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Should I Build A Website From Scratch Or Use Wordpress?? by multibizitsgrin(m): 7:21am On Aug 26, 2020
some one told me it's easy to build a website using WordPress but it crashes a lot.
I need your advice please.
Re: Should I Build A Website From Scratch Or Use Wordpress?? by Alberta123: 7:41am On Aug 26, 2020
It depends on your needs and organization structure.

Go for wordpress If you're a startup with limited funding.

If you're making over a million naira monthly and your business relies on your online presence, hire a capable hand that can build you a scalable website.

So the choice is yours.

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Re: Should I Build A Website From Scratch Or Use Wordpress?? by bassdow: 7:49am On Aug 26, 2020
multibizitsgrin:
some one told me it's easy to build a website using WordPress but it crashes a lot.
I need your advice please.

If WordPress crashes, then there definitely is an issue somewhere.

I might not use Wordpress for everything but I have used it enough to not even believe Matt Mullenweg should he say such.

As for if you should build a custom project or use a CMS, not until you let us in on what sort of project you're looking to work on, your current experience, and your reason(s), I doubt anyOne here would be able to give you a reliable suggestion.

By the way, a developer with basic knowledge shouldn't have much issue making such a decision

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Re: Should I Build A Website From Scratch Or Use Wordpress?? by bassdow: 7:50am On Aug 26, 2020
Alberta123:
It depends on your needs and organization structure.

Go for wordpress If you're a startup with limited funding.

If you're making over a million naira monthly and your business relies on your online presence, hire a capable hand that can build you a scalable website.

So the choice is yours.


Really
Re: Should I Build A Website From Scratch Or Use Wordpress?? by Alberta123: 8:41am On Aug 26, 2020
bassdow:



Really

I don't know how to reply to this.
Re: Should I Build A Website From Scratch Or Use Wordpress?? by multibizitsgrin(m): 12:07pm On Aug 26, 2020
Alberta123:
It depends on your needs and organization structure.

Go for wordpress If you're a startup with limited funding.

If you're making over a million naira monthly and your business relies on your online presence, hire a capable hand that can build you a scalable website.

So the choice is yours.

Ok. thank you.
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Re: Should I Build A Website From Scratch Or Use Wordpress?? by multibizitsgrin(m): 12:10pm On Aug 26, 2020
bassdow:


If WordPress crashes, then there definitely is an issue somewhere.

I might not use Wordpress for everything but I have used it enough to not even believe Matt Mullenweg should he say such.

As for if you should build a custom project or use a CMS, not until you let us in on what sort of project you're looking to work on, your current experience, and your reason(s), I doubt anyOne here would be able to give you a reliable suggestion.

By the way, a developer with basic knowledge shouldn't have much issue making such a decision

i started learning web design about six months now.
the reason why I asked is because I don't know if I should use WordPress for my client or just build from scratch.

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Re: Should I Build A Website From Scratch Or Use Wordpress?? by naijasensei: 1:10pm On Aug 26, 2020
multibizitsgrin:
some one told me it's easy to build a website using WordPress but it crashes a lot.
I need your advice please.

It depends. WordPress is a Content Management System (CMS), under the hood WordPress uses HTML, CSS, JavaScript (frontend), and PHP (back end).
WordPress is easy to use, true - I don't agree with the crashes often story though - and WordPress is used by so many websites. My main grouse with WordPress is that it is not as flexible as I need it to be, also many of its plugins have security issues. WordPress is like a be all, end all system that people use for all sorts of websites.
On the other hand, learning the basics of the web, and how to build websites from scratch will give you valuable insight. If you understand the technologies used to build WordPress, customising WordPress will become easy. You will also know when you need to use something other than WordPress. Every web project will no longer look like a nail that needs to be hammered with WordPress.

My advice, you can start working with WordPress - however, try to learn about the technologies powering WordPress. Note that there is no wrong or right way, this is just my advice.
Re: Should I Build A Website From Scratch Or Use Wordpress?? by omobamatrix: 1:40pm On Aug 26, 2020
multibizitsgrin:


i started learning web design about six months now.
the reason why I asked is because I don't know if I should use WordPress for my client or just build from scratch.

Wordpress is a content management system that let you build and add alot of funtionallity to your website easily. with lots of plugins. Depending on what you might want to use the website for, wordpress is good for beginners/large projects especially if your client wouldn't want to be paying for regular updating and mentainace of a completely handcoded website
Re: Should I Build A Website From Scratch Or Use Wordpress?? by devdev: 1:47pm On Aug 26, 2020
multibizitsgrin:
some one told me it's easy to build a website using WordPress but it crashes a lot.
I need your advice please.
What languages do you code?
Re: Should I Build A Website From Scratch Or Use Wordpress?? by multibizitsgrin(m): 2:14pm On Aug 26, 2020
devdev:
What languages do you code?
I'm good in HTML and CSS. I just started Js. I feel like going crazy. learning Js without a mentor is annoying af.
Re: Should I Build A Website From Scratch Or Use Wordpress?? by devdev: 2:48pm On Aug 26, 2020
multibizitsgrin:


I'm good in HTML and CSS. I just started Js.
I feel like going crazy. learning Js without a mentor is annoying af.
If your client website requires a form, database or anything related to backend, then you wont be able to code from scratch. I advice you go with wordpress. But if itz only an info website for text and pictures then you should code from scratch
Re: Should I Build A Website From Scratch Or Use Wordpress?? by bassdow: 1:21am On Aug 27, 2020
multibizitsgrin:


I'm good in HTML and CSS. I just started Js.
I feel like going crazy. learning Js without a mentor is annoying af.

If just getting started with Javascript, I suggest you go with TypeScript. To me, it's JavaScript done right.

People see HTML and CSS as simple to learn because they aren't programming languages BUT to me, it's harder learning HTML and most especially CSS than it is to learn programming languages such as Java, Go, Python, PHP, etc.

Reason is for instance CSS is so convoluted...
Re: Should I Build A Website From Scratch Or Use Wordpress?? by bassdow: 1:49am On Aug 27, 2020
multibizitsgrin:


i started learning web design about six months now.
the reason why I asked is because I don't know if I should use WordPress for my client or just build from scratch.


Don't build your first, second, third or even Fourth custom web project using a Client's work. Better you do that for yourself as a test.

Meanwhile, No matter how hard an Application might be, it's much More difficult securing it hence reason you shouldn't be in a hurry to build a custom coded application UNTIL you have built enough hobby or Less Mission critical apps to be confident and comfortable enough selling such Skills to a client.

For now, You should rely on a CMS e.g WordPress and do everything with it.

BUT to really learn, you need be Honest with yourself and Build with it, not cobble Up a Plethorea of Plugins (other People's work) and Call it Web development.

Aspire to Build and Design more complex Web projects with as Less Plugins as You can.

Back in da days when I still use WordPress 70% of the time, I can design a very complex project with either no Plugin or just WooCommerce and on few occasions, I even tossed that away.

See eh, except you dive really deep, you might never feel the Limitations of CMSes e.g WordPress, Drupal, etc and FrameWorks e.g Codeigniter, Laravel, etc.

And not until you've gone far enough, might not even notice the Cons and ShortComings of the Language e.g PHP, Go, etc.

Most people who switched FrameWorks and/ or Languages did so mostly because they heard or read it's better, NOT because they actually hit enough snag or any at all.

So if you really ready to learn, Do more Practicing, Have more Patience, Don't put Money first (don't even put it Second sef), and be more focus.

Don't try learning everything at a Go. 6-Months isn't enough to completely learn CSS let alone HTML + CSS + JS .
It's like the Holy Books (Bible, Qu`ran, etc); you could read entire book in a week or Less BUT can't study it enough in 3-years.
It's like attending a Driving Class, after only a couple of Hours, you think you've know enough BUT as soon as you get in front of the Wheels, you're Blank.

I never actually got to formally Learn HTML and CSS, not even PHP sef YET I can write HTML and over 57% naked CSS with no external assistance / lookups using just simple Basic text Editor with no Auto Complete feature (am looking at You Windows NotePad).

Even I myself up till today can't beat my chest and say I have complete Basic knowledge of JavaScript YET I know just enough to get the Job done and when I hit a hard wall, there's Google and the rest to lean on. Never mind any developer who says they don't use Google or StackOverFlow or the likes hence never be shy of admitting you use one.

Pick a niche and work enough at getting better at it.

Don't Learn Language A, jump to Language C and tomorrow start learning about Mobile App development (probably because you heard it pays well).

So for now, Use wordPress for everything BUT to really learn, try to reinvent some wheel. Rather than download and install a Plugin to add a Contact Form Feature, you should instead try designing a contact form yourself and before you must have done it Twice, you would have known it.

Don't download and install a plugin just to add Scroll to Top, a quick Google search should lead you in the right direction.

Don't worry if you spend more time achieving less results now, those time would slowly diminish as you acquire more knowledge.

And don't allow all the latest Hypes and Vibes distract You. You would constantly see, read about or hear of the latest New Shinny but don't bother jumping onto the bandwagon to pick them up.

I myself rarely notices let a lone picks an interest in a new technology or language till after a couple of years. That way, I don't waste time learning things that might not stand the test of time.





PSS: To really really learn, I suggest you don't set any Target for yourself. Just Focus on working and you wouldn't know when You have gone so far.
And please be consistent. Don't code or design for a while, leave it for other things and come back later (even if it's just for 6-months). There's a reasons Football players hate being kept on a Bench. If you don't know, ask any footballer or Football lover.



By the way, How sure are we Am not even wasting my time typing all the above; who knows if you are een interested in doing any of the hard works sef or you would along the line start Preaching Tutorial in this or that OR start advertising Themes and Plugins for sale.

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Re: Should I Build A Website From Scratch Or Use Wordpress?? by bassdow: 1:52am On Aug 27, 2020
NairaLand should have a reliable way for people to search as Most questions already have good responses.

In a better forum or gathering, you would be penalized for asking a an existing Question or asked to use the search feature BUT here, we kinda understands how CRUDE the platform is.

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Re: Should I Build A Website From Scratch Or Use Wordpress?? by multibizitsgrin(m): 9:09am On Aug 27, 2020
bassdow:


Don't build your first, second, third or even Fourth custom web project using a Client's work. Better you do that for yourself as a test.

Meanwhile, No matter how hard an Application might be, it's much More difficult securing it hence reason you shouldn't be in a hurry to build a custom coded application UNTIL you have built enough hobby or Less Mission critical apps to be confident and comfortable enough selling such Skills to a client.

For now, You should rely on a CMS e.g WordPress and do everything with it.

BUT to really learn, you need be Honest with yourself and Build with it, not cobble Up a Plethorea of Plugins (other People's work) and Call it Web development.

Aspire to Build and Design more complex Web projects with as Less Plugins as You can.

Back in da days when I still use WordPress 70% of the time, I can design a very complex project with either no Plugin or just WooCommerce and on few occasions, I even tossed that away.

See eh, except you dive really deep, you might never feel the Limitations of CMSes e.g WordPress, Drupal, etc and FrameWorks e.g Codeigniter, Laravel, etc.

And not until you've gone far enough, might not even notice the Cons and ShortComings of the Language e.g PHP, Go, etc.

So if you really ready to learn, Do more Practicing, Have more Patience, Don't put Money first (don't even put it Second sef), and be more focus.

Don't try learning everything at a Go. 6-Months isn't enough to completely learn CSS let alone HTML + CSS + JS .

Even I myself up till today can't beat my chest and say I have complete Basic knowledge of JavaScript YET I know just enough to get the Job done and when I hit a hard wall, there's Google and the rest to lean on. Never mind any developer who says they don't use Google or StackOverFlow or the likes hence never be shy of admitting you use one.

Pick a niche and work enough at getting better at it.

Don't Learn Language A, jump to Language C and tomorrow start learning about Mobile App development (probably because you heard it pays well).

So for now, Use wordPress for everything BUT to really learn, try to reinvent some wheel. Rather than download and install a Plugin to add a Contact Form Feature, you should instead try designing a contact form yourself and before you must have done it Twice, you would have know it.

Don't download and install a plugin just to add Scroll to Top, a quick Google search should lead you in the right direction.

Don't worry if you spend more time achieving less results now, those time would slowly diminish as you acquire more knowledge.

And don't allow all the latest Hypes and Vibes distract You. You would constantly see, read about or hear of the latest New Shinny but don't bother jumping onto the bandwagon to pick them up.

I myself rarely notices let a lone picks an interest in a new technology or language till after a couple of years. That way, I don't waste time learning things that might not stand the test of time.









By the way, How sure are we Am not even wasting my time typing all the above; who knows if you are een interested in doing any of the hard works sef or you would along the line start Preaching Tutorial in this or that OR start advertising Themes and Plugins for sale.


thanks a lot. I really appreciate.
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Re: Should I Build A Website From Scratch Or Use Wordpress?? by Roadyroadie: 3:04pm On Aug 27, 2020
I would advice you use a headless CMS
Re: Should I Build A Website From Scratch Or Use Wordpress?? by sonofthunder: 6:32pm On Aug 27, 2020
bassdow:


If WordPress crashes, then there definitely is an issue somewhere.

I might not use Wordpress for everything but I have used it enough to not even believe Matt Mullenweg should he say such.

As for if you should build a custom project or use a CMS, not until you let us in on what sort of project you're looking to work on, your current experience, and your reason(s), I doubt anyOne here would be able to give you a reliable suggestion.

By the way, a developer with basic knowledge shouldn't have much issue making such a decision

Hello ma'am, is it possible/advisable to build and deploy a website with WordPress and later on move off the platform entirely without the danger of losing data or visitors?
Re: Should I Build A Website From Scratch Or Use Wordpress?? by devdev: 9:15pm On Aug 27, 2020
sonofthunder:


Hello ma'am, is it possible/advisable to build and deploy a website with WordPress and later on move off the platform entirely without the danger of losing data or visitors?
NO YOU CANNOT. Use raw languages if you want to easily move your websites
Re: Should I Build A Website From Scratch Or Use Wordpress?? by bassdow: 9:44pm On Aug 27, 2020
sonofthunder:


Hello ma'am, is it possible/advisable to build and deploy a website with WordPress and later on move off the platform entirely without the danger of losing data or visitors?

It's Very Very Possible BUT how Easy and/ or Possible + Cheap it would be depends a lot on nature of project and technical knowHow of those handling such task (migration).

It's nothing New, Lots of Projects, Apps and websites have undergone (sometimes numerous times) such phase.

As for Data Loss, as long as due diligence is followed, it never should be a concern.

As for possibility of Losing of Visitors, I don't think that's possible except of course those handling such responsibility fail playing their role rightly.


WordPress can handle any kinda Project; what would differ is Ease of Implementation together with Time to Deliver.

[s]With a little above basic Knowledge, You can use WordPress build something faster than what some FrameWorks would deliver BUT you just need know what you're doing.[/s]


PSS: Even for more complex CMS platforms e.g Magento, CS Cart, PrestaShop, etc, it's being done. In factt I myself on more than 3 occasions have Migrated WooCommerce away to Magento AND equally have even Moved PrestaShop to CS Cart.

Yea it's not a 1-day task BUT it's Very Very Possible. You even could Migrated from a FrameWork or CMS to your own Custom solution. It always has been possible.

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Re: Should I Build A Website From Scratch Or Use Wordpress?? by bassdow: 10:16pm On Aug 27, 2020
Roadyroadie:
I would advice you use a headless CMS


...but isn't this complex already for those with Advanced Knowledge ?

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Re: Should I Build A Website From Scratch Or Use Wordpress?? by Roadyroadie: 2:25am On Aug 28, 2020
bassdow:



...but isn't this complex already for those with Advanced Knowledge ?
Not exactly, anyone willing to work with full featured WordPress CMS shouldn't have a problem learning about headless CMS
Re: Should I Build A Website From Scratch Or Use Wordpress?? by Roadyroadie: 3:22pm On Dec 01, 2020
bassdow:



...but isn't this complex already for those with Advanced Knowledge ?
Not exactly sure what you mean, but headless cms isn't complex for those with advanced knowledge. Those with advanced knowledge would probably be okay writing raw queries and implementing custom solutions
Re: Should I Build A Website From Scratch Or Use Wordpress?? by Quinton45: 8:34am On Apr 14, 2022
I used it a lot for my own purposes, mainly for small sites. WP is a great blog engine that can do fantastic things and the plugins, community are also overwhelmingly great! You can customize your site the way you like and need. And that's enough for the bright side. In case you're a beginner it's better to watch some guides first on youtube or use a service like engagebranding.com.
Re: Should I Build A Website From Scratch Or Use Wordpress?? by niel63(m): 12:25pm On Apr 16, 2022
bassdow:



...but isn't this complex already for those with Advanced Knowledge ?

Good answer. smiley
Re: Should I Build A Website From Scratch Or Use Wordpress?? by niel63(m): 12:29pm On Apr 16, 2022
Roadyroadie:

Not exactly sure what you mean, but headless cms isn't complex for those with advanced knowledge. Those with advanced knowledge would probably be okay writing raw queries and implementing custom solutions

Bro... it is complex given the number of Headless clients out there. Imagine switching from sanity or blitz, then contentful, strapi and ghost cms...

Then enter client side, choosing between nextjs, gatsby, remix or CRA

You have to really know what you are doing to come up with something good since they all give you different schema definition and usage. So she is right bro! E dey complex.

Coming from a person who has experience with most of them.

I know it gets easier as you get to use them often.
Re: Should I Build A Website From Scratch Or Use Wordpress?? by evil1: 6:41pm On Apr 16, 2022
multibizitsgrin:
some one told me it's easy to build a website using WordPress but it crashes a lot.

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