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Re: Lauretta Onochie To Oyedepo Over Rejection Of CAMA: Build Your Own Country by stickle(m): 8:11am On Aug 18, 2020
WhisperedNoise:

You're suffering from one of two things:
Either you are ignorant OR
You just choose to talk without concrete facts and evidence.

From time immemorial, B. Oyedepo has been one of the people speaking against the insecurity and killings going on in this country. Do your research and stop displaying half baked knowledge on a public forum.

Kind regards.
God bless you, they can't silience everybody. God will keep protecting him.
He has warned them, if they like let them listen

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Re: Lauretta Onochie To Oyedepo Over Rejection Of CAMA: Build Your Own Country by farem: 8:17am On Aug 18, 2020
ERockson:
This woman is carrying curses. It is wrong of any Christian to be aiding and abetting any anti Christian government policy with obvious ulterior motive. This woman and her likes should keep quiet if they can't call the government to order because of what they eat or steal from government

Why is she a Christian, is it because of her name or tribes?
A lot of antichrists and violent witches are erroneously being seen as Christians
Re: Lauretta Onochie To Oyedepo Over Rejection Of CAMA: Build Your Own Country by farem: 8:20am On Aug 18, 2020
Ikeast:
Oga Oyedepo upon all the christians killed in Southern Kaduna,
U didn't condenm it..

U are interested in reopening church Coz tithe and offering issagoal........

Selective blindness and deafness are features of many who are opposed to what the church stand for. Unfortunately, these lots do stand as if they are fighting for the church.
The only thing Oyedepo hasn't done on Bandits and Christian killers is to pick up arms by himself.
Re: Lauretta Onochie To Oyedepo Over Rejection Of CAMA: Build Your Own Country by farem: 8:21am On Aug 18, 2020
Samunique:
U still dey blame Yoruba when the lady in question here is your igbo sister ? undecided

Being an hypocrite is shameful demonic !

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Re: Lauretta Onochie To Oyedepo Over Rejection Of CAMA: Build Your Own Country by authority2006(m): 8:36am On Aug 18, 2020
malele:
My Yoruba Broda’s see una change.
Chaiiiii

Is this not a good development for Nigeria too? Why calling on Yoruba who voted for change? His church is regulated in UK and he didn't cry, why crying in Nigeria? Are we truly Banana Republic?
Re: Lauretta Onochie To Oyedepo Over Rejection Of CAMA: Build Your Own Country by authority2006(m): 8:38am On Aug 18, 2020
ERockson:
This woman is carrying curses. It is wrong of any Christian to be aiding and abetting any anti Christian government policy with obvious ulterior motive. This woman and her likes should keep quiet if they can't call the government to order because of what they eat or steal from government

Lol. She's carrying curses because she told the billionaire pastor to comply with the law in Nigeria just like he did in UK? Clowns everywhere
Re: Lauretta Onochie To Oyedepo Over Rejection Of CAMA: Build Your Own Country by akdjr(m): 8:38am On Aug 18, 2020
What is anti Christian in Government enacting laws to regulate the activities of religion? The same country has a law that everyone is free to practice his/her religion and also made it compulsory to register a church under Nigeria law and no one including the clergyman trying to refute government intention. The same church he claim to be God whatever on Earth was build with approval from Government and why must he seek approval from Government if he so believe that his church is above the government laws cos it belong to God. I have worship in his church severally and also lodge there but there are things that u don't just have to support him for cos he's human and not free from some unguarded utterance. I was in the church when Jonathan came there during when he was seeking reelection and I was shocked when he said Christian's should vote for Christian and that God told him Jonathan will emerge as the winner cos God told him so. Religion is dividing humanity.
ERockson:
This woman is carrying curses. It is wrong of any Christian to be aiding and abetting any anti Christian government policy with obvious ulterior motive. This woman and her likes should keep quiet if they can't call the government to order because of what they eat or steal from government
Re: Lauretta Onochie To Oyedepo Over Rejection Of CAMA: Build Your Own Country by authority2006(m): 8:39am On Aug 18, 2020
SIONKPO1:

who says churches don't pay tax
(Annual returns)?
You are too ignorant,

Then, why the wailing?
Re: Lauretta Onochie To Oyedepo Over Rejection Of CAMA: Build Your Own Country by farem: 8:43am On Aug 18, 2020
Tomide007:

Lol. That's why I was bothered when early Christians fled during persecution, shouldn't they have obeyed that scripture and converted to Judaism?

Carrying a bible, or taking part in any Christian related activity is illegal in Somalia, I think Christians there should obey that scripture and covert to Islam, that way they can obey the law of the land. How smart do you sound now.....No scripture stands on its own.....the argument here is not about tax.

Why are you replying the useful idiots or the bewitched-insiders? It's those who lack anything and everything call Jesus (except their traditional denomination and geographical affinity) that always stand for what the Church stand for.
Re: Lauretta Onochie To Oyedepo Over Rejection Of CAMA: Build Your Own Country by ForestDion: 9:21am On Aug 18, 2020
I have had this feeling that this woman always wait until there is a man on her, pumping, that is when she comment on public matters. I have never encounter a meaningful and public officer comment from her.
Re: Lauretta Onochie To Oyedepo Over Rejection Of CAMA: Build Your Own Country by Iykenuwa(m): 9:21am On Aug 18, 2020
Like Napoleon Bonaparte said, the Church of Christ is an anvil that has worn out many hammers.

The gates of hell shall not prevail.
Re: Lauretta Onochie To Oyedepo Over Rejection Of CAMA: Build Your Own Country by Nobody: 9:28am On Aug 18, 2020
Dickeyrider:



It's because you have been brainwashed and your brain is in their pockets. If the topic was about an imam that rapes a minor or a pastor that defiled a young boy in the anus you probably won't mind your business. Better emancipate yourself from religious slavery. Oyedepo and all other God of men will die one day and be buried like you and i. They are humans. They treat malaria and other common sicknesses like every human. They eat everyday to survive. They have armed body guards disguised as ushers surrounding them on their pulpits when preaching their panya. They even use face masks and hand sanitizers to avoid dying from covik1-9 birus
Fact.

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Re: Lauretta Onochie To Oyedepo Over Rejection Of CAMA: Build Your Own Country by Dogogo1900: 9:32am On Aug 18, 2020
IamHeWrites:
Lauretta Onochie social media aide of President Muhammadu Buhari has criticised the presiding bishop of Living Faith Church Worldwide David Oyedepo over his disapproval of the Company and Allied Matters Acts (CAMA) being applied in churches, Igbere TV reports.

Oyedepo had told his congregants on Sunday that the “church is God’s heritage on earth” and that it works “on the pattern delivered by God not the pattern of man.”

However, reacting to his statement on Monday, Mrs Onochie in a brief statement made available to IGBERE TV the popular cleric would have to create his own country where he can live by his own laws.



https://mobile.twitter.com/Laurestar/status/1295270703382564864



https://mobile.twitter.com/Laurestar/status/1295403974204493824
Re: Lauretta Onochie To Oyedepo Over Rejection Of CAMA: Build Your Own Country by Dogogo1900: 9:33am On Aug 18, 2020
This Okoro woman is always talking rubbish.
Re: Lauretta Onochie To Oyedepo Over Rejection Of CAMA: Build Your Own Country by precious1967(m): 9:47am On Aug 18, 2020
the road path to dictatorship and 666. God will defeat this lucifer.
Re: Lauretta Onochie To Oyedepo Over Rejection Of CAMA: Build Your Own Country by vecman22(m): 9:50am On Aug 18, 2020
WhisperedNoise:

You're suffering from one of two things:
Either you are ignorant OR
You just choose to talk without concrete facts and evidence.

From time immemorial, B. Oyedepo has been one of the people speaking against the insecurity and killings going on in this country. Do your research and stop displaying half baked knowledge on a public forum.

Kind regards.

This is a big lie..prior to 2015 show us a link where oyedepo spoke about the killings in Nigeria.we all kwn why his speaking up now...
Re: Lauretta Onochie To Oyedepo Over Rejection Of CAMA: Build Your Own Country by fantastic1: 9:53am On Aug 18, 2020
Shut up. One of the loudest voice against killings in this country is Oyedepo. Look for another thing to criticize him about.
Ikeast:
Oga Oyedepo upon all the christians killed in Southern Kaduna,
U didn't condenm it..

U are interested in reopening church Coz tithe and offering issagoal........
Re: Lauretta Onochie To Oyedepo Over Rejection Of CAMA: Build Your Own Country by WhisperedNoise: 9:56am On Aug 18, 2020
vecman22:


This is a big lie..prior to 2015 show us a link where oyedepo spoke about the killings in Nigeria.we all kwn why his speaking up now...
You lot can NEVER be satisfied. Never.
Humor Me, please...why is he speaking up now?
Re: Lauretta Onochie To Oyedepo Over Rejection Of CAMA: Build Your Own Country by TheOgaBoss: 10:01am On Aug 18, 2020
authority2006:


Is this not a good development for Nigeria too? Why calling on Yoruba who voted for change? His church is regulated in UK and he didn't cry, why crying in Nigeria? Are we truly Banana Republic?
because the uk govt can be trusted to be civil and law abiding, but this is Nigeria where people are invited by dss just for criticising the govt and some persons are incacerated for months because they dared to protest against the govt. The govt faced with more serious security and economic challenges would rather divert energy towards lesser issues rather than tackling insecurity head on strikes a sinister chord.

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Re: Lauretta Onochie To Oyedepo Over Rejection Of CAMA: Build Your Own Country by mandarin: 10:11am On Aug 18, 2020
Churches cannot pay taxes because churches are funded by voluntary donations from members i.e. tithes and offerings. Members of the church are also citizens who have paid taxes at different levels and it will amount to multiple taxation if i have to pay government a part of my income which I deemed to be given to God, its a faith offering and because I don't share same faith with millions of others for instance who don't even want my church in their domain, they cannot be benefiting from my own offering to a God we don't share and this is why I believe taxes from brewery products such as beer should not go to states that do not share in the freedom of drinking beer. its either hypocritical or morally insane.

Churches are registered as Not for Profit, nothing is wrong with churches submitting their financials for accountability purpose but any clause that gives government power to appoint trustee for the church is a BAD as it signifies a covert intention for government to take over churches and other religious groups but I feel its the church that is the target.

The Bishop's position that Nigeria is our collective country is true and let me just advise politicians running in 2023, I believe most Christians will side with him on this issue and vote out against any politician that will not stand for the amendment of that law. Remember the corporate governance law that started it all but was shelved and cleverly inserted into CAMA one way or the other. Why must Nigeria share the same law with the UK? All the traditional altars that politicians go and all the monies they spend there, who gives the financial reports of that? who gives the financial reports of all the Islamic ceremonies like naming etc? The target is the church obviously and this will backfire certainly should the church rally around this in 2023. It will resonate soundly!!!

For Lawretta Onochie, she will pay for her utterance when she will need the church. God is watching.

To all those who complain about pastors holding the church as personal property, what exactly do you want? Your politicians use private jets, you are not holding them to be accountable, except for church members, if you don't contribute to a church you have no right to complain about the church's expenses! To those who complained about pastors riding fancy cars, some also complained when Jesus Christ rode a mule.Many pastors also have businesses that fetch them good money and they pay taxes on them so what are you really looking for? A poor church or poor Christians? The Bible didn't say Christians or churches should be poor because God is not poor, He has a city of gold.

Churches are some of the largest employer of labor in this country e.g RCCG, Winners, Christ Embassy just name it. They also contribute to intellectual and community developments having educational institutions, hospitals etc. I will advise Southerners especially Christians to weigh the impacts of the church on their lives and society and imagine if government has to run those churches through their proxies in the name of trustees!

This is a gift from God to us and we must appreciate it because you don't know the value of what you have until you lose it. I don't think church leaders were part of the enactment of a law that is not in the interest of the church because church members are Nigerians. THE VOTE WILL TALK and I hope people are reading between the lines
Re: Lauretta Onochie To Oyedepo Over Rejection Of CAMA: Build Your Own Country by vecman22(m): 10:33am On Aug 18, 2020
WhisperedNoise:

You lot can NEVER be satisfied. Never.
Humor Me, please...why is he speaking up now?

I asked a question,did he speak before 2015 or there was no killing going on in the country then?
Re: Lauretta Onochie To Oyedepo Over Rejection Of CAMA: Build Your Own Country by authority2006(m): 10:39am On Aug 18, 2020
TheOgaBoss:
because the uk govt can be trusted to be civil and law abiding, but this is Nigeria where people are invited by dss just for criticising the govt and some persons are incacerated for months because they dared to protest against the govt. The govt faced with more serious security and economic challenges would rather divert energy towards lesser issues rather than tackling insecurity head on strikes a sinister chord.

There is freedom of association and speech in Nigeria to a large extent. Our problem is that we don't know when our freedom start to constitute security threats. Imagine calling and protesting for revolution, self determination and all that craps which can easily snowball into chaos, crisis.
Back to the topic, let us all abide by the law so that it can get better. It doesn't make sense when you surrendered to law and scrutiny in UK but screaming to heaven in Nigeria and threatening fire and brimstone
Re: Lauretta Onochie To Oyedepo Over Rejection Of CAMA: Build Your Own Country by BreconHills(m): 10:58am On Aug 18, 2020
ERockson:
This woman is carrying curses. It is wrong of any Christian to be aiding and abetting any anti Christian government policy with obvious ulterior motive. This woman and her likes should keep quiet if they can't call the government to order because of what they eat or steal from government

Jesus paid the temple tax. Who are you following Jesus or Oyedepo? Nothing compels a fellowship to register under CAMA apart from corporate identity, perpetual succession and no tax status. It is entirely possible to have an unregistered church If it will not open a bank account in it's name or if it trusts it's elders to hold using a bank account. The greatest lure is tax-free status and if you come under government regulations for cover they have a right to regulate you.

Church is not a legal structure, it is people coming together anywhere.

We have done home church for over seven years and we are not registered. We don't take collections of any type including tithe, we only raise money for the needs of the brethren as and when needed. Its transparent and clear. If our meeting doesnt outlast our lives in our lication, its fine, we have sown seeds. It is the apeing of corporate culture and bigness fallacy that affects what now passes as a church.

Lauretta has said nothing wrong, even if her speech was unnecessary.

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Re: Lauretta Onochie To Oyedepo Over Rejection Of CAMA: Build Your Own Country by mentored: 11:07am On Aug 18, 2020
gaetano:
Lol! They will take over churches. Buhari has brought change indeed grin




weldone RCCG


small crumb of figure head vp

una rush ordain demons pastors


I fear what will happen when daddy G.O goes home
Re: Lauretta Onochie To Oyedepo Over Rejection Of CAMA: Build Your Own Country by AMvanquish: 12:02pm On Aug 18, 2020
gaetano:
Lol! They will take over churches. Buhari has brought change indeed grin

They will call it the next step in Islamisation.
Re: Lauretta Onochie To Oyedepo Over Rejection Of CAMA: Build Your Own Country by laytoshtwo: 12:29pm On Aug 18, 2020
gaetano:
Lol! They will take over churches. Buhari has brought change indeed grin

.Late take over the universites before mumus wake up������
Re: Lauretta Onochie To Oyedepo Over Rejection Of CAMA: Build Your Own Country by ComeAndobo: 12:45pm On Aug 18, 2020
Ikeast:
Oga Oyedepo upon all the christians killed in Southern Kaduna,
U didn't condenm it..

U are interested in reopening church Coz tithe and offering issagoal........

Red herring fallacy.
Re: Lauretta Onochie To Oyedepo Over Rejection Of CAMA: Build Your Own Country by malele(m): 12:51pm On Aug 18, 2020
Samunique:
U still dey blame Yoruba when the lady in question here is your igbo sister ? undecided

Being an hypocrite is shameful !

When did Benue become Igbo ? While na una change put the law in place
Re: Lauretta Onochie To Oyedepo Over Rejection Of CAMA: Build Your Own Country by Switch07(m): 1:15pm On Aug 18, 2020
legba1:
If truly these same church's pays tax and files financial report with foreign governments where their churches operates, then why can't they do same here... Let's leave emotions out of this debates....

Because they don't trust the system here most especially th North since they occupy most government institutions they can use that against the church
Re: Lauretta Onochie To Oyedepo Over Rejection Of CAMA: Build Your Own Country by JADEK01(m): 1:33pm On Aug 18, 2020
Ikeast:
Oga Oyedepo upon all the christians killed in Southern Kaduna,
U didn't condenm it..

U are interested in reopening church Coz tithe and offering issagoal........
he did
Maybe u didn’t notice
Re: Lauretta Onochie To Oyedepo Over Rejection Of CAMA: Build Your Own Country by Dalby(m): 6:05pm On Aug 18, 2020
lexy2014:


Is CAC in charge of collecting tax in Nigeria?

Hmmmm

The Corporate Affairs Commission (CAC) of Nigeria was established in 1990 vide Companies and Allied Matters Act no 1 (CAMA) 1990[1] as amended, now on Act cap C20 Laws of federation of Nigeria.[2] It is an autonomous body charged with the responsibility to regulate the formation and management of companies in Nigeria. It carry out its functions through accredited members of Association of National Accountants of Nigeria, Institute of Chartered Accountants of Nigeria, Institute of Chartered Secretaries and Administrators of Nigeria (ICSAN) and the Nigerian Bar Association (NBA). It is headed by a Registrar-General. Prior to the enactment of CAMA, these activities were carried on under the Companies Act 1968. (CA 1948)[3

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