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Let me stop here I know you are in pain.

These are just few...stupid human being

rottennaija:
Your organisation is not God's organisation. Its that simple. That was why I left. What you have is watchtower corporation. Its a big business masquerading as religion to ensure continuous supply of money and new recruit.

Omo soji!

Satan has capitalized on your rebellious traits to lead you to destruction!

Only that so called corporation has successfully gathered people from all the different races on planet earth, made them to surrender all their weapons and vowed never to take up weapons against!

Well for your information, that's what the world government is spending billions of dollars yearly to achieve, yet after establishing a political system that brought all of them together, their followers still carry weapons and continue to kill one another. But that so called corporation made all it's adherents destroy anything called weapon, or reasons to make use of weapons! Micah 4:3

Acrobatics01:
Thanks for pointing out lie.

1 Peter 3:18 summarises what we believe in
"Because Christ also suffered for sins once, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God; being put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit;" (ASV)


Let's trash more

OH what a pity!. So that's what that passage means to you, right?. What a shame!.

Jesus was crucified as a human being in the flesh by men. But who raised him up, was it humans or God, please don't tell me angels, because angels can't give life. So who did?. Oh, did you enter the grave to shake him up from death or did the disciples?. What power and force raised him from dead.. It is the Spirit of God!.

Stop picking verses and twisting them to suit your false gospel decieving others and being decieved yourselves.

Now explain the verse below for others to see

Note: for better understanding of the context and flow, read from the beginning of the chapter.


John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

If Jesus rose as a ghost or spirit, why did he have to say this?. Since when did humans begin to touch spirits with their bare hands?.

20:20 And when he had so said, he shewed unto them his hands and his side. Then were the disciples glad, when they saw the LORD.

So you mean that the injuries inflicted on Jesus's physical body permeated onto his spirit body, and this spirit body with the injuries can be seen with physical eyes like the disciples did?, please tell me more, wonders shall never end!.

20:25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the LORD. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.


Thomas made this statement to signify that its impossible for a spirit body to so display the attributes his colleagues where telling him. He gave conditions which must be met to prove that it was indeed a physical body. Was his condition met?.

20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

Jesus himself allowed them to touch and feel him. He even ate bread and fish with his disciples after he resurrected. Does Spirits and ghosts eat human food?. So what happened?.


With all these, do you think we are still talking about the same Jesus?. I don't think so. If you do not believe in the physical resurrection of Jesus Christ, you're not witnesses of him nor do you believe in him, and you can't be called Christians either because you demean the person OF Jesus christ.

The problem you people have is that you try to explain a spiritual book using mere human knowledge as if it's a literature book. No man can understand the Bible well without the help of the Holy Spirit who inspired it, yet you don't belive in him, so what are you doing?.

1 Corinthians 2:14 summarizes it.

A natural man cannot receive the things of the Spirit of God for they are foolishness unto him neither can he know them because they're spiritually discerned.

Going by the verse above, how can you now discern the word of God inspired by the Holy Spirit when you don't believe in him or his existence?, rather, you choose fallible men to be your guide.

Repent and be saved. Jesus Christ is the way to God, non other way. The Holy Spirit alone is the revealer of God's Word no one else!.

Maximus69:
Omo soji!

Satan has capitalized on your rebellious traits to lead you to destruction!

Only that so called corporation has successfully gathered people from all the different races on planet earth, made them to surrender all their weapons and vowed never to take up weapons against!

Well for your information, that's what the world government is spending billions of dollars yearly to achieve, yet after establishing a political system that brought all of them together, their followers still carry weapons and continue to kill one another. But that so called corporation made all it's adherents destroy anything called weapon, or reasons to make use of weapons! Micah 4:3

Still, the false religion deny Jesus mediatorship to millions of its follower. They deny them the opportunity of being sons of God, of being joint heirs with Jesus. They fornicated with what they called the disgusting thing of the nation, the United Nation. They slept, wined and dined with the United Nations for 10 good years and when they were exposed, they quickly wore their cloth and ran, then lied about it till today. They continue to falsely prophecy in the name of Jehovah. But as a false prophet, they prophecies have a 100% rate of failure. None came true and none ever will.

They continue to bill and tithe their members in so many ways. Sell of kingdom halls for profit where members laboured to pay and build. They make their members to rent assembly halls they contributed money for and built with their sweat. They deceived their members to collect loans to build kingdom halls, repair the loans and forcefully take ownership of these halls and sell them for profits.

They invest in companies that produce tobacco, that build war equipment, stocks and bonds, real estates while telling members to live a simple life. Heck, even while they were encouraging members to prepared for their failed and disgrace 1975 end of the world, they were busy buying real estates while members where busy selling off properties, put of medical treatments etc for their false prophecies.

Maximus69, all of deceived religious members, JWs are the most deceived and you happen to be happily deceived.

NB: I don't speak yoruba.

Thetruthalways:
These are just few...stupid human being

I know you had avoided the other time I asked you. I'm asking you again, these news about these religious groups you are posting, do you believe them to be true?

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rottennaija:
I know you had avoided the other time I asked you. I'm asking you again, these news about these religious groups you are posting, do you believe them to be true?

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Olabenjamen22
Achorladey

Hahaha i can sew you are mentioning other bigots to come and engage me...well i am very ready to engage them as well...
Look at the useless question you were asking me...so when you were posting yours did you believe them before posting?
Posting rubbish committed by Yoruba Alfas...
Owk this is the answer to your stupid question, yes i believed all of them an even more, how will BBC news say such about the vatican?
The pope would have sued them but rather the pope claimed investigations will be carried out...as he clearly know all what happening there...
They don't marry but molest small virgin girls..engaging in homosexuality up and down...
Shame on you and your uselss religion

rottennaija:
I know you had avoided the other time I asked you. I'm asking you again, these news about these religious groups you are posting, do you believe them to be true?

www.nairaland.com/attachments/12010497_screenshot20200727194227_jpeg4c6d22e5973b7135347e43d99ab1a208

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Olabenjamen22
Achorladey

When a Muslim is involved in shoot out, hypocrites like you will be quick to label that person as terrorist, but when a Christian does same you will start hearing bastards like you saying he has mental issues, the type of game he plays affects him blah blah blah...
A Christian terrorist killed people in a gay club in US...people were happy as they were gays, but down here is what the pope said
Ask me whether this is true again if i slap you from here ehn...
Source is BBC news

All you just need is calm down and listen to other people opinions on the matter!

Jesus didn't resurrect with flesh, but if you're not willing to listen it's OK, go and continue with your FAITH!

God's word said flesh and blood can't inherit the kingdom of God {1Corinthians 15:50} but Jesus went to heaven with the that visible fleshy body.

God's word said during the resurrection it is sown physically and resurrected spiritually {1Corinthians 15:44} it is sown corruptible but raised incorruptible {1Corinthians 15:50} Jesus live with his disciples for many years but after his resurrection they began seeing different bodies hardly recognisable! John 20:15-16; Luke 24:15-16

So if some Bible scholars now said Jesus was never resurrected with his physical body, that doesn't mean they don't believe in his resurrection. What they're saying is exactly what Jesus himself said about the resurrection of those who will go to heaven, Jesus said they're not expected to continue with physical bodies because they will become like angels in heaven {Luke 20:34-36}
So why did he have to appear in a material body?

Know first of all that his followers have to go and preach about the resurrection from the death in Jesus name, so that can't make any sense if they haven't been convinced that Jesus himself is now alive (in the spirit).
He said he will be with them till the end {Matthew 28:20} so how can they be sure of this if they don't see him again after his death?

Before then, angels used materialised bodies in ancient times have done all what Jesus did after his resurrection. They ate physical food {Genesis 18:8} they can hold people {Genesis 19:16} they can appear and disappear!
So we can say Jesus needed the materialised body to instill in the minds of his followers who at that time still had little faith that he is now alive, but from all indication Jesus only materialised bodies that will sooth each point he wanted to prove. That's why he asked Thomas to stick his finger into the wounds and his side, of course at resurrection, Jesus supposed to have perfect body without wounds inflicted before his death. That's what he himself taught us about resurrection!

Primesky:
OH what a pity!. So that's what that passage means to you, right?. What a shame!.

Jesus was crucified as a human being in the flesh by men. But who raised him up, was it humans or God, please don't tell me angels, because angels can't give life. So who did?. Oh, did you enter the grave to shake him up from death or did the disciples?. What power and force raised him from dead.. It is the Spirit of God!.

Stop picking verses and twisting them to suit your false gospel decieving others and being decieved yourselves.

Now explain the verse below for others to see

Note: for better understanding of the context and flow, read from the beginning of the chapter.


John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

If Jesus rose as a ghost or spirit, why did he have to say this?. Since when did humans begin to touch spirits with their bare hands?.

20:20 And when he had so said, he shewed unto them his hands and his side. Then were the disciples glad, when they saw the LORD.

So you mean that the injuries inflicted on Jesus's physical body permeated onto his spirit body, and this spirit body with the injuries can be seen with physical eyes like the disciples did?, please tell me more, wonders shall never end!.

20:25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the LORD. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.


Thomas made this statement to signify that its impossible for a spirit body to so display the attributes his colleagues where telling him. He gave conditions which must be met to prove that it was indeed a physical body. Was his condition met?.

20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

Jesus himself allowed them to touch and feel him. He even ate bread and fish with his disciples after he resurrected. Does Spirits and ghosts eat human food?. So what happened?.


With all these, do you think we are still talking about the same Jesus?. I don't think so. If you do not believe in the physical resurrection of Jesus Christ, you're not witnesses of him nor do you believe in him, and you can't be called Christians either because you demean the person OF Jesus christ.

The problem you people have is that you try to explain a spiritual book using mere human knowledge as if it's a literature book. No man can understand the Bible well without the help of the Holy Spirit who inspired it, yet you don't belive in him, so what are you doing?.

1 Corinthians 2:14 summarizes it.

A natural man cannot receive the things of the Spirit of God for they are foolishness unto him neither can he know them because they're spiritually discerned.

Going by the verse above, how can you now discern the word of God inspired by the Holy Spirit when you don't believe in him or his existence?, rather, you choose fallible men to be your guide.

Repent and be saved. Jesus Christ is the way to God, non other way. The Holy Spirit alone is the revealer of God's Word no one else!.

rottennaija:
Still, the false religion deny Jesus mediatorship to millions of its follower. They deny them the opportunity of being sons of God, of being joint heirs with Jesus. They fornicated with what they called the disgusting thing of the nation, the United Nation. They slept, wined and dined with the United Nations for 10 good years and when they were exposed, they quickly wore their cloth and ran, then lied about it till today. They continue to falsely prophecy in the name of Jehovah. But as a false prophet, they prophecies have a 100% rate of failure. None came true and none ever will.

They continue to bill and tithe their members in so many ways. Sell of kingdom halls for profit where members laboured to pay and build. They make their members to rent assembly halls they contributed money for and built with their sweat. They deceived their members to collect loans to build kingdom halls, repair the loans and forcefully take ownership of these halls and sell them for profits.

They invest in companies that produce tobacco, that build war equipment, stocks and bonds, real estates while telling members to live a simple life. Heck, even while they were encouraging members to prepared for their failed and disgrace 1975 end of the world, they were busy buying real estates while members where busy selling off properties, put of medical treatments etc for their false prophecies.

Maximus69, all of deceived religious members, JWs are the most deceived and you happen to be happily deceived

NB: I don't speak yoruba.

The bolded is exactly what the Jewish religious leaders told Jesus' followers, yet the GIFT from God which supposed to serve as the sign as evidence of God's chosen group was fulfilled only on the Christians in the first century! Act 2:16 compare to Joel 2:28

The same thing is happening today! You didn't say "this is the only deceived group" but "of all deceived religious members today, JWs are the most deceived"
Yet the only sign God's word foretold will prove as evidence that God's holy spirit is working with a group in the last days (LOVE JOY PEACE PATIENCE GOODNESS GENTLENESS FAITH MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL) is found with no other group except Jehovah's Witnesses! Galatians 5:22-23

You can't even point to a better performing group, what you keep saying is "all religious groups are deceived" you are indirectly saying God doesn't have any ORGANIZED group that truthfully belong to him today!.
Abeg who do you think you're deceiving?

Am a witness and am proud to be one.

Maximus69:
The bolded is exactly what the Jewish religious leaders told Jesus' followers, yet the GIFT from God which supposed to serve as the sign as evidence of God's chosen group was fulfilled only on the Christians in the first century! Act 2:16 compare to Joel 2:28

The same thing is happening today! You didn't say "this is the only deceived group" but "of all deceived religious members today, JWs are the most deceived"
Yet the only sign God's word foretold will prove as evidence that God's holy spirit is working with a group in the last days (LOVE JOY PEACE PATIENCE GOODNESS GENTLENESS FAITH MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL) is found with no other group except Jehovah's Witnesses! Galatians 5:22-23

You can't even point to a better performing group, what you keep saying is "all religious groups are deceived" you are indirectly saying God doesn't have any ORGANIZED group that truthfully belong to him today!.
Abeg who do you think you're deceiving?

Maximus69, when you wake up from your slumber, you will see the love among members of other religious groups more strongly than among the JWs.

Meanwhile, the organisation continues to squeeze you dry while they continue to buy real estate, invest in bonds and stocks, sell kingdom halls for profit, rent assembly halls to members.

But before you kill yourself with the question about another group or whatever, keep in mine, I choose to remain unaffiliated to any religious group. If you can't handle than, I suggest you drink rat poison.

You are the most deceive.

rottennaija:
Maximus69, when you wake up from your slumber, you will see the love among members of other religious groups more strongly than among the JWs.

Meanwhile, the organisation continues to squeeze you dry while they continue to buy real estate, invest in bonds and stocks, sell kingdom halls for profit, rent assembly halls to members.

But before you kill yourself with the question about another group or whatever, keep in mine, I choose to remain unaffiliated to any religious group. If you can't handle than, I suggest you drink rat poison.

You are the most deceive.

Haba! Na so the thing pain you reach?
Abeg no vex a no dey worry you, na you want kill yourself because of God's organization whereas there's no accusations you can level against them that's not found elsewhere.

So why particular about JWs only if you're not killing yourself?

@bolded has said it all Sir! Luke 11:23
we will continue to obey God's word! Hebrew 10:24-25

Just look at all your posts below and tell me if you are not slowly killing yourself because of Jehovah's Witnesses Organization!

Maximus69:
Haba! Na so the thing pain you reach?
Abeg no vex a no dey worry you, na you want kill yourself because of God's organization whereas there's no accusations you can level against them that's not found elsewhere.

So why particular about JWs only if you're not killing yourself?

@bolded has said it all Sir! Luke 11:23
we will continue to obey God's word! Hebrew 10:24-25

Just look at all your posts below and tell me if you are not slowly killing yourself because of Jehovah's Witnesses Organization!

Do you understand the meaning of publicity?

rottennaija:
Do you understand the meaning of publicity?

Each time you wake up in your one room apartment to type gibberish against a global organization of zealous preachers and teachers of PEACE. This little bird comes to mind!

Really pathetic!

Maximus69:
Each time you wake up in your one room apartment to type gibberish against a global organization of zealous preachers and teachers of PEACE. This little bird comes to mind!

Really pathetic!

Who told you he stays in a single room apartment tori Olórun?

Over religion is really affecting humanity,GOD will not judge us based on our religion and I must say most christian believers have wrong knowledge of the Bible

TATIME:
Who told you he stays in a single room apartment tori Olórun?

Can he afford a better apartment?

It's the room Daddy gave him that he's managing nah, that's why he keeps anticipating becoming the landlord but daddy and mommy don't allow him to bring in different callgirls as he wish.
That's why he wakes up and sleeps in bitterness, each time he wakes up it's one thing or another about the GB of JWs that comes to his mind!

Maximus69:
Haba! Na so the thing pain you reach?
Abeg no vex a no dey worry you, na you want kill yourself because of God's organization whereas there's no accusations you can level against them that's not found elsewhere.

So why particular about JWs only if you're not killing yourself?

@bolded has said it all Sir! Luke 11:23
we will continue to obey God's word! Hebrew 10:24-25

Just look at all your posts below and tell me if you are not slowly killing yourself because of Jehovah's Witnesses Organization!

That's why I called him a NON-AFFILIATED ATHEIST
He claims his mind is free from JW's but it's clear from the allegations he has laid here and there on our beloved Organization that he's still being tormented by the thought of not being among the true worshipers of God anymore!

I called him an ATHEIST because apart from denying that God and his true organization exists, he can even go as far as DENYING his own existence as a human being just to carry out his agenda!

DappaD:
That's why I called him a NON-AFFILIATED ATHEIST
He claims his mind is free from JW's but it's clear from the allegations he has laid here and there on our beloved Organization that he's still being tormented by the thought of not being among the true worshipers of God anymore!

I called him an ATHEIST because apart from denying that God and his true organization exists, he can even go as far as DENYING his own existence as a human being just to carry out his agenda!

There are three types of ATHEISTS.

Religious atheists~ These are people who love singing, dancing and listening to motivational speeches, but they detests submission to any form of arrangement. Hence they claim they're worshipers yet nothing binds them close to their fellow worshipers.

Irreligious atheists~ These are people who love to see things working fine in the society, if you're listening to their agitation you'll think they want orderliness, but in actual fact they detests orders yet they'll blame everyone around when things aren't working for them, and if you asked them to present their own opinion on how to make things work, they'll digress and start blaming God.

Freethinkers~ These are people who claims their free from all manner of thoughts, they'll say there shouldn't be any form of organized arrangement under which people must be submissive since each person knows what is right. But as times go by you'll find them complaining about what other people choose to do with their own freewill.

Satan is the founder of all these groups, the one and only group that's well organized and orderly is the Organization of Jehovah's Witnesses. That is where you can be rest assured that everyone is under the law, lawless people won't come out openly to say their minds but they'll continue to agitate against such arrangement!

TATIME:
Hmmmmmmmm.
Please do you think the LIGHT has anything to do with Allah, the Qur'an and Islam?

Because it's like Maximus69 misconstrued the whole thing when he thought the light you mentioned in that post has something to do with your Faith!

The guy never mentioned anything about Islam, Muslim or The Quran, he only talked about his awakening witg JW Org. LIES and Manipulations of their elders. That was what I referred to by him seeing the "Light".

It has nothing to do with Islam and Maximus69 is quite aware but he choose the part of deceit and deflection.

Maximus69:
He has answered me but he's now feeling really bad for rubbishing his own faith!

According to Lukuluku69, neither Allah, Qur'an nor Islam has anything to do with the light!

Oga Military Intelligence Officer stop deflecting go and answer rottennaija on the allegation your elders words at JW carry more weight than what the Bible says.

Lukuluku69:
The guy never mentioned anything about Islam, Muslim or The Quran, he only talked about his awakening witg JW Org. LIES and Manipulations of their elders. That was what I referred to by him seeing the "Light".

It has nothing to do with Islam and Maximus69 is quite aware but he choose the part of deceit and deflection.

‘LIES and Manipulations’
Keep in mind that these will remain allegations.
And you can't actually see these ‘LIES and Manipulations’ with your eyes or at work in any of JW's.

Can we say the same about your ISLAM? But shey the whole world can actually see the ripple effects of your religion right? — claim to be a religion of peace BUT all of you are politically divided which is clearly shown in today's politics. Some Muslims try to force their religion on others — using brute force. Your religious group has been associated with the numerous terrorists attacks and killings but at home and abroad. Just to mention a few.
WOULD YOU CALL THESE FALSE ALLEGATIONS OR THE ACTUAL TRUTH?
Because people actually see these things happen oo

Remember the ‘LIES and Manipulations’ of JW's you can neither see it nor can you prove it.
But your religious group has everly proved itself to the whole world time and time again

Lukuluku69:
The guy never mentioned anything about Islam, Muslim or The Quran, he only talked about his awakening witg JW Org. LIES and Manipulations of their elders. That was what I referred to by him seeing the "Light".

It has nothing to do with Islam and Maximus69 is quite aware but he choose the part of deceit and deflection.

That's the difference between Jehovah's Witnesses (true Christians) and all other religionsists!

The word "light" comes to mind during the discussion about FAITH only if it has anything to do with our God. Once it has nothing to do with our God, we believe that the whole world is in total darkness!

Well that's what i learnt not only from JWs but also in Islam, according to the Qur'an the Prophet Muhammad was given the Qur'an "when the whole world was in total darkness" that statement never meant physical darkness nor does it refer to enlightenment amongst Jews and Catholics, but it simply refers to the one and only source of spiritual light.

So whenever religionsists are debating and someone mention "light" i expect anybody having true FAITH to focus on the ultimate truth about God!

Lukuluku69:
Oga Military Intelligence Officer stop deflecting go and answer rottennaija on the allegation your elders words at JW carry more weight than what the Bible says.

According to Islam, Gabriel (angel) revealed the Qur'an to Muhammad when the whole world was in total darkness.

So please are you a Muslim?

Do you believe what Islam teaches?

Do you think there can be spiritual light elsewhere apart from Islam?

DappaD:
‘LIES and Manipulations’
Keep in mind that these will remain allegations.
And you can't actually see these ‘LIES and Manipulations’ with your eyes or at work in any of JW's.

Can we say the same about your ISLAM? But shey the whole world can actually see the ripple effects of your religion right? — claim to be a religion of peace BUT all of you are politically divided which is clearly shown in today's politics. Some Muslims try to force their religion on others — using brute force. Your religious group has been associated with the numerous terrorists attacks and killings but at home and abroad.
WOULD YOU CALL THESE FALSE ALLEGATIONS OR THE ACTUAL TRUTH?

Remember the ‘LIES and Manipulations’ of JW's you can neither see it nor can you prove it.
But your religious group has everly proved itself to the whole world time and time again

Of course I don't expect you to see the Lies and the Manipulations you are on the inside. So, they will remain ALLEGATIONS to YOU.

Please tell me when over 50m souls perished during the WWI and another 100m souls perished during WWII it was Islam that instigate the Muslims to do it? Those warring Nations in Europe were Muslims? Germany, Great Britain, Italy, Poland, France were Muslims?

Lukuluku69:
Of course I don't expect you to see the Lies and the Manipulations you are on the inside. So, they will remain ALLEGATIONS to YOU.

Please tell me when over 50m souls perished during the WWI and another 100m souls perished during WWII it was Islam that instigate the Muslims to do it? Those warring Nations in Europe were Muslims? Germany, Great Britain, Italy, Poland, France were Muslims?

They were not Muslims so who could they possibly be?
Did you ever hear of Jehovah's Witnesses being involved with WW1, WW2 or any wars since then?

Did Muslims fight in the wars or did they not?
You're going to rope yourself today

Lukuluku69:
Of course I don't expect you to see the Lies and the Manipulations you are on the inside. So, they will remain ALLEGATIONS to YOU.

Please tell me when over 50m souls perished during the WWI and another 100m souls perished during WWII it was Islam that instigate the Muslims to do it? Those warring Nations in Europe were Muslims? Germany, Great Britain, Italy, Poland, France were Muslims?

.

Oga Lukuluku69 can you see these ‘LIES and Manipulations’ and identify it please? Can it be seen? Is it tangible?

That's the only question I asked you

Lukuluku69:
Oga Military Intelligence Officer stop deflecting go and answer rottennaija on the allegation your elders words at JW carry more weight than what the Bible says.

I also happens to be a former Muslim, and i think Maximus69 have a point there. I don't expect any true Muslim to see the light in a debate involving unbelievers (none Muslims). Whatever none Muslims are arguing about supposed to be useless at least from the standpoint of a true Muslim, because we learnt from Islam that in the day of Judgment Allah won't listen to anything an unbeliever (none Muslim) has to say, all his good works will be thrown back in his chest once the Salat is missing!

Maximus69:
According to Islam, Gabriel (angel) revealed the Qur'an to Muhammad when the whole world was in total darkness.

So please are you a Muslim?

Do you believe what Islam teaches?

Do you think there can be spiritual light elsewhere apart from Islam?

The "Darkness" refers to lost knowledge about God. The Xtians says He is Three, same with the Hindus. Other Nations/Culture say He a Cow! Some say He is in Idols and so many others. That was the Darkness.

Also, there was no Universal Law for Mankind. Everyone with his/her system. If He is God of ALL FLESH, is it not logical that He deals with them same way? But look at you guys, the same Divine Law given to Moses was declared a CURSE by the word of a Man!(Paul)

Of course there are/is Spiritual Truth elsewhere but not in a System that doesn't have the right knowledge of God.

TATIME:
I also happens to be a former Muslim, and i think Maximus69 have a point there. I don't expect any true Muslim to see the light in a debate involving unbelievers (none Muslims). Whatever none Muslims are arguing about supposed to be useless at least from the standpoint of a true Muslim, because we learnt from Islam that in the day of Judgment Allah won't listen to anything an unbeliever (none Muslim) has to say, all his good works will be thrown back in his chest once the Salat is missing!

Ebámi sàlàyé fún Lukmon o!

I don't know what Lukmon will tell Allah in the day of Judgment if Allah should ask him to explain or expatiate on the light he found during the debate between unbelievers!

Lukuluku69:
The "Darkness" refers to lost knowledge about God. The Xtians says He is Three, same with the Hindus. Other Nations/Culture say He a Cow! Some say He is in Idols and so many others. That was the Darkness.

Also, there was no Universal Law for Mankind. Everyone with his/her system. If He is God of ALL FLESH, is it not logical that He deals with them same way? But look at you guys, the same Divine Law given to Moses was declared a CURSE by the word of a Man!(Paul)

Of course there are/is Spiritual Truth elsewhere but not in a System that doesn't have the right knowledge of God.

That's exactly how each Religion claiming truth has been saying one thing or the other about the rest so that's another case entirely!

But @ bolded, do you mean spiritual truth apart from Islam?

Please tell me what Islam teaches not what you feel now!

TATIME:
I also happens to be a former Muslim, and i think Maximus69 have a point there. I don't expect any true Muslim to see the light in a debate involving unbelievers (none Muslims). Whatever none Muslims are arguing about supposed to be useless at least from the standpoint of a true Muslim, because we learnt from Islam that in the day of Judgment Allah won't listen to anything an unbeliever (none Muslim) has to say, all his good works will be thrown back in his chest once the Salat is missing!

No wonder you left the True Faith. You never understood the basics! Our Prophet was/is for ALL PEOPLE and not for "the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel".

Again about seeing Light/s in debate, while you were Muslims you never come across verses where the Quran extols the virtues of Nations and men before Muhammad? Was Solat enjoined on them?