₦airaland Forum

isthatso:
Everybody is damaged, thats the price of association with Ibos it is the nature of the ibo man, look at the way you have spolit lagos bringing the filth of Aba to places like festac, Amuwo etc. ikeja. Everything in the market is fake because you are the ones controlling commerce. iI things dont go his way (and things must always go his way for there to be "peace" ) otherwise he will scatter everything for everybody. The North warned the British before independence they didnt want to be a part of Nigeria thats why our independence came in 1960 not 1956, it was Zik that inisted that they must be part of Nigeria and delayed independence so he could lord over the north because he thought he could manipulate the North not knowing that these people are masters at politics and have had an organised society long before the British.. But we are less damaged than you or the North. We didnt cause the damage, you did. there is no better exampple of cutting your nose to spite your face than the ibo man. The difference between the SW and the SE is that you are the ones who use your own hands to cut your throats and then you start start crying blaming onlookers and looking for sympathy!!!

Stop this fake damage talk. It's a lie
If igbos are causing damage to Nigeria and your people as you claimed. Is it not better to cut them off and let them be on their own but instead you fight to keep them for more damage.

It's like fighting to keep Corona virus with you even though you know it's damaging your health

Those that fought to keep igbos in Nigeria are the fools if igbos are damaging

bigfish3k:
Stop this fake damage talk. It's a lie
If igbos are causing damage to Nigeria and your people as you claimed. Is it not better to cut them off and let them be on their own but instead you fight to keep them for more damage.

It's like fighting to keep Corona virus with you even though you know it's damaging your health

Those that fought to keep igbos in Nigeria are the fools if igbos are damaging

We cant cut them off because you enjoy rights as Nigerians and we as law abiding people dont have the votes in parliament to cut you off. By the way it was your people Nwabueze and Ironsi that removed the right to have a referendum from the constitution the British left us, in this same decree 34 . Are you slowly realising the folly of the ibos and the lasting damage you did. You are checkmated by the actions of your forefathers and you can ake all the money you want but you will always be second class junior partners in this our contraption called Nigeria. you can thank, Nzeogwu, Ironsi, Ojukwu, kanu and the other smaller actors. Your fate is of your own doing. So go to Abuja like Eze and lick ass to collect allocation from Oil that once belonged to you and get some crumbs so you can go and build mansions next to drainages that dont flow and Drive around in rolls royce convoys on bad roads.

Your forefathers thought they could dominate Nigeria, Zik and Daddy onyeama used to brag about Ibos being the chosen people and God giving you dominion over Nigeria, you removed the right to referendum once you staged a coup because you thought you would last forever. Now you are shouting referendum.....what a bunch of people!!!

You went into alliance with the North and the 1st thing you did was connive with the North to weaken the western region by carving out the Midwest region against our wishes to weaken our influence and now you are looking for allies? We know what the ibo man will do when he gets his hands on power, the North know and the west know......everybody knows thats why no one wants to see an Ibo man in Aso rock.


Just keep the SW out of it or any thought of alliances or us voting for you because we are not the ones that created your problems.

Even God will not make Igbo a President

isthatso:
maybe you should go and talk to the children of Ojukwu and ask them why their father refused to release food to the masses because it was good publicity for the biafra cause for pictures of starving children to be pasted over the pages of foreign newspapers.

in any event, na una start war, all is fair in love and war...you started an ill advised action based on greed action that led to war and you lost........deal with it. if you like go to UN court and complain.

Sophisticated? dont make me laugh!!!!

Aburi accord that you people failed to implement after five months caused the war not Ojukwu
You people still fired the first gun shot into Biafra
Hunger was your war tactics

There was asaba massacre of civilians including children, there was indiscriminate bombings

Biafrans killed only soldiers while you people were killing both soldiers and civilians which you are very proud of

isthatso:
We cant cut them off because you enjoy rights as Nigerians and we as law abiding people dont have the votes in parliament to cut you off. By the way it was your people Nwabueze and Ironsi that removed the right to have a referendum from the constitution the British left us, in this same decree 34 . Are you slowly realising the folly of the ibos and the lasting damage you did. You are checkmated by the actions of your forefathers and you can ake all the money you want but you will always be second class junior partners in this our contraption called Nigeria. you can thank, Nzeogwu, Ironsi, Ojukwu, kanu and the other smaller actors. Your fate is of your own doing. So go to Abuja like Eze and lick ass to collect allocation from Oil that once belonged to you and get some crumbs so you can go and build mansions next to drainages that dont flow and Drive around in rolls royce convoys on bad roads.

Your forefathers thought they could dominate Nigeria, Zik and Daddy onyeama used to brag about Ibos being the chosen people and God giving you dominion over Nigeria, you removed the right to referendum once you staged a coup because you thought you would last forever. Now you are shouting referendum.....what a bunch of people!!!

You went into alliance with the North and the 1st thing you did was connive with the North to weaken the western region by carving out the Midwest region against our wishes to weaken our influence and now you are looking for allies? We know what the ibo man will do when he gets his hands on power, the North know and the west know......everybody knows thats why no one wants to see an Ibo man in Aso rock.


Just keep the SW out of it or any thought of alliances or us voting for you because we are not the ones that created your problems.

So you can't cut something that is disturbing you off

If igbos were ruling as you said zik planned do you think we will have boko haram, Iswap, bandits, herdsmen etc

Do you think we would have been a shithole country?
Do you think we would be having epileptic power?

abu12:
he is saying the truth. IBO's are wicked to themselves and they don't accommodate other religion and tribes. most IBO's come to north, even after the civil war, and they make their money. they go back home with their money and come back with their younger brother's to make money also.

but, they can't allow a northerner to breathe in IBO land. how many northerner or southwest have you heard of or seen making it big in IBO land? if southeast is conducive for other tribe , those doing business there will invites their brother's to come. but the revised is the Case. they will rubb u off.

. Trash

bigfish3k:
Aburi accord that you people failed to implement after five months caused the war not Ojukwu
You people still fired the first gun shot into Biafra
Hunger was your war tactics

There was asaba massacre of civilians including children, there was indiscriminate bombings

Biafrans killed only soldiers while you people were killing both soldiers and civilians which you are very proud of

really? clearly you have not read your history and are relying on biased versions handed down by your ancestors. A winner will always glorify his victory and a loser will always explain away his defeat, if you are sincere which I nkow you arent, there are numerous independent accounts of the war and lists of Biafran attrocities and genocides against non combatant civilians of Biafra and Nigeria. its just that the civilian causualty of the Nigerian side was minimal in comparison to the millions of people who were sacrificed to a the greed of the ibo.


As far as you people, you have war with North wetin concern SW? na we dey fight una? abeg gerrout, you people are not serious

Dreambeat:
This selfish ass licker is obviously having senile dementia.Arthur Eze only cares about protecting his own business interest.He doesn’t care about the average Igbo man.One of the Igbo men that need to be weed out in order for the Igbo nation to progress collectively. I guess he thinks that he is immortal

. The man bu ezigbo onyeara....

Deep

cochexky:
I agree with you because obviously it's the Devil that Selects Nigerian President so it's only an Igbo man God will use his hand and select and after then you will see the difference between the work hands of God and the work hand of Devil.

Igbos remains the solution for this Country to Feel civilization and good life.

. Gbam

bigfish3k:
So you can't cut something that is disturbing you off

If igbos were ruling as you said zik planned do you think we will have boko haram, Iswap, bandits, herdsmen etc

Do you think we would have been a shithole country?
Do you think we would be having epileptic power?

We were well on our way to providing that for ourselves until the ibo man struck.
it does not matter who is in power, ibo, Yoruba, hausa, these things will elude Nigeria because of decree 34. Get that into your thick skull.

There are smart Northerners, youruba and Ibos that can run this country but nothing good can come out of the country because of the vestages of decree 34. This is the greates legacy of the ibo man sorjourn in power....an act to dominate and trap others, so an ibo man being president will not equate to development, it is just a pyschological for the ibos but considereing the damage they have inflicted on us all, I personally do not wish them to be rewarded by getting the presidency. As Eze who understands the high level power play has said, only an act of God can make an ibo man president because outside of ibos, nobody wants an ibo presidency


What Zik will do or not do what an ibo man will do or not do is academic, Zik didnt do when he was "president" and an Ibo man will never be president of Nigeria. our politics is even more tribal that it has ever been and nobody is voting for ibo except ibo.

Thats why they need Biafra country back

When you want to fight, you must make sure you have what it take to win. You dont have power but want to fight the one that is stronger than you(biafra and FGN) , never will you win, it's only God that can bring a president out of south-east unless there is a Nigeria renaissance. "OWO ENI KO TE EKU IDA ON BEERE IKU TO PA BABA E" ajekun iya ni eniyan maa je.

isthatso:
We were well on our way to providing that for ourselves until the ibo man struck.
it does not matter who is in power, ibo, Yoruba, hausa, these things will elude Nigeria because of decree 34. Get that into your thick skull.

There are smart Northerners, youruba and Ibos that can run this country but nothing good can come out of the country because of the vestages of decree 34. This is the greates legacy of the ibo man sorjourn in power....an act to dominate and trap others, so an ibo man being president will not equate to development, it is just a pyschological for the ibos but considereing the damage they have inflicted on us all, I personally do not wish them to be rewarded by getting the presidency. As Eze who understands the high level power play has said, only an act of God can make an ibo man president because outside of ibos, nobody wants an ibo presidency


What Zik will do or not do what an ibo man will do or not do is academic, Zik didnt do when he was "president" and an Ibo man will never be president of Nigeria. our politics is even more tribal that it has ever been and nobody is voting for ibo except ibo.

Nigeria will remain like this with all your rantings

The way forward is to restructure and reverse the laws like decree 34 that is drawing us back but you people don't want
The northerners will continue to gain from this kind of your ideology

bigfish3k:
Nigeria will remain like this with all your rantings

The way forward is to restructure and reverse the laws like decree 34 that is drawing us back but you people don't want
The northerners will continue to gain from this kind of your ideology

how can we restructure when your fathers removed the provision for restructuring? Do you think at all? you can shout restructuring or Biafra all you want but unless you have the votes or the military they will never happen. You people seem to delight in making noise about things that are not feasable and you never learn from past misadventures.


let me make it clear to you...restruxcturing will never happen because the North see no reason to restructure and they have more votes than the south (thanks to the ibos) there will also be no secession because they control the military...again thanks to the ibos.


So get used to it and wait till the country becomes so ungovernable that even the North are the ones clamouring for restructuring...that will only happen when the oil runs dry because unlike us in the south the Northern system is such that they dont have a problem with their people being poor so long as the elites have money to share. until the source of that money runs dry, their is no incentive to change the status quo you can make all the noise you want on nairaland or you can take your own advice and take to the streets. We will focus of making the best of the bad situation the ibos put all of us in knowing making noise for noise sake achieves nothing but high blood pressure.

sesan85:
It's disunity oga. Yes, every ethnic group has their own internal wranglings for sure, but it's prevalently toxic amongst Igbos, especially when you're seeking a country of your own. You can see it in the many communal clashes in Igboland every damned month, and even right here on Nairaland where Anambra and Enugu or Abia guys insult themselves. You can't even marry the so-called Osu people. The only time we see you guys United is when you feel "Igbos" are being attacked. Outside that, it's "Abakeleke tufia!" today and "Onye Wawa" tomorrow. We sabi una.

You talk of discrimination but you don't even know that Nupe from Niger state see himself as superior to Nupe from Kwara.

You talk of communal clash but you forget what happened in Zamfara because of gold mine.

You talk about insult and stuff like dt you forget that its even difficult for xtain to win gubernatorial election in states like Sokoto or Kastina even if he is Fulani.

You don't know what and why igbo's find it difficult to marry OSU and Ume simply because you don't know history of the igbo cultures.

As regards to country of there own let me take you to small history, the western igboland subscribed to kingship system (influence by bini kingdom), the northern igboland subscribed to priest king(Nri) whose spiritual influence stretched to Cameroon...the southern igboland subscribed to confederacy with Ibibio, ijaw and other ethnic group within the region.
The central igboland went with small chiefdom


Summary: If you don't know Igbo history, you try and ask questions

Ana akogheri
"They put you in oil business"
Does the oil belong to them? Tueh!

OkorobiaOwerre:
Ana akogheri
"They put you in oil business"
Does the oil belong to them? Tueh!

thanks to your greedy short sighted fathers, it now does......deal with it. I t certainly does not belong to Ibos

isthatso:
how can we restructure when your fathers removed the provision for restructuring? Do you think at all? you can shout restructuring or Biafra all you want but unless you have the votes or the military they will never happen. You people seem to delight in making noise about things that are not feasable and you never learn from past misadventures.


let me make it clear to you...restruxcturing will never happen because the North see no reason to restructure and they have more votes than the south (thanks to the ibos) there will also be no secession because they control the military...again thanks to the ibos.


So get used to it and wait till the country becomes so ungovernable that even the North are the ones clamouring for restructuring...that will only happen when the oil runs dry because unlike us in the south the Northern system is such that they dont have a problem with their people being poor so long as the elites have money to share. until the source of that money runs dry, their is no incentive to change the status quo you can make all the noise you want on nairaland or you can take your own advice and take to the streets. We will focus of making the best of the bad situation the ibos put all of us in knowing making noise for noise sake achieves nothing but high blood pressure.

Stop blaming the igbos alone the igbos have reversed theirs through aburi accord
You should blame the yorubas that fought against it

bigfish3k:
Stop blaming the igbos alone the igbos have reversed theirs through aburi accord
You should blame the yorubas that fought against it

You created a problem from a position of strength then offered your own solution from a position of weakness and blame people that refused to accept? are you for real? a weak man does not dictate. they called your bluff, thats why you are second class servant citizens today!

You people do not understand how to use power because greed, Ego and false pride is what rules your world.

What did yoruba fight against? abeg dont rope us into your problem. you had fight with North and wetin concern us?


1960, we said lets join hands you said no, you got to power and proceeded to conive with the North to carve out midwest region to decimate our region and influence. Now you had fight with North when you realised they are not as dumb as you thought they were and say we should help you .....for what? is it our fight? because you have shown you are dependable people, trustworthy allies or have our interests?

you open your mouth like a fool and talk of restructuring, we have been shouting restructuring since 1979, where were you then? you were enjoying power with Shagari. out of power for the 1st time in history and the whole world wont rest, Biafra today, restructuring tommorow. Awon omo ole!!!

isthatso:
You created a problem from a position of strength then offered your own solution from a position of weakness and blame people that refused to accept? are you for real? a weak man does not dictate. they called your bluff, thats why you are second class servant citizens today!

You people do not understand how to use power because Ego and false pride is what rules your world.

What did yoruba fight against? abeg dont rope us into your problem. you had fight with North and wetin concern us?

All of you supported a position called aburi accord after seeing the merits in it
You now came back to scatter it and you say its from a position of weakness
If you people supported it, it will not be weak.
But since you didn't support
You should have remained neutral and watch we and north fight, then you will know whether we are weak or not
The aburi you didn't support caused the problems
Somebody did a mistake as humans he realized and corrected his mistakes but you insisted on flowing with the errors and continued blaming us

They are not more than us if we are serious
17 southern states plus kwara, kogi and benue that thinks alike. We should be OK

We told them but they answered us with insult .we accommodated them they still insult us. Now one of the wise men among them has spoken yet what they like doing more is to masturbate on another mans maters which can not yield them and their region any positive result . they think noise and insult is the best approach to everything in their lives .

bigfish3k:
All of you supported a position called aburi accord after seeing the merits in it
You now came back to scatter it and you say its from a position of weakness
If you people supported it, it will not be weak.
But since you didn't support
You should have remained neutral and watch we and north fight, then you will know whether we are weak or not
The aburi you didn't support caused the problems
Somebody did a mistake as humans he realized and corrected his mistakes but you insisted on flowing with the errors and continued blaming us

They are not more than us if we are serious
17 southern states plus kwara, kogi and benue that thinks alike. We should be OK

please keep yoruba out of this o. Aburi accord is between gowon and Ojukwu...nothing concern yoruba inside. Gowons's govt was not a yoruba govt
fight your fight and leave us out of it. you are the ones that created this problem in the 1st place. if you did not stage a coup, the north would not have the power to amend the constitution that was bringing development to all regions. if you did not create decree 34 there would be no central govt and the right to a referendum would still be in the constitution. Everybody would be developing and owning his own resources at his own pace.

You are the ones that created problem, solve it yourself if you are not happy and leave us out of it. We are happy to wait till the country scatters.

History has shown with numerous examples that Nothing good has come out of any political action instigated by the Ibos it is always borne out of selfish interests ...........is it by force we must join you?

is it by force to partner with you? we say we no do...leave us alone and face your side!!!

next time think of the consequences before you embark of ill thought out power-grab schemes!!

isthatso:
fight your fight and leave us out of it. you are the ones that created this problem in the 1st place. if you did not stage a coup, the north would not have the power to amend the constitution that was bringing development to all regions. if you did not create decree 34 there would be no central govt and the right to a referendum would still be in the constitution. Everybody would be developing and owning his own resources at his own pace.

You are the ones that created problem, solve it yourself if you are not happy and leave us out of it. We are happy to wait till the country scatters.

Nothing good has EVER come out of any political adventure you people instigate...........is it by force we must join you?

You increased the problem by fighting the solution.
Why were you not neutral in the war.
Its now that you have spoilt things by fighting a solution that you want to remain neutral

BTW, Lebanon is advertising a Yoruba lady for sale on the internet and you keep on lying to yourselves that bad governance in Nigeria is affecting you little.
We made mistakes
You people made mistakes by fighting a solution
The two tribes are suffering most

Let's find a solution, it's 54yr already after decree 34.
No region in the south can do it alone except we want to wait for another 100 years.
Who knows how many more people that will be advertised by then

bigfish3k:
You increased the problem by fighting the solution.
Why were you not neutral in the war.
Its now that you have spoilt things by fighting a solution that you want to remain neutral

BTW, Lebanon is advertising a Yoruba lady for sale on the internet and you keep on lying to yourselves that bad governance in Nigeria is affecting you little.
We made mistakes
You people made mistakes by fighting a solution
The two tribes are suffering most

Let's find a solution, it's 54yr already after decree 34.
No region in the south can do it alone except we want to wait for another 100 years.
Who knows how many more people that will be advertised by then

How thick are you? you create a problem without my blessing and then say... take the solution.... that you did not consult me on either. Can you not see your problem? Why must everything be on your terms? I keep telling you the problem with the ibo man is he must have his way thats why you cant live peacefully with them.

I have told you the solution, we will wait till Nigeria collapses (east and North are finished) it's SW and SS keeping Nigeria together and when that happens and everybody goes his own way like Sudan we will kick everybody out and start afresh, if you dont like that solution, feel free to engineer your own but dont expect us to help you. One thing i do know you can never trust a political solution with an ibo.

isthatso:
dream on, Some of you who keep talking of Ibo presidency really need to start to read about the political history of Nigeria. Anybody who understands Nigeria's political history will know ibo will NEVER be president in Nigeria. They didnt see Ibo when they made Jonathan a minority president? why do you think that is? The same ibo they refuse to head strategic military agencies are the ones they will alow to be commander in chief? use your heads!!! Ibos can make all the money they want but presidency is a closed door!

Bros leave that thing, that is a complete lie and u people know it.
Well if telling urselves that by saying will make u all sleep well at night then..continue.

Need I remind u that the former head of state of late. Gen Aguiyi-Ironsi's son was a former minister of defense under Obj administration.
Gen.Ihejirika was chief of army staff, Air vice marshal Paul Dike was chief of air staff & chief of defense staff under GEJ before they retired.
Mr.Mike Okiro was an IGP and so on.
Since the end of the civil war Igbos have steadily risen to prominent security positions at one time or d other.
During the military (dominated by Northerns) Igbo sons&daughter have been rising steadily. During that same military period an Igbo man has been the DG of SSS now DSS . since democracy an Igbo woman has become comptroller general of Nig. Immigration service.
Generals&security chiefs of Igbo extraction have in one time or the other commanded major security positions in this country.

Political wise Igbos have been rising steadily even to become a Vice-president(Alex Ekwueme)& other high& sensitive ministerial positions.
Even economically, socially&everyother wise Igbos r making progress& will continue to.

The only post left is that of President, which in no distant time will he achieved.. Time happens to everything under the sun&when its time everything will align to make it happen and nothing will stop it.

Its not by wishing Igbos failure, it will definitely happen.
The North knows this& have even/ will be more willing to negotiate when the time is set and
South south region is not a problem either.
At the end, Nigeria's unity&progress with justice is all that is paramount

So enjoy ur fun while it lasts bcus nothing lasts forever. U can ask the French or Chinese that lost everything during worldwar 2& was librated by the Allied forces how they got to were they are now to even become among the world powers.
No persons/people can be held down forever.. U people can deny it all you want but the truth is the truth&will always prevail no matter the obstacles.

As for if other regions trust Igbos... The answer is yes&time will reveal more.

isthatso:
How thick are you? you create a problem without my blessing and then say... take the solution.... that you did not consult me on either. Can you not see your problem? Why must everything be on your terms? I keep telling you the problem with the ibo man is he must have his way thats why you cant live peacefully with them.

I have told you the solution, we will wait till Nigeria collapses (east and North are finished) it's SW and SS keeping Nigeria together and when that happens and everybody goes his own way like Sudan we will kick everybody out and start afresh, if you dont like that solution, feel free to engineer your own but dont expect us to help you. One thing i do know you can never trust a political solution with an ibo.

In aburi
Ghana president and his entourage
Gowon
Yoruba vice president
All the governor's including one for SW and another Yoruba for Lagos were there including others. All agreed and signed to this solution as the best so as to avert war.
How else do you want them to include you in the solution
You were consulted to the solutions, you accepted and later reneged and followed the way of decree 34.
You had options of following decree 34 or aburi accord but you chose decree 34.

Solution is coming together again to amend our mistakes. We cannot leave our destiny to fate as you have advocated

vanunu:
Then they put me in oil business. Slave....

....bullshit!!!.... As a slave em worth billions.... And you as a master hwfa?.....kee Ife neme?

bigfish3k:
In aburi
Ghana president and his entourage
Gowon
Yoruba vice president
All the governor's including one for SW and another Yoruba for Lagos were there including others. All agreed and signed to this solution as the best so as to avert war.
How else do you want them to include you in the solution
You were consulted to the solutions, you accepted and later reneged and followed the way of decree 34.
You had options of following decree 34 or aburi accord but you chose decree 34.

Solution is coming together again to amend our mistakes. We cannot leave our destiny to fate as you have advocated

We wish you well in your "solution" but we are wiser now!!! You need us more than we need you. we are not getting entangled with you people once this country scatters.

Dikebuka:
You talk of discrimination but you don't even know that Nupe from Niger state see himself as superior to Nupe from Kwara.

You talk of communal clash but you forget what happened in Zamfara because of gold mine.

You talk about insult and stuff like dt you forget that its even difficult for xtain to win gubernatorial election in states like Sokoto or Kastina even if he is Fulani.

You don't know what and why igbo's find it difficult to marry OSU and Ume simply because you don't know history of the igbo cultures.

As regards to country of there own let me take you to small history, the western igboland subscribed to kingship system (influence by bini kingdom), the northern igboland subscribed to priest king(Nri) whose spiritual influence stretched to Cameroon...the southern igboland subscribed to confederacy with Ibibio, ijaw and other ethnic group within the region.
The central igboland went with small chiefdom


Summary: If you don't know Igbo history, you try and ask questions

"You don't know what and why igbo's find it difficult to marry OSU and Ume simply because you don't know history of the igbo cultures."
Oga save me your long, boring rambling. I don't give a hoot about the reason Igbos don't marry Osu or Ume, who are your fellow Igbos by the way. Osu culture is discriminatory and archaic, end of. No excuses.

"You talk about insult and stuff like dt you forget that its even difficult for xtain to win gubernatorial election in states like Sokoto or Kastina even if he is Fulani." Can an Igbo Muslim become a Governor in Igboland? Hello no!
Heck, it's even very difficult for an Anglican to be a Governor in Anambra State, and that's even between Igbo Christians o. Truth hurts oga.