EgunMogaji2:


[s]Story building are not held up by the blocks but by the pillars. Blocks should just be partition elements.

Especially Nigerian blocks where quality control is not certain.

So you can use 6" as long as the pillars are a designed but I think plumbing could be an issue. I would use 9" on the exterior perimeter and 6" on the inside except for private areas.

Good luck on your project[/s].

Godisgreatest1:


Ok, just like you said, I think am cool with the 9" external walls and 6" internal, supported with pillars. Thank you very much.

Godisgreatest1:


Ok, just like you said, I think am cool with the 9" external walls and 6" internal, supported with pillars. Thank you very much.

Godisgreatest1:
Hello, please can 6" Hole blocks be used for the ground floor of a story building of 4 units 2 bedroom apartments?. must it be 9" all through?

Godisgreatest1:
Hello, please can 6" Hole blocks be used for the ground floor of a story building of 4 units 2 bedroom apartments?. must it be 9" all through?

Godisgreatest1:
Hello, please can 6" Hole blocks be used for the ground floor of a story building of 4 units 2 bedroom apartments?. must it be 9" all through?

diordaves:


These edificies are not built for the everyday economic reasons but as legacies to future generations. The location does not matter. Why village? These are private and sometime national edificies. These individuals are (were) wealthy, prosperous and politically powerful so they need to "history-stamp" their wealth and prosperity into the annals of human history and to put their "village" into the human (geographical) map.

Apart from the Pharaohs of Egypt, African Kings and Queens and wealthy individuals failed woefully in leaving legacies (edificies) for future generations. Take a look at Europe with all the grand palaces (Buckenham Palace, Windsor Castle) and landmarks (Eifel Tower) that are now hugely successful tourist attractions and then you will wonder what did our Kings and Queens do with the wealth of Africa. Mansa Musa of Mali was the wealthies man on earth to date but what are his legacies today? Think what if Mansa Musa had used all that gold to build (Buckenham) palaces and castles all over Mali, planned the city, build landmarks and structures just like the Pharaohs and pave the streets with gold and then the next generation took it to the nest level, Mali will be paradise today. African Kings were busy marying more wives with the wealth of Africa. One can't go wrong with properties, even white elephant properties.

I'm in support of these edificies where ever, as they are legacies to future generation. It is left for the "now" generation to take it to the next level. In Nigeria, we are poor in building legacy edificies and taking lagacies to the next level. Though some of the 1950s and 60s wealthy and prosperous generations in Nigeria left us some really encouraging legacies like Mapo Hall and Cocoa House (Ibadan), Government House, National Theater and Iddo Terminal all in Lagos, but what are we doing with them? All run down. We are squandering our wealth again just like our forefathers. Mind you these edifices were built then in "villages". It is not "money miss road". Take a look at the very poor, lame and inaccessible Aso Rock Presidential Palace and compare with the White House (USA) with its surrounding public park and you will know what lagacy is all about. Will Aso Rock as built EVER attract tourist and pay for itself? Time will tell.

If I'm so prosperous, I will build a stupendous edifice to the glory of the Most One, the Most High in Warri my "village" and hope the next generation will take it to the next level and not see it as a white elephant project.

michlins:
I'm back from oga Valencia home. My advice is that you respect anyone you come across. Some people are capable of many things you can only dream of. Forget say here na faceles forum

Godisgreatest1:
I thank you all for your responses. I enquired about the size of blocks because I noticed that in architectural drawings, there are 'tiny' numbers (300, 225 and 150) in partitions or between rooms. So I only thought that using 150 represents 6" which may use up less land space.

So if 9" blocks are used for 8 partitions it means 300x8=2400 space used, but for 6" it will be 150x8=1800 space added to the building size. 2400-1800=600 worth of space. If the 600 is in mm, that is approximately 2ft difference between both blocks.

Godisgreatest1:
I thank you all for your responses. I enquired about the size of blocks because I noticed that in architectural drawings, there are 'tiny' numbers (300, 225 and 150) in partitions or between rooms. So I only thought that using 150 represents 6" which may use up less land space.

So if 9" blocks are used for 8 partitions it means 300x8=2400 space used, but for 6" it will be 150x8=1800 space added to the building size. 2400-1800=600 worth of space. If the 600 is in mm, that is approximately 2ft difference between both blocks.

n3xt:


Why?

If the reason is to save cost, I think the savings is not worth the huge sacrifice. It’s like compromising on what should be quality upfront.

- 9in blocks are more stable than 6in blocks (bending)
- Better sound insulation
- Easier conduit
- Better support for vertical loads
- You can build 9in blocks faster than 6in blocks

If you consider the additional cost of building “Frame Structure”, then 9in blocks is far cheaper and more reliable than using 6in.

"There’s no bottom to how cheap you can build"

A house can be built with no supports, too small of a foundation, no building plan, no special windows or even 4 inches blocks to squeeze more space. It can be built on solid rock, unstable soil or on water (as they do in Makoko slum).

Develop a budget, but be careful not to make it too low. Essentially, do not get too caught up in how to make your home cheaper or put in on overdrive, stay focused on how to make you house a good investment.

gbadexy:
you are learning fast.

michlins:
I have great teachers in you and many others here

gbadexy:

If some people make some comments to some monikers that I know well, I just smile and say to myself 'no be me go cast you'.
Property is unlike politics section where all sorts meet and use the anonymity to be what they chose to be.
Here, it's strictly stakeholders, clients and contractors who mean business.
I mentioned earlier you would make good business and connections both online and offline if you gain trust and is consistent with your services.

Godisgreatest1:
I thank you all for your responses. I enquired about the size of blocks because I noticed that in architectural drawings, there are 'tiny' numbers (300, 225 and 150) in partitions or between rooms. So I only thought that using 150 represents 6" which may use up less land space.

So if 9" blocks are used for 8 partitions it means 300x8=2400 space used, but for 6" it will be 150x8=1800 space added to the building size. 2400-1800=600 worth of space. If the 600 is in mm, that is approximately 2ft difference between both blocks.

mrsteel:

This is misleading!

michlins:
I'm back from oga Valencia home. My advice is that you respect anyone you come across. Some people are capable of many things you can only dream of. Forget say here na faceles forum

michlins:
I'm back from oga Valencia home. My advice is that you respect anyone you come across. Some people are capable of many things you can only dream of. Forget say here na faceles forum

gbadexy:

If some people make some comments to some monikers that I know well, I just smile and say to myself 'no be me go cast you'.
Property is unlike politics section where all sorts meet and use the anonymity to be what they chose to be.
Here, it's strictly stakeholders, clients and contractors who mean business.
I mentioned earlier you would make good business and connections both online and offline if you gain trust and is consistent with your services.

diordaves:


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Apart from the Pharaohs of Egypt, African Kings and Queens and wealthy individuals failed woefully in leaving legacies (edificies) for future generations.
Take a look at Europe with all the grand palaces (Buckenham Palace, Windsor Castle) and landmarks (Eifel Tower) that are now hugely successful tourist attractions and then you will wonder what did our Kings and Queens do with the wealth of Africa. Mansa Musa of Mali was the wealthies man on earth to date but what are his legacies today? Think what if Mansa Musa had used all that gold to build (Buckenham) palaces and castles all over Mali, planned the city, build landmarks and structures just like the Pharaohs and pave the streets with gold and then the next generation took it to the nest level, Mali will be paradise today. African Kings were busy marying more wives with the wealth of Africa. One can't go wrong with properties, even white elephant properties.
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America went to Libya and looted all its Gold, under the pretext of "Human right", just as the British say they would not return the Benin Bronze because "they are helping usto keep it".

You cant have all these white, rampaging looters running riot on your territory, and still expect to have your heritages intact.

mufutau55:


Nah only empty barrels like us dey make noise o.
Nah only useless rich man dey shout!

Hajji M.

michlins:
I'm back from oga Valencia home. My advice is that you respect anyone you come across. Some people are capable of many things you can only dream of. Forget say here na faceles forum

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Sir, l appreciate your post a lot.
At the bolded though: Past African leaders left a lot for the latter generations to admire...until the White Colonialist came and Stole, plundered and destroyed that which they could not steal and take to Europe and Arabia.

Its a long story which cant be fully expoused on this thread but take for example, the Benin Artifact whose replica was used at Festac 77 symbol, that wonderful Artwork sits in a British Museam till today! It is among the millions of African heritage that the White Stole, leaving Africa beare to the bones.
If White people could carry the Pyramid of Egypt, l bet you it will all be in Europe today, and not in Egypt.
And legend even have it that they tried and looted the Tombs of the Pharaohs, with grave consequences at times.
The Egyptians knew it will be looted and they did lay booby-traps at the entrances, which discouraged the White lootes a bit.

Maybe the current migration into Europe and the Americas will unleash "African colonialist" on Europe and the Americas, wo we can also pilage their 'legacies' and let us see how it looks, five hundred years from now.

America went to Libya and looted all its Gold, under the pretext of "Human right", just as the British say they would not return the Benin Bronze because "they are helping usto keep it".

You cant have all these white, rampaging looters running riot on your territory, and still expect to have your heritages intact..

Thank you for your post.


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mrsteel:

This is misleading!

What part of the weight of a "decking" can all those useless 9" Blocks that you can crush with bare hands carry?
Think about it for a second..... and you will realise that it is the Pilalrs and Columns that are doing the job and that is where the money needs to be spent.

n3xt:
Benin Bronze

You are just very resourceful sha.
Thumbs up to you Sir.

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Sir, it is NOT misleading at all.

I have a Storey building as testament to that theory. All internal and external partitions are 6" blocks (UPSTAIRS), only the ground floor external partitions are 9" blocks and the building is over 5yrs now, not a single crack or anything to worry about.
And l have friends who went the same route, with same result.

I guess what Egun-Chariman did not explain into details is that it all depends on the Engineering drawing as to where Pillars are required, sticking to QUALITY of those Pillars. and to a lesser extent, using Quality Blocks.

In my own build, not a single Pillar had sharp sand or salty water! It was a very rich mix of Granite, Iron, enough Cement and Stonedust all through, completely CHAINED to all Lintels and Colums.

It was people like Electricians, Door fixers and Plumbers that suffered and paid the price for it's strength because all concrete parts were like Steel, just too hard to chisel or break. Many Power Drills had their Drillbits destroyed and l had to buy a few replacements as some Contractors were threaning to abandon work because of extra cost being incurred on that account.

My point, from a practical point of experience is that Block-side is not the MAJOR determininf factor for safety/strength in a building, for the reason Egunmogaji mentiond: They are NOT the MAJOR load-bearing element in a storey building.

Really, let us sit-back and reflect: What part of the weight of a "decking" can all those useless 9" Blocks that you can crush with bare hands carry?
Think about it for a second..... and you will realise that it is the Pilalrs and Columns that are doing the job and that is where the money needs to be spent.

My humble opinion, Sir.


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michlins:
I took pictures but I'm not sure if he will be ok with me sharing. I enter house see rooms scatter