Hello WhyNa,

Thanks for the good job you're doing here. How big is the IT sector in vietnam? Is there a demand for programmers? Your answer is highly appreciated.

WhyNa:
Hey guys, its's been a while and for good reasons too. I don't even know where to start from....

First off, big shout outs to Azubix for taking time to do research, get more info and share with the group. Bless up and more grease to your elbow.

Second, to the niaralander who I know would want to stay anon, thanks for trusting me...it's been 3 months and counting. Thanks. More on this later.

Now to updates......it's been 4 wonderful months of staying in Hanoi, vietnam and it has been a great experience. I'll start with the old and new jobs....

SkyOne11:

Did u go for it?

I want to. Still sourcing for funds.

techjeff:
@AzUbix   
What school did you apply $1,400 said you should paid before getting the visa? I did chat with the school representative on WhatsApp @ FPT University and the University said l most pay first payment before getting a student below 
includes:- 1st year tuition fee: 3,900 USD- administration fee: 200 USD- health insurance: 160 USDTotal: 4,260 USD
Did you add administration fees and health insurance on the $1,400? What names of the school you a

Am actually going for FPT too but the $1,400 is not for the school, its from the Vietnamese government.
It's the Vietnamese government that is quarantining you not the school so you might move from the airport by a government bus straight to a government assigned 4 star hotel for quarantine.

FPT released a blog i think on the 23rd June and they sent me the link. It states that students have 3 options for september resumption.

1. Resume August and be quarantined in a 4 star hotel for 14days in which you will pay $1,400 or
2. Pay your tuition fee and do your first semester online then come over by January or
3. Just wait till January semester to apply but you will pay the normal tuition fee.

To me, option 1 is the best if you have the money because
1. a lot of teaching jobs are available now due to shortage of teacher. The borders might still be closed to tourists till late this year or next year so you can smartly secure a job now and sign a 1 year contract.
2. By January if the border is opened, there will be a lot of rush yet very few jobs because February is one of the worse time to look for job due to the their TET holiday.
3. How sure are we that things will open up by that January, what if the cases worldwide keeps increasing or does not reduce as expected and you are still required to still quarantine and pay the $1,400 lol.
4. If you can arrive Vietnam August/September and you secure a job that you can save like $500 as @WhyNa told us, oct to dec(3 months) you have save $1,500 making back your $1,400 and also settling down.

think about it, think about it. lol.

azubix:


Am actually going for FPT too but the $1,400 is not for the school, its from the Vietnamese government.
It's the Vietnamese government that is quarantining you not the school so you might move from the airport by a government bus straight to a government assigned 4 star hotel for quarantine.

FPT released a blog i think on the 23rd June and they sent me the link. It states that students have 3 options for september resumption.

1. Resume August and be quarantined in a 4 star hotel for 14days in which you will pay $1,400 or
2. Pay your tuition fee and do your first semester online then come over by January or
3. Just wait till January semester to apply but you will pay the normal tuition fee.

To me, option 1 is the best if you have the money because
1. a lot of teaching jobs are available now due to shortage of teacher. The borders might still be closed to tourists till late this year or next year so you can smartly secure a job now and sign a 1 year contract.
2. By January if the border is opened, there will be a lot of rush yet very few jobs because February is one of the worse time to look for job due to the their TET holiday.
3. How sure are we that things will open up by that January, what if the cases worldwide keeps increasing or does not reduce as expected and you are still required to still quarantine and pay the $1,400 lol.
4. If you can arrive Vietnam August/September and you secure a job that you can save like $500 as @WhyNa told us, oct to dec(3 months) you have save $1,500 making back your $1,400 and also settling down.

think about it, think about it. lol.

hmm that makes sense. Wise thinking. Thanks for sharing your thought. azubix

SkyOne11:


I tried googling about it. It seems legal to work while studying in Veitnam.

On the website of FPT University, they mention part-time jobs for international students. They also have programs to help students to find part-time jobs to cover living-expenses.

from what I have gathered it's legal if you are sponsored by the school but if not get ready to give kick back to the police should you be caught.. most of the schools in South East Asia have this on their website but the reality is the schools will rarely break a neck to find jobs for you compared to how they do with Chinese and other foreign students plus any part time job you will get teaching will probably cover your daily expenses from months to months but if you are thinking of paying your school bill that way then you are on your own....

Thank you for keeping this lively... I appreciate your efforts. You are really lucky on your current job offers , declining the initial job offer in the remote was a bold step.

WhyNa:
Yesterday, I had to see a dermatologist cos I was having someone reactions. I was sort of worried cos I needed to beat Hanoi traffic and get back to class in time.

I didn't spend up to 30 minutes there. I didn't even seat for a total of 5 minutes. Everything was sooo fast.

I paid for consultation, them print slip give me, Went upstairs,waited for 1 minute, saw doctor, talked, examined, diagnosed, prescribed drugs and I went down and paid for drugs and cream.

He also noted I shouldn't bath with soap. The other time I went to a pharmacy for over the counter boil treatment (you should watch out for this if you're like me and react to water in a new environment). I was asked not to eat chicken and sticky rice

@ AZUBIX

Thanks for the reply message.Do the school FPT ask you to pay tuition fees full section before getting the visa? Because the administration guy said l should pay full 1st year tuition fee $3900 with administration fees $200 and health insurance $160 total $4,260?

And also the school told you $1,400 from the Vietnamese government for quarantine for 14 days?

SkyOne11:


hmm that makes sense. Wise thinking. Thanks for sharing your thought. azubix

Azubix, please send a message to the school. Getting quarantined in a four star hotel is optional. If you get quarantined in the military designated zone, it's free

Also, as a student, your working hours would be limited so I don't know the possibility of saving $500.

Just try and do the maths sha.

techjeff:
@ AZUBIX

Thanks for the reply message.Do the school FPT ask you to pay tuition fees full section before getting the visa? Because the administration guy said l should pay full 1st year tuition fee $3900 with administration fees $200 and health insurance $160 total $4,260?

And also the school told you $1,400 from the Vietnamese government for quarantine for 14 days?

Yes, you will have to pay full tuition fee for the first year plus admin and health insurance but when you get your temporal admission letter, it will come with a fee plan where they will analyse your payment for you.

Yea. The school sent me the link to their blog where they explianed the quarantine stuff.

WhyNa:


Azubix, please send a message to the school. Getting quarantined in a four star hotel is optional. If you get quarantined in the military designated zone, it's free

Also, as a student, your working hours would be limited so I don't know the possibility of saving $500.

Just try and do the maths sha.

Great advice, i will ask them about tge military stuff, never knew there could be another option.

Yea. that's true, the work hours will be shorter and might not reach that $500.

azubix:
http://international.fpt.edu.vn/fpt-education-announces-september-intake-2020-admission/

This is the link to the update on quarantine and September resumption.

I just chatted up the school admission rep on WhatsApp and these where his response to me. It also seems its strickly hotel that must be used and you must pay the $1,400 before they start processing visa. Read below...

""""The quarantine fee is used when you first arrive to Vietnam so it will be paid to us (FPT University) then we will arrange that for students
Actually when we receive the quarantine fee from students, we will send it to the relevant authority, we will not keep it
We need to inform the immigration office about your quarantine when we submit documents for visa approval letter from here in Vietnam
So everything must be done before processing visa in Vietnam
We can't process visa if the quarantine fee is not paid, that is decision from the Vietnamese goverment and we also have to follow in my opinion, you should start your online studying first, it is no need to process visa from now, it can be done by end of year (like you said that you will come here that time)
We know this, even our dormitory was donated for quarantine zone 2 months ago, but for now, we can't use them.
It is quite sad for us
I myself can do 1 thing now which is praying""""""

azubix:
I just chatted up the school admission rep on WhatsApp and these where his response to me. It also seems its strickly hotel that must be used and you must pay the $1,400 before they start processing visa. Read below...

""""The quarantine fee is used when you first arrive to Vietnam so it will be paid to us (FPT University) then we will arrange that for students
Actually when we receive the quarantine fee from students, we will send it to the relevant authority, we will not keep it
We need to inform the immigration office about your quarantine when we submit documents for visa approval letter from here in Vietnam
So everything must be done before processing visa in Vietnam
We can't process visa if the quarantine fee is not paid, that is decision from the Vietnamese goverment and we also have to follow in my opinion, you should start your online studying first, it is no need to process visa from now, it can be done by end of year (like you said that you will come here that time)
We know this, even our dormitory was donated for quarantine zone 2 months ago, but for now, we can't use them.
It is quite sad for us
I myself can do 1 thing now which is praying""""""

Wow nice reply

@ AZUBIX

It is spsad the school will have to recieve the $1,400 for the quarantine and the school fees before process the visa cost so much.

If you add $1,400 plus $4,260 will be $5660 alots of money here. Maybe the school want Nigerian to study online before coming over next year.

azubix:
I just chatted up the school admission rep on WhatsApp and these where his response to me. It also seems its strickly hotel that must be used and you must pay the $1,400 before they start processing visa. Read below...

""""The quarantine fee is used when you first arrive to Vietnam so it will be paid to us (FPT University) then we will arrange that for students
Actually when we receive the quarantine fee from students, we will send it to the relevant authority, we will not keep it
We need to inform the immigration office about your quarantine when we submit documents for visa approval letter from here in Vietnam
So everything must be done before processing visa in Vietnam
We can't process visa if the quarantine fee is not paid, that is decision from the Vietnamese goverment and we also have to follow in my opinion, you should start your online studying first, it is no need to process visa from now, it can be done by end of year (like you said that you will come here that time)
We know this, even our dormitory was donated for quarantine zone 2 months ago, but for now, we can't use them.
It is quite sad for us
I myself can do 1 thing now which is praying""""""

Hmmm. Guess the rule changes. It was optional before.

That's quite expensive sha considering accommodation and food is cheap

sKeetz:
Hello WhyNa,

Thanks for the good job you're doing here. How big is the IT sector in vietnam? Is there a demand for programmers? Your answer is highly appreciated.

I really don't know but if it's possible, then they have people here already and English I think is one of the highest if not the highest paying job here

techjeff:
@ AZUBIX

It is spsad the school will have to recieve the $1,400 for the quarantine and the school fees before process the visa cost so much.

If you add $1,400 plus $4,260 will be $5660 alots of money here. Maybe the school want Nigerian to study online before coming over next year.

Its really too much. Yea. I feel they dont want to miss out on this year's tuition fee so they are trying to encourage international students to do online this year.

Nigeria internet is not the best for online learning at all.

Finally, for those who want to use the study route to go for teaching, the aim is defeated with this. The best might just be to wait till next year and get a agent to help process the visa and work permit.

WhyNa:


Hmmm. Guess the rule changes. It was optional before.

That's quite expensive sha considering accommodation and food is cheap

It's really very expensive. To be patient till next year and use agent is just the best shot.

Let's keep watching how new rules unfold sha.

WhyNa:
Hey guys, its's been a while and for good reasons too. I don't even know where to start from....

First off, big shout outs to Azubix for taking time to do research, get more info and share with the group. Bless up and more grease to your elbow.

Second, to the niaralander who I know would want to stay anon, thanks for trusting me...it's been 3 months and counting. Thanks. More on this later.

Now to updates......it's been 4 wonderful months of staying in Hanoi, vietnam and it has been a great experience. I'll start with the old and new jobs....

I've been anonymous from first page and I must say you are doing a wonderful job please keep updating even if it gets to 100 pages or more don't be discouraged by anybody or mode we will be following you keenly more grace to your staying.

I have a Vietnamese friend. We talk almost everyday. Baba wants me to play Fifa with him online, not knowing how internet matter be for here
I was pained when he said $8 for unlimited data. If I get that kind data enhh
Vietnam is a low income country but they seem to have basic things easy and they're quite satisfied unlike......

Well, he studies at Can Tho University. 4th ranked in the country. If you need some info, let me know here, maybe I can be of help.
Azubix
techjeff

Coolberry:
I have a Vietnamese friend. We talk almost everyday. Baba wants me to play Fifa with him online, not knowing how internet matter be for here
I was pained when he said $8 for unlimited data. If I get that kind data enhh
Vietnam is a low income country but they seem to have basic things easy and they're quite satisfied unlike......

Well, he studies at Can Tho University. 4th ranked in the country. If you need some info, let me know here, maybe I can be of help.
Azubix
techjeff

this is crazy
$8 for a month. No wonder someone said some apartment comes with free data. If I get that kind data ehn, all motivational videos for YouTube will be in my head. YouTube go suffer!!!!

OYENIYIJK:

this is crazy
$8 for a month. No wonder someone said some apartment comes with free data. If I get that kind data ehn, all motivational videos for YouTube will be in my head. YouTube go suffer!!!!

Lol like you know what I'm thinking.
I don't remember the last time I watched youtube. I usually use head calculate my data consumption, see stress, yet I consume 16gb every two weeks(no instagram,YouTube,netflix,pc) Just on this samsung alone.
These little things matter a lot. No wonder kids abroad are smarter and innovative.


Ps too much motivational videos are unnecessary, just take an action.

Coolberry:
I have a Vietnamese friend. We talk almost everyday. Baba wants me to play Fifa with him online, not knowing how internet matter be for here
I was pained when he said $8 for unlimited data. If I get that kind data enhh
Vietnam is a low income country but they seem to have basic things easy and they're quite satisfied unlike......

Well, he studies at Can Tho University. 4th ranked in the country. If you need some info, let me know here, maybe I can be of help.
Azubix
techjeff

This is great and yes I learnt data is very cheap and fast too.

I will research the school and get back to you if i have questions.

Thanks so much bro.

Coolberry:


Lol like you know what I'm thinking.
I don't remember the last time I watched youtube. I usually use head calculate my data consumption, see stress, yet I consume 16gb every two weeks(no instagram,YouTube,netflix,pc) Just on this samsung alone.
These little things matter a lot. No wonder kids abroad are smarter and innovative.


Ps too much motivational videos are unnecessary, just take an action.

Thanks for the advice. They have succeeded in taking me as their customer but I will surely find a way to be using 3GB in a week.
Thanks Boss

@ whyna

Any news on when borders will reopen and Visa application restart?

lucasalves:


sorry you mean working in Vietnam or other countries?? cos if you are saying people can work in Vietnam with student visa that's a big NO..

OK

nobody is talking about block account abi vietham Universities doesn't require a block account??

Danny6552:
nobody is talking about block account abi vietham Universities doesn't require a block account??

Yeah na my account u go pay am put in blocks!!

azubix:


This is great and yes I learnt data is very cheap and fast too.

I will research the school and get back to you if i have questions.

Thanks so much bro.

You're welcome. It's nothing.
Just looking out for the thread.

So whyna do abadome us for here.. Make una port to DanielHouston thread oo.. pictures dey rain cat and dog for there.. I don see and laugh tire