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Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Balogunodua(m): 12:18pm On Jul 30, 2020
SlayerForever:
If Igbo Ukwu predates iron smelting then automatically Igbo Ukwu predates Nok culture because Nok used iron smelting. Igbo Ukwu falls into the Bronze Age which precedes the Iron Age, but I know you never knew that grin grin grin.
I think you are confused cheesy

The Nok never did any bronze smelting but terracota which is kown as the stone-age, the Igbo Ukwu bronze are the oldest in west Africa presently
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Nobody: 12:21pm On Jul 30, 2020
SlayerForever:
Igbo has been discovered to have existed a millennium BC. Today ordinary Benin go dey talk rubbish. Saying Igbo groups came out from them, what nonsense. undecided
Ordinary Benin ba?

We've heard of Benin Kingdom.

Mention a popular kingdom from Igboland.
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by SlayerForever: 12:34pm On Jul 30, 2020
Balogunodua:
I think you are confused cheesy

The Nok never did any bronze smelting but terracota which is kown as the stone-age, the Igbo Ukwu bronze are the oldest in west Africa presently
True. But where are the Nok today? You see your life undecided


The Igbo remain the oldest group in Nigeria today and probably across West Africa.
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by SlayerForever: 12:37pm On Jul 30, 2020
FrLukas:
Ordinary Benin ba?

We've heard of Benin Kingdom.

Mention a popular kingdom from Igboland.
Benin Kingdom is a tier lower compared to the height of the Nok and early Igbo civilizations . undecided


They are just more talked about as the most recent. I still talk am again : ordinary Benin undecided
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Balogunodua(m): 12:51pm On Jul 30, 2020
SlayerForever:
True. But where are the Nok today? You see your life undecided


The Igbo remain the oldest group in Nigeria today and probably across West Africa.
You are still confused grin

There is no settlement in Igboland that predates that of ife or any west Africa settlement, and the Igbos were not the oldest group in Nigeria or west Africa infact the Eredo Sungbo in Ijebu dated back to 500AD so you have to understand what we are saying here is that the Igbo Ukwu were the earliest iron smelter in west Africa not the oldest group and their bronze is not even the best, cause the lack the techniques found in the earlier Ife and Benin bronze mainly soldering, wire making etc.


You can go make your research.
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by SlayerForever: 1:02pm On Jul 30, 2020
Balogunodua:
You are still confused grin

There is no settlement in Igboland that predates that of ife or any west Africa settlement, and the Igbos were not the oldest group in Nigeria or west Africa infact the Eredo Sungbo in Ijebu dated back to 500AD so you have to understand what we are saying here is that the Igbo Ukwu were the earliest iron smelter in west Africa not the oldest group and their bronze is not even the best, cause the lack the techniques found in the earlier Ife and Benin bronze mainly soldering, wire making etc.


You can go make your research.
Continue running about. You're talking 500 AD while Nok and the Igbo civilizations have been present a millennium earlier. To even support my stand the wire making and soldering are newer innovations. The Igbo Ukwu artworks were widely defined as using crude unfamiliar methods by archeologists showing these methods are much more earlier and independently developed. We're talking centuries older. You're arguing but you don't know the Benin art that came centuries later was heavily Nri influenced. Nonsense.



You're yet to answer me: Where are the Nok today?
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by kettykin: 1:15pm On Jul 30, 2020
Osagyefo98:
Lol

yes yes yes


just park and go back home.
go Home from where , even Lagos was and is of Benin Origin, and the igbos in Lagos are of Benin Origin
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Bkayyy: 1:21pm On Jul 30, 2020
SlayerForever:
Benin Kingdom is a tier lower compared to the height of the Nok and early Igbo civilizations . undecided


They are just more talked about as the most recent. I still talk am again : ordinary Benin undecided
You don't need to roll in the mud with these sub Africans, kingdoms are things of the medieval Era, we've passed such nonsense that is why they don't understand our way of life. We are Republicans in nature but in ancient times when we were in the level bini and Yoruba are now we had kings like Eze nri, Eze aro, obi nnewi and so on
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Balogunodua(m): 1:23pm On Jul 30, 2020
SlayerForever:
Continue running about. You're talking 500 AD while Nok and the Igbo civilizations have been present a millennium earlier. To even support my stand the wire making and soldering are newer innovations. The Igbo Ukwu artworks were widely defined as using crude unfamiliar methods by archeologists showing these methods are much more earlier and independently developed. We're talking centuries older. You're arguing but you don't know the Benin art that came centuries later was heavily Nri influenced. Nonsense.



You're yet to answer me: Where are the Nok today?
Hahahaha... grin

You only pained my friend cheesy the Ife bronze heads are pure copper using the lost wax techniques, the Olokun head still remains the only realistic bronze head that ever came out of Africa till date, the Europeans were wowed at the realism of the Olokun head that made them compare it to the lost Atlantis civilization cheesy and it displayed all around the world.
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Bkayyy: 1:27pm On Jul 30, 2020
Balogunodua:
Hahahaha... grin

You only pained my friend cheesy the Ife bronze heads are pure copper using the lost wax techniques, the Olokun head still remains the only realistic bronze head that ever came out of Africa till date, the Europeans were wowed at the realism of the Olokun head that made them compare it to the lost Atlantic civilization cheesy and it displayed all around the world.
Look very well, this is nri

Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Bkayyy: 1:29pm On Jul 30, 2020
Bkayyy:
Look very well, this is nri
The beads in in middle (wonder how they managed to carve it inside it) unlike the clay beads Yoruba and bini are known of are glass beads, thought to be only found in middle east
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by OfoIgbo: 1:40pm On Jul 30, 2020
Nwanyiogwashi:
How can a tribe of close to 50m people (Igbo) migrate from Benin that is not up 4m people huh You well so?
You have to know Bini people are experts and historical 419.
Ikwerre people have already fallen victim to it.

Benin people are not up to 2 million, yet they are trying to convince nonentities that 40+ million Igbos came from Igodomigodo. They are 419ners.

But see how the Benin people are always sharp to ensure they don't show respect to Nri, the cultural fathers of Benin people. They don't want to show the needed respect to Nri, but they want some ignorant Igbos to show them respect as their fathers.
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by OfoIgbo: 1:49pm On Jul 30, 2020
SlayerForever:
You're still talking 40BC. Nri Kingdom precedes anything in Igodomigodo but Nri kingdom came much much later in Igbo history. Findings from Igbo excavation sites have revealed works from a millenium before. Igodomigodo, Ife were much later immigrations. If we scrutinize Igodomigodo we would find heavy influence from the much older Igbo group. Influences you won't like to see.
Nri people held sway in Igodomigodo. Historical books allude to that. Nri people were also the cultural/religious guardians of Benin empire.
Nri kingdom started perhaps up to a thousand years before the 9th century AD being ascribed to Nri's origin. That date only truly denotes the dating of the Igbo-Ukwu excavations which were attributed to the Nris, through Oraeri, an Nri offshoot. But it has been erroneously passed on, as the period that Nri civilisation started.

Benin people still use the 4 market days instituted by the Nris. They cannot deny that fact, as it is one of the very few cultural elements of Nri, that survives till present day.
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Etinosa1234: 1:51pm On Jul 30, 2020
OfoIgbo:
You have to know Bini people are experts and historical 419.
Ikwerre people have already fallen victim to it.

Benin people are not up to 2 million, yet they are trying to convince nonentities that 40+ million Igbos came from Igodomigodo. They are 419ners.

But see how the Benin people are always sharp to ensure they don't show respect to Nri, the cultural fathers of Benin people. They don't want to show the needed respect to Nri, but they want some ignorant Igbos to show them respect as their fathers.
Bro I must admit... insulting Benin will do u no good
And Benin people don't claim land they know nothing abt... only God know what tribe that guy is
See population of Bini people ...always do ur research... it'll cost u nothing

Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Balogunodua(m): 1:51pm On Jul 30, 2020
Bkayyy:
Look very well, this is nri
What do you want me do with this pics huh
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Balogunodua(m): 1:58pm On Jul 30, 2020
SlayerForever


The oldest Igbo Ukwu bronze dated back to 840AD so it does not predates Ijebu Eredo Sungbo stop lying grin the nok culture is by far the oldest dating back to 200BCE.
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by OfoIgbo: 1:59pm On Jul 30, 2020
Balogunodua:
Stop taking toomuch apku it not good for your health grin

The only thing that predates that of Ife were the bronze found at Igbo Ukwu site and research still doubt it, Ife existed long before the birth Jesus Christ, infact the pave road in Ife dated back to 800AD and you Nri kingdom was founded in 900AD Oga Nri never predates Ife.
Nri predates Ife by possibly more than a thousand years. Ife's achievements is only provable from 12th -14th century AD

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If%E1%BA%B9

Tomorrow, you will tell us Ife invented coal-tar.
And the Portuguese that were in Benin in the 1400s claimed that the papal figure to the east of Benin, was the greatest of such figure in the whole vicinity.
Now I know Ife is probably closer to Benin, that any of the core umu Nri towns, yet the Benin people made such a statement to the Portuguese. What this clearly shows is that Nri was far greater than Ife. To put it in another way. Igbos (Nri) are greater than Yorubas (Ife)
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Bkayyy: 2:02pm On Jul 30, 2020
Balogunodua:
What do you want me do with this pics huh
Masturbate with it
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Bkayyy: 2:04pm On Jul 30, 2020
Etinosa1234:
Bro I must admit... insulting Benin will do u no good
And Benin people don't claim land they know nothing abt... only God know what tribe that guy is
See population of Bini people ...always do ur research... it'll cost u nothing
He said bini not the whole of Edo state which includes ika, esan, etsako, akoko Edo and igara
Bini is not up to 800,0000
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Etinosa1234: 2:06pm On Jul 30, 2020
Atigba:
I told you the people who populate the local government which you have not been able to debunk.. You only mentioned names of communities, Idumu in the local government.

What constitute the population.

Igbanke people in Igodomigodo, where are they residing?

Ika where are they residing?

Our Idu aborigines where are they residing?

You are high on weed.
List of villages in Edo state

https://www.medianigeria.com/list-of-towns-and-villages-in-orhionmwon-l-g-a-edo-state/

List of districts in Orhionwmwon. Only Igbanke are the non Benin tribe and have at most 10 villages
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_villages_in_Edo_State
List of ika communities in Edo that are not even up to 5
Ika people are mainly in delta and less in edo
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ika_language_(Nigeria)

There are no people like idu Aborigines...

Prince idu was a son of Oba Eweka..who battled prince uwakhuekhuen for the throne

U lie a lot and u are not ready to prove any lie u say


Seun Mynd44 rule 8
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Atigba(op): 2:07pm On Jul 30, 2020
Etinosa1234:
Bro I must admit... insulting Benin will do u no good
And Benin people don't claim land they know nothing abt... only God know what tribe that guy is
See population of Bini people ...always do ur research... it'll cost u nothing
Benin population is not up to 500,000

Stop counting others people population to yours. Benin city is populated with different ethnic nationalities.

It is also the state capital, meaning alot of other ethnic nationalities migrated to live there.
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Etinosa1234: 2:07pm On Jul 30, 2020
Bkayyy:
He said bini not the whole of Edo state which includes ika, esan, etsako, akoko Edo and igara
Bini is not up to 800,0000
Obviously u don't know how to read

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.britannica.com/topic/Edo-people&ved=2ahUKEwjq59P5hfXqAhXlxoUKHdRXB20QFjACegQIDBAH&usg=AOvVaw2ijVZnF5BdQtesdmouvtbt

Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Atigba(op): 2:11pm On Jul 30, 2020
Etinosa1234:
List of villages in Edo state

https://www.medianigeria.com/list-of-towns-and-villages-in-orhionmwon-l-g-a-edo-state/

List of districts in Orhionwmwon. Only Igbanke are the non Benin tribe and have at most 10 villages
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_villages_in_Edo_State
List of ika communities in Edo that are not even up to 5
Ika people are mainly in delta and less in edo
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ika_language_(Nigeria)

There are no people like idu Aborigines...

Prince idu was a son of Oba Eweka..who battled prince uwakhuekhuen for the throne

U lie a lot and u are not ready to prove any lie u say


Seun Mynd44 rule 8
Good now that you have admitted that Ika and Igbanke populate the local government, let's move forward.

The Idu aborigines I refered to are aborigines of my land Igodomigodo Idu descendants.

They are not Benin.

ille binu is Oredo, Egor, Ovia local government areas. That is the place we leased to ille ibinu people which you have not been able to pay rent anyway.

Those are the three local governments Benin people occupy in Edo South.

Other local government areas are aborigines of Igodomigodo
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Etinosa1234: 2:14pm On Jul 30, 2020
Atigba:
Benin population is not up to 500,000

Stop counting others people population to yours. Benin city is populated with different ethnic nationalities.

It is also the state capital, meaning alot of other ethnic nationalities migrated to live there.
U will Jus stay in ur mud house and be vomiting nonsense with confidence
See population of Bini in 2 different sites

This is the population of only Bini as u can see it

Show me how u did ur census that Bini is 500,000

Bkayyy show me when u did ur census that Bini was 800,000

I'm waiting

Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Malawian(m): 2:17pm On Jul 30, 2020
Pls, I have heard about these "oru" people. Pls who are they? Where can they be found and what language do they speak?
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Bkayyy: 2:17pm On Jul 30, 2020
Etinosa1234:
U will Jus stay in ur mud house and be vomiting nonsense with confidence
See population of Bini in 2 different sites

This is the population of only Bini as u can see it

Show me how u did ur census that Bini is 500,000

Bkayyy show me when u did ur census that Bini was 800,000

I'm waiting
What you posted is no proof, Wikipedia always have references but your Wikipedia population shows no reference which means it was posted by a random individual. In fact I will remove it now, check the Wikipedia page again in the next 10 mind
Anyway what will I gain from deleting the lie
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by OfoIgbo: 2:19pm On Jul 30, 2020
Etinosa1234:
Bro I must admit... insulting Benin will do u no good
And Benin people don't claim land they know nothing abt... only God know what tribe that guy is
See population of Bini people ...always do ur research... it'll cost u nothing
I did my research and I saw this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edo_State

In it, it states that Edo state has a population of 3.2 million.
Now I know that there are other ethnic groups in Edo state, so by the time you remove the populations of the other non-Bini ethnic groups, I am sure Bini population will come down to around 2 million.

According to that page, Bini-speaking people occupy 7 out of the 18 LGAs in Edo state and constitute 57+% of the state.
Please find out what 57% of 3.2 million is. You will notice that it is slightly below two million.


Do you research well please
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Atigba(op): 2:20pm On Jul 30, 2020
Etinosa1234:
U will Jus stay in ur mud house and be vomiting nonsense with confidence
See population of Bini in 2 different sites

This is the population of only Bini as u can see it

Show me how u did ur census that Bini is 500,000

Bkayyy show me when u did ur census that Bini was 800,000

I'm waiting
Stop counting other people's population to yours, you idiot.

You are not up to 500,000 by population. Benin city is the state capital hence other ethnicnationalities in both within Edo State and outside Edo State reside in Benin city l.

Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Atigba(op): 2:21pm On Jul 30, 2020
OfoIgbo:
I did my research and I saw this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edo_State

In it, it states that Edo state has a population of 3.2 million.
Now I know that there are other ethnic groups in Edo state, so by the time you remove the populations of the other non-Bini ethnic groups, I am sure Bini population will come down to around 2 million.

Do you research well please
Benin people are minority in Edo State

They are not up to 500,000
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