₦airaland Forum

Olu317:
Lol! Uncircumcised in reality . I wish you knew Yoruba history deep at that period the lecturer stated such, So that you probably make mockery of him because nothing informative is written about their exploit in West Africa.

gregyboy:
You love talking in myth...... What is europa... With this simple history

I read an hausa ancient book, sometime ago on the description of the name yorubas, it still fits today narrative of yorubas, in the book they describe, yorubas as weaklings, deceptive and cunny fellows, it. all started after Afonja invited the Fulanis to strengthen is army against his yoruba superiors in a cunny manner, he was later overthrown by the same fulani he sought his help from with assistance from his yoruba subjects, before he died he cursed his yoruba subjects for supporting his overthrowment, his curse was Yoruba will always be ruled over by the Fulanis till they will be completely destroyed

rhektor:
Lol

Gregy the f00l a weakling is also cunning can you see how f00lish you are?

gregyboy:
If one afonja weakling is pained i wont be bothered come in your numbers and come bold not as a coward but as an equal man.....

For me the yorubas are cowards and mouth makers period

Osagyefo98:
Take it easy on these people
Dem go swear for you ooo

TAO11:
I'm so, so pleased to see how my fellow Yoruba people are dealing with our Edo slaves.

Our heroes past (i.e. Oranmiyan, Awolowo, et al.) must be so pleased to read these threads and realize that their labours over their Edo slaves was never in vain.

I will conclude by citng one of the earliest sources on Benin history, viz. H.L. Gallwey (1893).

H.L. Gallwey notes on pages 127-128 of his 1893 "Journeys in the Benin Country, West Africa" along the following lines:

"It is virtually impossible that the word 'brave' should appear in the same sentence with the name 'Edo'."

Reference: H.L. Gallwey, "Journeys in the Benin Country, West Africa", The Geographical Journal, Vol. 1, No. 2 (Feb., 1893), pp. 127-128.
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In other new: "Yoruba" = "Oyo r'Oba" = "Oyo is King" -- An home-grown Oyo hegemonic endonym.


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TAO11:
I'm so, so pleased to see how my fellow Yoruba people are dealing with our Edo slaves.

Our heroes past (i.e. Oranmiyan, Awolowo, et al.) must be so pleased to read these threads and realize that their labours over their Edo slaves was never in vain.

I will wrap this up by citng one of the earliest sources on Benin history, viz. H.L. Gallwey (1893).

H.L. Gallwey notes on pages 127-128 of his 1893 "Journeys in the Benin Country, West Africa" along the following paraphrased lines:

"It is virtually impossible that the word 'brave' should appear in the same sentence with the name 'Edo'."

Reference: H.L. Gallwey, "Journeys in the Benin Country, West Africa", The Geographical Journal, Vol. 1, No. 2 (Feb., 1893), pp. 127-128.
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In other news: "Yoruba" = "Oyo r' Oba" = "Oyo is the King" --- An Oyo hegemonic endonym.


Cheers! cc: rhektor, Pharaoh4rin, Olu317, Podakejol, llakes4real, lawani, firestar, baby124

Podakejol:
Nice one there. Hopefully others like our slaves from Benin would learn

Olu317:
To be honest, I can only agree with over 95% of your take on Igodomigodo false claim which you've proved beyond reasonable doubt that they were colonised by Yoruba ancestors. While some of them became assimilated through intermarriages, conscription through priests apprenticeship,as servants and votaries.Kudos

gregyboy:
Ciwards slaves to the grand Master from the north your eldest brothers



As long we are still ruling the yorubas as kings in thier various land and kwara is still been ruled by the north i wilk keep calling you all cowards

Podakejol:
Arindin. Your mumu oba of Benin is under yoruba kings. Benin is part of yoruba land and it will be like that forever

Edo is a very useless state and nothing good can ever come out of your useless unproductive state

As you can see yorubas are one of the two major and important tribes in Nigeria unlike your minority Edo that has been conquered by we the yorubas

gregyboy:
Prove cowards, prove cowards are known to be loud and boldess so use your mouth to type to prove me benin-ife never existed

If not you will be a total coward both verbally and mindfully

Ciwards die before thier very day.... Lol cowards and Atlantic slaves

Podakejol:
Lol e pain am die. Benin will always be our slaves which even your inconsequential oba of Benin can testify to.

Cowards wey awolowo 1 oppress die

gregyboy:
I see pains behind the keyboard, and oozing cowardice awolowo oppressed us and we fought out, the north have been oppressing the yorubas and since inception they cant fight out,

Look coward you all better dont sell us to your brothers up north 2023, ondo, ekiti, osun make una dey hear and the others if not lagos is not occupied by yorubas alone maybe dey would have still sold us to the yoruba masters......
Instead of fighting the igbos as enemies and underestimate the south south we can all come together to win 2023......for once you guys shouldn't be yorubas

Podakejol:
As you can see, yorubas are more important than any tribe in Nigeria. We and the north have been oppressing the rest of you fools since 5000BC. We drill oil in south south region to develop Lagos and we left yor stupid unproductive south south undeveloped

I just want to tell you that we will keep oppressing you idiots especially in Edo till Jesus comes.

Igbos are 5% and Edo is inconsequential. Yoruba will be the next president whether you like it or not

gregyboy:
Fools, is a know fact the strength of the cowards lies in their mouth, mumu you don't even know history lagos was developed before the discovery of oil, lagos was developed from the profit of yoruba slave sold through the Atlantic Tinubu ancestory is a living witness, the oil used in developing lagos was taken by the north to buy your slave loyalty to them, you guys are spineless to do such thing, the cowardice of yoruba is all encoded in thier culture only me can see it, the igbos are coming for your head yujin, Osagyfo98.......


South south undeveloped ha ha ha lol, TAO11 is smarter you are a clown.......

If igbos have the population as the yorubas they wont be ass lickers to thier equals see the ass licking of yoruba to hausa has almost caused tinibu to be disgraced we arent talking about the dwarf and his allegations

Yorubas and hausa is just a thin line that separates you both, slave ans master

gregyboy:
Fools, is a know fact the strength of the cowards lies in their mouth, mumu you don't even know history lagos was developed before the discovery of oil, lagos was developed from the profit of yoruba slave sold through the Atlantic Tinubu ancestory is a living witness, the oil used in developing lagos was taken by the north to buy your slave loyalty to them, you guys are spineless to do such thing, the cowardice of yoruba is all encoded in thier culture only me can see it, the igbos are coming for your head yujin, Osagyfo98.......


South south undeveloped ha ha ha lol, TAO11 is smarter you are a clown.......

If igbos have the population as the yorubas they wont be ass lickers to thier equals see the ass licking of yoruba to hausa has almost caused tinibu to be disgraced we arent talking about the dwarf and his allegations

Yorubas and hausa is just a thin line that separates you both, slave ans master

Podakejol:
E pain am die oloribu.
Edo State oil is part of the oil used to develop Lagos state. Awolowo used natural resources from Edo State to develop western region then
Can you see how we have been oppressing you fools till date.
Igbos and te whole of south south no reach yorubas. So stop clowning with the ‘igbos are coming for your head’ line because both igbos and edos are cowards that we have been oppressing so many years ago

As you can see how we tax igbos heavily in Lagos that we impose iyaloja and babaloja and those idiotic fools to tax them very high

We even pipe gas from IMO and delta states to ogun and Lagos states to build industrial estates which results in increase in fdi in south west while there’s decrease in fdi in your useless Edo and IMO states

Now we just built railway from Lagos to Ibadan with oil money from Edo and other useless states in south south

Now wail till death because the oppression from we the bigger guys(north and south west) would never stop till Nigeria breaks

Yujin:
Lol. You get big mouth. Enjoy while it last but remember that he that takes home an ant infested wood is inviting the lizard to his home for supper.

Yujin:
Gregyboy, don't mention me and that impostor on the same sentence. It's an insult to my personality.
Now, as to population where you are alluding that Igbos have lesser population than Yorubas, I want to say that you're very wrong. Try and speak about what you know. If you've travelled to different parts of Nigeria, you won't have written what you wrote.

gregyboy:
My bad,i didnt mean it that way bro

Podakejol:
That’s the truth there.

Which state are you from?

Yujin:
I'm proudly from Igboland. The state doesn't matter.

Podakejol:
At least yorubas are neater than your olosho women and armed robbers all over Edo State

And remember yorubas are also nearer than your stupid smelly ugly werey Oba of Benin

llakes4real:
What Yoruba means or doesn't mean is inconsequential! What is the meaning of English, Hausa, Fulani or Igbo?

Low self-esteem is when you allow an alien define the meaning of your name. What if I told you the meaning of your name is "a f00l"? Why would you take my definition of your name over yours? Low self-worth!

My definition of Yoruba is a group of people who live in West Africa. That is all!

Podakejol:
Shut up with your ugly oloribu Oba of Benin wey be like aboki

Podakejol:
Says a state raided for slaves by Ibadan warriors including your foolish weak olofo oba of benin

Podakejol:
Lol e pain am die. Benin will always be our slaves which even your inconsequential oba of Benin can testify to.

Cowards wey awolowo 1 oppress die

As an ethnic description, the word "Yoruba" was first recorded in reference to the Oyo Empire in a treatise written by the 16th century Songhai scholar Ahmed Baba.

It was popularized by Hausa usage and ethnography written in Arabic and Ajami during the 19th century, in origin referring to the Oyo exclusively.

The extension of the term to all speakers of dialects related to the usage of the Oyo (in modern terminology North-West Yoruba) dates to the second half of the 19th century.

It is due to the influence of Samuel Ajayi Crowther, the first Anglican bishop in Nigeria. Crowther was himself a Yoruba and compiled the first Yoruba dictionary as well as introducing a standard for Yoruba orthography.

The alternative name Akú, apparently an exonym derived from the first words of Yoruba greetings (such as Ẹ kú àárọ? "good morning", Ẹ kú alẹ? "good evening"wink has survived in certain parts of our diaspora as a self-descriptive, especially in Sierra Leone.

The first name the Yorubas were called was Yoruba.

What does that mean? I carried on, Samuel Ajayi Crowther in his Yoruba dictionary defines ‘Yoruba’ as a bastard and deceitful person in Hausa.

Another description comes from the Dr Taiwo Ayanbolu who insisted Yoruba is a name derived from Hausa language which means deceit. He claimed he found the definition at York Museum in England dating to the 19th century.

It has been recorded that the Hausa-Fulani who had been in contact with the Yoruba even before the rise of Oyo Empire had for some reasons chosen to call us Yoruba, or Yaribansa. Perhaps this might have been a result of Yoruba people’s bargaining skills which often made the Fulani traders fall victim of trade by barter.

Some say that the word Yoruba started protruding during the clash between Yoruba and Fulani that steered the lost of Ilorin to them in the 18th century.

Professor Ade Ajayi in “Yoruba Warfare in the Nineteenth century” insisted that during the indirect rule era, it was necessary for the imperialists to give a unique name to the entire towns and people who spoke Yoruba language.

Somehow, they settled for Yoruba. Yoruba is a deviation of Yoruba which the Yoruba people of that century rejected. The Ijebu, Ijesa and Egba rejected this name vehemently but because during the Kiriji war (the Yoruba civil war) where the collapse of Oyo Empire commenced and the signalling factor the imperialists used to prompt the rule over Oyo from covers.

The name Yoruba was foisted on Oyo and Ibadan mainly on documents and slowly the name Yoruba was enshrined in our culture and hence, our appellation. Research shows that the Egba were the last to accept Yoruba as their appellation, reason coming from facts emanating from the first newspaper published in Yorubaland in 1859, goes: Iwe Iroyin Fun Ara Egba Ati Yoruba. This indicates that the Egba refused the name Yoruba as at 1859.

Furthermore, in the Ifa Corpus there's no Odu where we were referred to as Yoruba, rather, it is as Omo Kaaro Ojiire, Omo Oduduwa or Omoluabi.

Thus said, the word Yoruba is new in our vocabulary and it is a way of showing we accepted a negative appellation dropped on us by hostile foreigners.

Debo Kayode Ogunranti