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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Israelicc: 8:13am On Sep 14, 2020
Hi Litaninja,

The solar na suffer part will only apply when your design doesn't capture DOA (Days of Autonomy) There will be rainy days and you should size your battery bank to accommodate worst case scenario to be able to enjoy the benefits of solar. Unfortunately the cost of the adjoining components makes people start small making it impossible to do what is termed best practice. Disposable income also has a large part in affecting DOA. If you are blessed, you tow that line, if not you go very basic and complement with either generators or the grid.



litaninja:
**singing Fela Afrobeat style**
Solar na enjoy...solar na enjoy...
Solar na suffer...solar na suffer...
2 days now no light.....paranra.....
2 days now rain dey fall....paranra....
Generator no dey.....paranra....

Solar na enjoy....solar na suffer.... grin grin

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by funshyboi(m): 8:33am On Sep 14, 2020
ceaser:


I guess you intend to type 480 watt-hour (12v 40 ah) battery and I'll wager it's those blue coloured lithium types. If I'm correct, you should get the functions of the four terminal wires correctly (2 input and 2 output) wires.

You also connected it directly to the 80 watts panel which isn't good for the battery. There should be a charge controller in between the two. You can get by with a small sized - maybe 10A to 20A - charge controller; one with bulk of 14.4v and float of 13.7v should be fine. If you also have a DC-DC buck controller with 14.4v output lying around, you can co-opt that too, better still if the buck controller has adjustable output voltage. The PWM charge controller should be able to provide you with info on your charging status. Some DC-DC buck controller, especially the ones with adjustable output voltage and current also come with voltmeter which you can read to guess your charging status.

About charging your phone, just get a cheapie car usb charger (shouldn't be more than 1k5), connect it to the output terminals of your battery and you're good to go. Of it's a PWM charge controller that you are able to lay your hands on, get ones with 5v usb ports included.

Thanks for the response
You’re right it’s 40 amps battery
And it’s the blue one

No it’s not connected directly I got a CC and attached is the picture

And pls can I get the picture of cheapie car usb charger

I asked the question because I want to know if during phone charging I’m not deceiving myself thinking the battery is charging where as I’m using the entire charge on the battery..

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kiekie1(m): 8:40am On Sep 14, 2020
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ojesymsym: 8:45am On Sep 14, 2020
Thanks a lot.
The explanations, drawings and pictures have all helped to clear up the confusion.
essegis:


Terminals on the battery relate to the individual cells that make it up. Each comes with their positive & negative terminal which you have to parallel to get the full AH as printed on the battery. Number of cells is determined by the amount of AH on offer.

From here you connect in series to make up your desired bank voltage. Remember the batteries are nominal 2v. Quite easy to get around though.
mctfopt:


Don't be confused, each side (made up of three terminals) is either positive or negative. But this is a massive capacity so only one terminal won't be enough to handle the current that can be drawn from it.

Notice how someone used a long bar on first battery to join the battery terminal. On second attached picture you can see that is a 48v system if you follow the connection, just assume each three cables coming from each battery is one to further simplify it.

GeorgeD1:


i see that essegis already answered you earlier.

in addition, you can always check the product data sheet for the correct battery terminal connection
sequence. where i had issues personally was how to connect both ends of the curve, since i had mine
in a double row fashion. for this i spent countless hours searching youtube videos of different types
of 2v battery connections without success until i eventually figured it out by myself.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kiekie1(m): 8:51am On Sep 14, 2020
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by odimbannamdi(m): 10:41am On Sep 14, 2020
earthrealm:


Well, you tried with the data, you posted, but a bit incomplete. Flooded batts require 14.5v to 15v charging voltage during absorb, and 23.8v during float. In bulk stage, it gradually ramps up from 13.1v, depending on how depleted the battery is.

Luminous inverters hv poor charging alogorithm, hv always said this, unless you have solar with good cc, i would not advice anyone to buy luminous inverter, worse still for flooded batts.

If 13.8v is the max voltage your inverter is sending out @ 12amps, then your battery are in an unhappy state, and would fail prematurely. C/10 charge rate implies a 200ah batt requires 20 to 25amps charging current to be happy

2ndly, periodic equalization, wch is simply sending higher voltage 15.1v to 15.5v every 2 to 3 months for 2 to 4hrs.you need an inverter or CC capable of doing this

Thanks for this detailed expose. I am really learning a lot. However, i have some questions.

First, how do we know the required/"happy" amps rating (C/10, for instance) for a particular battery? And is there a formular we can use in calculating the relationship between the C rating and the amp rating?

Also, what is the relationship between the 12v (or 24v or 48v) usually written on inverters and the voltage/amps they send out in charging a battery? I asked because you mentioned 13.8/12amps possibly being the max v/amps sent out by the guy's inverter.

Again, do you imply that tubular/flooded batteries require higher charging voltage compare to other kinds of batteries? Is this a disadvantage and possibly a cogent reason warranting one to ditch tubular batteries?

Finally, how do we ensure a correlation between the voltage our inverter discharges and the voltage required by our battery?

Thanks bro
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by litaninja(m): 11:07am On Sep 14, 2020
Lmao. The design captures DOA ooo.....it is the pocket that lost it again the way some governments are losing BH terrorists. grin grin

Israelicc:
Hi Litaninja,

The solar na suffer part will only apply when your design doesn't capture DOA (Days of Autonomy) There will be rainy days and you should size your battery bank to accommodate worst case scenario to be able to enjoy the benefits of solar. Unfortunately the cost of the adjoining components makes people start small making it impossible to do what is termed best practice. Disposable income also has a large part in affecting DOA. If you are blessed, you tow that line, if not you go very basic and complement with either generators or the grid.



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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by icjunior(m): 11:41am On Sep 14, 2020
My community has light supply 7pm to 8am everyday,so I need a small inverter I can use for atleast 8-10hrs when there's no light...I'm a corp member somewhere in Bayelsa so I'm looking for a good small inverter that can just charge my laptop,phone and Bluetooth speaker.

Any suggestions please?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 11:55am On Sep 14, 2020
ceaser:


The first picture.
Two inverters??

The voltage stabilizer is for PHCH right?

Hi Ceaser,

Client is using just one inventer... He bought the second one, fairly used, as a spare.... In case

Yes, for PHCN

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Barezzi(m): 12:11pm On Sep 14, 2020
So it's actually 120Ah? shocked
This one pass highway robbery if true.

Edit: I was already salivating at the prospect of stacking 5 of them to get 1000Ah 48V dc lithium bank!

ojeysky:

If the felicity actual capacity is 150AH/48V and not 120AH and if the cells are new then I think it's a good deal at that price.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ojeysky(m): 12:12pm On Sep 14, 2020
icjunior:
My community has light supply 7pm to 8am everyday,so I need a small inverter I can use for atleast 8-10hrs when there's no light...I'm a corp member somewhere in Bayelsa so I'm looking for a good small inverter that can just charge my laptop,phone and Bluetooth speaker.

Any suggestions please?

That should be roughly 100w or less. You could get a small 500w inverter and a 150AH battery so that keeps things at 50% DoD

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by icjunior(m): 12:12pm On Sep 14, 2020
icjunior:
My community has light supply 7pm to 8am everyday,so I need a small inverter I can use for atleast 8-10hrs when there's no light...I'm a corp member somewhere in Bayelsa so I'm looking for a good small inverter that can just charge my laptop,phone and Bluetooth speaker.

Any suggestions please?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Israelicc: 12:46pm On Sep 14, 2020
It is well, the Lord will make a way. wink



litaninja:
Lmao. The design captures DOA ooo.....it is the pocket that lost it again the way some governments are losing BH terrorists. grin grin

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kiekie1(m): 2:54pm On Sep 14, 2020
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by GeorgeD1(m): 3:06pm On Sep 14, 2020
Trippledots:


Boss, pls at what average C rate did you charge and discharge those zeniths with while they were in service?

charge rate hovered between c5 and c10 in some instances and discharge rate was between c12 and c50
all depending on the time of day and equipment in use.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by icjunior(m): 3:11pm On Sep 14, 2020
ojeysky:


That should be roughly 100w or less. You could get a small 500w inverter and a 150AH battery so that keeps things at 50% DoD

How can I get these please,thanks.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by saint2ace(m): 3:15pm On Sep 14, 2020
icjunior:


How can I get these please,thanks.

You haven't started Ur budget...
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by icjunior(m): 3:31pm On Sep 14, 2020
saint2ace:


You haven't started Ur budget...

The 500w inverter and the battery you mentioned is how much? As long as it can give me what I want,I'm fine.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by olopan(m): 3:42pm On Sep 14, 2020
We have a similar package that can suit this your needs
It's a 500W inverter/charger with 100Ah battery.
Though ours is with solar but based on your needs, it can still work, as I believe your laptop isn't in use at those 10hrs period.

Kindly reply to proceed further.
icjunior:
My community has light supply 7pm to 8am everyday,so I need a small inverter I can use for atleast 8-10hrs when there's no light...I'm a corp member somewhere in Bayelsa so I'm looking for a good small inverter that can just charge my laptop,phone and Bluetooth speaker.

Any suggestions please?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Brando16: 3:42pm On Sep 14, 2020
Good day people,
I’m brand spanking new on this thread and I need advice/direction on a backup power system.
Currently I have a modified 2kva Prag inverter and 2 pcs of 200AH gel batteries that have gotten to their end of life (don’t back up for more than 30mins anymore).
Because of the recent increase in power tariffs across the country, I am looking towards an inverter system that would help to bring down my power cost by getting a hybrid inverter that places priority on solar before the grid.
To achieve what I stated above, I recently acquired 4 pcs of of 250w panel (1000w),
With the panels I intend to buy a hybrid inverter (looking at Schneider Electric Homaya 1.5KVA Solar Hybrid Inverter) and 2 pcs of Eastman Tubular Battery 220Ah 12V.
My issue now is
1. I’m not sure if the Schneider Hybrid inverter comes with its own Charge control (either pwm of mppt).
2. Also regards of if it does can I still get a 60A mppt CC that will handle charging and not compromise they hybrid nature of the invert (placing priority on solar 1st).
3. Is der anyother way I could achieve my overall objective without said inverter (Schneider Electric Homaya 1.5KVA Solar Hybrid Inverter) if that is the bottle neck.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by icjunior(m): 3:50pm On Sep 14, 2020
olopan:
We have a similar package that can suit this your needs
It's a 500W inverter/charger with 100Ah battery.
Though ours is with solar but based on your needs, it can still work, as I believe your laptop isn't in use at those 10hrs period.

Kindly reply to proceed further.

Okay... proceed please
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Abdomox: 4:31pm On Sep 14, 2020
earthrealm:


Well, you tried with the data, you posted, but a bit incomplete. Flooded batts require 14.5v to 15v charging voltage during absorb, and 23.8v during float. In bulk stage, it gradually ramps up from 13.1v, depending on how depleted the battery is.

Luminous inverters hv poor charging alogorithm, hv always said this, unless you have solar with good cc, i would not advice anyone to buy luminous inverter, worse still for flooded batts.

If 13.8v is the max voltage your inverter is sending out @ 12amps, then your battery are in an unhappy state, and would fail prematurely. C/10 charge rate implies a 200ah batt requires 20 to 25amps charging current to be happy

2ndly, periodic equalization, wch is simply sending higher voltage 15.1v to 15.5v every 2 to 3 months for 2 to 4hrs.you need an inverter or CC capable of doing this

Many thanks for this information. Please help with name of Charge Controller that has equalization functionality. Also, will I be able to use the Charge Controller to increase the amps going into my batteries?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 4:56pm On Sep 14, 2020
Barezzi:
So it's actually 120Ah? shocked
This one pass highway robbery if true.

Edit: I was already salivating at the prospect of stacking 5 of them to get 1000Ah 48V dc lithium bank!


Lol. Bàbá wan hit jackpot cheesy
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by olopan(m): 5:47pm On Sep 14, 2020
To Question
1. Yes, it does come with its own charge controller a PWM type.

2. This would have being advisable if you were not using a two battery system as ideally you should only be doing 40 - 50A max. Which is equivalent to around 1400W.

3. There is a way all your problems can go away, if you try the GROWATT 3KW 24V
It has a max. Capacity for 1500Wp and you can set your priority to Solar only battery then grid, and all these can be monitored remotely with ease.
And all the headache of over charging goes away as you can set the max. Current to be delivered to your battery to your desired current and still be served to be max of what the sun has to give.

If you need more info on the Growatt kindly respond.

I hope I have helped answer your question.
Cheers
Brando16:
Good day people,
I’m brand spanking new on this thread and I need advice/direction on a backup power system.
Currently I have a modified 2kva Prag inverter and 2 pcs of 200AH gel batteries that have gotten to their end of life (don’t back up for more than 30mins anymore).
Because of the recent increase in power tariffs across the country, I am looking towards an inverter system that would help to bring down my power cost by getting a hybrid inverter that places priority on solar before the grid.
To achieve what I stated above, I recently acquired 4 pcs of of 250w panel (1000w),
With the panels I intend to buy a hybrid inverter (looking at Schneider Electric Homaya 1.5KVA Solar Hybrid Inverter) and 2 pcs of Eastman Tubular Battery 220Ah 12V.
My issue now is
1. I’m not sure if the Schneider Hybrid inverter comes with its own Charge control (either pwm of mppt).
2. Also regards of if it does can I still get a 60A mppt CC that will handle charging and not compromise they hybrid nature of the invert (placing priority on solar 1st).
3. Is der anyother way I could achieve my overall objective without said inverter (Schneider Electric Homaya 1.5KVA Solar Hybrid Inverter) if that is the bottle neck.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by olopan(m): 6:11pm On Sep 14, 2020
Thanks,
So the package is #70,000 excluding transport.

The package includes;
12V 100Ah battery,
500W inverter/charger
2.5mm wire to connect
And
A miniature 32A knife-edge to switch between Utility and the inverter.

Kindly follow up with contact on profile �

icjunior:


Okay... proceed please

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by wilmaria14: 6:49pm On Sep 14, 2020
Brando16:
Good day people,
I’m brand spanking new on this thread and I need advice/direction on a backup power system.
Currently I have a modified 2kva Prag inverter and 2 pcs of 200AH gel batteries that have gotten to their end of life (don’t back up for more than 30mins anymore).
Because of the recent increase in power tariffs across the country, I am looking towards an inverter system that would help to bring down my power cost by getting a hybrid inverter that places priority on solar before the grid.
To achieve what I stated above, I recently acquired 4 pcs of of 250w panel (1000w),
With the panels I intend to buy a hybrid inverter (looking at Schneider Electric Homaya 1.5KVA Solar Hybrid Inverter) and 2 pcs of Eastman Tubular Battery 220Ah 12V.
My issue now is
1. I’m not sure if the Schneider Hybrid inverter comes with its own Charge control (either pwm of mppt).
2. Also regards of if it does can I still get a 60A mppt CC that will handle charging and not compromise they hybrid nature of the invert (placing priority on solar 1st).
3. Is der anyother way I could achieve my overall objective without said inverter (Schneider Electric Homaya 1.5KVA Solar Hybrid Inverter) if that is the bottle neck.
Most of u don't get dis hybrid or not always get a CC for ur systems it helps it alot most of u buy hybrid and will not add a MPPT charger to it most all hybrid comes with PWM controller and for me anything more Dan 1kva need a MPPT charger control for it to work well dat is mistake most people do so
1 if u are going for hybrid or not buy a 60a MPPT
To cost it less buy ur normal 2kva inverter and den buy MPPT charger control for it
U can still buy 2kva diamond inverter one of d best with low cost but most people dont know
Tanks
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by nonso1992: 7:31pm On Sep 14, 2020
Brand new Emerson vertiv 6v/200ah high quality excellence batteries available , produced 2020

Price N85,000.00

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by nonso1992: 7:32pm On Sep 14, 2020
6V/200Ah Emerson vertiv avaialble N85,000.00

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Barezzi(m): 7:44pm On Sep 14, 2020
grin grin grin
ceaser:


Lol. Bàbá wan hit jackpot cheesy
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Abdomox: 7:59pm On Sep 14, 2020
wilmaria14:

Most of u don't get dis hybrid or not always get a CC for ur systems it helps it alot most of u buy hybrid and will not add a MPPT charger to it most all hybrid comes with PWM controller and for me anything more Dan 1kva need a MPPT charger control for it to work well dat is mistake most people do so
1 if u are going for hybrid or not buy a 60a MPPT
To cost it less buy ur normal 2kva inverter and den buy MPPT charger control for it
U can still buy 2kva diamond inverter one of d best with low cost but most people dont know
Tanks

Please help recommend quality and affordable 60A MPPT (will prefer one with equalization function, if available).

Most times, installers dont tell people about these Controllers/Equalizer, perhaps because of initial setup cost. But I think it's better to do them from all info have been reading online.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dollarnaira: 9:03pm On Sep 14, 2020
Hope you guys are aware that all batteries have max charging current.Think deep before u choose ur mppt or external chargers.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kiekie1(m): 10:03pm On Sep 14, 2020
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Monbat 200a 12v battery ............. 159,000

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