Bobonnukwu:

Your rebuttals unlike fulanimafia have mostly been emotive and devoid of measured inputs of facts. Let me posit the simple question to you as someone earlier challenged you to,

On what basis, aspects, indices (facts and figures) and metrics are the North "far better" than the SE? provide your facts through any researched contents available. It's within your prerogative to call the NBS stats fake etc, but lots of credible information from international bureaus done on Nigerias sustainability index, poverty stats etc have always highlighted how poorly the Northern states in all its geopolitical zones have fared compared to the SE. What other facts do you want to have?

Arrewa is usually emotional. He becomes unstable like a scrambled channel when any of his emotion is rattled.

Bobonnukwu:

List the areas where the North is better than the SE... lets stop all the cul-de-sacs and get down to the basics.

Honestly I think it's rather akin to flogging a dead horse because you will wield vague HDI statistics which hardly reflect the reality we see daily and is therefore unacceptable, and I will continue to emphasise the role of population which is clearly unacceptable to you as well in spite of the rationality of its argument.

However HDI aside, it is a fact that infrastructurally (Quality Roads, Bridges, Railways, Airports etc.) the East comes nowhere close to the North. I know this because I've been to both places, and very recently.

That said, I find this manhood measurement rather juvenile and vain glorious so I will rather pass.

Arrewa:
you people are ones living in denial...

You people are living in propaganda!

Give us more 5yrs with the way our people embracing education.

Una eyes go soon clear

u can come back in d next 5years to beat ur bony chest on that...

While on that, the south would've long gone on to I.T solutions in education even to primary level.

But notwithstanding, we'll love to see a highly educated populace in d north, it'll affect the nation positively.

fulanimafia:


Honestly I think it's rather akin to flogging a dead horse because you will wield vague HDI statistics which hardly reflect the reality we see daily and is therefore unacceptable, and I will continue to emphasise the role of population which is clearly unacceptable to you as well.

However HDI aside, it is a fact that infrastructurally (Quality Roads, Bridges, Railways, Airports etc.) the East comes nowhere close to the North. I know this because I've been to both places, and very recently.

That said, I find this manhood measurement rather juvenile and vain glorious so I will rather pass.

which part of the North is infrastructuraly developed than the S.East.... NE, NW or NC?

Arrewa:
I refused to follow any southern propaganda!

I believe in observation!

I have traveled when to the south east and I can feel the presence of poverty and backwardness.

The plight of the millions of poor people in the south is hidden in the perception and the belief that poverty is a northern problem.

Another emotional response, no substance of factual submissions once again, surely we can't have a intelligent conversation. I recognize there exist poverty and backwardness in the SE as is the case nationwide, but we are talking about the proportionality here... if we have to do it the number ratio way, I would easily tell you that for every 5 poor and backward situations in the East... There are probably 20 more across the North. So we are still saying the same thing in essence--which is that there's no indices you can mention where the North is better than the SE, NONE whatsoever.

Arrewa:
you people are ones living in denial...

You people are living in propaganda!

Give us more 5yrs with the way our are people embracing education.

Una eyes go soon clear

5 years? Lol.

It's already happening my friend

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theenchanter:
which part of the North is infrastructuraly developed than the S.East.... NE, NW or NC?

The North West, North Central and less the devastation of BH, the North East.

Why else are you always screaming of marginalisation and abandonment by the FG?

This is not even a matter of debate my friend as I'm an informed witness.

fulanimafia:


5 years? Lol.

It's already happening my friend

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the 5yrs is when they will start filling the heat. For now they're still living in denial

Bobonnukwu:

Another emotional response, no substance of factual submissions once again, surely we can't have a intelligent conversation. I recognize there exist poverty and backwardness in the SE as is the case nationwide, but we are talking about the proportionality here... if we have to do it the number ratio way, I would easily tell you that for every 5 poor and backward situations in the East... There are probably 20 more across the North. So we are still saying the same thing in essence--which is that there's no indices you can mention where the North is better than the SE, NONE whatsoever.

In terms of development... Kano alone is more developed than the entire south east put together.

fulanimafia:


Honestly I think it's rather akin to flogging a dead horse because you will wield vague HDI statistics which hardly reflect the reality we see daily and is therefore unacceptable, and I will continue to emphasise the role of population which is clearly unacceptable to you as well in spite of the rationality of its argument.

However HDI aside, it is a fact that infrastructurally (Quality Roads, Bridges, Railways, Airports etc.) the East comes nowhere close to the North. I know this because I've been to both places, and very recently.

That said, I find this manhood measurement rather juvenile and vain glorious so I will rather pass.

Yet your postulations don't agree with all the statistical reviews which have placed your states per geopolitically on the lowest cadre (even with all the infrastructural advantages you listed). I mean even if we have to harp about infrastructures... don't forget the North has a larger landmass, arguably enjoys more federal allocations than the SE which has since the post civil war era remained the most disadvantaged and maligned region in Nigeria when its comes to Federal investments, allocations and projects in Nigeria. This isn't some " always playing the victims" narrative , but pure and undiluted facts. Majority of the infrastructures built in the East today were carried out by the Igbos themselves, with little or no government support including our own leaders... unlike your region that has always had to rely on the center for literally everything.

Arrewa:
In terms of development... Kano alone is more developed than the entire south east put together.

Now that's a big take Ok make it easier for the sake of the conversation.... provide your facts to back up that assertion? I'm getting tired of your pointless drivels already.

fulanimafia:


The North West, North Central and less the devastation of BH, the North East.

Why else are you always screaming of marginalisation and abandonment by the FG?

This is not even a matter of debate my friend as I'm an informed witness.

You and Arrewa have been reeling out these assertions with not One single statistical proof... Are we going to go with the researched data provided by more credible bodies worldwide or what fulanimafia and Arrewa deduced as facts? honestly this is getting more tiring than I expected, abeg have a good day.

Bobonnukwu:

Now that's a big take Ok make it easier for the sake of the conversation.... provide your facts to back up that assertion? I'm getting tired of your pointless drivels already.

travel bro...

Traveling is the only fact that can help you.

Arrewa:
travel bro...

Traveling is the only fact that can help you.

Oh... so I have to merely "travel" and probably sight-see the less developed areas in the North or East to form a conclusively proven theory as to which region is poorer than the other, according to your logic? Wow... I'll surely look to make this fact-finding trips soon then.

Bobonnukwu:

Oh... so I have to merely "travel" and probably sight-see the less developed areas in the North or East to form a conclusively proven theory as to which region is poorer than the other, according to your logic? Wow... I'll surely look to make this fact-finding trips soon then.

see and observe things for yourself.

The blame should stop.

Hold your leaders accountable and I will hold mine accountable

fulanimafia:


The North West, North Central and less the devastation of BH, the North East.

Why else are you always screaming of marginalisation and abandonment by the FG?

This is not even a matter of debate my friend as I'm an informed witness.

oya, keep massaging ur ego.

Arrewa:
see and observe things for yourself.

The blame should stop.

Hold your leaders accountable and I will hold mine accountable

I agree with you, we all have the collective job of holding our leaders accountable.

Bobonnukwu:

I agree with you, we all have the collective job of holding our leaders accountable.

that's the only way to move forward

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Arrewa:
Igbos Sha!

Tomorrow someone will come to tell me that Igbos are the smartest people in Nigeria.

So for una akpu brain...HausaFulanis don't have Christians... Kanuri and Nupe don't have Christians.

The only people that have Christians in the north are the southern kaduna and some other tribes in the north central.

So you people declare north central a Christian region and decided to give them the name "middle belt" and declare all Hausa and Fulanis in the north east and north west as Muslims.

Wow!!

Let me educate you.

We have thousands of Hausa Christians.

We have thousands of fulanis Christians...

We have Hausa and fulani reverence fathers and pastors here in the north.

We have thousands of churches here in the north where Christians among us do worship.

Adamawa has large number of Christians

Taraba has large number of Christians.

Bauchi has large number of Christians.

Gombe has large number of Christians.

Borno has large number of Christians.

Kano has large number of Hausa and Fulani Christians.

Just that Muslims are always the majority in Northern Nigeria.

The only Christians in the north having problem with their Muslim counterpart are the Christians in southern kaduna and jos which is a supremacy battle.

Have you ever heard of fulanis Christians and Muslims fighting in bauchi?

Have ever heard of Hausafulani Christians and Muslims fighting in kastina?

Have you ever heard of Hausafulani Christians and Muslims fighting in Sokoto??

Have ever heard of Hausafulani Christians and Muslims fighting in kano??

That's why you igbo extremist declare all of us as Muslims

Here in kano We don't only just have Hausafulani Christians and Muslims... We also have "maguzawa" traditional worshipers! Yan Bori! We have large number of them. As long as you don't insult Islam. You are good to go.

You can even worship stone in the north we don't care.

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You this Fulani jihadist herdsmen defender.

Where did the OP mentioned Igbo?

You think you can fool all the people all the time?

Stupid jihadist

Arrewa:
travel bro...

Traveling is the only fact that can help you.

I've been to kastina and sokoto state..... On arriving in kastina, I couldn't navigate my way to d hotel easily cos I couldn't communicate with d locals easily.

They can't even speak and understand pidgin talk less of English.

theenchanter:
I've been to kastina and sokoto state..... On arriving in kastina, I couldn't navigate my way to d hotel easily cos I couldn't communicate with d local easily.

They can't even speak and understand pidgin talk less of English.

based on the people you meet.

When I visited Anambra for a burial when a very good friend of mine lost his dad...in a town called Nnobi.

We meet many Igbos that couldn't communicate in English. I went there together with my friends the person I went
Luckily I can speak igbo very well. Imagine if I don't know how to speak igbo.

And you Igbos want everybody to believe that you're all educated.

Fantasticcc:
F.ulanis are a curse to Nigeria,very useless and parasitic,they produce nothing.last time we tried to stay on our own they brought war with the help of there daddy Britain...they can't stay alone.remove middle belt from the north and watch the north die of hunger....I can't wait for Biafra to be free from animals that never prosper home and abroad.

They are cursed to the entire West and Central Africa.

They want to capture the most populous African country.
The British are behind them.
They will fail.

Arrewa:
based on the people you meet.

When I visited Anambra for a burial when a very good friend of mine lost his dad...in a town called Nnobi.

We meet many Igbos that couldn't communicate in English. I went there together with my friends the person I went
Luckily I can speak igbo very well. Imagine if I don't know how to speak igbo.

And you Igbos want everybody to believe that you're all educated.

Liar.
Nnobi is a semi Urban area.
It's nearly impossible to find anyone in busy Nnobi who doesn't at least speak and understand pidgin.
It has to be the very old women and men in the villages who would most likely have younger ones tending them who themselves can easily communicate in English or pidgin.

Stop with the stupid lies to win an argument.

Igboid:


Liar.
Nnobi is a semi Urban area.
It's nearly impossible to find anyone in busy Nnobi who doesn't at least speak and understand pidgin.
It has to be the very old women and men in the villages who would most likely have younger ones tending them who themselves can easily communicate in English or pidgin.

Stop with the stupid lies to win an argument.

keep deceiving yourself and those who haven't been there.

I meet many people there who don't understand English... Asusu igbo ka Anyi ji akapari...

Stop trying to defend when you already know the truth.

Arrewa:
based on the people you meet.

When I visited Anambra for a burial when a very good friend of mine lost his dad...in a town called Nnobi.

We meet many Igbos that couldn't communicate in English. I went there together with my friends the person I went
Luckily I can speak igbo very well. Imagine if I don't know how to speak igbo.

And you Igbos want everybody to believe that you're all educated.

even when u meet igbos that can't speak proper English, they'll still speak pidgin.... Though they usually think everyone in d east are igbos and like to converse in igbo language, and will smile and revert to English if u tell them u're not igbo.

I knew this when I went to nnaka village, ekwulobia in Anambra state too.

I'm yoruba, not igbo.

FrMbaka:


They are cursed to the entire West and Central Africa.
They want to capture the most populous African country. The British are behind them. They will fail.

exactly they will fail

Arrewa:
keep deceiving yourself and those who haven't been there.

I meet many people there who don't understand English... Asusu igbo ka Anyi ji akapari...

Stop trying to defend when you already know the truth.

You are a cheap liar.

No one in Nnobi busy and bubbling semi urban centre will not be able to speak pidgin with you.

theenchanter:
even when u meet igbos that can't speak proper English, they'll still speak pidgin.... Though they usually think everyone in d east are igbos and like to converse in igbo language, and will smile and revert to English if u tell them u're not igbo.

I knew this when I went to nnaka village, ekwulobia in Anambra state too.

I'm yoruba, not igbo.

depends on the people you meet...

You don't because of the few people you meet in kastina to judge the whole northern region.

But I must agree that academically the south is ahead of the north.

But what we want you to know is that our people are not sleeping.

Education is already taking over the north.

Believe we are going to top the south academically within a very short period of time.

Southerners no longer believe much in education unlike before... They have this slogan "school na scam" and it has already started affecting your educational foundation.

You guys better sit up!

Igboid:


You are a cheap liar.

No one in Nnobi busy and bubbling semi urban centre will not be able to speak pidgin with you.

continue deceiving yourself

Arrewa:
Igbos Sha!

Tomorrow someone will come to tell me that Igbos are the smartest people in Nigeria.

So for una akpu brain...HausaFulanis don't have Christians... Kanuri and Nupe don't have Christians.

The only people that have Christians in the north are the southern kaduna and some other tribes in the north central.

So you people declare north central a Christian region and decided to give them the name "middle belt" and declare all Hausa and Fulanis in the north east and north west as Muslims.

Wow!!

Let me educate you.

We have thousands of Hausa Christians.

We have thousands of fulanis Christians...

We have Hausa and fulani reverence fathers and pastors here in the north.

We have thousands of churches here in the north where Christians among us do worship.

Adamawa has large number of Christians

Taraba has large number of Christians.

Bauchi has large number of Christians.

Gombe has large number of Christians.

Borno has large number of Christians.

Kano has large number of Hausa and Fulani Christians.

Just that Muslims are always the majority in Northern Nigeria.

The only Christians in the north having problem with their Muslim counterpart are the Christians in southern kaduna and jos which is a supremacy battle.

Have you ever heard of fulanis Christians and Muslims fighting in bauchi?

Have ever heard of Hausafulani Christians and Muslims fighting in kastina?

Have you ever heard of Hausafulani Christians and Muslims fighting in Sokoto??

Have ever heard of Hausafulani Christians and Muslims fighting in kano??

That's why you igbo extremist declare all of us as Muslims

Here in kano We don't only just have Hausafulani Christians and Muslims... We also have "maguzawa" traditional worshipers! Yan Bori! We have large number of them. As long as you don't insult Islam. You are good to go.

You can even worship stone in the north we don't care.

this one is crying. If you like cry from today till tomorrow we will split

Arrewa:
declare your Biafra... And stop all this noise.

We are not holding any igbo man.

The last time we gave you guys quite notice.

All your governors including your elders were all kicking and wailing begging for forgiveness.

shocker alert. It not only igbo that will declare Biafra, other regions will go too. So it will remain your fucking landlocked states

Igbochief001:

Lol oga he is as Yoruba as they come I can bet my two balls on that

Even you bearing igbochief, you should change your name to Indian hemp chief.