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DCLM Daily Manna: Between Law And Love – Pastor Kumuyi by ChristianFeeds: 7:24am On Aug 18, 2020
It is amazing how people have allowed the strict observance of the law to make them miss connection with God and other people. The Pharisees and the Jewish leaders allowed themselves to become so blinded by the letters of the law to the loss of their human feelings and kindness towards others. They prefer to watch people die if helping them will amount to breaking of the law.

Jesus in our text was present in their synagogue on a Sabbath day and seeing this poor woman who was in need, He could not hold back reaching out to her. In His love for humanity, He reached out to heal her of her eighteen years’ infirmity. The ruler of the synagogue was however infuriated by this. He preferred that she remained in her bondage than getting healed on a Sabbath day. Jesus, however, saw into his hypocrisy and envy and rebuked him for it.

Jesus teaches that love is the fulfillment of the law. It is sad therefore to see how...

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Re: DCLM Daily Manna: Between Law And Love – Pastor Kumuyi by Kobojunkie: 7:32am On Aug 18, 2020
Peter, the apostle, warned people about ALL MOGs (False Prophets and Teachers), from about 2000 years ago.

2 Peter 2 vs 1-7 (ERV)
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1. In the past there were false prophets among God’s people. It is the same now. You will have some false teachers in your group. They will teach things that are wrong—ideas that will cause people to be lost. And they will teach in a way that will be hard for you to see that they are wrong. They will even refuse to follow the Master who bought their freedom. And so they will quickly destroy themselves.
2. Many people will follow them in the morally wrong things they do. And because of them, others will say bad things about the way of truth we follow.
3. These false teachers only want your money. So they will use you by telling you things that are not true. But the judgment against these false teachers has been ready for a long time. And they will not escape God who will destroy them.

4. When angels sinned, God did not let them go free without punishment. He sent them to hell. He put those angels in caves of darkness, where they are being held until the time when God will judge them.

5. And God punished the evil people who lived long ago. He brought a flood to the world that was full of people who were against God. But he saved Noah and seven other people with him. Noah was a man who told people about living right.

6. God also punished the evil cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. He burned them until there was nothing left but ashes. He used those cities as an example of what will happen to people who are against God.
7. But he saved Lot, a good man who lived there. Lot was greatly troubled by the morally bad lives of those evil people. 8 This good man lived with those evil people every day, and his good heart was hurt by the evil things he saw and heard.
What peter said is indeed what we see happening here and now. Because of the AntiChrists also called MOGs, the world does not view Jesus Christ in a good light at all. You simply mention that you believe in the God of the Bible, and almost immediately you see the detest in their looks... nothing to do with persecution at all. No, they have become wary of those who claim to be Christians. The world is tired of the lies and deceit of MOGs - the hypocrisy that is claimed and justified in the name of God.

These MOGs are the Antichrists as they have set themselves up as Masters over Jesus Christ's flock, pretending to be Teachers in His place.

Their doctrines and traditions are twisted representations of the teachings of Jesus Christ, and in many cases many are deceived and led away from the Truth of Jesus Christ as a result.

They sit themselves in the place of God in the minds of His own sheep and they steal, kill and destroy, for their own pleasure and kingdoms, that which God has planned for those who are His. And they do all of this in the name of God.
MOGs are the false prophets that Jesus Christ warned His followers to beware of. These are the antichrists that the apostles spoke of even during their days.
angry cheesy
Re: DCLM Daily Manna: Between Law And Love – Pastor Kumuyi by Csonice1: 8:16am On Aug 18, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Peter, the apostle, warned people about ALL MOGs (False Prophets and Teachers), from about 2000 years ago.

What peter said is indeed what we see happening here and now. Because of the AntiChrists also called MOGs, the world does not view Jesus Christ in a good light at all. You simply mention that you believe in the God of the Bible, and almost immediately you see the detest in their looks... nothing to do with persecution at all. No, they have become wary of those who claim to be Christians. The world is tired of the lies and deceit of MOGs - the hypocrisy that is claimed and justified in the name of God.

These MOGs are the Antichrists as they have set themselves up as Masters over Jesus Christ's flock, pretending to be Teachers in His place.

Their doctrines and traditions are twisted representations of the teachings of Jesus Christ, and in many cases many are deceived and led away from the Truth of Jesus Christ as a result.

They sit themselves in the place of God in the minds of His own sheep and they steal, kill and destroy, for their own pleasure and kingdoms, that which God has planned for those who are His. And they do all of this in the name of God.
MOGs are the false prophets that Jesus Christ warned His followers to beware of. These are the antichrists that the apostles spoke of even during their days.
angry cheesy
I have told you before; desist from speaking from assumptions. trial an error is good; but the injury that comes from it may not allow you to try a second time.
Some of these men you are fighting are the most humble people ever; they've touched power, understood mysteries, heard from God and yet not puffed up by it.
wait till you get the same kind of relevance and let's know what you will do with it. if you had your way on nairaland alone, you will even do more.

A city set on a hill can never be hidden, God's voice for a generation can't be ignored: no matter how humble he may be.

let me tell you something (don't be offended):
you are not preaching the gospel. you are busy fighting the Church up and down. A man who has the original is never scared of the counterfeit; a man who wails so much about the counterfeit does not have the original.
Because if you do have the original, the difference will be clear.

Jesus and the early Church didn't spend all their time speaking about false prophets and teachers (they taught it once in a while to keep the church free from ignorance but not all the time): They focused more on God's Word and His power. They had the original. They didn't magnify the power of the enemy above that of God: whosoever you set before your eyes always, whosoever you preach all the time is magnified in your sight.

Now, let me tell you about peter:
Peter became so filled with power that they laid down sick people at the side of the road, so that his shadow could at least touch them and they were healed. How about Paul who gave out aprons to heal the sick. None of these men sought to be worshipped; they only performed their obligation as the ambassadors of Christ.

we are not ignorant of the devices of the enemy.
therefore,
obtain the original and you can spot the fake. every time.
Re: DCLM Daily Manna: Between Law And Love – Pastor Kumuyi by Dtruthspeaker: 9:02am On Aug 18, 2020
Csonice1:

I have told you before; desist from speaking from assumptions. trial an error is good; but the injury that comes from it may not allow you to try a second time.
Some of these men you are fighting are the most humble people ever; they've touched power, understood mysteries, heard from God and yet not puffed up by it.
wait till you get the same kind of relevance and let's know what you will do with it. if you had your way on nairaland alone, you will even do more.

A city set on a hill can never be hidden, God's voice for a generation can't be ignored: no matter how humble he may be.

let me tell you something (don't be offended):
you are not preaching the gospel. you are busy fighting the Church up and down. A man who has the original is never scared of the counterfeit; a man who wails so much about the counterfeit does not have the original.
Because if you do have the original, the difference will be clear.

Jesus and the early Church didn't spend all their time speaking about false prophets and teachers (they taught it once in a while to keep the church free from ignorance but not all the time): They focused more on God's Word and His power. They had the original. They didn't magnify the power of the enemy above that of God: whosoever you set before your eyes always, whosoever you preach all the time is magnified in your sight.

Now, let me tell you about peter:
Peter became so filled with power that they laid down sick people at the side of the road, so that his shadow could at least touch them and they were healed. How about Paul who gave out aprons to heal the sick. None of these men sought to be worshipped; they only performed their obligation as the ambassadors of Christ.

we are not ignorant of the devices of the enemy.
therefore,
obtain the original and you can spot the fake. every time.

grin oh, Sweet!
Csonice1:

let me tell you something (don't be offended):
you are not preaching the gospel. you are busy fighting the Church up and down. A man who has the original is never scared of the counterfeit; a man who wails so much about the counterfeit does not have the original.
Because if you do have the original, the difference will be clear.
Mm, mm, mm, Yummy!! I love it! grin

The guy is greatly afflicted and I think that it is because he foolishly followed and listen to them taking in everything they said all jollof rice, plate and spoon, he is Now A Very Bitter Person, Firing out of control like a lunatic.
Re: DCLM Daily Manna: Between Law And Love – Pastor Kumuyi by Csonice1: 9:13am On Aug 18, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


grin oh, Sweet!

Mm, mm, mm, Yummy!! I love it! grin

The guy is greatly afflicted and I think that it is because he foolishly followed and listen to them taking in everything they said all jollof rice, plate and spoon, he is Now A Very Bitter Person, Firing out of control like a lunatic.
Honestly.
Re: DCLM Daily Manna: Between Law And Love – Pastor Kumuyi by Dtruthspeaker: 9:23am On Aug 18, 2020
Csonice1:

Honestly.

And his views, very disgusting, one time, it is okay even perfect at another time, you want to catch his shit and shove it back into his soul and rip his tongue out so he never speaks again

Typical case of blowing hot and cold!

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Re: DCLM Daily Manna: Between Law And Love – Pastor Kumuyi by Kobojunkie: 2:15pm On Aug 18, 2020
Csonice1:
I have told you before; desist from speaking from assumptions. trial an error is good; but the injury that comes from it may not allow you to try a second time.
Some of these men you are fighting are the most humble people ever; they've touched power, understood mysteries, heard from God and yet not puffed up by it.
wait till you get the same kind of relevance and let's know what you will do with it. if you had your way on nairaland alone, you will even do more.

A city set on a hill can never be hidden, God's voice for a generation can't be ignored: no matter how humble he may be.
Jesus Christ warned against exactly all you have listed above of your knowleged of these men

Matthew 7 vs 15-23 (ERV)
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15. “Be careful of false prophets. They come to you and look gentle like sheep. But they are really dangerous like wolves.
16. You will know these people because of what they do. Good things don’t come from people who are bad, just as grapes don’t come from thornbushes, and figs don’t come from thorny weeds.
17. In the same way, every good tree produces good fruit, and bad trees produce bad fruit.
18. A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot produce good fruit.
19. Every tree that does not produce good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
20. You will know these false people by what they do.[a]

21. “Not everyone who calls me Lord will enter God’s kingdom. The only people who will enter are those who do what my Father in heaven wants.
22. On that last Day many will call me Lord. They will say, ‘Lord, Lord, by the power of your name we spoke for God. And by your name we forced out demons and did many miracles.’
23. Then I will tell those people clearly, ‘Get away from me, you people who do wrong. I never knew you.’
Csonice1:
let me tell you something (don't be offended):
you are not preaching the gospel. you are busy fighting the Church up and down. A man who has the original is never scared of the counterfeit; a man who wails so much about the counterfeit does not have the original.
Because if you do have the original, the difference will be clear.
Jesus Christ pushed back against the MOGs(Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes etc.) of His days too
Csonice1:
Jesus and the early Church didn't spend all their time speaking about false prophets and teachers (they taught it once in a while to keep the church free from ignorance but not all the time): They focused more on God's Word and His power. They had the original. They didn't magnify the power of the enemy above that of God: whosoever you set before your eyes always, whosoever you preach all the time is magnified in your sight.
Well, I would not say I spend all my time either on it, but I do my bit on it still.

Matthew 24 vs 11-18(ERV)
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11. Many false prophets will come and cause many people to believe things that are wrong.
12. There will be so much more evil in the world that the love of most believers will grow cold.
13. But the one who remains faithful to the end will be saved.
14. And the Good News I have shared about God’s kingdom will be told throughout the world. It will be spread to every nation. Then the end will come.
15. “Daniel the prophet spoke about ‘the terrible thing that causes destruction.’[a] You will see this terrible thing standing in the holy place.” (You who read this should understand what it means.)
16. “The people in Judea at that time should run away to the mountains.
17. They should run away without wasting time to stop for anything. If they are on the roof of their house, they must not go down to get anything out of the house.
18. If they are in the field, they must not go back to get a coat.
Csonice1:
Now, let me tell you about peter:
Peter became so filled with power that they laid down sick people at the side of the road, so that his shadow could at least touch them and they were healed. How about Paul who gave out aprons to heal the sick. None of these men sought to be worshipped; they only performed their obligation as the ambassadors of Christ.we are not ignorant of the devices of the enemy. therefore, obtain the original and you can spot the fake. every time.
I am not sure what this has to do with anything. What Jesus Christ said is what Peter Himself repeated and we find that the same remains the case, even more than 2000 years later.
Re: DCLM Daily Manna: Between Law And Love – Pastor Kumuyi by Csonice1: 8:04pm On Aug 18, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ warned against exactly all you have listed above of your knowleged of these men

Jesus Christ pushed back against the MOGs(Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes etc.) of His days too
Well, I would not say I spend all my time either on it, but I do my bit on it still.

I am not sure what this has to do with anything. What Jesus Christ said is what Peter Himself repeated and we find that the same remains the case, even more than 2000 years later.

you missed the whole thing now.
So because Jesus preached against the hypocritical teachers of the law, you are now copying and pasting scriptures so that you can appear to do the same?. Hmm that's too mechanical, and too risky too. The Pharisees were reproved of hypocrisy, of not understanding the moves of God and of beign mechanical in their approach to spiritual matters; even miracles.

He who wrongly accuses the brethren can also do the same to God: for whatever you do to the least of brethren, that you do unto Christ. If you accuse a servant before his master, be very careful lest he comes to judgement with you and you are found guilty of lie.

Jesus did what he did with revelation, he could even hear their thoughts, I doubt if you have a revelation of what you are saying. He knows them more than any one else: yet He said that their teachings should be taken seriously because they sit on the seat of Moses (but their hypocrisy should not be emulated). How much more they that are seated with Christ?
If you have the original, you can always spot the fake.

Job's friends were teachers like you. They accused the wrong man with the right scriptures: and God nearly dealt with them according to their folly.

Be very careful with your trial and error method pls. God is very jealous[ and meticulous] about how you treat those who love Him. if you fear Him, you will respect His sons, a man of gross dishonour is at a great risk of God's wrath: 1refer to the encounter between Elijah and the soldiers, 2Ananias must have thought that he was being duped by God's ministers; he tempted God;and paid for that ignorance with his life.

my contribution on the thread ends here.
Re: DCLM Daily Manna: Between Law And Love – Pastor Kumuyi by Kobojunkie: 8:24pm On Aug 18, 2020
Csonice1:
you missed the whole thing now.
So because Jesus preached against the hypocritical teachers of the law, you are now copying and pasting scriptures so that you can appear to do the same?. Hmm that too mechanical, and too risky too.
Actually, doing exactly what Jesus Christ taught is exactly what He wants of His followers to do.

John 14 vs 23-24 (ERV)
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23. Jesus answered, “All who love me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them. My Father and I will come to them and live with them.
24. But anyone who does not love me does not obey my teaching. This teaching that you hear is not really mine. It is from my Father who sent me.

Csonice1:
Jesus did that with revelation, he could even hear their thoughts, I doubt if you have a revelation of what you are saying. He knows them more than any one else: yet He said that their teachings should be taken seriously because they sit on the seat of Moses (but their hypocrisy should not be emulated). How much more they that are seated with Christ?
If you have the original, you can always spot the fake.
Jesus Christ did not hide the reasons why He did what He did, and He did this so that His followers will have understanding for when it is their turn to do as He did.
His followers do not need any revelation in order to know what to do. All they need is to obey His teachings and given that they have the original, they can indeed spot the fake!
Csonice1:
Job's friends were teachers like you. They accused the wrong man with the right scriptures: and God nearly dealt with them according to their folly.
I am not a Teacher, since I teach no material of my own I simply, regurgitate that which my master has taught me.
The fault that was Job's friends was that they took it upon themselves to stand in defense of God against their friend, going as far as pretending to lie on behalf of God. Job was a man, but he was a man who had been pushed to the wall. His friends however had no right to pretend they could lie in defense of God.
Csonice1:

Be very careful with your trial and error method pls.
my contribution on the thread ends here.
I suggest you start obeying God, the one who is able to destroy your body and your soul, rather than fearing man.
Re: DCLM Daily Manna: Between Law And Love – Pastor Kumuyi by Csonice1: 9:00pm On Aug 18, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Actually, doing exactly what Jesus Christ taught is exactly what He wants of His followers to do.

Jesus Christ did not hide the reasons why He did what He did, and He did this so that His followers will have understanding for when it is their turn to do as He did.
His followers do not need any revelation in order to know what to do. All they need is to obey His teachings and given that they have the original, they can indeed spot the fake!
I am not a Teacher, since I teach no material of my own I simply, regurgitate that which my master has taught me.
The fault that was Job's friends was that they took it upon themselves to stand in defense of God against their friend, going as far as pretending to lie on behalf of God. Job was a man, but he was a man who had been pushed to the wall. His friends however had no right to pretend they could lie in defense of God.
I suggest you start obeying God, the one who is able to destroy your body and your soul, rather than fearing man.

I nearly laughed; especially at the ones in bold.

my last post has been explained better.
Shalom.
Re: DCLM Daily Manna: Between Law And Love – Pastor Kumuyi by Kobojunkie: 9:03pm On Aug 18, 2020
Csonice1:
I nearly laughed; especially at the ones in bold.
my last post has been explained better.
Shalom.
No, it hasn't ! Read the book of Job again, so you have a better understanding of what God faulted Job's friends for.
Re: DCLM Daily Manna: Between Law And Love – Pastor Kumuyi by Csonice1: 9:08pm On Aug 18, 2020
Kobojunkie:
No, it hasn't ! Read the book of Job again, so you have a better understanding of what God faulted Job's friends for.

For clarification;
you weren't wrong in that one, you described yourself.
Good night.
Re: DCLM Daily Manna: Between Law And Love – Pastor Kumuyi by Kobojunkie: 9:11pm On Aug 18, 2020
Csonice1:
For clarification;
you weren't wrong in that one, you described yourself.
Good night.
You mean you did not know that God is the one who can destroy your body and your soul?

Matthew 10 vs 28-31 (ERV)
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28. “Don’t be afraid of people. They can kill the body, but they cannot kill the soul. The only one you should fear is God, the one who can send the body and the soul to be destroyed in hell.
29. When birds are sold, two small birds cost only a penny. But not even one of those little birds can die without your Father knowing it.
30. God even knows how many hairs are on your head.
31. So don’t be afraid. You are worth more than a whole flock of birds.
Re: DCLM Daily Manna: Between Law And Love – Pastor Kumuyi by Csonice1: 9:20pm On Aug 18, 2020
Kobojunkie:
You mean you did not know that God is the one who can destroy your body and your soul?

I am amazed at your understanding:
Of course, He is the only one who has that ability and I Obey Him,truly speaking; I fear Him even above a garrison of armies:
He is my FATHER. what you said is just like saying to a man on suit: " Go and get dressed"
(humbly speaking)

I thought you need the fear of the Lord in your life: you will see things from His standpoint.

Now, about Job's friends, the part in bold is just a replica of who I know you to be.. they spoke for God against one who they thought was impure, but he was a good man; beloved in God's sight: they quoted accusing scriptures; which Job himself knew too. They accused the wrong man with the right scriptures: do well to read the book of Job again.
pls ( I've gone even beyond what my patience permits), good night.
Re: DCLM Daily Manna: Between Law And Love – Pastor Kumuyi by Kobojunkie: 9:30pm On Aug 18, 2020
Csonice1:
I am amazed at your understanding:
Of course, He is the only one who has that ability and I Obey Him truly speaking, I fear Him even above a garrison of armies:
He is my FATHER. what you said is just like saying to a man on suit: " Go and get dressed"
I thought you need the fear of the Lord in your life: you will see things from His standpoint.Now, about Job's friends, the part in bold is just a replica of who I know you to be..
pls ( I've gone even beyond what my patience permits), good night.
Oh, you meant I lie on behalf of God? Interesting, yet you have yet to point out a single one of those LIES I have told in the name of God? Are you sure that God is really your Father there?
Well, since we are here on this case. What lie have I told on behalf of God in this particular case then?

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