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Re: Most Christians Do Not Understand What The Word "SOUL" Means??? by Emusan(m): 9:49am On Jul 24, 2020
DappaD:
Young man, are you going to answer my questions or not? Why are you shifting goalposts ?
Old man, I think my questions are still within the frame of your question.
Re: Most Christians Do Not Understand What The Word "SOUL" Means??? by DappaD: 9:51am On Jul 24, 2020
Emusan spare me all your hogwash and answer this questions.

DappaD:
This is what I want to hear from you.

Kindly EXPLAIN in full detail what your “Holy Ghost” has explained Matthew 10:28 and 1Thessalonians 5:23 to mean. And then I'll explain to you the actual truth! smiley
C'mon let's see what you got
DappaD:
Emusan


Do humans beings exist as a trinity?
Let everybody on this thread see what you're made of. undecided
Re: Most Christians Do Not Understand What The Word "SOUL" Means??? by Emusan(m): 9:54am On Jul 24, 2020
DappaD:
Emusan spare me all your hogwash and answer this these questions.
Firstly, stop spamming my mention! You can express yourself in one post instead of quoting me repeatedly.

Secondly, you called it hogwash but I need to know where you GOT YOUR ACTUAL TRUTH FROM.

Lastly, your questions will be addressed if you just state your position first.
Re: Most Christians Do Not Understand What The Word "SOUL" Means??? by DappaD:
Emusan you are looking for my trouble o undecided

Emusan:
Let's start by you telling us who REVEALED/TAUGHT/GOTTEN your ACTUAL TRUTH from.

-From your own understanding?
-From comparing scripture with scripture?
-Through the inspiration of the Holy Ghost?
-From Scholarly understanding of both Hebrew and Greek Text?
-From what your own organization only says?
Emusan : From your own understanding?

DappaD : Only an unwise person would rely on his own understanding. (Proverbs 3:5, 28:26)
Understanding and interpretation of scriptures come from Jehovah alone. (Genesis 40:8, 2Peter 1:20,21)




Emusan : From comparing scripture with scripture?

DappaD : Ah yes, the ol' reliable. That's how to get the true meaning/understanding of the scriptures coupled with God's holy spirit.





Emusan : Through the inspiration of the Holy Ghost ?

DappaD : True Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses) do not believe in a mythical “Holy Ghost” as being part of a mythical godhead, sorry doghead grin . Rather, we believe God's holy spirit to be the impersonal active force which God uses to accomplish his will — such as creating the heavens and the earth (Genesis 1:3, Psalm 33:6) and inspiring faithful men of old to write the Bible. (2Peter 1:20,21)




Emusan : From Scholarly understanding of both Hebrew and Greek Text?

DappaD : Jehovah's Witnesses always engage in an in-depth study of God's word. So that the scriptures can help interprete the meaning of other scriptures.




Emusan : From what your own organization only says?

DappaD : The “faithful and discreet slave” who make up the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses are our fellow brothers who have been assigned by Jesus to provide spiritual food to his domestics(that is, we Jehovah's Witnesses) (Matthew 24:45)
So we are going to take in that spiritual food because Jesus who is the head of the organization has assigned them to do so. (1Corinthians 11:3)
In order that there may be unity and oneness of mind in the only organization of true Christians. (1Corinthians 1:10, Ephesians 4:3, Philippians 2:2) smiley
Re: Most Christians Do Not Understand What The Word "SOUL" Means??? by DappaD: 10:15am On Jul 24, 2020
Emusan:
Firstly, stop spamming my mention! You can express yourself in one post instead of quoting me repeatedly.

Secondly, you called it hogwash but I need to know where you GOT YOUR ACTUAL TRUTH FROM.

Lastly, your questions will be addressed if you just state your position first.
Emusan, Emusan, Emusan

How many times did I call you? undecided
Are you going to answer my questions or NOT?
Re: Most Christians Do Not Understand What The Word "SOUL" Means??? by DappaD: 10:19am On Jul 24, 2020
Emusan:
Firstly, stop spamming my mention! You can express yourself in one post instead of quoting me repeatedly.

Secondly, you called it hogwash but I need to know where you GOT YOUR ACTUAL TRUTH FROM.

Lastly, your questions will be addressed if you just state your position first.
Emusan undecided

Quick to spot grammar faults, are you?
Last time I remember I'm not a perfect human being, yet! smiley James 3:2
Re: Most Christians Do Not Understand What The Word "SOUL" Means??? by cornelboy(op): 10:48am On Jul 24, 2020
shadeyinka:
John 20:17
Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”

You mean Lazarus was a wicked person?
you have no point here. I mean does a wicked man's soul goes to Godhuh
Re: Most Christians Do Not Understand What The Word "SOUL" Means??? by Nobody: 10:52am On Jul 24, 2020
Emusan:
Firstly, stop spamming my mention! You can express yourself in one post instead of quoting me repeatedly.

Secondly, you called it hogwash but I need to know where you GOT YOUR ACTUAL TRUTH FROM.

Lastly, your questions will be addressed if you just state your position first.
Your arguments will become valid once you're able to point to the group that's practicing this your TRINITY ideology successfully and their achievements as stated in God's word! Galatians 5:22-23

People often advertise goods on the media, i will use a cough medicine as example. You can't just expect right thinking persons to believe in your preferred cough medicine when you yourself are coughing incessantly. Please point to an organized group that's practicing what you're saying so that everyone can see how effective your preferred doctrines is! James 2:18-26 smiley
Re: Most Christians Do Not Understand What The Word "SOUL" Means??? by Emusan(m): 12:05pm On Jul 24, 2020
For the last time, stop spamming my mention, you don't need to repeat my moniker many times before you pass your message across by doing so, it shows you're looking for a way to chicken out.

DappaD:
Emusan you are looking for my trouble o undecided
So you have trouble in the first placehuh



Emusan : From your own understanding?

DappaD : Only an unwise person would rely on his own understanding. (Proverbs 3:5, 28:26)
Understanding and interpretation of scriptures come from Jehovah alone. (Genesis 40:8, 2Peter 1:20,21)




Emusan : From comparing scripture with scripture?

DappaD : Ah yes, the ol' reliable. That's how to get the true meaning/understanding of the scriptures coupled with God's holy spirit.





Emusan : Through the inspiration of the Holy Ghost ?

DappaD : True Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses) do not believe in a mythical “Holy Ghost” as being part of a mythical godhead, sorry doghead grin . Rather, we believe God's holy spirit to be the impersonal active force which God uses to accomplish his will — such as creating the heavens and the earth (Genesis 1:3, Psalm 33:6) and inspiring faithful men of old to write the Bible. (2Peter 1:20,21)




Emusan : From Scholarly understanding of both Hebrew and Greek Text?

DappaD : Jehovah's Witnesses always engage in an in-depth study of God's word. So that the scriptures can help interprete the meaning of other scriptures.




Emusan : From what your own organization only says?

DappaD : The “faithful and discreet slave” who make up the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses are our fellow brothers who have been assigned by Jesus to provide spiritual food to his domestics(that is, we Jehovah's Witnesses) (Matthew 24:45)
So we are going to take in that spiritual food because Jesus who is the head of the organization has assigned them to do so. (1Corinthians 11:3)
In order that there may be unity and oneness of mind in the only organization of true Christians. (1Corinthians 1:10, Ephesians 4:3, Philippians 2:2) smiley
Nobody asked you all these jargons

Just tell us from what I listed above how you GOT your ACTUAL TRUTH first.

Very simple thing to do but as usual always behaving like a robot, you must spew thrashes to deviate from the main point.
Re: Most Christians Do Not Understand What The Word "SOUL" Means??? by Emusan(m): 12:10pm On Jul 24, 2020
cornelboy:
you have no point here. I mean does a wicked man's soul goes to Godhuh
Didn't you proof that wicked man's spirit/breath of life goes to God by supporting Eccl 12:7?

But this is the fact!

According to Ecclesiastes 12:7 man's spirit goes to God whether righteous or wicked but it's God who'll determine where sure spirit will spend the eternity.

Jesus and His apostles confirmed that God will send the wicked to eternal fire while the righteous to everlasting life.
Re: Most Christians Do Not Understand What The Word "SOUL" Means??? by DappaD:
Emusan:
For the last time, stop spamming my mention, you don't need to repeat my moniker many times before you pass your message across by doing so, it shows you're looking for a way to chicken out.



So you have trouble in the first placehuh
Oga Emusan all these your childish ranting is unwarranted.

Emusan:
Nobody asked you all these jargons
So you call what you asked me ‘jargons’ grin Very good
But you did ask me some questions, see them below.

Emusan:
Let's start by you telling us who REVEALED/TAUGHT/GOTTEN your ACTUAL TRUTH from.

-From your own understanding?
-From comparing scripture with scripture?
-Through the inspiration of the Holy Ghost?
-From Scholarly understanding of both Hebrew and Greek Text?
-From what your own organization only says?
You asked me a total of 5 BOLD QUESTIONS of which I gave answers to ALL.

Now I asked you to explain something instead you're telling me trash. Remember you were the one who mentioned me first on this thread. So please don't mention me again unless you're unfortunate.
Re: Most Christians Do Not Understand What The Word "SOUL" Means??? by Nobody: 12:39pm On Jul 24, 2020
Emusan:
Didn't you proof that wicked man's spirit/breath of life goes to God by supporting Eccl 12:7?
The spirit in the context is just a life force that's sustaining our breath Sir, it has nothing to do with whether the person is good or evil, that's why God's word said even beasts (animals) also have this spirit! Ecclesiastes 3:19-20 cheesy


But this is the fact!
According to Ecclesiastes 12:7 man's spirit goes to God whether righteous or wicked but it's God who'll determine where sure spirit will spend the eternity.
@bolded is just like NEPA electric supply, it's the same thing activating all our electrical home appliances, so God has no record for this life force because it's nothing to do with whatever the user does! cheesy


Jesus and His apostles confirmed that God will send the wicked to eternal fire while the righteous to everlasting life.
It's you guys that failed to grasp the meaning of God's word Sir, Adam died completely and there's nothing like eternal fire after the death of this first and foremost wicked man! wink
Re: Most Christians Do Not Understand What The Word "SOUL" Means??? by cornelboy(op): 12:45pm On Jul 24, 2020
Emusan:
Didn't you proof that wicked man's spirit/breath of life goes to God by supporting Eccl 12:7?

But this is the fact!

According to Ecclesiastes 12:7 man's spirit goes to God whether righteous or wicked but it's God who'll determine where sure spirit will spend the eternity.

Jesus and His apostles confirmed that God will send the wicked to eternal fire while the righteous to everlasting life.
No, I was asking cos of her believe about soul grin grin
Re: Most Christians Do Not Understand What The Word "SOUL" Means??? by Emusan(m): 4:46pm On Jul 24, 2020
DappaD:
Oga Emusan all these your childish ranting is unwarranted.
It's a child who keeps shouting his/her elder's name now and there....

Like I said, stop spamming my mention! You don't need to repeat my moniker everytime before you pass your message across.

So you call what you asked me ‘jargons’ grin Very good
But you did ask me some questions, see them below.
And intelligent person should simply understand my point up there!

You asked me a total of 5 BOLD QUESTIONS of which I gave answers to ALL.
Since you lack simple comprehension and not that intelligent!

I only want to know where you GOT your ACTUAL TRUTH from first by listing FIVE OPTIONS you can choose from since you claim you have the ACTUAL TRUTH.

Now I asked you to explain something instead you're telling me trash. Remember you were the one who mentioned me first on this thread. So please don't mention me again unless you're unfortunate.
Your frustration and anger have never started, you'll soon cry!
Re: Most Christians Do Not Understand What The Word "SOUL" Means??? by Emusan(m): 4:49pm On Jul 24, 2020
cornelboy:
No, I was asking cos of her believe about soul grin grin
So it's only righteous people SPIRITS that go to God according to Ecclesiastes 12:7, right?

Or what is your position?
Re: Most Christians Do Not Understand What The Word "SOUL" Means??? by DappaD: 5:47pm On Jul 24, 2020
Emusan:
It's a child who keeps shouting his/her elder's name now and there....

Like I said, stop spamming my mention! You don't need to repeat my moniker everytime before you pass your message across.



And intelligent person should simply understand my point up there!



Since you lack simple comprehension and not that intelligent!

I only want to know where you GOT your ACTUAL TRUTH from first by listing FIVE OPTIONS you can choose from since you claim you have the ACTUAL TRUTH.



Your frustration and anger have never started, you'll soon cry!
You're actually making a big deal out of nothing.
undecided

Emusan undecided Emusan undecided Emusan undecided
Shey I called you three times. Did the sky fall?

Emusan I beg you answer my questions and stop showcasing your ignorance on this thread! cheesy
Re: Most Christians Do Not Understand What The Word "SOUL" Means??? by Nobody: 6:45pm On Jul 24, 2020
Emusan:
So it's only righteous people SPIRITS that go to God according to Ecclesiastes 12:7, right?

Or what is your position?
He's been studying with Jehovah's Witnesses so he knows that it's rebelliousness that makes you have a different opinion on scriptural Truth.

The spirit that returns to God is just the force actuating our breath so whether you're good or evil, the power to restore that force rests in God's hand, that's why the Ecclesiastes says it returns to God so to speak! wink
Re: Most Christians Do Not Understand What The Word "SOUL" Means??? by Nobody: 6:53pm On Jul 24, 2020
DappaD:
You're actually making a big deal out of nothing.
undecided

Emusan undecided Emusan undecided Emusan undecided
Shey I called you three times. Did the sky fall?

Emusan I beg you answer my questions and stop showcasing your ignorance on this thread! cheesy
His problem is not about your question, what makes him really bitter is the oneness in thought JWs have globally.
So he's trying to find if JWs also have different opinions on scriptural Truth the way they do in their Churches.
Satan hates oneness in thought so all his agents whether human or spirit agitates whenever they come across someone who doesn't subscribe to their rebellious traits! smiley
Re: Most Christians Do Not Understand What The Word "SOUL" Means??? by Emusan(m): 8:38pm On Jul 24, 2020
DappaD:
You're actually making a big deal out of nothing.
undecided
That should be your trademark since you lack simple comprehension.

Emusan undecided Emusan undecided Emusan undecided
Shey I called you three times. Did the sky fall?]/quote]

Where did I say if you call me, the sky will fall?

You can see how you keep exposing your ignorance.

I simply told you stop spamming my mention which is just unreasonable thing to do since you can just quote my post and make your point without repeatedly write my moniker that shows you're just a nuisance cyberspace.

[quote]Emusan I beg you answer my questions and stop showcasing your ignorance on this thread! cheesy
Your lack of simple comprehension and intelligent have been exposed here, which leads to this long talk when you were simply asked to choose one option but as a robot that your organization has made you to become, you started typing jargons when no one asked you that.

So simply choose your option and stop showcasing your deluded mind.
Re: Most Christians Do Not Understand What The Word "SOUL" Means??? by Nobody: 8:50pm On Jul 24, 2020
@DappaD!

My brother, can you now see where the spirit of aggression emanates?

Emusan is not interested in the teachings that results in Unity and Peace, what's paining him is the oneness that binds people from different races under one umbrella as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! Romans 15:5-6; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3 Philippians 2:2

Note his derogatory mention of Organization as if God's servants shouldn't be organized in doing things orderly! John 17:20-23 wink
Re: Most Christians Do Not Understand What The Word "SOUL" Means??? by DappaD: 11:17pm On Jul 24, 2020
Maximus69:
@DappaD!

My brother, can you now see where the spirit of aggression emanates?

Emusan is not interested in the teachings that results in Unity and Peace, what's paining him is the oneness that binds people from different races under one umbrella as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! Romans 15:5-6; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3 Philippians 2:2

Note his derogatory mention of Organization as if God's servants shouldn't be organized in doing things orderly! John 17:20-23 wink
Apparently, Emusan is one of those misinformed churchgoers as clearly shown grin


Emusan knowingly committed the ad hominem fallacy by calling me a ‘robot’ just because I have the same line of thought with nearly 9million people worldwide who have all said NO to War, World Politics and are experiencing the measure of Jehovah's spirit in their midst. (Isaiah 2:4, John 17:16, 18:36, Galatians 5:22,23) cheesy cheesy
Re: Most Christians Do Not Understand What The Word "SOUL" Means??? by Nobody: 11:21pm On Jul 24, 2020
DappaD:
Apparently, Emusan is one of those misinformed churchgoers as clearly shown grin


Emusan knowingly committed the ad hominem fallacy by calling me a ‘robot’ just because I have the same line of thought with nearly 9million people worldwide who have all said NO to War, World Politics and are experiencing the measure of Jehovah's spirit in their midst. cheesy
He said he lives in the north amidst intolerant religionsists, so he can fight for Jesus! cheesy
Re: Most Christians Do Not Understand What The Word "SOUL" Means??? by DappaD: 11:28pm On Jul 24, 2020
Maximus69:
He said he lives in the north amidst intolerant religionsists, so he can fight for Jesus! cheesy
Their type dey market grin
Re: Most Christians Do Not Understand What The Word "SOUL" Means??? by Nobody: 6:48am On Jul 25, 2020
DappaD:
Their type dey market grin
Satan has blurred their spiritual vision! 2Corinthians 4:4

They are calling Jesus "Lord" but can't form one group under which all eyes can see that they're obediently following the same Lord {Luke 6:46 compare to Mark 7:6-7} there is no code of conduct binding them as lawful worshipers! 7:21-23

You'll notice how each just want to explain his personal isolated stand "na so me i dey worship my own Jesus, make you no come tell me how to worship my Jesus" but whenever they see Jehovah's Witnesses globally faithful under the same arrangement, they call us all sort of names like cult, robots, zombies and so on.

What pains them most is the way we welcome one another hospitably throughout the earth like one family, so because their rebellious Trinity has failed to make the same kind of love work in their midst, they say "Jehovah's Witnesses only love themselves" i just laugh at their low IQ each time they say that because Jesus himself confirmed that everyone will notice how love permeates his Organization! John 13:34-35 smiley
Re: Most Christians Do Not Understand What The Word "SOUL" Means??? by DappaD: 9:37am On Jul 25, 2020
Maximus69:
Satan has blurred their spiritual vision! 2Corinthians 4:4

They are calling Jesus "Lord" but can't form one group under which all eyes can see that they're obediently following the same Lord {Luke 6:46 compare to Mark 7:6-7} there is no code of conduct binding them as lawful worshipers! 7:21-23

You'll notice how each just want to explain his personal isolated stand "na so me i dey worship my own Jesus, make you no come tell me how to worship my Jesus" but whenever they see Jehovah's Witnesses globally faithful under the same arrangement, they call us all sort of names like cult, robots, zombies and so on.

What pains them most is the way we welcome one another hospitably throughout the earth like one family, so because their rebellious Trinity has failed to make the same kind of love work in their midst, they say "Jehovah's Witnesses only love themselves" i just laugh at their low IQ each time they say that because Jesus himself confirmed that everyone will notice how love permeates his Organization! John 13:34-35 smiley
@italicized words, I cannot count how many times colleagues have told me this. lipsrsealed
They don't know we're fulfilling the words of Jesus at John 13:34,35 grin
Re: Most Christians Do Not Understand What The Word "SOUL" Means??? by Nobody: 10:19am On Jul 25, 2020
DappaD:
@italicized words, I cannot count how many times colleagues have told me this. lipsrsealed
They don't know we're fulfilling the words of Jesus at John 13:34,35 grin
That's why each time i think of those days you guys kept coming to disturb me, i always pray in my heart saying "Jehovah's Witnesses, may God bless you people for locating me!" smiley
Re: Most Christians Do Not Understand What The Word "SOUL" Means??? by Kobojunkie: 7:11am On Jul 28, 2020
Maximus69:
Well that's what over 9,000,000 members of an organization believes today, with this they say the body at death return to dust {Genesis 3:19} and the power actuating the breath returns to the one who gave it 'God' {Ecclesiastes 12:7} they taught me that it's the training, exposure and intentions that makes up a person's Character.
The Truth of God is a game of numbers to you then? Interesting!
Re: Most Christians Do Not Understand What The Word "SOUL" Means??? by Nobody: 7:37am On Jul 28, 2020
Kobojunkie:
The Truth of God is a game of numbers to you then? Interesting!
It's called documenting! Act 2:41, 4:4, 5:14 wink
Re: Most Christians Do Not Understand What The Word "SOUL" Means??? by Kobojunkie: 8:37am On Jul 28, 2020
Maximus69:
It's called documenting! Act 2:41, 4:4, 5:14 wink
It is called a number's game
Re: Most Christians Do Not Understand What The Word "SOUL" Means??? by DappaD: 8:44am On Jul 28, 2020
Kobojunkie:
The Truth of God is a game of numbers to you then? Interesting!
How convenient to shift from the topic of discussion. cheesy
Re: Most Christians Do Not Understand What The Word "SOUL" Means??? by Nobody: 8:49am On Jul 28, 2020
Kobojunkie:
It is called a number's game
Well it's the culture first century Christians learnt from their founder! Matthew 15:38; John 6:10 wink
Re: Most Christians Do Not Understand What The Word "SOUL" Means??? by Kobojunkie: 8:51am On Jul 28, 2020
Maximus69:
Well it's the culture first century Christians learnt from their founder! Matthew 15:38; John 6:10 wink
What you posited has absolutely nothing to do with the first Christians or Jesus Christ. Suggesting that Jesus Christ shows how little you understand of God's truth
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