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Maximus69:
You need not be offended by the truth, Jesus knew very well what will happen if Satan is let on the loose to attack his followers {Luke 18:8} that's why Jesus said "by their FRUIT you will know them" {Matthew 7:20} because Satan will gather his own agents and they will also claim Christians, since they're weeds they will outnumbered the fine seed of Jesus, the farmers and botanists will understand this better. Matthew 13:25

So why do you and your cohorts failed to realize this facts? Well it's because you people are carried away with GIFTS of the spirit instead of concentrating on the FRUIT!

There are trees in the forest that have the same or similar GIFTS, for instance a tree may have tick branches, big and shady leaves, smooth body, beautiful flowers and so on but it's FRUIT may not be edible it might even be poisonous!

Likewise all worship involves Spirits, you'll find books inspired by spirits, signs and wonders, singers and fine music, huge worship centers, beautiful paintings and designs, nice and wicked people in all religions due to the imperfect state of man, these are the GIFTS you will find in all the religions on this planet.

But what about the FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit?
Well there is just one single tree that can bear this one "the tree that's planet by the true God himself" {John 15:1} Jesus is that tree, so no matter how Satan tries to corrupt it there will always be friction because that's where the spirit of truth dwells {John 14:17} therefore the good tree can never bear routine fruit neither can the evil tree bear good fruit! Matthew 7:16-18

You'll notice that Jesus never referred to what we will use to recognize the truth as FRUITS in plural but FRUIT as in singular, the reason is because the fruit is just one but having nine tastes (qualities) LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, GENTLENESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL {Galatians 5:22-23} no human can have all these qualities because we are imperfect, but the tree (Jesus) that God planted has it all, so the GROUP that Jesus is working with {Matthew 28:20} will produce it all not individually but as an organization!

That's why the world today can see JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES Organization as if the tallest mountain that can't be hidden! Matthew 5:14-16 compare to Isaiah 2:2-4

You may be wondering why is it that we don't go about with religious titles neither do we claim i'm Born Again (even though they're in our midst) yet when it comes to the fruitage of God's Holy Spirit, 99.9% of the world's population are looking forward to JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Matthew 5:13

Maximus69:
@KNOWMORE56

Any further question?

Just know that this is not about perfection of worshipers as most people expects, it's all about OBEDIENCE to those taking the lead in the midst of God's people! Hebrew 13:7,17

Once this quality is found in anyone, God erases the person's presently state, since he/she is humble God is looking forward to what the person will become in the future, that's why Jesus could say to a condemned criminal "truly i tell you today, you will be with me in Paradise" {Luke 23:43} surely Jesus wasn't interested in what the person is in the past, neither his present state but in what he will become in the future since he's now prepared to OBEY Jesus as King {Luke 23:42 compare to Zephaniah 2:2-3}
The problem most people have with God's arrangement is the ability to humble themselves and learn what is righteosness, rather they feel it is OK as they're doing their best in what they know as good deeds {Luke 18:18-23 compare to Romans 10:2-4} whereas they don't belong to any specific religious group, indirectly they're saying "i don't need anyone to teach me how to do the will of God, i know it myself" yet they'll be here and there trying to correct others, OK how can we ascertain the standard all of us should subscribe to? After all there are thousands of religions with different doctrines, arrogant people will never find any group to present because they don't want to humble themselves under any arrangement!

achorladey:
Maximus69: indirectly they're saying I don't need anyone to teach me how to do the will of God, i know it myself"

Achorladey: I write you these things about those who are trying to mislead you. 27 And as for you, the anointing that you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to be teaching you; but the anointing from him is teaching you about all things and is true and is no lie. Just as it has taught you, remain in union with him.

So now, little children, remain in union with him, so that when he is made manifest we may have freeness of speech and not shrink away from him in shame at his presence. 29 If you know that he is righteous, you also know that everyone who practices righteousness has been born from him

Hope you can see that Maximus69 aka Jehovah and Jesus who can erase people's past and present into the future .

Christ didn't ask anybody to be looking for a group that spring up in the late 19th century as his GROUP. There is no scripture you can quote to support that. [/b]Na the GBEMU you dey drink.

Christ promise to be with his disciples throughout the ages. Matthew 28: 20.

Janosky:
Isaiah 43:10-12
10 Ye are my witnesses, saith Jehovah, and my servant whom I have chosen; that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. 11 I, even I, am Jehovah; and besides me there is no saviour. 12 I have declared, and I have saved, and I have showed; and there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith Jehovah, and I am God"

achorladey:
Maximus69: indirectly they're saying I don't need anyone to teach me how to do the will of God, i know it myself"

Achorladey: I write you these things about those who are trying to mislead you. 27 And as for you, the anointing that you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to be teaching you; but the anointing from him is teaching you about all things and is true and is no lie. Just as it has taught you, remain in union with him.

So now, little children, remain in union with him, so that when he is made manifest we may have freeness of speech and not shrink away from him in shame at his presence. 29 If you know that he is righteous, you also know that everyone who practices righteousness has been born from him

Hope you can see that Maximus69 aka Jehovah and Jesus who can erase people's past and present into the future .

Christ didn't ask anybody to be looking for a group that spring up in the late 19th century as his GROUP. There is no scripture you can quote to support that. [/b]Na the GBEMU you dey drink.

Christ promise to be with his disciples throughout the ages. Matthew 28: 20.

1 Corinthians 3:23 You belong to Christ, in turn Christ belongs to God"

Isaiah 43:10-12, Jehovah's Organization of His GENUINE Servants existed since the days of Creation.


If it's not Jehovah's Organization, Matthew23:10-11, who will Jesus lead?

Hebrews 13:17, if it's not Jehovah's Organization, whom will be appointed to minister to members of the Group?

Janosky:
Isaiah 43:10-12
10 Ye are my witnesses, saith Jehovah, and my servant whom I have chosen; that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. 11 I, even I, am Jehovah; and besides me there is no saviour. 12 I have declared, and I have saved, and I have showed; and there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith Jehovah, and I am God"

Janosky:
Isaiah 43:10-12
10 Ye are my witnesses, saith Jehovah, and my servant whom I have chosen; that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. 11 I, even I, am Jehovah; and besides me there is no saviour. 12 I have declared, and I have saved, and I have showed; and there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith Jehovah, and I am God"

Acts 3:13 (Compare Revelations 3:12-14.)
The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his Servant Jesus,

1 Corinthians 3:23 You belong to Christ, in turn Christ belongs to God"

Isaiah 43:10-12, Jehovah's Organization of His GENUINE Servants existed since the days of Creation.


If it's not Jehovah's Organization, Matthew23:10-11, who will Jesus lead?

Hebrews 13:17, if it's not Jehovah's Organization, whom will be appointed to minister to members of the Group?

Just negodu , Achorladey sounding like a broken record because he loves returning to his vomit !

achorladey:
I repeat Christ didn't ask anybody to be looking for a group that spring up in the late 19th century as his GROUP. There is no scripture you can quote to support that. [/b]Na the GBEMU you dey drink.

Where is CHRIST saying look for a 19 century group in the verse up there. GBEMU GBEMU.

You are free to exercise the option to DECEIVE YOURSELF
No wahala
Christ will not look for any other group because he belongs to Jehovah's Organization which has been in existence since Creation.
Jehovah's Witnesses= Jehovah's Servants.

Maximus69:
I won't waste my time with him, if he wants to argue he should explain what Jesus meant when he said "Go and make disciples... teaching them to observe all the things i have commanded you" Matthew 28:19-20

Instead of jumping the point of discussion and clinging to what is not useful in the discussion!

He quoted the same verse but crookedly omitted the vital part that says "teaching them" which indicates a continuous follow-up after the preaching. So is it those who rejected Christianity that are to be taught continually or those who have embraced it?

Janosky:
You are free to exercise the option to DECEIVE YOURSELF
No wahala
Christ will not look for any other group because he belongs to Jehovah's Organization which has been in existence since Creation.
Jehovah's Witnesses= Jehovah's Servants.

achorladey:
since you want him to borrow questions from my post, then attend to the questions. Instead of waiting for him to borrow. After all what will be borrowed is same thing. Hahahaha

achorladey:
the same person that was asked is the ORGANIZATION that he belongs to a charity organization? He said NO! When shown that the ORGANIZATION is a charitable organization, Mr Maximus69 kept mute.

You begin to wonder why is he not aware of it. Its because they always lambast the charity works of other denominations. In essence making their members orientation towards charity work done by others as FILTHY.

Maximus69:
So Mr KNOWMORE56, any further question?

Maximus69:
Just ask the questions and wait for the answers my friend, remember you accused JWs that we often run away from your questions!

Well there are two sets of Christians according to Jesus himself, the first are the little flock {Luke 12:32} ~ Jesus will teach them how to organize his earthly subjects and prepare them for his coming Kingdom, they will rule with Jesus in heaven so since they're humans they need to be transformed into spirit beings, that's why they must have the same kind of baptism like Jesus Water and Spirit {John 3:5-6 compare with Matthew 3:13-16} This is the group Jesus will deal with directly as King and they will serve as district kings under Jesus the King of kings their number is 144,000! Revelations 7:5-8, 14:1-4, 20:4-6
According to the Revelations Jesus revealed to John that they will come first so they're the first in the arrangement before the rest that Jesus referred to as the other sheep {John 10:16} in the first century some Christians who didn't know this died due to their ignorance, they thought all Christians must be Born Again as they're seeing Jesus' brothers partaking in the eating and drinking of the emblem of covenant! 1Corinthians 11:27-30

So that's the story my guy, we have over 8.7 M followers of Christ working with the real BORN AGAIN brothers of Christ today, it's you and your cohorts that don't understand any of these secrets, that's why you're all divided amongst yourselves {Luke 11:23} and you can never be Jesus' true followers, if i should ask you now to mention the name of your church, you'll start arguing that you belong to Christ whereas there are over 41,000 different religions having contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming Christians, but it's only JWs that you are trying to argue with even when there is no agreement amongst you, all these is because you're neither humble nor obedient like true sheep! Hebrew 13:7,17

Maximus69:
You need not be offended by the truth, Jesus knew very well what will happen if Satan is let on the loose to attack his followers {Luke 18:8} that's why Jesus said "by their FRUIT you will know them" {Matthew 7:20} because Satan will gather his own agents and they will also claim Christians, since they're weeds they will outnumbered the fine seed of Jesus, the farmers and botanists will understand this better. Matthew 13:25

So why do you and your cohorts failed to realize this facts? Well it's because you people are carried away with GIFTS of the spirit instead of concentrating on the FRUIT!

There are trees in the forest that have the same or similar GIFTS, for instance a tree may have tick branches, big and shady leaves, smooth body, beautiful flowers and so on but it's FRUIT may not be edible it might even be poisonous!

Likewise all worship involves Spirits, you'll find books inspired by spirits, signs and wonders, singers and fine music, huge worship centers, beautiful paintings and designs, nice and wicked people in all religions due to the imperfect state of man, these are the GIFTS you will find in all the religions on this planet.

But what about the FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit?
Well there is just one single tree that can bear this one "the tree that's planet by the true God himself" {John 15:1} Jesus is that tree, so no matter how Satan tries to corrupt it there will always be friction because that's where the spirit of truth dwells {John 14:17} therefore the good tree can never bear routine fruit neither can the evil tree bear good fruit! Matthew 7:16-18

You'll notice that Jesus never referred to what we will use to recognize the truth as FRUITS in plural but FRUIT as in singular, the reason is because the fruit is just one but having nine tastes (qualities) LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, GENTLENESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL {Galatians 5:22-23} no human can have all these qualities because we are imperfect, but the tree (Jesus) that God planted has it all, so the GROUP that Jesus is working with {Matthew 28:20} will produce it all not individually but as an organization!

That's why the world today can see JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES Organization as if the tallest mountain that can't be hidden! Matthew 5:14-16 compare to Isaiah 2:2-4

You may be wondering why is it that we don't go about with religious titles neither do we claim i'm Born Again (even though they're in our midst) yet when it comes to the fruitage of God's Holy Spirit, 99.9% of the world's population are looking forward to JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Matthew 5:13

Maximus69:
@KNOWMORE56

Any further question?

Just know that this is not about perfection of worshipers as most people expects, it's all about OBEDIENCE to those taking the lead in the midst of God's people! Hebrew 13:7,17

Once this quality is found in anyone, God erases the person's presently state, since he/she is humble God is looking forward to what the person will become in the future, that's why Jesus could say to a condemned criminal "truly i tell you today, you will be with me in Paradise" {Luke 23:43} surely Jesus wasn't interested in what the person is in the past, neither his present state but in what he will become in the future since he's now prepared to OBEY Jesus as King {Luke 23:42 compare to Zephaniah 2:2-3}
The problem most people have with God's arrangement is the ability to humble themselves and learn what is righteosness, rather they feel it is OK as they're doing their best in what they know as good deeds {Luke 18:18-23 compare to Romans 10:2-4} whereas they don't belong to any specific religious group, indirectly they're saying "i don't need anyone to teach me how to do the will of God, i know it myself" yet they'll be here and there trying to correct others, OK how can we ascertain the standard all of us should subscribe to? After all there are thousands of religions with different doctrines, arrogant people will never find any group to present because they don't want to humble themselves under any arrangement!

achorladey:
Maximus69: indirectly they're saying I don't need anyone to teach me how to do the will of God, i know it myself"

Achorladey: I write you these things about those who are trying to mislead you. 27 And as for you, the anointing that you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to be teaching you; but the anointing from him is teaching you about all things and is true and is no lie. Just as it has taught you, remain in union with him.

So now, little children, remain in union with him, so that when he is made manifest we may have freeness of speech and not shrink away from him in shame at his presence. 29 If you know that he is righteous, you also know that everyone who practices righteousness has been born from him

Hope you can see that Maximus69 aka Jehovah and Jesus who can erase people's past and present into the future .

Christ didn't ask anybody to be looking for a group that spring up in the late 19th century as his GROUP. There is no scripture you can quote to support that. Na the GBEMU you dey drink.

Christ promise to be with his disciples throughout the ages. Matthew 28: 20.

achorladey:
Christ will not look for any GROUP


1 Corinthians 3:23 Christ belong to God.

Christ don't belong to JEHOVAH'S ORGANIZATION

You will never see a scripture that states CHRIST BELONG to JEHOVAH'S ORGANIZATION. Na the GBEMU you dey drink

KNOWMORE56:
I'm a humble learner (by the grace of God ), I want to KNOWMORE.
So, stop being ambiguous in giving answers to my questions.
What I'm saying is that, if answers to my questions are yes, say/post yes; if it is no, say/post No.

What are answers to these questions
1. Hospitality: is it to be done by sinners to Jesus' brothers for salvation?
Or hospitality should come from the saved to sinners and saints for reward?
2. If you or anyone in your group is sick or in prison, all the sinners that will pay them visit are saved (i.e their sins are forgiven them?

ochibuogwu5:
GRACE FROM JESUS CHRIST CRUCIFIED:
"I again saw under the sun that the race is not to the swift and the battle is not to the strong, and neither is bread to the wise nor riches to those of intelligence and understanding nor favor to men of ability; but time and chance overtake them all."
(Ecclesiastes 9:11)

It is only the *grace* from Jesus Christ Crucified that will position you to be at the right place and at the right time.
For every assignment, any human being must execute on this earth; there is a *consignment of grace* for you to perform such responsibility/service without trying to struggle through your human capabilities which are always insufficient resources.

Pray for grace from Jesus Christ Crucified to execute whatever assignment you have to perform on this earth *apart from your human abilities* or you will live throughout this earthly journey *struggling*
If you are offered wealth(mammon) for execution of any earthly assignment; it will kill you physically and spiritually yet you will not achieve that work.

If you seek mercy to receive grace from Jesus Christ Crucified without any material resources for a particular assignment; grace will bring all the resources and you will accomplish that assignment effortlessly.

Grace does not reduce the holiness standard of God from 100% to 99.9999% for anybody whether a Christian or non-christian; anointed/ordained Christian leaders or those who think or have been made to believe that they are less anointed Christian but grace is the help from God to enable any human being who believes in Jesus death on the Cross and resurrection to have *the capacity and life of Christ* to be able to live up to and operate in obedience to the 100% holiness standard of God effortlessly on this earth consistently and progressively till biological death or rapture of the Saints just like Jesus Christ while He lived in the human body on earth which means it is Jesus (grace and truth; John 1:14) that is living through the mortal-bodies of any genuine believer on this earth (Titus 2:11-12) yet you are still a human being with a free-will and still has emotions that recognises the enticements of sin, lust, corruption and evil but does not sin in thoughts, words or deeds.

Grace is superior to gold(money/intelligence/mammon).
Grace is the currency of Heaven
Money(mammon) is the currency of this world

"Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, *let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear*: for our God is a consuming fire" (Hebrews 12:28-29 KJV)

"For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy." (Romans 9:15-16 KJV)

"Let us therefore *come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need*."
(Hebrews 4:16 KJV)

"And the Word (Christ) became flesh, and lived among us; and we [actually] saw His glory, glory as belongs to the [One and] only begotten Son of the Father, [the Son who is truly unique, the only One of His kind, who is] *full of grace and truth (absolutely free of deception)*. 15 John testified [repeatedly] about Him and has cried out [testifying officially for the record, with validity and relevance], “This was He of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me has a higher rank than I and has priority over me, for He existed before me.’” 16 For out of *His fullness [the superabundance of His grace and truth] we have all received grace upon grace [spiritual blessing upon spiritual blessing, favor upon favor, and gift heaped upon gift*]. 17 For the Law was given through Moses, but *grace [the unearned, undeserved favor of God] and truth came through Jesus Christ*." (John 1:14-17 amp)

Grace,
Your Grace alone is all I plead for,
Grace to serve thee aright Lord Jesus Christ Crucified,
Oh Grace to love you more. Amen.
Declaring and Singing.........(praying for mercy and grace from Jesus Christ Crucified, Resurrected and Glorified should be every second prayer of a genuine believer)

Great Grace Brethren!!!

KNOWMORE56:
I so much love
'grace is the help from God to enable any human being who believes in Jesus death on the Cross and resurrection to have *the capacity and life of Christ* to be able to live up to and operate in obedience to the 100% holiness standard of God effortlessly on this earth consistently and progressively till biological death or rapture of the Saints just like Jesus Christ while He lived in the human body on earth'

KNOWMORE56:
He also says that they (FATHER SON AND HOLY GHOST) are going to live/inhabit the one who loves HIM

*. John 14:23 "KJV:Jesus answered and said unto him, IF A MAN LOVE ME, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and WE WILL COME UNTO HIM, AND MAKE OUR ABODE WITH HIM.

Note!
'IF A MAN' this is showing that it is individual matter!

Maximus69:
A humble learner doesn't dictate the tune for the one you're asking questions if truthfully you want to know, remember we're chatting on what you and i believe and the difference there of, so it's not as if you're interrogating a common criminal where you'll be dictating how he/she must respond!




(1) Jesus' brothers only needed the assistance of others as in more hands to accomplish their huge task, so those who willingly {Psalms 110:3 } offer themselves to work with them will also be helped to become clean themselves spiritually! Daniel 12:10

(2) The feeding, sickness, clothing and others mentioned @ Matthew 25:31-46 aren't to be taking literally, remember Jesus started by saying "separate the sheep from the goats" so it's not about literal hospitality but spiritual, we must understand this from the perspective of Jesus himself, remember he never gave any beggar a dime neither did go searching sick people!
When Paul was imprisoned, it was his fellow believers that were coming to visit him Sir!

KNOWMORE56:
That's true...

achorladey:
Titus 2: 11 For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people, 12 training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives in the present age, 13 waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, 14 who gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works.

15 Declare these things; exhort and rebuke with all authority. Let no one disregard you.

KNOWMORE56:
I'm not dictating the to you, I only want to clearly understand what you are saying.

Those who will offer you clothes and shoes and other things are saved i.e their sins are forgiven them for your sake?

KNOWMORE56:
Awesome grace of God!

But, are you sure someone will not post that
the grace of God means organization of Jehovah?

achorladey:
Christ will not look for any GROUP


1 Corinthians 3:23 Christ belong to God.

Christ don't belong to JEHOVAH'S ORGANIZATION

You will never see a scripture that states CHRIST BELONG to JEHOVAH'S ORGANIZATION. Na the GBEMU you dey drink

False claims.
Does Achorladey belong to his biological father ?
Is Achorladey a member of his Father's family?
Is his Father's family a Group?

MUMU KNOWMORES no know say family Na
Organization
Achorladey and KNOWMORE, continue to DECEIVE YOURSELVES & console YOURSELVES