo:www.nairaland.com/attachments/11693682_equator_pngd9b0890fdf7ad3415fba32f412e80968 I am sure the red equator lines, though a bit thin, are clearly visible & the readership know the implication of those red lines as regards to the skin of people living on it or close to it. The tropics include the Equator, Tropic of Cancer and the Tropic of Capricorn and because the tropics get more exposure to the sun, any persons/people living near/on tropics automatically are black skinned. There are no North African or Mediterranean region countries on any tropic so unlike tropical countries don't naturally have black skinned people, that's a fact, so with that nugget in mind the Israelites were olive skinned, or varying shades of reddish brown, just as scripture say king David et al were (i.e. on a spectrum of light reddish brown to dark reddish brown) Now, I think it will be hilarious, should any believe that Adam, who was created in Iraq, outside Africa, will be a black man. (i.e. a black skinned) IMHO, it will only be a dimwit, who would come out to say the Israelites, who are in the Mediterranean Sea region were and/or would be black skinned. The first man, Adam and the Israelites are further away from the equator, as seen in the above world map picture, hence i[b]t'll be illogical to assert they are black-skinned or they are white-skinned. Iraq and Mediterranean sea region, are not in Africa[/b], so the people group in that region were different shades of reddish brown, as in reddish brown in range of light to dark (i.e. on a spectrum of light reddish brown to dark reddish brown) Don't let baba, fool you with his glib and sweet talk. He is a poor student/teacher of history. He hasn't up his game. All he does is copy and paste without understanding the copy and paste first. He is a blind guide |
| Re: Hausas Of Kebbi And Kanem Borno Are Ancient Assyrians by donnie(op): 6:39pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
techmo:See how stupid you are? Who told you you are more educated than Moses was? What factual evidence? White man deceived this one. ![]() |
| Re: Hausas Of Kebbi And Kanem Borno Are Ancient Assyrians by techmo(m): 6:39pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
donnie:Mr Dumb Dumb you are African be proud of your self, you aint jew or arab |
| Re: Hausas Of Kebbi And Kanem Borno Are Ancient Assyrians by MuttleyLaff: 6:40pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
techmo:[img]https://s5/images/ezgif-2-bb81ab7ea10d.gif[/img] |
| Re: Hausas Of Kebbi And Kanem Borno Are Ancient Assyrians by donnie(op): 6:43pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
techmo:Who cares about identifying which some wicked children of Esau conquering lands upandan? Their judgment is coming. The original people have migrated away from that place, you STUPID FOOL...get some sense. |
| Re: Hausas Of Kebbi And Kanem Borno Are Ancient Assyrians by techmo(m): 6:48pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff:lets even assume mythological stories of isrealites as true and ignore your perfect theory of changes in skin tone (melanin composition of skin with nearness to equator or the hottest part of the globe) Adam and to Jesus are just 63 Generations and humans date back hundreds of thousands of years. how is this even possible I have seen real jews, and real arab they are nothing like what Europeans keep forcing on us |
| Re: Hausas Of Kebbi And Kanem Borno Are Ancient Assyrians by MuttleyLaff: 6:49pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
techmo:What you call "mythological stories of Israelites" is circa 5000 years starting from Israel the man, straight on to Israel the Nation, then to now Adam to Jesus is circa 2000 years worth gap, while from Jesus to now, is circa 4000 years. We aren't counting the preexistence of earth before the creation of Adam. techmo:Forget real Jews for the moment. Let's talk North Africa (i.e. Arabs) and Mediterranean Sea regions. What's skin complexion range do the people group from them region have. Also are they on or close to any of the equators that will necessitate their melanin production to kick in so to protect them from the directly overhead scorching sun heat? |
| Re: Hausas Of Kebbi And Kanem Borno Are Ancient Assyrians by techmo(m): 7:04pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
donnie: ![]() you have nothing linking you to Jews or Arab, they aint your daddy, if you say this in isreal or gcc country they would think of you as dumb and stupid stupid dumbos should be made to read this When Jesus began to minister in the world, his only intended audience was God’s people, the Jews. It is recorded in Matthew 15: 24 “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.” Remember, God chose the Israelite’s as his own and He was their God. If you were drawn to God, you didn’t remain a Gentile and worship God, you were circumcised as a male and became Jewish. Then you followed the Jewish customs, laws and worshiped God Matthew 15: 21-28 a Canaanite woman begs for Jesus to save her daughter who is possessed by a demon and suffering. The woman knelt before him and said, “Lord, help me!” Jesus replied that it is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs. The woman engages Jesus further by stating, “Yes it is, Lord,” “Even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master’s table.Yeshua repeatedly said he was child of son of Isreal Yahweh sent to bring back the lost sheeps of isreal, chuchi abiama or your village god aint YhWH, you are not an isrealite you are just a dumb Ediot fooled by your colonial masters . . |
| Re: Hausas Of Kebbi And Kanem Borno Are Ancient Assyrians by techmo(m): 7:12pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff:Arab isn't an ethnicity or a race(so to say, they don't share same looks, they are just bounded by similar cultures, people keep making that mistake, Iranians are more Caucasian than middle eastern, same as Syrians, Saudis and Egyptians are far different and for some strange reasons Morocans look more like caucasian.. Africans are brown skinned and shades of brown, Caucasians are pinkish whitish shade, Arabs range from bronze + white to yellowish white |
| Re: Hausas Of Kebbi And Kanem Borno Are Ancient Assyrians by MuttleyLaff: 7:22pm On Jun 13, 2020*. Modified: 7:41pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
techmo:I never said Arab is an ethnicity or race techmo:True I once had a work colleague, who was from Iran originally. He had Caucasian white looking skin. Not really Caucasian white, but because he didnt have an Iranian accent, you easily would take him for a white person. It is first name and long unusual Iranian last name that gives him away not being native white, lmao techmo:All these people group with the exception of African are on a light to dark spectrum of reddish brown/yellow/oilve skin complexion techmo:Thank you for admitting this very sweet little gem of info here, lmao. Baba won't be to happy reading this, lmao. Watch as he'll soon turn up to call you an idiot, lmao. By the way, Arabs are Semitic by ethnicity, they themselves are Semites, just as like the Israelites are |
| Re: Hausas Of Kebbi And Kanem Borno Are Ancient Assyrians by donnie(op): 7:35pm On Jun 13, 2020*. Modified: 8:45pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
techmo:Behold the Post of an idiot, by an idiot and for idiots. Lest I forget, this includes the idiot that liked the post. You have moved from being a traditionalist, to a wannabe evolutionist, to preaching YAHUAH, now you are choosing which god should be worshiped... how stupid can one be? ![]() |
| Re: Hausas Of Kebbi And Kanem Borno Are Ancient Assyrians by MuttleyLaff: 7:39pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
donnie:www.nairaland.com/attachments/6248100_obasanjosayingntor_jpeg19035170b7f2fc4a2c166956c808e236 |
| Re: Hausas Of Kebbi And Kanem Borno Are Ancient Assyrians by HornyTave: 8:54pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
donnie:Nah, my point is, I'm not inferior to claim to be an Israeli to have a sense of worth. I'm an African, a direct descendant of the first man not some herders with cattles from middle east. your religion has achieved the ultimate goal to make your culture and heritage worthless. I spit on you |
| Re: Hausas Of Kebbi And Kanem Borno Are Ancient Assyrians by donnie(op): 9:09pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
HornyTave:Isreali? You don't understand what I'm about, just forget it. It's not a religion. If you're Isrealite, you are Isrealite. It's by birth. |
| Re: Hausas Of Kebbi And Kanem Borno Are Ancient Assyrians by jamesid29(m): 9:19pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
techmo:Where do you guys come up with all theories?... Please stop listening to some nutjobs on YouTube. |
| Re: Hausas Of Kebbi And Kanem Borno Are Ancient Assyrians by techmo(m): 9:21pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
jamesid29:why not tackle me on points by points bases cos I have your time |
| Re: Hausas Of Kebbi And Kanem Borno Are Ancient Assyrians by jamesid29(m): 9:24pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
techmo:Okay... Let's start with the first one. Can you walk me through how you got Jesus means wild pig in greek and latin |
| Re: Hausas Of Kebbi And Kanem Borno Are Ancient Assyrians by techmo(m): 9:35pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
jamesid29:in Latin "Ge" ; earthly while "SUS" means Pigs (feel free to google it) however in Hebrew Yehoshua comes from the root ישע yod-shin-'ayin, meaning "to deliver, save, or rescue". ... The name Yeshua is a shortened version of the name Yehoshua or Joshua and is the literal Hebrew word for Salvation... Hebrew don't have any word called Jesus, what they have is Yeshua kindly google that too |
| Re: Hausas Of Kebbi And Kanem Borno Are Ancient Assyrians by jamesid29(m): 9:47pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
techmo:Ok, so I'm a bit tired this night to walk you through how we got the name Jesus from Joshua ,so I'll give you two articles to go through 1)https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_(name) I'm not a big fan of Wikipedia but I think this one is ok 2)https://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2013/12/jesus.html |
| Re: Hausas Of Kebbi And Kanem Borno Are Ancient Assyrians by MuttleyLaff: 1:09am On Jun 14, 2020*. Modified: 3:45am On Jun 14, 2020 |
techmo: donnie:Yinmu. What you'll badly teach, as usual is going to be limited to circa 1400s HornyTave:lmao donnie:[img]https://s1/images/MuttAmin.gif[/img] Barawo, lmao Don't understand your identity theft abi? jamesid29:You should be saying the same to baba actually. Mister d, fresh from listening to and watching that Black Hebrew Israelites Bishop's YouTube interview, came online to regurgitate the bullpiss, useless theories and misinformation from it. techmo: jamesid29: techmo: jamesid29:techmo is not disputing how we got the name Jesus from Joshua, using English transliterated names, but is talking of the originals (i.e. Hebrew/Aramaic) and how the anglicised/English word, the name Jesus, means something else, as Iesous, in Greek, that's all, lmao. Now, before you get set to do a come back, like I envisage you will do, lmao, please first consider and carefully think about, which, in writing, came first between Koine Greek and Latin? Those people underestimated in life, can often serve as correct guides to the ignorance and/or lack of vision of those underestimating them, lmao. Facts, do not cease to exist because they are ignored. Never underestimate the biblical awareness and sense of reality in seemingly quiet techmo persons. They are some of the most observant, absorbent persons of all, just like roteyy is, who has only typed once but is regularly in the background keeping tabs. |
| Re: Hausas Of Kebbi And Kanem Borno Are Ancient Assyrians by jamesid29(m): 10:16pm On Jun 14, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff:Happy Sunday. Firstly sir, I'm not sure how it came across that I underestimate techmo as a person. My comment about the nutjobs on YouTube was less about him and more about those people who like spreading wild theories on blogs or YouTube when they have no idea what they are talking about. My apologies to techmo if my remarks came as personal attacks to him as a person. It wasn't my intention. To the crust of the matter. in Latin "Ge" ; earthly while "SUS" means Pigs (feel free to google it)Ok so first of all the Latin the transliteration for the English word Jesus is Iesus not Gesus. Sidenote" the letter gamma(gi) in greek is not equivalent to je in English" Secondly, the only way you can get Gesus to mean earth(or wild) pig is to compound two words from 2 different languages GE meaning earth in Greek and SUS meaning pig in Latin. These are two different languages . Aside from the fact that Jesus is not a compound word,you can't mix two different languages and come up with a whole new meaning for a word in a third language. That is a very bad way of doing etymology. Back to the case. As I said earlier Jesus is an English translations for the Latin word Iesus which is turn is a transliteration for the Greek word Iesous which is turn a transliteration of the Hebrew word Yeshua. Why begin our transliterate from greek rather than directly from Hebrew? That's because the entire new testament was written in greek not Hebrew, so we begin our transliteration with how His name was written in the new testament. There is simply no manuscript evidence that shows that the the new testament authors used Yeshua, all our manuscript show his name was written as Iesous or the nomina sacra "ΙΣ" ...Also all the earliest church writings( like the Didache,dated to the first century) and church fathers from Polycarp(disciple of apostle John) to Clement(disciple of Apostle Peter) all writing in Greek used Iesous, which in turn first appeared in the Septuagint [greek translation of the old testament used by the apostles and the early church]. We use the name Joshua when we are transliterating from the Hebrew old testament and we use the name Jesus when we are transliterating from the Greek new testament(except for places where the new testament author is is referring to Joshua son of nun, so as to avoid confusion by modern readers). Both names mean the same thing, just as Jacob and James, Mary and Maria, Judas and Jude. An Aside: I'll like to point to a growing concern where some people are beginning to require others to use Jesus's Jewish name Yeshua(or Yehoshua) because they believe there is something inherently wrong with the name Jesus. This is wrong, because to be consistent we would have to change all the Greek names in the Greek new testament to Jewish names and would have to eventually require every one to read the entire Bible in biblical Hebrew (which would pose a problem for most people I believe). God does not require us to read his word in one particular language because even though salvation started from the Jews , it is available for everyone everywhere with out anybody needing to become a Jew (Jerusalem council Acts 15). Unlike our Muslim brothers and friends that have to learn Arabic,The Bible can be read in any language on earth and the name of the Lord can be called in any Language given to man from "Iesous in greek" to "Jesus in English" to "Jesu in Yoruba" to "Yēsū in Chinese" or "Yeshua in shortened Hebrew", as long as you are calling on the name with the second person of the trinity at heart, the Person behind the name listens to us. The apostle Paul had to lock heads with the Jewish believers who were trying to add unneeded requirements on the gentile believers by requiring them to become Jews in terms of circumcisions, observing Passover etc hence the need for the first ecumenical council in Acts 15 and the ruling of the apostles against it. Saying people must use Yeshua instead of Jesus is also Judaizing. The first two answers on hermeneutics.stackexchange give were good breakdown of how the two names diverge https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/4122/if-joshua-can-be-translated-why-is-the-name-of-jesus-translated-jesus-but-his Below is the breakdown of the earliest complete new testament codex we have "Codex Sinaticus". https://www.hebrew4christians.com/Names_of_G-d/Sinaticus/sinaticus.html |
| Re: Hausas Of Kebbi And Kanem Borno Are Ancient Assyrians by jamesid29(m): 1:29pm On Jun 15, 2020*. Modified: 1:49pm On Jun 15, 2020 |
techmo:I hope my answer to MuttleyLaff above has helped clear up some of the misconceptions about the name Jesus and how Gesus is neither a Latin word nor the derivative of the word Jesus, but the concatenation of two different words from two different languages. Have a good week. |
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