I will try and make this very short..... This is an open discussion though.

The reason Nigerians are complacent about the situation of Nigeria is because 60-70% of Nigerians dont pay tax. Why ? Most Nigerians are business people, the higher percentage are the small scale businesses...... How many of them pay tax.... NONE......

If you pay tax and you know that it is your money (tax) a person is embezzling without regards, no body will tell you to protest and revolt. They wont even try it.

That is one thing the developed nation did that we failed to do. We failed to create a system where by everybody contribute to the growth of the country. By so doing you will naturally hold any leader responsible.... You know how hard you work for your money then the government takes some percentage as tax on automatically and then one person embezzles it........ No body will tell you to stand for your right and no leader will try it.

Nigerian just keep shouting OUR MONEY ( What they mean is Oil Money or Money coming from Natural Resources) not money coming from your pocket........ If it is coming from pocket (Income) then the way Nigerian leaders siphon money wont happen like that. They will be scared to do that because they know people will hold them accountable for it.

Most Nigerians are in one social club or the other were we pay monthly dues..... during the end of the year party, the leader should come out and say they bought a crate of soft drink for N10,000 ...... Can they say that ? No..... they know people will revolt and it will cause problem...... Why ? because everybody has a stake in the club's money (it is our money) so naturally corruption will reduce .....

Secondly, people will naturally want to know how the money is spent and make sure it make sense or else the leader of the social club have some explaining to do........

Corruption cannot be eradicated but it can be reduced..

That is why corruption in Developed Nations is not as it is in Africa. Remember there is corruption everywhere but not as bad as Africa or Nigeria

In Nigeria a Leader came out and said her ministry feed children who are out of school with hundreds of million - How ?
In Lagos a Leader said a corona virus patient care cost is 1 Million per day and so on...

No wonder a British Prime Minister once said Nigeria is Stupendiously corrupt.......

AristocraticMe:
I will try and make this very short..... This is an open discussion though.

The reason Nigerians are complacent about the situation of Nigeria is because 60-70% of Nigerians dont pay tax. Why ? Most Nigerians are business people, the higher percentage are the small scale businesses...... How many of them pay tax.... NONE......

If you pay tax and you know that it is your money (tax) a person is embezzling without regards, no body will tell you to protest and revolt. They wont even try it.

That is one thing the developed nation did that we failed to do. We failed to create a system where by everybody contribute to the growth of the country. By so doing you will naturally hold any leader responsible.... You know how hard you work for your money then the government takes some percentage and then one person embezzles it........ No body will allow it to happen.....

Nigerian just keep shouting OUR MONEY ( What they mean is Oil Money or Money coming from Natural Resources) not money coming from your pocket........ If it is coming from pocket (Income) then the way Nigerian leaders siphon money wont happen like that. They will be scared to do that because they know people will hold them accountable for it.

Most Nigerians are in one social club or the other were we pay monthly dues..... during the end of the year party, the leader should come out and say the bought a crate of soft drink for N10,000 ...... Can they say that ? No..... they know people will revolt and it will cause problem...... Why ? because everybody has a stake in the club's money (it is our money) so naturally corruption will reduce .....

Corruption cannot be eradicated but it can be reduced..

That is why corruption in Developed Nations is not as it is in Africa. Remember there is corruption everywhere but not as bad as Africa or Nigeria

In Nigeria a Leader came out and said her ministry feed children who are out of school with hundreds of million - How ?
In Lagos a Leader said a coronavirus patient care is 1 Million per day and so on...

No wonder a British Prime Minister once said Nigeria is Stupendiously corrupt.......

You have a valid point, but still before forcing hapless Nigerians to pay tax, let the government clean up itself.


If it doesn't, me I am not paying Kobo

Who tax help?

They will still loot the money.

You don't know these politicians,
they don't care they only care about themselves.

Light1259:
They will still loot the money.

You don't know these politicians,
they don't care they only care about themselves.

They wont... they will be scared of Nigerians....... People would have protest of high cost of maintaining the National Assembly.... if it was their little money they use in paying just one Senator a big salary.... No body will take it.... things will change.

Charleys:
Who tax help?

It helped developed and developing nations........

Once you will provide job for everybody.

And who told you everyone isn't paying tax.

Check your invoices and bank statements

ArcFresky:


You have a valid point, but still before forcing hapless Nigerians to pay tax, let the government clean up itself.


If it doesn't, me I am not paying Kobo

You almost scored. The dude does not have any valid point on taxation until the so-called government in Nigeria understands who pays their salaries. Now the salaries are being paid by rented rogues called presidents and governors. It is very silly for any governors to buy cars for Judges and traditional rulers while road workers or sweepers cannot even get themselves to the junction to start day's task.

The ones we have been paying, any basic amenities provided by government to back it up?

Pensioners for Imo state collect better flogging from their children and grand children hand because them ask for their money.

Who will bell the cat?

Go start revolution say them choo your tax make you see the way soldier go use you shine.

China taking over Nigeria is the next best thing after slices bread, you will see the way China will implement death penalty on any politician that steals.

Untill then na me and you dey this country together with our oyel money

omowolewa:
And who told you everyone isn't paying tax.

Check your invoices and bank statements

did i say everyone..... ? Please read.

VERY TRUE... and as hard as people like it, thats the only way to go (so long as these bastard polithieves are gone). having the same polithieves in power wouldnt change anything, even if Nigeria makes trillion $$$ in taxes

AristocraticMe:
They wont... they will be scared of Nigerians....... People would have protest of high cost of maintaining the National Assembly.... if it was their little money they use in paying just one Senator a big salary.... No body will take it.... things will change.

They wouldn't implement the idea.
They all know the right thing to do but due to religion and ethnicity, it won't work.

I don't need to read this post to tell you that God will punish you ..all through my childhood I've being my Government assisting myself in anyway I can ,while the government on the other hand keep ripping me of my hardwork with vat on everything transaction I do ,while the return money earned is being embezzled by those shameless and more devily dangerous than devil government officials

Please to those misunderstanding my argument, when was the last time Nigerians came together and fight for a reasonable cause ? When, the last time was during petrol increase under GEJ, or during Abacha…

Apart from that when was the last time ? A leader confidently came out and bought cars for judges what did anyone do about it ….. Nothing…… A leader said they feed Lagos COVID patient with 1 million naira daily what did you do or anybody do ? Nothing. Look at NDDC it is a shame. and so on.

A Governor once stated he has Senior Technical Adivser, Technical Adviser and Junior Technical Adviser all numbering to 1800 people….. doing what ? the same thing… What did any one do about it ? Nothing.

Reasons is that is not itching Nigerians enough…. If it does, Nigerians will hold the Nigeria to a halt and things will change by force….

Lastly Nigerians are coward........ Nobody is ready to sacrifice anything (Be it time, money or strenght) even for future generations........

If all the teachers in Nigeria should protest about the poor state of the educational system or even something else..... A change will come.... but the question is who will spear head it ? No one...... It is a shame and it is very painful.

Read history you will find out that the only way to bring change to fight for your right.... Look at Hong Kong, South Africa (they kept on protesting till a sitting president was forced to step down) and so on.

AristocraticMe:
I will try and make this very short..... This is an open discussion though.

The reason Nigerians are complacent about the situation of Nigeria is because 60-70% of Nigerians dont pay tax. Why ? Most Nigerians are business people, the higher percentage are the small scale businesses...... How many of them pay tax.... NONE......

If you pay tax and you know that it is your money (tax) a person is embezzling without regards, no body will tell you to protest and revolt. They wont even try it.

That is one thing the developed nation did that we failed to do. We failed to create a system where by everybody contribute to the growth of the country. By so doing you will naturally hold any leader responsible.... You know how hard you work for your money then the government takes some percentage as tax on automatically and then one person embezzles it........ No body will tell you to stand for your right and no leader will try it.

Nigerian just keep shouting OUR MONEY ( What they mean is Oil Money or Money coming from Natural Resources) not money coming from your pocket........ If it is coming from pocket (Income) then the way Nigerian leaders siphon money wont happen like that. They will be scared to do that because they know people will hold them accountable for it.

Most Nigerians are in one social club or the other were we pay monthly dues..... during the end of the year party, the leader should come out and say they bought a crate of soft drink for N10,000 ...... Can they say that ? No..... they know people will revolt and it will cause problem...... Why ? because everybody has a stake in the club's money (it is our money) so naturally corruption will reduce .....

Secondly, people will naturally want to know how the money is spent and make sure it make sense or else the leader of the social club have some explaining to do........

Corruption cannot be eradicated but it can be reduced..

That is why corruption in Developed Nations is not as it is in Africa. Remember there is corruption everywhere but not as bad as Africa or Nigeria

In Nigeria a Leader came out and said her ministry feed children who are out of school with hundreds of million - How ?
In Lagos a Leader said a corona virus patient care cost is 1 Million per day and so on...

No wonder a British Prime Minister once said Nigeria is Stupendiously corrupt.......

every Nigerian is paying tax- stamp duty, paye, vat, market levies etc. people steal with impunity.

joyandfaith:



every Nigerian is paying tax- stamp duty, paye, vat, market levies etc. people steal with impunity.

They dont........... stamp duty, market levy and so on.... all those ones is not direct tax, brother..... Do you have a tax identification number ? All those pay here pay there are all money paid for the impunity and recklessness caused by bad leaders over time.

It's an illusion that Nigerians don't pay tax.

Go and buy jollof rice at Chicken Republic and check the receipt they print out for you.

You'll see VAT = Value Added Tax.

Nigerians pay tax on almost everything they buy.

Not to talk of those who work in the civil service, teachers, doctors etc who do PAYE Pay As You Earn, where your tax is deducted from source.

I'm also sure private companies also pay taxes.

Besides, what makes you think that your politicians won't steal your taxes?

Same politicians that were ready to increase the taxes once they saw that oil money wasn't coming in again.

You are very funny.

They'll rob you blind of your taxes and even flaunt it right in your presence and you'll do absolutely NOTHING.

You know why?

The people that will attack you for attacking the politicians are your fellow suffering masses.

FrLukas:
It's an illusion that Nigerians don't pay tax.

Go and buy jollof rice at Chicken Republic and check the receipt they print out for you.

You'll see VAT = Value Added Tax.

Nigerians pay tax on almost everything they buy.

Not to talk of those who work in the civil service, teachers, doctors etc who do PAYE Pay As You Earn, where your tax is deducted from source.

I'm also sure private companies also pay taxes.

Please read i said 60- 70% i did not say everyone..... majority dont pay and lastly VAT is not direct.... do they give you Tax Identification Number for paying VAT..........

AristocraticMe:
Please read i said 60- 70% i did not say everyone..... majority dont pay and lastly VAT is not direct.... do they give you Tax Identification Number for paying VAT..........

1) I wonder where you got that figure from, 60-70%

I'd like to know the data you're relying upon.

2) It is only when you actually have a job that you can pay tax and collect TIN. Will you go and steal because you want to pay tax? No!

3) Whether they give you TIN or not o, the point is, you are paying money that they call tax which otherwise you wouldn't have to pay.

Maybe you don't know that the various VATs that you pay somehow finds its way to the coffers of the government.

Stop this nonsense ..there is no single Nigerian. That doesn't pay tax

joyandfaith:



every Nigerian is paying tax- stamp duty, paye, vat, market levies etc. people steal with impunity.

That’s not the tax he is talking about, in the U.K they have income tax where a specific percentage of all the money you make go to the government, they also have council tax, where a fixed rate is taken from everyone living in thst council and they use that money to build houses roads, schools, hospitals etc, in the U.K they have all of that and more, only 10 million Nigerians pay income tax. Which creates 27 billion dollars for Nigeria if 100 million Nigerians paid tax than Nigeria s budget would by 270-310 billion dollars, but we don’t that’s why Egypt and South Africa have higher budgets than us because their citizens pay income tax more than Nigerians do. And his point is when your money is being stolen by politicians then you will have a Problem, for now it is just the revenue made from resources in the country. So you don’t really care about it.

GamalNasser:
Stop this nonsense ..there is no single Nigerian. That doesn't pay tax

That is totally untrue Nigerians don’t pay income tax only 10 million Nigerians pay income tax,

FrLukas:


1) I wonder where you got that figure from, 60-70%

I'd like to know the data you're relying upon.

2) It is only when you actually have a job that you can pay tax and collect TIN. Will you go and steal because you want to pay tax? No!

3) Whether they give you TIN or not o, the point is, you are paying money that they call tax which otherwise you wouldn't have to pay.

Maybe you don't know that the various VATs that you pay somehow finds its way to the coffers of the government.

I will try and explain something to you.

VAT is tax but it is not a Direct Tax......... The regular tax is being paid base on your income.. not on your purchase.... so VAT is not TAX.... Tax is the PAYE your mentioned.

When you buy Garri do you pay tax ? No
When you buy bread do you pay tax ? No

Does the woman that own the beauty shop in your area pay tax ? No
Do you pay tax when you visit a barbing salon ? No

So you see.... all this people should pay tax at the end of the year declaring their income and the government tax them base on their income... and they pay...

Simple.

Abohboy:


That’s not the tax he is talking about, in the U.K they have income tax where a specific percentage of all the money you make go to the government, they also have council tax, where a fixed rate is taken from everyone living in thst council and they use that money to build houses roads, schools, hospitals etc, in the U.K they have all of that and more, only 10 million Nigerians pay income tax. Which creates 27 billion dollars for Nigeria if 100 million Nigerians paid tax than Nigeria s budget would by 270-310 billion dollars, but we don’t that’s why Egypt and South Africa have higher budgets than us because their citizens pay income tax more than Nigerians do. And his point is when your money is being stolen by politicians then you will have a Problem, for now it is just the revenue made from resources in the country. So you don’t really care about it.

Thank you.... now i see someone who understands where i am driving to.

Lol.. Even if Nigerians pay tax every second the politicians will still embezzled it

AristocraticMe:
They wont... they will be scared of Nigerians....... People would have protest of high cost of maintaining the National Assembly.... if it was their little money they use in paying just one Senator a big salary.... No body will take it.... things will change.

Stop typing like u live in moon.. Even if they embezzle it the citizens are docile to see anything.. With what is Happening in Nigeria they should be a revolt, so will it just take only tax payment to revolt?

Don't be intelligent by half

Ikennamurphy:
Lol.. Even if Nigerians pay tax every second the politicians will still embezzled it

You wont let it to happen...... i mean you.wont allow it.

Ikennamurphy:

Stop typing like u live in moon.. Even if they embezzle it the citizens are docile to see anything.. With what is Happening in Nigeria they should be a revolt, so will it just take only tax payment to revolt?

Don't be intelligent by half

His point is when your money is being embezzled then you will protest, but it’s not so you just complain but not protest.

FrLukas:
It's an illusion that Nigerians don't pay tax.

Go and buy jollof rice at Chicken Republic and check the receipt they print out for you.

You'll see VAT = Value Added Tax.

Nigerians pay tax on almost everything they buy.

Not to talk of those who work in the civil service, teachers, doctors etc who do PAYE Pay As You Earn, where your tax is deducted from source.

I'm also sure private companies also pay taxes.

Besides, what makes you think that your politicians won't steal your taxes?

Same politicians that were ready to increase the taxes once they saw that oil money wasn't coming in again.

You are very funny.

They'll rob you blind of your taxes and even flaunt it right in your presence and you'll do absolutely NOTHING.

You know why?

The people that will attack you for attacking the politicians are your fellow suffering masses.

Good resounding reply.. The op is intelligent by half.. Writing like one alien

Abohboy:


That is totally untrue Nigerians don’t pay income tax only 10 million Nigerians pay income tax,

How many Nigerians are even gainfully employed? You have said Personal income tax and not TAX ..because No Nigerian can escape paying VAT daily