₦airaland Forum

ThatFairGuy1:
Sorry, CAMA is here to stay. Only the replacement of the head should be forward to National Assembly for readjustment

Sorry for you too



Devil never won over those who stood the ground with God.
Bubu government is evil gathering and can never win over GOD and HIS people.




Take it to Bank.

Igbochief001:
I don't see any reason why church financial dealings should not be submitted to government

absolutely no reason they should be scared

I don't like that churches in Africa especially Nigeria has been monetized and turned into a one man business venture but also, one should be concerned when the government want to overreach their powers. Churches are not government departments so their financial dealings should not be the business of government unless like I said earlier, the government is giving them some money that helps them run their churches.

Based on lies


The government does not regulate churches BECAUSE of grants



Do not mislead the ignorant



ALL charities are regulated


nothing to do with being churches and ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with grants

Some may or may not get grants most DO NOT

It has nothing to do with the issue


If you are a charity you do not pay tax but you receive donations from members of the public. Therefore you must be accountable to the public.

Those who make donations to charities can claim tax relief and so charities gain at the government expense FINANCIALLY


It is natural therefore for government to scrutinize bodies that do not pay tax and which receive donations from the public to ensure PUBLIC CONFIDENCE and PUBLIC ACCOUNTABILITY.


Apart from that government is entitled to know how money is moved by ALL persons ; human or corporate for SECURITY REASONS to combat money laundering and terrorism

Why people should come out to LIE about GRANTS is bizarre

If you are a Chess Club , Boys Scout, or debating society as long as you are registered you must be accountable to the public financially

Even families now register with the CAC and they must render accounts. Their family business is not government business but if they choose to register(THEIR CHOICE) their finances becomes government business

Tranquill:
I don't like that churches in Africa especially Nigeria has been monetized and turned into a one man business venture but also, one should be concerned when the government want to overreach their powers. Churches are not government departments so their financial dealings should not be the business of government unless like I said earlier, the government is giving them some money that helps them run their churches.

Are banks government departments? Why are their financial dealings the business of government?
Are companies government departments? Why are they required to publish financial statements BY LAW??

Your logic is upside down. You are struggling to find a logical argument for what is clearly a sentimental position

There is no overrreach. If people feel so they should go to court.

The constitution is clear there is freedom of association. You do not have to register with CAC to run a church.
These same rules apply across Europe , the US and in most places where Nigerian churches operate outside Nigeria. Why is it a problem in Nigeria.

ANY ORGANIZATION that operates bank accounts must be subject to the law.

ThatFairGuy1:
Sorry, CAMA is here to stay. Only the replacement of the head should be forward to National Assembly for readjustment

CAMA has been here since 1990 it's Buharis version we must Reject

There is freedom of movement in the constitution but you need a licence to drive a car.
Government cannot stop you walking from Lagos to Ibadan but to drive a car you must get a licence.
You are free to operate a church without registering with CAC

SIONKPO1:
have you studied the CAMA law wholly?
*A section of it gives government the power to appoint anybody into the board of directors of churches,mosques and NGO
///IMAGINE,a situation where a Muslim is appointed into church board or Christians appointed into NSCIA board
FYI,Muslims will revolt, cause they mostly collect millions from Saudi and other Muslim countries for the propagation of Islam in Nigeria
Shame on Osibanjo the fake pastor and fake lawyer

But who is doing the revolting now. Very silly talk. Charcoal calling blackboard black.

SIONKPO1:
Go and study and stop spilling trash online
Churches are very Transparent with their finances

you are a lier. Politicians are using churches for corrupt money knowinfully well that nobody check the church account.

TheSERAPH:
CAMA OR NOT. The gate of hell cannot and will never prevail over the church. I bind every spirit of anti-christ in the Nigerian government

What of anti-christs on the pulpit?

KEVIND:
CAMA LAW:
FOR THOSE COMPARING THE UK GOVERNMENT WITH NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT
-Pastor Dennis Woruka Jnr
To those of you who think the Government regulates Churches in the UK and as such, the CAMA Bill in Nigeria should stand.
I am a Pastor in the UK. This means I can speak on this issue.
As a Church in the UK, you are seen as a charity. The UK government gives grants to the Church. For example, the government can give you £50k (N30 million Naira) at the end of the year based on how much your Church performed that year.
Because of this, the Government checks your finances to ensure the grants given to you are merited. This is how the UK Government regulates churches.
The CAMA Bill does not make any sense in Nigeria, because the Nigerian Government, to the best of my knowledge, does not give any form of grants to any Church in Nigeria. How do you want to regulate the finances of the Church , to the extent of changing her board, when the Church does not benefit from you, financially.
Therefore, stop comparing the UK Government with Nigeria in relation to this CAMA Bill.
I am not against the government tracking down fraud or any form of money laundering.
Please note:
My Church (Fountain of Souls Ministries Int'l UK) has never collected any form of grant from the UK Government and we do not intend to do so.

Why is a pastor in UK concerned about pastorals in Naija?

favor914:
The same scripture you are quoting says obey your Government, God in Heaven has put them there.

it's obvious u don't read or u are among those brain washed zombies no matter what this ur evil govt does it shall never stand

BabaRamota1980:
Why is a pastor in UK concerned about pastorals in Naija?

ask Muhammad the terrorist

Miracle1991:
you are a lier. Politicians are using churches for corrupt money knowinfully well that nobody check the church account.

the mosque is use to hide weapon for terrorist

aribisala0:
Are banks government departments? Why are their financial dealings the business of government?
Are companies government departments? Why are they required to publish financial statements BY LAW??

Your logic is upside down. You are struggling to find a logical argument for what is clearly a sentimental position

There is no overrreach. If people feel so they should go to court.

The constitution is clear there is freedom of association. You do not have to register with CAC to run a church.
These same rules apply across Europe , the US and in most places where Nigerian churches operate outside Nigeria. Why is it a problem in Nigeria.

ANY ORGANIZATION that operates bank accounts must be subject to the law.

don't worry very soon bullhari will pass a law that will tell u how to make love with ur wife ur children will be controlled by the govt on obeying the govt the churches pay tax n it's stops there but let me once again assure u people that supports this evil clueless govt soon all this will be over

aribisala0:
Based on lies


The government does not regulate churches BECAUSE of grants



Do not mislead the ignorant



ALL charities are regulated


nothing to do with being churches and ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with grants

Some may or may not get grants most DO NOT

It has nothing to do with the issue


If you are a charity you do not pay tax but you receive donations from members of the public. Therefore you must be accountable to the public.

Those who make donations to charities can claim tax relief and so charities gain at the government expense FINANCIALLY


It is natural therefore for government to scrutinize bodies that do not pay tax and which receive donations from the public to ensure PUBLIC CONFIDENCE and PUBLIC ACCOUNTABILITY.


Apart from that government is entitled to know how money is moved by ALL persons ; human or corporate for SECURITY REASONS to combat money laundering and terrorism

Why people should come out to LIE about GRANTS is bizarre

If you are a Chess Club , Boys Scout, or debating society as long as you are registered you must be accountable to the public financially

Even families now register with the CAC and they must render accounts. Their family business is not government business but if they choose to register(THEIR CHOICE) their finances becomes government business

who is the mosque accountable to?I don't trust bullhari nor Muslims

BabaRamota1980:
Why is a pastor in UK concerned about pastorals in Naija?

Does his name not sound Nigerian to you?

Miracle1991:
you are a lier. Politicians are using churches for corrupt money knowinfully well that nobody check the church account.

where is your fact or just normal dem say talk

Tranquill:
Does his name not sound Nigerian to you?

I dont care!!!

Tranquill:
Does his name not sound Nigerian to you?

pls don't stress urself asking that terrorist

Tranquill:
I don't like that churches in Africa especially Nigeria has been monetized and turned into a one man business venture but also, one should be concerned when the government want to overreach their powers. Churches are not government departments so their financial dealings should not be the business of government unless like I said earlier, the government is giving them some money that helps them run their churches.

lol
how is it not government business ? government can sack u from your own private company not to talk of ngo like churches

aribisala0:
Based on lies


The government does not regulate churches BECAUSE of grants



Do not mislead the ignorant



ALL charities are regulated


nothing to do with being churches and ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with grants

Some may or may not get grants most DO NOT

It has nothing to do with the issue


If you are a charity you do not pay tax but you receive donations from members of the public. Therefore you must be accountable to the public.

Those who make donations to charities can claim tax relief and so charities gain at the government expense FINANCIALLY


It is natural therefore for government to scrutinize bodies that do not pay tax and which receive donations from the public to ensure PUBLIC CONFIDENCE and PUBLIC ACCOUNTABILITY.


Apart from that government is entitled to know how money is moved by ALL persons ; human or corporate for SECURITY REASONS to combat money laundering and terrorism

Why people should come out to LIE about GRANTS is bizarre

If you are a Chess Club , Boys Scout, or debating society as long as you are registered you must be accountable to the public financially

Even families now register with the CAC and they must render accounts. Their family business is not government business but if they choose to register(THEIR CHOICE) their finances becomes government business

Good point,people should view CAMA without sentiment,and wheither the present government like it or not its tenure would expire,so the issue of clamp down aon a given religion by it is temporary

favor914:
Old Testament, the Jews were been punished for 70 years for their disobedience to Jah, he put Nebuchadnezzar there for that purpose. Jesus Christ said respect authority, if you don’t have respect for your earthly Government, how can you have respect for the Government in Heaven?

It's obvious you like twisting scriptures to suit you. Did they not respect the government of Babylon? But resisted the government and king when it came to matters affecting the Almighty God. Did God not interven? Was those evil policies not changed to the one that glorified God? At the end, was Babylon not destroyed from the face of the earth BY God's judgement? Hanan was also hanged by the intervention of God as result of plotting evil policies against his people that also respected the government of the day. Old testament but has God changed? Are those scriptures not examples for our learning of the ways of God? Government should go ahead and try it. We are watching to see the end of this CAMA.

The Nigerian FG is just lazy.

FG supports churches with fund in the US too but that fund must be separated from religious activities. You are to use it indiscriminately for charitable acts.
Most religious organs are identified as charity organs .
The FG should work with stakeholders to make CAMA more acceptable to all religious organisations.
For example, people that make donations to charitable organizations in the US enjoys tax rebate thereby making the govt lost some taxes they ought to collect. Likewise in Nig, people that donate are supposed to enjoy some sort of tax rebates. If govt monitor how much is donated and how the charity organ spend is it, it'll be able to know how to reduce taxes of certain individuals that donate to charity.
I am totally for the part that their finances should be strictly monitored. But the FG should be more creative in carrying stakeholders along

TheSERAPH:
CAMA OR NOT. The gate of hell cannot and will never prevail over the church. I bind every spirit of anti-christ in the Nigerian government

Sorry, that doesn't work

favor914:
The same scripture you are quoting says obey your Government, God in Heaven has put them there.

SIONKPO1:
Go and study and stop spilling trash online
Churches are very Transparent with their finances

STFU.....transparent MAGBUEKWEGI onu gi......


Is it the churches in Nigeria or the ones in another planet