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Re: NERC: Discos To Pay For Rejecting Electricity by Ijaya123: 9:30am On Sep 11, 2020
GamalNasser:
This is what should have been done for years now but instead Buhari was paying GENCOS for the Electricity DISCOS reject to the tune of 700 billion annually...Once Discos are forced to receive every MW wheeled their way and pay for it they will be forced to give people metres and Electricity... The Nigerian Electricity deficit persists because the govt allowed the DISCOs to sell Darkness and profit heavily off it and as long as they could get away with selling darkness there is no way they will be interested in selling Electricity ..For depth the DISCOs were rejecting an average of 75 percent of the Electricity wheeled their way annually.

The govt must be prepared to fight them because like drug dealers used to a profit they won't give up easily ...expect them to sabotage the grid soon and claim system failure caused by over supply .when that happens the DSS should immediately move and arrest all directors of operations of the DISCOS
Its like if you people never mention Buhari name, you na no go get erection.
Re: NERC: Discos To Pay For Rejecting Electricity by integrity16(m): 9:31am On Sep 11, 2020
This is a sector that is was and is being ruled by witches and wizards according to a former minister of power.
Re: NERC: Discos To Pay For Rejecting Electricity by shiwex: 9:32am On Sep 11, 2020
Nbotee:
Na by force?? Taking it means dey have to pay for it
Right way to go
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Re: NERC: Discos To Pay For Rejecting Electricity by GamalNasser: 9:37am On Sep 11, 2020
kikero:
And the discos were.distributing darkness because until last week, they were selling power at 30 naira per kWh and less, while it cost 53 naira per kWh to produce said power.

All the discos have been running at a loss since inception because we don't want to run them as private companies.

Also, in many areas, between 40-50 percent of subscribers to the discos don't pay their bills. Nationally it is 60 percent

I know Nigerians complain about darkness. But the thing is, the discos and gencos inherited a wrecked sector. And it is going to take a lot of money to fix things.

But we Nigerians want them to build our power sector for us free of charge.

Remember GSM. It used to be very expensive. Because the GSM companies had to build our whole infrastructure from scratch. Nitel was to messed up to produce backbone for basic GSM calls .

The problem I have with Nigerians and electrical power is , we refuse to acknowledge that it is expensive, and it has to be paid from our pockets.

We all paid for GSM . See where we are now
I still don't get why you think the DISCOs are running at a loss .. What's the DISCOS concern with how much a MW of Electricity produced , that's the problem of GENCOS not discos ..Are the DISCOs saying they are buying one KWH at 53naira from the Gencos ? That's a huge lie ..If anybody should be claiming a loss it's the GENCOS who sell cheap to the DISCOs and the DISCOS end up rejecting 70 percent of what is produced the Federal govt makes up for this by paying the GENCOS for every cost disparity and rejected energy .. See I have studied the system to the core and DISCOs have no valid reason for rejecting Electricity and denying people metre because the donut deliberately so they can sell darkness and make unaccountable profits ...Ask yourself why discos are hell bent that nobody must audit their books
Re: NERC: Discos To Pay For Rejecting Electricity by GamalNasser: 9:38am On Sep 11, 2020
Ijaya123:
Its like if you people never mention Buhari name, you na no go get erection.
He is the President big Nigeria and the buck stops on his table
Re: NERC: Discos To Pay For Rejecting Electricity by Ijaya123: 9:39am On Sep 11, 2020
veekid:
go and form your own distribution company

Re: NERC: Discos To Pay For Rejecting Electricity by Sweetaura: 9:40am On Sep 11, 2020
Ibedc is the worst, imagine 3 days after small rainfall no light. The area where their so called airport is located in total darkness .
Re: NERC: Discos To Pay For Rejecting Electricity by Ijaya123: 9:42am On Sep 11, 2020
GamalNasser:
He is the President big Nigeria and the buck stops on his table
In the context in which you mentioned the name, those organisations have leaderships, don’t they?
Re: NERC: Discos To Pay For Rejecting Electricity by safetyInspector(m): 9:45am On Sep 11, 2020
The are one of our major problem, if they fix or upgrade their infrastructure to meet up their customers' requirement 40% of our electricity problem will be solved.
Re: NERC: Discos To Pay For Rejecting Electricity by sylve11: 9:50am On Sep 11, 2020
ursullalinda:
Thieves.......That's why they do everything to frustrate people from prepaid meters......I'm still thinking of the right channel to pour out my anger.......because this mofo's just gave us #45000 Nepa bill.......and they care not.
Lol grin

I tire for this country matter... cool
Re: NERC: Discos To Pay For Rejecting Electricity by Nwaide01: 9:51am On Sep 11, 2020
I think what those who have the ears of the government should be asking is who have been paying for those rejected loads because to me this is where all those noises about subsidy come from.Now the government want the consumers to be paying for the electricity they didn't consume in the name of removal of subsidy,it shall be well is all I have to say.
Re: NERC: Discos To Pay For Rejecting Electricity by lykwhoishe: 9:52am On Sep 11, 2020
8 hours to clear 33kv faults, pipe dream. Who wan clear fault for night? Anyway this shows that we are at least tryna checkmate discos, more checkmates and we shld be getting it right small small.
Re: NERC: Discos To Pay For Rejecting Electricity by Nobody: 9:56am On Sep 11, 2020
kikero:
And the discos were.distributing darkness because until last week, they were selling power at 30 naira per kWh and less, while it cost 53 naira per kWh to produce said power.

All the discos have been running at a loss since inception because we don't want to run them as private companies.

Also, in many areas, between 40-50 percent of subscribers to the discos don't pay their bills. Nationally it is 60 percent

I know Nigerians complain about darkness. But the thing is, the discos and gencos inherited a wrecked sector. And it is going to take a lot of money to fix things.

But we Nigerians want them to build our power sector for us free of charge.

Remember GSM. It used to be very expensive. Because the GSM companies had to build our whole infrastructure from scratch. Nitel was to messed up to produce backbone for basic GSM calls .

The problem I have with Nigerians and electrical power is , we refuse to acknowledge that it is expensive, and it has to be paid from our pockets.

We all paid for GSM . See where we are now
Our GSM is still trash, and do you know what these bastard DISCOs do? If you ask for meter they won't give you, and even when they give you they will do some kind of voodoo that will cause it to stop counting then come with their dirty bill later, besides you are telling us to pay for expensive light when the minimum wage can't even feed a common dog. undecidedundecided you reason like a conc elite sometimes.
Re: NERC: Discos To Pay For Rejecting Electricity by Makawhizzy: 10:02am On Sep 11, 2020
Let’s assume fashola is incompetent on power, can’t they at least do business on supply of prepaid meters to everyone who needs it? Contract it out to a private investor and let everyone who need it pay for it and get it installed. That way over billing will be cut out and discos will be forced to sit up. If i don’t feel like using electricity I put the meter off and use green energy since it’s not an estimated billing but if it was I’d have put on unnecessary power consumption electronics just to justify the estimated cost of darkness.
Re: NERC: Discos To Pay For Rejecting Electricity by lordprogress: 10:13am On Sep 11, 2020
Odunolumide:
Especially BEDC . They are morons
Yes bro they are the worst they only bring the light when they want to cut it, we for Delta we dun suffer for all this people hand.
Re: NERC: Discos To Pay For Rejecting Electricity by loswhite(m): 10:13am On Sep 11, 2020
kikero:
And then there is the phenomenon of bypassing the meter

(It happens)
Technology can easy track by passing....
Re: NERC: Discos To Pay For Rejecting Electricity by Nobody: 10:21am On Sep 11, 2020
GamalNasser:
I still don't get why you think the DISCOs are running at a loss .. What's the DISCOS concern with how much a MW of Electricity produced , that's the problem of GENCOS not discos ..Are the DISCOs saying they are buying one KWH at 53naira from the Gencos ? That's a huge lie ..If anybody should be claiming a loss it's the GENCOS who sell cheap to the DISCOs and the DISCOS end up rejecting 70 percent of what is produced the Federal govt makes up for this by paying the GENCOS for every cost disparity and rejected energy .. See I have studied the system to the core and DISCOs have no valid reason for rejecting Electricity and denying people metre because the donut deliberately so they can sell darkness and make unaccountable profits ...Ask yourself why discos are hell bent that nobody must audit their books
Suggest Yyou read the PWC report on the power sector.
Re: NERC: Discos To Pay For Rejecting Electricity by Agbegbaorogboye: 10:23am On Sep 11, 2020
That's the way to go instead of just pushing any obvious inefficiency to the consumers in form of higher prices. It's only in Nigeria you see power being rejected. Yet, tariffs rise. Madness everywhere
Re: NERC: Discos To Pay For Rejecting Electricity by Agbegbaorogboye: 10:30am On Sep 11, 2020
kikero:
Well, they would make the discos more broke then

The truth is, you cannot understand Nigeria's electricity problem without first knowing that the cost of power in Nigeria is less than the production cost.

Even with this recent price increase, a lot of people are still exempted from the thing, then there are the power thieves and those who don't pay

Once you get that, and you also get that gencos have to pay for gas in dollars, not naira, and they have to source for dollars from the open market because the parsimonious CBN won't give then dollars, then you would see why NERC s idea is stark bonkers

Either we run electricity as a proper market, where discos and gencos control the price, and end this NBET illusion, or we are never going to have light 24/7

And Nigerians have to pay their power bills. The problems we have with power are compounded by the large number of people who don't pay up
I support NBET removal. But how come you always believe Discos especially are blameless just as you support oil marketers ignorantly.
Why are you supporting load rejection if data shows our load demand as 28MW and our peak generation as 8MW. What then is the justification for load rejection?
You keep yapping on cost of power. Gencos don't complain and they are the true bearers of the cost of power. It's the Discos who are simply middlemen that complain the most about what they didn't produce and can't even distribute efficiently. How do you reconcile that?
Re: NERC: Discos To Pay For Rejecting Electricity by Agbegbaorogboye: 10:32am On Sep 11, 2020
GamalNasser:
Shebi there is no subsidy again so what are you saying ? And besides the cost of generation lies with GENCOS who have been doing their jobs and not complaining so I wonder why a reseller called DISCO is worried about the cost when all they have to do is sell at a mark up
Thank you bros. I tire for the guy o.
I really don't understand where he got his own understanding of the issues from
Re: NERC: Discos To Pay For Rejecting Electricity by dalass(f): 10:33am On Sep 11, 2020
Re: NERC: Discos To Pay For Rejecting Electricity by bajosky: 10:33am On Sep 11, 2020
integrity16:
This is a sector that is was and is being ruled by witches and wizards according to a former minister of power.
The current minister of Power and Principalities FASHOLA comes to mind after promising Nigerians during Apc campaign in 2014 of fixing the Darkness issue in at last 3months tym like one president of Alcohol who promised to end Boko Haram menace under 6month claiming it is not a rocket science of which previous govt failed but he is now 6yrs in officers the worst has been seen, Confirmed and endorsed by Nigerians for the darkness witness daily and high rate of bill charged.
Re: NERC: Discos To Pay For Rejecting Electricity by Enugupikin: 10:40am On Sep 11, 2020
ursullalinda:
Lagos mainland
Ndo.. Ekpele,
Re: NERC: Discos To Pay For Rejecting Electricity by Nobody: 10:44am On Sep 11, 2020
grin
They should go to the neighboring country and take nepa bills.
May Day!!! May Day!!!!
Nigeria is crashing........
Nitah1:
Someone will see light less than seven days a month and the bill will keep climbing.



If you don't pay they removed ur ways,if you pay they will say you pay small.



But if them failed to give light nothing happens to them.

Re: NERC: Discos To Pay For Rejecting Electricity by MoxxxxO123(m): 10:44am On Sep 11, 2020
GamalNasser:
This is what should have been done for years now but instead Buhari was paying GENCOS for the Electricity DISCOS reject to the tune of 700 billion annually...Once Discos are forced to receive every MW wheeled their way and pay for it they will be forced to give people metres and Electricity... The Nigerian Electricity deficit persists because the govt allowed the DISCOs to sell Darkness and profit heavily off it and as long as they could get away with selling darkness there is no way they will be interested in selling Electricity ..For depth the DISCOs were rejecting an average of 75 percent of the Electricity wheeled their way annually.

The govt must be prepared to fight them because like drug dealers used to a profit they won't give up easily ...expect them to sabotage the grid soon and claim system failure caused by over supply .when that happens the DSS should immediately move and arrest all directors of operations of the DISCOS
on point
Re: NERC: Discos To Pay For Rejecting Electricity by Agbegbaorogboye: 10:45am On Sep 11, 2020
kikero:
And the discos were.distributing darkness because until last week, they were selling power at 30 naira per kWh and less, while it cost 53 naira per kWh to produce said power.

All the discos have been running at a loss since inception because we don't want to run them as private companies.

Also, in many areas, between 40-50 percent of subscribers to the discos don't pay their bills. Nationally it is 60 percent

I know Nigerians complain about darkness. But the thing is, the discos and gencos inherited a wrecked sector. And it is going to take a lot of money to fix things.

But we Nigerians want them to build our power sector for us free of charge.

Remember GSM. It used to be very expensive. Because the GSM companies had to build our whole infrastructure from scratch. Nitel was to messed up to produce backbone for basic GSM calls .

The problem I have with Nigerians and electrical power is , we refuse to acknowledge that it is expensive, and it has to be paid from our pockets.

We all paid for GSM . See where we are now
Are DISCOs building infrastructure from scratch? What about states and LGs that supply transformers FOC to Discos like we have in Kebbi.
What about REA who supplies transformers and cables to rural areas FOC while Discos reap the benefits.
Finally, what about consumers who gather together as landlord's associations and CDAs to purchase and install transformers while Discos reap the benefits. I put it to you that not less than 90% of transformers installed in Nigeria today are not owned or installed by the Discos.
Re: NERC: Discos To Pay For Rejecting Electricity by Agbegbaorogboye: 10:47am On Sep 11, 2020
GamalNasser:
I still don't get why you think the DISCOs are running at a loss .. What's the DISCOS concern with how much a MW of Electricity produced , that's the problem of GENCOS not discos ..Are the DISCOs saying they are buying one KWH at 53naira from the Gencos ? That's a huge lie ..If anybody should be claiming a loss it's the GENCOS who sell cheap to the DISCOs and the DISCOS end up rejecting 70 percent of what is produced the Federal govt makes up for this by paying the GENCOS for every cost disparity and rejected energy .. See I have studied the system to the core and DISCOs have no valid reason for rejecting Electricity and denying people metre because the donut deliberately so they can sell darkness and make unaccountable profits ...Ask yourself why discos are hell bent that nobody must audit their books
Mind you, the meters are not even free. Meters from AEDC now cost 40k
Re: NERC: Discos To Pay For Rejecting Electricity by mamaafrik(m): 10:55am On Sep 11, 2020
and you think they won't destroy TCN structure to thwart this move,continuuuu
Re: NERC: Discos To Pay For Rejecting Electricity by mamaafrik(m): 10:59am On Sep 11, 2020
loswhite:
Technology can easy track by passing....
which Technology is that enlighten usooo,nepa wey be say na only when they don't see you recharge for like 4 months them they use detect bypassing,osanogbuai Disco
Re: NERC: Discos To Pay For Rejecting Electricity by Cantonese: 11:05am On Sep 11, 2020
Nbotee:
Na by force?? Taking it means dey have to pay for it
So you do not know that "na by force" for you to pay your "estimated bill". They have thousands to transformers packed in warehouses without using them. They refurbish transformers and tell us they installed brand new ones. At least this way they can fix their distribution network, give us light and make their money.
Re: NERC: Discos To Pay For Rejecting Electricity by ibbo: 11:18am On Sep 11, 2020
the only way forward is to make prepare meter available for all. anybody caught by passing should be severly dealt with
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