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usbcable:
I dont know what you Barca fans smoke.

At least your eyes is now clear.

Messi wasn't leaving Barca in the first place at least not this season. No way La Liga and Barca were going to let him leave for any price and no way anybody will pay that money for him. I don't think any football fan saw that happening in the first place tbh

Adiwana:
Messi wasn't leaving Barca in the first place at least not this season. No way La Liga and Barca were going to let him leave for any price and no way anybody will pay that money for him. I don't think any football fan saw that happening in the first place tbh

what have you been reading all these days on Barca thread?

Adiwana:
I thought it was scheduled around June. Anyway,much will still not be changed. By March,the season will be practically rounding up so I don't see anything else happening

It was brought forward after the Bayern loss. There is even an attempt to initiate the vote of no confidence by one of the presidential aspirants. Should they meet the required target, it might be held this year.

Messi is not staying, he’s been held hostage!

jpmoriarti

"I feel hurt by things that I heard from people, from journalism, from people questioning my Barcelonismo.

"It also helped me to see who is who. There are many very false people.

"It hurt me when my love for this club was questioned. My love for Barca will never change."

BlueAngel444:
This Messi's speech should be a sympathic one but should be seen for what it is. A self absorbed statement. This guy focused on the "I", how he feels, what about the fans. He didn't bother about them, or consider them.

The best players in the world
Lewandoski
Neymar
KDB
Ronaldo
Messi

He will keep dropping till he is forgotten. His saving grace is that this nonsense saga came to an end within two weeks.

Messi knowing the kind of asshole he is dealing with could have told fans, public or press he would be leaving for a new challenge. This interview was always going to be a Messi self justification speech. So he is been forced to stay, or held hostage all because Bart is threatening Messi's image. Mtcheeewww

Why are you trying so hard to be relevant and rubbing Penaldo on our faces?


Try as much as you want, you can't deny the fact that Messi has accrued more media mass than anyone and trust me, if he weren't Messi ( The GOAT), Nobody would really have bothered.

Now to your other point citing his Self-centeredness, you and I know he's right to say whatever he wants anyhow he deems fit. A personal opinion is what it is, Personal. All these hogwash you're hammering on is off point.

For the records, Messi remains the best... Ahead of any one-season wonder or penalty merchant. Let that sink.

Debroslink:
Thank you so much Messi. That Bartomeu should be removed ASAP. He's worse than Rosell.

At least Rosell wasn't a pathological liar also ffs.

usbcable:
what have you been reading all these days on Barca thread?

It's normal to panick that he says he wants to leave and many even advocated for player swap+cash kind of deals but realistically he wasn't leaving

He's generating a whole lot of money for both the league and club and unless the club decides to cash in on him by swapping players or he goes through the courts. Bartomeu has said the former is not happening and absolutely nobody saw the latter happening.

He will eventually go but not this season

I wonder why some barce fans are excited that we are keeping someone against his wish??


You expect him to turn up from henceforth every match day and score goals and give assists??


Sometimes you just have to count your loss and let things go, for the past 2 season, teams without Messi and Ronaldo has been wining the ucl, this only shows that you need a team, and not necessarily a good player to win trophies and conquer the world, which is what we should be focusing on, and not begging someone to stay

Shame to bartomeu
Shame to Barcelona’s board

Sommyroy10:
But why are you pained or concerned?

Adiwana:
Lol,I see you're pained. But no worry,you will be needing extra box of tissues for that

it's not like Messi will win UCL next season or even lift la liga. This guy focused on the few faults or few fake people and ignored the mass prostest of fans that showed him love and submit. Indirectly he has looked down on his teammates. Disappointed in a massive player i used to have respect for.

a lot of clubs have done far worse in transfer than barca. Look at the teams Ronaldo has played with, if it were Messi he would have gotten Ferguson fired or removed the board in Juventus. Or staged a protest when Ronaldo's "friends" like Ozil, Maria were been sold.

FirstbornWds:
Why are you trying so hard to be relevant and rubbing Penaldo on our faces?


Try as much as you want, you can't deny the fact that Messi has accrued more media mass than anyone and trust me, if he weren't Messi ( The GOAT), Nobody would really have bothered.

Now to your other point citing his Self-centeredness, you and I know he's right to say whatever he wants anyhow he deems fit. A personal opinion is what it is, Personal. All these hogwash you're hammering on is off point.

For the records, Messi remains the best... Ahead of any one-season wonder or penalty merchant. Let that sink.

is it KDB, or Neymar you are calling one season wonder or Lewandowski that lead the 8-2 thrumping of barca under 90mins ?

BlueAngel444:
is it KDB, or Neymar you are calling one season wonder or Lewandowski that lead the 8-2 thrumping of barca under 90mins ?

A clear mind fears no accusations.

Adiwana:
Major changes?? I don't see anything changing. Bartomeu is not leaving that seat until the elections which doesn't happen until next summer when Messi's next contract expires.

The only thing that could happen is if we win the champions league and if we can get Neymar right now which honestly don't see happening. He could then be persuaded by the presidential aspirants that Bartomeu will be booted out

We only bought ourselves one season.

Like a Stage-2 Cancer patient, Barça would sure be thankful for the extra time. Hopefully, the Messiotherapy 'chemotherapy' would save the club from what seems right now like imminent death.

Bartomeu did what he had to do for the club and for the league. If you followed the developing stories, Bartomeu kept insisting he's not interested in any deal which doesn't involve Messi staying at the club, regardless of who was ready to buy him.

Bartomeu knew he'd take the blame so he quickly sacrificed someone in his stead - Abidal. Too bad everyone wanted more heads rolling.

There'd be major changes definitely. Team. Messi would get the players he wants (except Neymar). Barcelona would want to avoid another scandal like this one.

I really don't trust Koeman's coaching ability but I know things would never like they've been in the last five years at Barça. Maybe it's because we've been judging every coach with the Guardiola yardstick.

Sommyroy10:
It was brought forward after the Bayern loss. There is even an attempt to initiate the vote of no confidence by one of the presidential aspirants. Should they meet the required target, it might be held this year.

I thought the board passed a vote of no confidence on him during that board emergency meeting

I think next year is too far for any significant changes to be made. We can't make any major signings by then so...

BlueAngel444:
it's not like Messi will win UCL next season or even lift la liga. This guy focused on the few faults or few fake people and ignored the mass prostest of fans that showed him love and submit. Indirectly he has looked down on his teammates. Disappointed in a massive player i used to have respect for.

a lot of clubs have done far worse in transfer than barca. Look at the teams Ronaldo has played with, if it were Messi he would have gotten Ferguson fired or removed the board in Juventus. Or staged a protest when Ronaldo's "friends" like Ozil, Maria were been sold.

I understand but the thing is, Ronaldo doesn't have as much grit as Messi in any club.

That's why when he left Man Utd, we heard Ferguson clearly stating it that Wayne Rooney was a better player he'd prefer to have than Ronaldo. Baba even affirmed Nani as a worthy replacement even when it was obvious the latter was below par.


Come to Madrid, he wouldn't dare utter anything. He knew he was in for a personal competition with the Barcelona little man and any outrageous statement or action might lead to losing it all.

As for Juventus.... How many seasons has he even lasted there that would give him the audacity to start blowing hot? He knows his limit and he's acting accordingly. Don't pressure him.

Adiwana:
I thought the board passed a vote of no confidence on him during that board emergency meeting

I think next year is too far for any significant changes to be made. We can't make any major signings by then so...

The emergency meeting was just cleansing of the management. The vote of no confidence started when we got the infamous burofax

tesppidd:
The board and club as a whole needed a kick in the backside and Messi just delivered that.

Barca have given the world lessons on how best NOT to run a football club for the past 4 years.

Now they will sit up.

Nice observations about Koeman too. Him go calm down na.

I hope Dembele stays fit, Coutinho is back, Messi Is staying.

Very hopefully a good future awaits us.

past four years didn't you guys win the treble like 5years ago

wait is it because Zidane won 3UCL titles and 2 la liga titles that barca board is now useless or has been useless for four years or is it because Neymar left three seasons ago, was replaced with three WC LWs what exactly did barca board do (apart from being clueless in wasting money in transfer after making players rebellious to their old clubs to force the move)

disstroyy:
Like a Stage-2 Cancer patient, Barça would sure be thankful for the extra time. Hopefully, the Messiotherapy 'chemotherapy' would save the club from what seems right now like imminent death.

Bartomeu did what he had to do for the club and for the league. If you followed the developing stories, Bartomeu kept insisting he's not interested in any deal which doesn't involve Messi staying at the club, regardless of who was ready to buy him.

Bartomeu knew he'd take the blame so he quickly sacrificed someone in his stead - Abidal. Too bad everyone wanted from heads rolling.

There'd be major changes definitely. Team. Messi would get the players he wants (except Neymar). Barcelona would want to avoid another scandal like this one.

I really don't trust Koeman's coaching ability but I know things would never like they've been in the last five years at Barça. Maybe it's because we've been judging every coach with the Guardiola yardstick.

Exactly the issue. Guardiola really spoiled us.

haymekus:
I wonder why some barce fans are excited that we are keeping someone against his wish??


You expect him to turn up from henceforth every match day and score goals and give assists??


Sometimes you just have to count your loss and let things go, for the past 2 season, teams without Messi and Ronaldo has been wining the ucl, this only shows that you need a team, and not necessarily a good player to win trophies and conquer the world, which is what we should be focusing on, and not begging someone to stay

Shame to bartomeu
Shame to Barcelona’s board

Tell them!

Complete Interview Of Messi With GOAL !!!

�Lionel Messi: "I wasn't happy and I wanted to leave. I have not been allowed this in any way and I will STAY at the club so as not to get into a legal dispute. The management of the club led by Bartomeu is a disaster".

"I will continue at at Barcelona and my attitude will not change, no matter how much I have wanted to leave."

"The whole family began crying, my children did not want to leave Barcelona, nor did they want to change schools."

"But I looked further afield and I want to compete at the highest level, win titles, compete in the Champions League. You can win or lose in it, because it is very difficult, but you have to compete."

"The truth is that there is no project at this club. They just plug holes as and when things happen. I would never go for a war against the club of my life. That's why I'm staying".

"I thought and was sure that I was free to leave, the president always said that at the end of the season I could decide if I stayed or not,”

"Now they cling to the fact that I did not say it before June 10, when it turns out that on June 10 we were competing for La Liga in the middle of this awful coronavirus and this disease altered all the season."

"And this is the reason why I am going to continue in the club. Now I am going to continue in the club because the president told me that the only way to leave was to pay the €700 million (£624m/$823m) clause, and that this is impossible.”

"There was another way and it was to go to trial, I would never go to court against Barca because it is the club that I love, which gave me everything since I arrived. It is the club of my life, I have made my life here."

"Mateo is still little and he doesn't realise what it means to go somewhere else and make your life a few years elsewhere, Thiago, he is older. He heard something on TV and found out something and asked."

"He cried to me and said ‘let's not go’. I repeat that it was hard, really. It was understandable. It happened to me. It is very difficult to make a decision."

"I'll continue at Barca and my attitude won't change, no matter how much I have wanted to go. I told the club, the president, that I wanted to go. I've been telling him all year. I thought my time in Barcelona was over, sadly - I always wanted to finish my career here."

[Goal]

FirstbornWds:
I understand but the thing is, Ronaldo doesn't have as much grit as Messi in any club.

That's why when he left Man Utd, we heard Ferguson clearly stating it that Wayne Rooney was a better player he'd prefer to have than Ronaldo. Baba even affirmed Nani as a worthy replacement even when it was obvious the latter was below par.


Come to Madrid, he wouldn't dare utter anything. He knew he was in for a personal competition with the Barcelona little man and any outrageous statement or action might lead to losing it all.

As for Juventus.... How many seasons has he even lasted there that would give him the audacity to start blowing hot? He knows his limit and he's acting accordingly. Don't pressure him.

which kind tales by moonlight you dey type. Even in Portugal Ronaldo doesn't act like that, he is not that kind of person. He is Portugal's captain, has been there since he was 18. You will never read that a Portugal coach was sacked because of him. Can you think of one time Ronaldo gave Portugal FA problems even with all his social media power.

BlueAngel444:
it's not like Messi will win UCL next season or even lift la liga. This guy focused on the few faults or few fake people and ignored the mass prostest of fans that showed him love and submit. Indirectly he has looked down on his teammates. Disappointed in a massive player i used to have respect for.

a lot of clubs have done far worse in transfer than barca. Look at the teams Ronaldo has played with, if it were Messi he would have gotten Ferguson fired or removed the board in Juventus. Or staged a protest when Ronaldo's "friends" like Ozil, Maria were been sold.

If Barca play relatively well,we will win La Liga. Madrid won it last season cause of obvious reasons and that's even thanks to us having all this problems and only losing the league after the pandemic. The priority was never La Liga/Copa Del Rey.

On your point that Messi looked down on his team mates and has forgotten the fans means you are not in tune with the various issues that currently is affecting the club. These few individuals are the root cause of our issues which has ultimately been transferred to the sport on the field

Again,bad transfers are a problem too many of the current issues. Besides the issues of Madrid and Barca are way too different. We've lost Xavi,Iniesta,Neymar just like Madrid but unlike Madrid we've not replaced appropriately

As i said before,Messi is not exempted from the blame. He's the captain and very much a centre of the whole tussle. But the real blame goes out to those who makes those adminstrative decisions

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Adiwana:
I thought the board passed a vote of no confidence on him during that board emergency meeting.
I think next year is too far for any significant changes to be made. We can't make any major signings by then so...

...That's if Bartomeu's psyche holds up till then. Most people don't realize it but a very vocal and sizeable section of the Barça fanbase are ultras. Have you seen them during rival games, street parades, clashes with rival fans, and online? Vicious but somehow we escape negative media coverage.

Online, for example, no fanbase trolls harder than Barça fans. Nicknames like "Missi", "Eibarman" and the likes have never trended on social media but whether Ronaldo is playing or not, Barça fans would make "Penaldo", "Tapnaldo" and "Tap-in Merchant" trend top ten on Twitter every week that Ronaldo gets to react to it in interviews every time.

I don't think Bartomeu can survive vicious attacks from those ultras if they turn on him. I actually want to see it happen. It'd be sweet to watch.

BlueAngel444:
which kind tales by moonlight you dey type. Even in Portugal Ronaldo doesn't act like that, he is not that kind of person. He is Portugal's captain, has been there since he was 18. You will never read that a Portugal coach was sacked because of him. Can you think of one time Ronaldo gave Portugal FA problems even with all his social media power.

How about you say something about him asking for a pay rise and getting declined?


I would have loved to answer your question but you might see me as an arrogant Messi fan. Nevertheless, I might still answer.... The truth always hurt anyways.

Adiwana:
If Barca play relatively well,we will win La Liga. Madrid won it last season cause of obvious reasons and that's even thanks to us having all this problems and only losing the league after the pandemic. The priority was never La Liga/Copa Del Rey.

On your point that Messi looked down on his team mates and has forgotten the fans means you are not in tune with the various issues that currently is affecting the club. These few individuals are the root cause of our issues which has ultimately been transferred to the sport on the field

Again,bad transfers are a problem too many of the current issues. Besides the issues of Madrid and Barca are way too different. We've lost Xavi,Iniesta,Neymar just like Madrid but unlike Madrid we've not replaced appropriately

As i said before,Messi is not exempted from the blame. He's the captain and very much a centre of the whole tussle. But the real blame goes out to those who makes those adminstrative decisions

forget the delusion of appropriate replacements. Did barca buy WC players yes or no?

and who did Madrid replace? Modric was a flop in his first season, Bale has barely played a game who did Perez buy? Expensive teenagers, promoting and loaning out youth players. Your club bought two great GK to replace Valdes who did Madrid buy? You guys have bought defenders more times than Madrid has considered. Ok how about midfield, Pogba Madrid wanted where is he? What about VDB we had an agreement with? Apart from last season Madrid spent 200m+ to sign players the last time was likely when we signed James Rodriguez (who is about to join Everton for a quarter d price we bought, it was 2 or 3 seasons ago he played a season for us).

barca fans have been in a fantasy world for far to long.

disstroyy:
Like a Stage-2 Cancer patient, Barça would sure be thankful for the extra time. Hopefully, the Messiotherapy 'chemotherapy' would save the club from what seems right now like imminent death.

Bartomeu did what he had to do for the club and for the league. If you followed the developing stories, Bartomeu kept insisting he's not interested in any deal which doesn't involve Messi staying at the club, regardless of who was ready to buy him.

Bartomeu knew he'd take the blame so he quickly sacrificed someone in his stead - Abidal. Too bad everyone wanted from heads rolling.

There'd be major changes definitely. Team. Messi would get the players he wants (except Neymar). Barcelona would want to avoid another scandal like this one.

I really don't trust Koeman's coaching ability but I know things would never like they've been in the last five years at Barça. Maybe it's because we've been judging every coach with the Guardiola yardstick.

It was always going to be a disaster if he ended up leaving both from sporting and financial angles. He just gave us a soft landing which is very highly much welcomed but we're going to still lose badly cause he'll now go for free

Thing is honestly don't see much changing. Which player does he necessarily want if not Neymar?? The kind of changes the club requires at this point is not something that'll be done in 1 ,2 or 3 seasons and unless we're going to win the champions league next season which frankly doesn't happen, there is not much leverage for us to keep him with. Neymar is certainly not coming back at this point.

The thing at the end of the day is that we're losing this war. Cash out on him unpreparedly this season will see us badly hit from what I've already mentioned. Losing him next season will give us some time to adjust for his departure but we see us lose him for free.smfh

Sommyroy10:
The emergency meeting was just cleansing of the management. The vote of no confidence started when we got the infamous burofax

Ok. Either way,that election needs to be held as soon as possible

FirstbornWds:
Exactly the issue. Guardiola really spoiled us.

And I still want Guardiola back at the club. Most Barça fans still want him back. It's why Barça fans follow him around and are now Man. City fans too. Really difficult to let go of the ex who treated you best, even though the break-up was on the friendliest of terms.

Adiwana:
The thing at the end of the day is that we're losing this war. Cash out on him unpreparedly this season will see us badly hit from what I've already mentioned. Losing him next season will give us some time to adjust for his departure but we see us lose him for free.smfh

The money is the least interest for fans and the club, yet it's obvious the money is needed. Even if there's a bid for him worth a £ 1 billion, there's just this nagging realization that the club is never going to be the same without Messi. And we are too scared to face that reality. Even if he decides to play for three more years, can you really say the fans would be fully prepared then to see him go or even retire? I know I am not. And I'm not alone.

BlueAngel444:
forget the delusion of appropriate replacements. Did barca buy WC players yes or no?

and who did Madrid replace? Modric was a flop in his first season, Bale has barely played a game who did Perez buy? Expensive teenagers, promoting and loaning out youth players. Your club bought two great GK to replace Valdes who did Madrid buy? You guys have bought defenders more times than Madrid has considered. Ok how about midfield, Pogba Madrid wanted where is he? What about VDB we had an agreement with? Apart from last season Madrid spent 200m+ to sign players the last time was likely when we signed James Rodriguez (who is about to join Everton for a quarter d price we bought, it was 2 or 3 seasons ago he played a season for us).

barca fans have been in a fantasy world for far to long.

It's one thing buying world class players,it's another replacing the ones that are already there.

Barca's tiki taka depends on highly technical players. Xavi moves out for Rakitic. Iniesta moves out for Coutinho who plays in Iniesta role then is played in Neymar's role . Neymar goes out for Dembele who is in and out of the hospital. Coutinho/Neymar leaves only for Griezmann a CF/SS to be played LW. De Jong comes in,same positional play problem. Hundreds of millions spent. Only worth while replacement was the GK position which Valdes was never good in the first place

Madrid. Casillas goes for Lopez. Decent goalkeeper that was replaced by Navas. Varane comes in. Marcelo,Ramos playing at their prime. Swap deal for Kroos and Alonso. Di Maria goes for James. Casemiro goes out on loan and comea back better. Modric improves after flopping. Bale inconsistent but still delivers at the right moments. Benzema/Ronaldo all banging in goals. Ronaldo goes,in comes Hazard

Difference between the two clubs is very clear. Madrid might not be spending big but they know how to replace each player that leaves. Kroos for declining Alonso is good deal. Barca on the other hand are bringing in WC players only to play them out of position. Only Neymar/Ter Stergen are only two good signings and TSG wasn't even a wc class gk when he came and took quite some time to settle in

disstroyy:
And I still want Guardiola back at the club. Most Barça fans still want him back. It's why Barça fans follow him around and are now Man. City fans too. Really difficult to let go of the ex who treated you best, even though the break-up was on the friendliest of terms.


The money is the least interest for fans and the club, yet it's obvious the money is needed. Even if there's a bid for him worth a £ 1 billion, there's just this nagging realization that the club is never going to be the same without Messi. And we are too scared to face that reality. Even if he decides to play for three more years, can you really say the fans would be fully prepared then to see him go or even retire? I know I am not. And I'm not alone.

Yeah,I know. He's irreplaceable and a treasure. But the truth we must all come to face is that we can't offer Messi anything at this point.

So Messi even bottled his bid to leave...damn [img]https://media./images/c9270a459f34b71442955cc9f664185c/tenor.gif[/img]

Not my business but after this whole debacle it's safe to assume that he is no longer the captain...if he wears that arm band again....well nothing is beneath y'all clowns at the Boy camp

I am happy for lionel Messi because he has decided to stay. I think whether he will move next season or whether bartomeo did the right thing or not, do not really matter. "I think our only concern was the way he wanted to leave. "over 90% of Barca supporters are happy with all that LEO has done for us. However what we wanted for him was a beffiting goodbye ceremony. I was not angry that he wanted to leave, i was angry that we did not get the chance to say our final goodbye to him. I think the fans deserves that ceremony and now that we know he will be leaving next year, i think the club can now plan a final last lionel messi's match in camp nou. I think both Messi and the fans deservs that, the last match where we all cry together, chants of his name all over the stadium with all the fans putting on the number 10 jersey. This is what we want. HE has paid his dues, we fully support him but he needs to go in a ceremonial mode. "Now we will have to fight and give him a goodbye laliga trophy.