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Kbs468:
Partey to fly in on the weekend to sign up for Arsenal

Even though,I'm still keeping my fingers crossed about Partey but What really happened to my arsenal.? Na on deadline day we dey sign players during Wenger era. In fact the day we signed Ozil and Sanchez were like Christmas days at that time.

mostob:
Even though,I'm still keeping my fingers crossed about Partey but What really happened to my arsenal.? Na on deadline day we dey sign players during Wenger era. In fact the day we signed Ozil and Sanchez were like Christmas days at that time.

I know this feeling. But I'm happy we are getting the Wenger days behind us. I remember that 8-2 flogging from manure, we signed I think 3 or 4 players the next day. Those days were not good times at all

BlueRayDick:


I know this feeling. But I'm happy we are getting the Wenger days behind us. I remember that 8-2 flogging from manure, we signed I think 3 or 4 players the next day. Those days were not good times at all

I'm telling you.

BlueRayDick:
If u must know, I hold a masters degree in Risk Management as such I understand fully what risk is. There is risk in every business decision one takes, so singing that there is a risk in selling Mitland-Niles to me is just raising alarm over a non-issue. What makes or mars a business is knowing which risk to take and which not to take/take and manage.

Mitland-Niles staying and ending up like Theo Walcott is a risk......Mitland Niles leaving and turning out to be a superstar is also a risk . But u have to do analysis, look at historical records and take a decision. At this point sentiments are taking off the table; u look at how well he has fared in the team vis-a-vis the oppotunities he has been handed, his potentials and also history of players like that in the past....How many of them turned out good?

If the club is putting him up for sale knowing all these things me and u may not know, I believe they know what they are doing.

I already told u those players u mentioned had limited playing time at their respective clubs before they were sold, Mitland-Niles has played well enough. He played under Wenger, Emery and now under Arteta.

Knowing that there is a risk is not the point. But hastily concluding that he cannot do better than what he has already done is it.

Go through your comments and see your subtle view. You are like let's sell AMN, we won't regret it.

If you deny this, then you win.

odizeey:
Yeah. Chat with your mates. Leeds United won the championship

I rate them higher than you shitty club.

iamoyindamola:
How many of them have blown?
Only gnarby and we won't hear word, that's how wengay kept wheelchair till he became useless.
Now West ham are blaming themselves for buying, bar gnarby tell me another of arsenal youths that have blow
If a player will be good you will surely know from his youth days, arsenal youths are the most useless abeg if you remove nketiah and saka.
Smith rowe have mad potential but the boy is lazy other club youth players are already stamping place in the squad arsenal own will be doing 'i want to play in my preferred position'

So Gnabry is not enough excuse to be cautious? The difference money wise for missing a player that blows can sponsor the academy for 3years. One player can sponsor the academy for 3years.

Spy360:
So Gnabry is not enough excuse to be cautious? The difference money wise for missing a player that blows can sponsor the academy for 3years. One player can sponsor the academy for 3years.

After gnarby who else
We are waiting

iamoyindamola:
After gnarby who else We are waiting

If I mention one more player, will you accept and apologize?

Spy360:
Knowing that there is a risk is not the point. But hastily concluding that he cannot do better than what he has already done is it.

Go through your comments and see your subtle view. You are like let's sell AMN, we won't regret it.

If you deny this, then you win.

Baba I Don tire already. Let's just accept we have different opinions on the same matter

BlueRayDick:
Baba I Don tire already. Let's just accept we have different opinions on the same matter

You lose.

Mind you it's not really a matter of opinion but of mindset or mentality.

Spy360:
I rate them higher than you shitty club.

Thank God say your opinion na just right, not law.

Spy360:
If I mention one more player, will you accept and apologize?

I'm waiting

odizeey:
Thank God say your opinion na just right, not law.

Let me salvage your dying reputation. Go and win a League cup and come back for forgiveness.

iamoyindamola:
I'm waiting

Study this list carefully though certainly not exhaustive. I am restricting it to Arsenal though I must not.

1. Andy Cole
2. Harry Kane
3. Carlos Vela
4. Sylvinho
5. Oxlade Chamberlain
6. Lasana Diara

Let me stop here.

These are young Arsenal rejects that went on to succeed. Apart from Kane and Carlos Vela who refused big move to Madrid, others won titles including UCL.

Big Think.

Spy360:
Study this list carefully though certainly not exhaustive. I am restricting it to Arsenal though I must not.

1. Andy Cole
2. Harry Kane
3. Carlos Vela
4. Sylvinho
5. Oxlade Chamberlain
6. Lasana Diara

Let me stop here.

These are young Arsenal rejects that went on to succeed. Apart from Kane and Carlos Vela who refused big move to Madrid, others won titles including UCL.

Big Think.

What are we saying what is he saying
We are talking of arsenal products
Harry kane still trophy less and left at a young age
Carlos Vela very average
Lass you mean lassana fvcking diarra
Sylvinho went to Barca for the right price
Ox still sitting on Liverpool bench
Bros apart from gnarby which other arsenal academy blow

Spy360:
Let me salvage your dying reputation. Go and win a League cup and come back for forgiveness.

Up Gayners

iamoyindamola:
What are we saying what is he saying
We are talking of arsenal products
Harry kane still trophy less and left at a young age
Carlos Vela very average
Lass you mean lassana fvcking diarra
Sylvinho went to Barca for the right price
Ox still sitting on Liverpool bench
Bros apart from gnarby which other arsenal academy blow

They were all once Arsenal players that were let go because we felt they weren't good enough.


Saying Sylvinho went for right price makes me question your thinking. Why not browse first.

The point is not even letting them go, but to acknowledge that we can make a mistake. Blueraydick saying we cannot regret selling AMN that he has past his best is despicable and totally insensitive having no atom of regard for the player.

odizeey:
Up Gunners

You're quite welcome son.

Spy360:
They were all once Arsenal players that were let go because we felt they weren't good enough.


Saying Sylvinho went for right price makes me question your thinking. Why not browse first.

The point is not even letting them go, but to acknowledge that we can make a mistake. Blueraydick saying we cannot regret selling AMN that he has past his best is despicable and totally insensitive having no atom of regard for the player.

Í agree with him AMN can only be average at best same with ox and iwobi

Spy360:
You're quite welcome son.

You gon let the scummy cry you told me to be nice to motherless Chelsea yesterday.
Practice what you preach

Spy360:
They were all once Arsenal players that were let go because we felt they weren't good enough.


Saying Sylvinho went for right price makes me question your thinking. Why not browse first.

The point is not even letting them go, but to acknowledge that we can make a mistake. Blueraydick saying we cannot regret selling AMN that he has past his best is despicable and totally insensitive having no atom of regard for the player.

Honestly u are starting to irritate me. I deliberately ignored your last post for a reason. You've been pushing words into my mouth since the beginning of this discuss. I tried as much as possible to focus on the subject matter despite your continous use words like myopic, despicable etc while responding to my posts/mentioning me.

Is it so hard for you to respect people's opinions?

If u must continue with the Mitland-niles discussion, please do well to miss my mention I already told u I'm done with that.

iamoyindamola:
Í agree with him AMN can only be average at best same with ox and iwobi

What

iamoyindamola:
You gon let the scummy cry you told me to be nice to motherless Chelsea yesterday.
Practice what you preach

Lol
Will show them scummies Big Brother love

Let's keep our differences aside and discuss Saturday's Community Shield with Liverpool.

For me, it's good it's coming in the middle of transfers so that we can easily assess our squad strength and depth.

My first 11, which I think Arteta should make a mix of experience, youth, new players and fringe players,

Saka .......... Lacazette .......... Pepe

................. Smith-Rowe................ ..

.... Xhaka.......... ............... AMN......

Tierney... Luiz.......... Saliba.. Soares

........................ Leno ........................

Subs

Aubameyang (in case things go south )
Nketiah
Willian
Nelson
Ozil
Elneny
Holding
Martinez

Spy360:
Study this list carefully though certainly not exhaustive. I am restricting it to Arsenal though I must not.

1. Andy Cole
2. Harry Kane
3. Carlos Vela
4. Sylvinho
5. Oxlade Chamberlain
6. Lasana Diara

Let me stop here.

These are young Arsenal rejects that went on to succeed. Apart from Kane and Carlos Vela who refused big move to Madrid, others won titles including UCL.

Big Think.

Lol...
This your clap back to Sod09, you no try for here at all
In fact eh, I don't want to break down your list one by one, cos either all the players are sub players or bench warmers. And don't even call me Kane sef.
Plenty things to say sha, but if I start typing, I fit type epistles. Funnily, you didn't even drop valid players sef (like kdb for Chelsea)

But one thing is certain, blueray and Sod are very correct. For every Gnabry you'll call, there are 10 wilshere which we would have sold long ago. For every gnabry we might regret selling, there are thousand of diabys we would have sold since. We need to be ruthless. R.Madrid did away with sneijder and robben, but they brought Ronaldo. No Madrid fan will regret such move.

It's even surprising that it's only you that's clamouring over gnabry. From most opinions here, nobody send am. So let's chill, it's not as if Niles is world class. As long as they reinvest the money into better signings, it's a win win for us.

Spy360:
Let's keep our differences aside and discuss Saturday's Community Shield with Liverpool.

For me, it's good it's coming in the middle of transfers so that we can easily assess our squad strength and depth.

My first 11, which I think Arteta should make a mix of experience, youth, new players and fringe players,

Saka .......... Lacazette .......... Pepe

................. Smith-Rowe................ ..

.... Xhaka.......... ............... AMN......

Tierney... Luiz.......... Saliba.. Soares

........................ Leno ........................

Subs

Aubameyang (in case things go south )
Nketiah
Willian
Nelson
Ozil
Elneny
Holding
Martinez

Fair enough

Having secured two defenders. We now have the big need for at least two midfielders. A defensive and an attacking. The later is especially if we are not sure of keeping /using Ozil.

The fact is that with this new drive for quality, we are in dire need of midfielders.

Spy360:
Let's keep our differences aside and discuss Saturday's Community Shield with Liverpool.

For me, it's good it's coming in the middle of transfers so that we can easily assess our squad strength and depth.

My first 11, which I think Arteta should make a mix of experience, youth, new players and fringe players,

Saka .......... Lacazette .......... Pepe

................. Smith-Rowe................ ..

.... Xhaka.......... ............... AMN......

Tierney... Luiz.......... Saliba.. Soares

........................ Leno ........................

Subs

Aubameyang (in case things go south )
Nketiah
Willian
Nelson
Ozil
Elneny
Holding
Martinez

is this for an upcoming friendly match or against Liverpool community shield?

Jodera:
Lol...
This your clap back to Sod09, you no try for here at all
In fact eh, I don't want to break down your list one by one, cos either all the players are sub players or bench warmers. And don't even call me Kane sef.
Plenty things to say sha, but if I start typing, I fit type epistles. Funnily, you didn't even drop valid players sef (like kdb for Chelsea)

But one thing is certain, blueray and Sod are very correct. For every Gnabry you'll call, there are 10 wilshere which we would have sold long ago. For every gnabry we might regret selling, there are thousand of diabys we would have sold since. We need to be ruthless. R.Madrid did away with sneijder and robben, but they brought Ronaldo. No Madrid fan will regret such move.

It's even surprising that it's only you that's clamouring over gnabry. From most opinions here, nobody send am. So let's chill, it's not as if Niles is world class. As long as they reinvest the money into better signings, it's a win win for us.

I think you miss my point. I am totally in for all you posted here. No arguments at all. Players come and go. Some do well some flop. Some are early risers some are late bloomers.

My point is that releasing a young prospect has an opportunity cost. It sounds familiar, but we need to acknowledge it in our discuss.

Some clubs go back to get those players, some move on. Which ever the case, there is always an acknowledgement that whenever a released player finds his stars, the club lost.

Spy360:
I think you miss my point. I am totally in for all you posted here. No arguments at all. Players come and go. Some do well some flop. Some are early risers some are late bloomers.

My point is that releasing a young prospect is an opportunity cost. It sounds familiar, but we need to acknowledge it in our discuss.

Some clubs go back to get those players, some move on. Which ever the case, there is always an acknowledgement that whenever a released player finds his stars, the club lost.

it's not necessarily true. Lukaku is shining at inter, but looking deeply, you won't say man u lost. He doesn't fit to their style of play so it's a win win for both parties.
There's high tendency that even if gnabry had stayed with us, he wouldn't reach such height he's having now. That you sell a player and he turns out good elsewhere doesn't mean you lost....


But for the rest, I think we understand ourselves then

@ Jodera

I restricted it to Arsenal so that iamoyindamola will not think it's only other clubs that make mistakes and every player Arsenal released must be useless.

For Madrid, who told you they exchanged Scnieder and Robben for Ronaldo? Even if that was the case, there was still an opportunity cost as both players went on to peak further especially Robben and could have saved Madrid in those few years of mediocrity. The luck they have is that they have enough money to replace missed alternatives/opportunities.

But like I said, these things are normal. It's a game of win and lose.

Jodera:
it's not necessarily true. Lukaku is shining at inter, but looking deeply, you won't say man u lost. He doesn't fit to their style of play so it's a win win for both parties.
There's high tendency that even if gnabry had stayed with us, he wouldn't reach such height he's having now. That you sell a player and he turns out good elsewhere doesn't mean you lost....


But for the rest, I think we understand ourselves then

Different reasons could make a club release a player like in the case of Lukaku, playing style. If Ozil leaves and turns to Messi 2.0 else where we will understand. But and but, we lost something. Yes we may have gained somehow, but we lost something.

AMN brought up the argument, releasing him as a surplus may turn out in two opposite ways, but if he blows we lose the buying club gains. It becomes an opportunity cost to us. If he flops it's our gain. It could go either way. For someone to conclude that AMN has passed his peak is being short sighted and ignorant.