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achorladey:
Maximus69: When they were still following Jesus up and down during their training, the decisions they're making could be challenged by their Christian brothers because the Master has not done the commissioning yet. But from the day of Pentecost whatever the body of Apostles decided upon after praying whether right o or wrong whoever stands to contradict such decision is stand against heaven itself so neither Jehovah nor Jesus will look upon such a rebel with eyes of favour!

Achorladey: Another chance wind of teaching @ the bolded. Jehovah and Jesus support BINDING of people in the wrong way Where you take see that one?

Maximus69: Remember their decision to eradicate poverty in their midst, they were thinking it's not proper for some Christians to be too rich when others are so poor. So they began selling what they had and bringing the money together to share everything equally. Well that decision was a complete blunder because Jesus had warned them that "there will always be poor ones amongst them" {Mark 14:7} so they should care for such ones NOT thinking of how to enrich them materially speaking.

Achorladey: I have listened to you repeatedly about the apostles committing blunder about the Ananias and Saphhira matter. Oga Maximus69 account for the blunder as contained in the Scripture or It becomes of you too have grown into the stature of equally tossing others with chance wind of teaching like your leaders.

Maximus69: But despite making such a wrong decision, Ananias and his wife Sapphira died because they were not loyal the to the Governing Body that God's only begotten Son (Jesus) commissioned!

Achorladey: Show me wrong decision in that account . This your chance wind of teaching comes under the scrutiny.

Maximus69: So my friend, that's why i keep hammering on the point that IDENTIFYING the GROUP Jesus is using really matters, otherwise anybody can just worship anywhere in Jesus name and when those taking the lead err you are free to disobey them, but with Jesus i'm sorry you must be 100% loyal to the core because Jesus doesn't know you if you refuse to be loyal to those he commissioned to lead you! Matthew 7:21-23 compare to Hebrew 13:7,17


Achorladey: Had you shown where Jesus said look for a GROUP or Identify a group in Matthew and Hebrew you cited, I would have shown you indeed it is not a wind of teaching. But REALITY tells me otherwise. It is just like every other chance wind of teaching your masters serve repeatedly.

One of such wind of teaching is CALLING you the OTHER SHEEP friends of the brother's of Christ while your leaders call themselves brothers of Christ.

So how can I still be your FRIEND in the same category like those in your midst . Or are asked to harbour and keep worldly friends?

achorladey:
You go soon go use your usual phrase or words I AM THROUGH WITH YOU aka Maximus69 concerning the bold. You shouldn't forget use asked KNOWMORE56 to borrow questions from me . So how can he be my WARRIOR QUESTIONER. Usual narrative and diversionary tactics

Maximus69:
Jesus called us "other sheep" not them!
So you can do well to question Jesus on the reason why he said he has other sheep which are not of the first fold! John 10:16

Please where is KNOWMORE56?
Your warrior is knowmore asking thought provoking questions, and i don't have all the time responding to his failed criticism?

achorladey:
Maximus69: So you can do well to question Jesus on the reason why he said he has other sheep

Achorladey: why should I go and look for Jesus to question him about EVERY CHANCE WIND OF TEACHING propagated by your leaders. There is nothing to question in the first place. Its just to bring to your notice another of such wind of teaching

Maximus69:
You are surely a fast learner, because whenever i notice that you're no more efficient in your criticism i'll just take my leave! Matthew 10:13

So as you already knew, for now I'm through with you!

achorladey:
I didn't ask you to tell me what religions are false. Are you equally susceptible to all wind of teaching is what is before you? Those you called FALSE CHRISTIAN have been teaching immortality of soul and Hell fire e.t.c for like forever. Do you know how many times your teaching have changed concerning the LAST DAYS?

Do you see part of the every wind of of teaching as salvation belong to 1. Acknowledging Christ brother's, Salvation involves being associated with the ONLY ONE ORGANIZATION on earth governed and having its own government over men?

KNOWMORE56:
You have to wait till Armageddon comes to get the answers. Lol

Maximus69:
Jesus never sent us out for arguement!

So our main target is the individual who wants to know the one and only TRUE Christian group, if the motive behind your questions is to ascertain the one group belonging to the one Christ, then JWs will be there to answer your questions. But when you're not interested in pure worship rather you're just thinking of how to justify the religion you're practicing presently, of course you can't be honest in your inquiries so we'll leave you to continue arguing with those who love arguements! 1Timothy 6:4; Philippians 2:14; Colossians 2:4; Titus 3:9

Note that you can't find any religious group where there's oneness of mind as Jesus prayed for {John 17:21-23 compare to 1Corinthians 1:10} all what you'll see is individuals from so many different religions with contradicting doctrines and conflicting teachings all claiming Christians {Luke 11:23 compare to 1Corinthians 14:33,40} even you yourself can't trust the Organization you belong because you're not even sure if what they're practicing there is right or wrong, that's why you keep evading the question "what is the name of your church?"

As for myself and 8.7 millions of individuals from different races under the heavens, we will boldly and confidently answer:-

"We are Jehovah's Witnesses " Isaiah 43:10; Hebrew 12:1

KNOWMORE56:
(1)Listen, propagating the name of the church MORE THAN the name of CHRIST it's idolatry!

(2)So I don't EASILY tell somebody the name of the church I attend.

(3)This is because, only Jesus can save a sinner.

(4)It's falsehood/ to tell someone that once you join us for fellowship, you'll not be condemned during armageddon.


(5)How I take in my spiritual food is by listening to both sides of the school of thought,

(6)then I talk to God that He should guide me in the path of His truth.

(7)He has never disappoint me!

(As it is now, He had made me know/understand that the organization is full of false teachings.

(9)They have been a time pastors told me to stop reading the organization's publications, I ignored.

(10)One day they (JWs) came and gave it to me, a voice spoke to my heart immediately 'who are these people working for'.


(11)It surprises me to know that you are not Christians.

Maximus69:
You don't understand the meaning of every wind of teaching!

In ancient times sea travellers depends on the waves of the sea for faster movement and they'll concentrate on the direction they're going, so if the wind is blowing towards their destination they'll make use of it. But when the wind is blowing towards another destination they'll bring down their wind instrument!
People who can't say specifically where they are getting their spiritual food are just like lost sailors on the sea, so when you can't point to a specific source of your teaching then that makes you a subject to all kinds of wind, anywhere the wind blows! Kumuyi o! Adeboye o! Oyedepo o! Oyakilome o! Oritshejafor o! TB Joshua o! All can teach you God's word!

We are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, we only respond to the teachings from one single source "Our GOVERNING BODY" so when any other brings their teaching we tell them "NO"

KNOWMORE56:
'when any other brings their teaching we tell them NO'

In my area, I went out for evangelism, the people started asking me for name of my church,

I said no, I have not come here to tell you about Church but CHRIST!

When I noticed that many people asked the same question, I
asked what interested them with church name,

they said JWs are not welcome here.

What I'm saying is that as you are doing it to others, it's coming back to you.

My God is right when He says:

*. Matthew 7:12 "KJV:Therefore ALL THINGS WHATSOEVER YE WOULD THAT MEN SHOULD DO TO YOU, DO YE EVEN SO TO THEM: for this is the law and the prophets."

achorladey:
that Peter walked on WATER still didn't tell your IMAGINARY BOAT or SHIP or ARK is useless that's why the same peter said

Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?” 38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.”

God is calling us TO HIMSELF through WHOM? ORGANIZATION! Check again through WHOM? In what name?

Peter even hit the nail on the head CHRIST HAS SAYINGS of EVERLASTING LIFE. John 6:68 in the presence of Jesus himself.

We are not meant to remain as children at the mercy of every chance wind of teaching, and of the jockeying of men.

Maximus69:
That's why i keep asking for the group you know that is performing better than Jehovah's Witnesses!
We believe Jesus arranged a small group that he is using to feed his sheep {Matthew 24:45} so we must be obedient to them {Hebrew 13:7,17} But if you know of any group that's performing well without such arrangement please present it!

KNOWMORE56:
This error of looking for a group is deeply seated.

Look for Jesus, Maximus, LOOK FOR JESUS!

each time I see this your 'show me a better group' it makes me feel sorry for you.

*. Hebrews 12:2 "KJV: LOOKING UNTO JESUS THE AUTHOR AND FINISHER OF OUR FAITH; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God."

*. Jude 1:21 "KJV:Keep yourselves in the love of God, LOOKING FOR THE MERCY OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST UNTO ETERNAL life."


If I should talk about THE INVISIBLE CHURCH now, it's going to be another long thread.

You can use the lessons from the letters of Jesus to the seven Asian churches to uncover the
lies of the GB.

Maximus69:
A vow to worship Jehovah means to follow his ORGANIZED people, the same applies to military service Sir, a vow to serve my country in the military means obedience to those taking the lead in the Nigerian Army.
There is no way a soldier can SERVE without first being assigned to a cantonment under superior officers, failure to adhere to the orders from these superior officers means breaking of the vow.
That's why you will hear from soldiers saying "Obey the last order" this means if a Commander issue an order but his no more present then another commander under the Nigerian Army came and give another order, so far it's still the same Army of the same country, any soldier who wilfully disobeyed that last order must be fired immediately to avoid a sabotage!
That's why we have a Governing Body in Jehovah's Witnesses Organization, they conclude first before issuing the order so that all the sheep both home and abroad comply immediately (begin acting on the last order)! Act 15:28-29

Maximus69:
Please where is KNOWMORE56?

Because you said JWs will run away from questions but i want to address your questions.

The reason why i'm responding to achorladey is not because i want to convince him but to prove before all followers of this thread that he's just a rebel who is pained seeing obedient servants of God doing all things decently in an organized manner!

Please note that he's no more interested in the Jesus that he claimed to follow, rather he's bitter against a well organized setting exposing his rebellious mindset!

achorladey:
All I see is the NARRATIVE. The question is simple.......

Tell us do you not submit in the MILITARY to those taken the LEAD while you were still serving? From your narrative, YES is the answer.

In essence submitting to those you see as your leaders is not RESTRICTED to the walls of the ORGANIZATION you belong. A classroom teacher will give due submission to the headmaster. Since the headmaster is the one taken the lead. Kajiko?

Still waiting for the response to the second question........
Do you submit to them when they decide to become MUTINEERS?

AntiChristian:
Did Jesus himself ever mentioned he would die for anyone to save them from their sins?

I don't believe a God needs any son(s) to perform His duty!

KNOWMORE56:
Thanks for considering those following this thread.

Notwithstanding, my questions are still unanswered.

KNOWMORE56:
'In essence submitting to those you see as your leaders is not RESTRICTED to the walls of the ORGANIZATION you belong. A classroom teacher will give due submission to the headmaster. Since the headmaster is the one taken the lead. Kajiko?'

Maximus69, is this statement true or false?

KNOWMORE56:
But Jesus Himself said He's the son of God.

Do you believe Him?

KNOWMORE56:
But Jesus Himself said He's the son of God.

Do you believe Him?

KNOWMORE56:
'A vow to worship Jehovah means to follow his ORGANIZED people, the same applies to military service Sir,'


I noticed that the main thing that is keeping you in the organization is the VOW.

You are now afraid of it consequences at the expense of the salvation of your soul.


When I see the word SERVE in your post, I remember instantly that Jesus said if Maximus serves Him
Maximus will be honoured by the Father.

But Maximus69, like his organization, wants to do it wrongly thinking the results will be alright.

*. John 12:26 "
KJV:If any man SERVE ME, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man SERVE ME, him will my Father honour."

*. Luke 1 :74 "KJV:That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might SERVE HIM WITHOUT FEAR,

75
KJV:In HOLINESS and RIGHTEOUSNESS before him, all the days of our life.


Note:
JESUS said SERVE ME...

'if'; it's a condition given...

'any man' this means no discrimination...

'HOLINESS and RIGHTEOUSNESS' are the
unarguable features to see in a

person/church/organization that belongs to the Holy God.

Janosky:
Jesus Christ is KNOWMORE's almighty God, yet he wants to convince an unbeliever otherwise.

achorladey:
Simple question has repeatedly resulted in "if Achorladey get sense" tell is FAMILY = GOD? Is Organization = God? According to 1 Corinthians 3:23.

At least Achorladey get sense to know in 1 Corinthians 3:23 Jesus is said to belong to GOD. Not an ORGANIZATION or not to FAMILY

If you like cite 50 Bible verses. The one I need is that 1 Corinthians 3:23

Achorladey Triune pagan idols defender claims he needs 1 Corinthians 3:23, hypocrite dey console himself
You belong to your Father, you belong to his family, Jesus Christ follow dey inside the boat ni .
He forgot he told someone on this forum that Noah was saved through a Channel

Good News Translation
"Simon has just explained how God first showed his care for the Gentiles by taking from among them a people to belong to him."

Holman Christian Standard Bible
Simeon has reported how God first intervened to take from the Gentiles a people for His name"

Jesus Christ is a bonafide member of Jehovah's Organization confirm

achorladey:
Asking for group is part of the EVERY CHANCE WIND OF TEACHING even in the Matthew 24: 45 you will never see GROUP there . So tell me how is that not a case just following every chance wind of teaching.

Jesus never said look for GROUP . The apostles never said look for a GROUP

Of what relation is between Matthew 24:45 and Hebrews 13:7,17 have if not the WIND OF TEACHING you are given on daily basis.

Tell us do you not submit in the MILITARY to those taken the LEAD while you were still serving? Do you submit to them when they decide to become MUTINEERS? .

KNOWMORE56:
'when any other brings their teaching we tell them NO'

In my area, I went out for evangelism, the people started asking me for name of my church,

I said no, I have not come here to tell you about Church but CHRIST!

When I noticed that many people asked the same question, I
asked what interested them with church name,

they said JWs are not welcome here.

What I'm saying is that as you are doing it to others, it's coming back to you.

My God is right when He says:

*. Matthew 7:12 "KJV:Therefore ALL THINGS WHATSOEVER YE WOULD THAT MEN SHOULD DO TO YOU, DO YE EVEN SO TO THEM: for this is the law and the prophets."

In your heart of hearts, does "He" means triune?

.

Have you forgotten you told a Muslim one of your triune deity is a son of God?

Continue to deceive gullible folks spoon-fed with pastorpreneurs

Janosky:
In your heart of hearts, does "He" means triune?

.

Have you forgotten you told a Muslim one of your triune deity is a son of God?

Continue to deceive gullible folks spoon-fed with pastorpreneurs junk

Janosky:
John9:4, John 17:26, Acts 15:14, Ephesians 2:19. 1 Corinthians 3:23 cement am well well.

To Jehovah''s servants ,No be rocket science

Janosky:
Achorladey Triune pagan idols defender claims he needs 1 Corinthians 3:23, hypocrite dey console himself
You belong to your Father, you belong to his family, Jesus Christ follow dey inside the boat ni .
He forgot he told someone on this forum that Noah was saved through a Channel
John 9:4 ,Ephesians 2:19. Acts15:14. John 17:26
** Acts15:14
Good News Translation
"Simon has just explained how God first showed his care for the Gentiles by taking from among them a people to belong to him."

Holman Christian Standard Bible
Simeon has reported how God first intervened to take from the Gentiles a people for His name"

Jesus Christ is a bonafide member of Jehovah's Organization confirm

Maximus69:
You had 11 chances but failed to ask any further questions! Matthew 22:46

Thanks for making use of your time and data to prove that Jehovah's Witnesses don't truly run away from questions! 1Peter 3:15

Maximus69:
STORY! STORY!! STORY!!!

Please your question!