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Re: This Why It Will Be Hard For Nigeria To Divide by HeadShot: 5:25pm On Oct 02, 2020
Jones4190:
PDP is a fraud.
Multiplier effect of corruption
1. A young man works for one of the state ministries. His salary is 120K. He makes 15,000 everyday on this desk (N75k a week) engaging in corrupt practices. As a result, he spends the daily cash as he cares. Living large and far above his legitimate income.
2. He visits the local joint every evening and buys drinks for friends, and area boys. They hail him. He is married, but has two girlfriends. His "income" is enough to take care of them. The Asun seller at his favorite joint is happy, the joint owner is happy.
3. Everyone was benefiting from his "income". Friends, family, area boys, joint owner, Asun seller, girlfriends, wife and his church. Life was good.
4. Then suddenly the ministry implemented the Treasury Single Account (TSA) at the beginning of PMB administration. His extra "income" disappeared and he had to adjust to the reality of event and live within his real income. That wasn't easy.
5. Initially he reduced his daily visit to the joint to 3 days a week and stopped buying drinks for everyone. He reduced the plates of Asun. The Asun seller started to find it hard to sell a full goat each day and resorted to buying half.
6. The young man's girlfriends started to feel the heat too. No more iPhone 10. The joint owner noticed a drop in sales. The young man finally stopped visiting the joint after a month. The area boys started feeling his absence. The effect cascaded down.
7. The young man started spending more time at home with his wife and kids. The family had to readjust to the reality of the new normal. His hair stylist noticed the young man suddenly stopped tipping. He will even wait for his N200 change after haircut.
8. Things are different. Times are hard, they all cry. The young man is blaming Buhari, his wife is blaming Buhari, the area boys are blaming Buhari, the girlfriends are saying Buhari must go, the joint owner is saying Buhari killed the "economy"
9. The Asun seller is cursing Buhari, the hair stylist is insisting Buhari is too old to rule. This is the story of our nation where corruption fuels the "economy". Those who are not engaging in it are benefiting from it.
10. This tread is not about Buhari's achievement or failure, but rather about the "multiplier" effect of corruption and how we have built a system largely driven by corruption. It's about policy implication (good or bad). It's about the choices we have made.
Finally, the young man had to withdraw his kids from what he called expensive primary school his kids attend. He added:"what are they teaching them there sef " Obasanjo didn't go to a private school. I just laughed .
APc is evil
A party from hell
These pictures promised heaven on Earth

They promised to stop public office holders from seeking medical treatment abroad but Buhari the party leader was first to break the promise..

They promised to peg the PMS price at 40 naira per litre ... It will be more than 200 soon

Corruption everywhere.. they even eat food meant for school kids

No roads... No security
No food.. no healthcare

APc is evil
Re: This Why It Will Be Hard For Nigeria To Divide by AlexBells(op): 5:34pm On Oct 02, 2020
Litmus:
Oh, I see, yours is the Biafra thing. Well, it is event to me that the start topic is beyond what you know or could reasonably debate but I’m sure you'll be on sounder ground arguing the Biafra war and the reasons for your grievances. Therefore, ill leave you to it.
I'm not arguing the Biafran stuff, I'm just saying that a well managed segment is great if the whole can't function, A Sharia Republic in the North could be more successful than the current Nigeria, Boko Haram established a caliphate in the North, I bet you know Boko Haram is currently more successful than the Nigerian State
Re: This Why It Will Be Hard For Nigeria To Divide by psyco: 5:40pm On Oct 02, 2020
AlexBells:
Nigeria is still very much attractive, the vast land in the North is a potential mine for solid minerals, the Sahara desert won't be messed with without Nigeria coming in the picture, the sahara desert landmass is as big as US or China, tell me what lies beneath that dust storm...Nigeria will continue to be of interest to the world for a very long time to come but not the good Nigeria, the bad us is what favours the world
I tempted to believed this. Because a good Nigeria will mean no more room for illegal exploitation of our resources by foreigners.
Re: This Why It Will Be Hard For Nigeria To Divide by whoawa(m): 5:42pm On Oct 02, 2020
Proeast2:
Stop looking at Nigeria through rose tinted glasses. Nigeria is no longer attractive as it used to be, and those countries could care less what happens.

Today, the crude oil that made Nigeria to be so important to US and other world powers has become worthless, with more sellers than buyers available today, worse still, attention has shifted from oil. In essence, Nigeria's greatest bargaining chip is no longer good enough.

Secondly, Nigeria is currently home to millions of refugees, mainly people that were displaced in internal conflicts, and the UN and other global agencies are the ones bearing the brunt!

Thousands are being killed on a regular yet the central government is doing next to nothing to stop it. Do you think that UN and other global bodies is happy about it?

The other time, Moumar Ghaddafi asserted that the only way peace would reign in Nigeria is by splitting the country into two, one for Christians and one for Muslims. His idea may be simplistic but believe me, UN and others are already considering options for Nigeria's balkanization should things escalate badly.

Just pray that we don't withness any serious crises with potentials for total war, because that's when the UN will finally step in, either during the hostilities or prior to it, and the only outcome will be the dissolution of Nigeria.
You an intelligent goat �
Re: This Why It Will Be Hard For Nigeria To Divide by AlexBells(op): 5:58pm On Oct 02, 2020
psyco:
I tempted to believed this. Because a good Nigeria will mean no more room for illegal exploitation of our resources by foreigners.
It is a good temptation, don't resist it
Re: This Why It Will Be Hard For Nigeria To Divide by Yokol(m): 8:30am On Oct 04, 2020
Christistruth00:
The corrupt looters are more United , determined, strategic and organised than NIgerians themselves and it is in their interest for NIgeria to not only survive but to thrive so they can have plenty to loot in years to come they have the power and means to make that happen.

In fact when it comes to looting the national treasury they are so detribalised that they deserve a national award.

In fact Corruption is the most Competent, imaginative, detribalised ,United and successful institution in Nigeria religion and tribe are no hindrance at all they even have the foresight and administrative skills to loot on behalf of their unborn descendants.

The best lawyers, judges ,police, civil servants collect salaries and work for them even the entire NIgerian justice system and civil service was built to make life easier for them.
Re: This Why It Will Be Hard For Nigeria To Divide by Yokol(m): 8:39am On Oct 04, 2020
Pls friendd,am new here. I am an electronic and communication engineer,from university of nigeria nsukka..pls can anyone help me with advice,i want to migrate to germany soon.
Re: This Why It Will Be Hard For Nigeria To Divide by Fash20: 9:09am On Oct 04, 2020
AlexBells:
Nigeria is not as useless as you think, Nigeria matter to the International community but as a defeated people, even defeat has its need, Especially in global politics, Nigeria and Africa is only a ground for Raw materials, when you realise that Africa is the most sustainable Continent you would understand that the only need for Africa is as a subsidy to the rest, @1.3 billion population, China and India alone is bigger than the whole of Africa the second Largest continent, there is a human deficit in Africa, which is why the rest of the world wish to use it as a means to make up for the rest, once Africa realise how powerful she can be, then the game is up for the rest of the world, Africa is at war with the rest
China and India are not even the size of half africa. Unless you meant population.
Re: This Why It Will Be Hard For Nigeria To Divide by DerideGull(m): 9:54am On Oct 04, 2020
AlexBells:
I do know that Nigeria is not dividing anytime soon, not because the people in Nigeria don't want her to divide but mostly because the people out of Nigeria won't want her to divide.

The rest of the international community wouldn't want Nigeria to divide, maybe Republican wing of American politicking may fancy it a bit but from UK, to Russia, to China while they all want Nigeria intact, US may remain neutral, but the majority of American interests would be in a single Nigeria.

That's why Nigeria can not divide, the rest of the countries like Germany, Spain, Japan, Isreal, Saudi etc are not power brokers and their interest won't matter much, France can't have a say here and they better stay out, as this is a UK enclave, so every reasonable oversea power want Nigeria intact.
If the bolded did not want Nigeria to dismember it is solely on their economic interest not Nigerian interest. It took bold stance of Donald Trump to slightly shake off many countries which have been on free lunch at USA. I do not care whose interest the division of the shithole called Nigeria disrupts. I simply want unconditional disintegration. If the disintegration of the cesspit called Nigeria would engender the end of Igbo land, I say so be it. I sue for Republic of Igbo land.
Re: This Why It Will Be Hard For Nigeria To Divide by DerideGull(m):
AlexBells:
You don't get European politics, do you think whites don't respect agreement like we blacks, in case you had forgotten, the scramble for Africa is still very much in effect, have you ever seen any France official make any remarks on Nigeria, it is not like Nigeria is a British enclave in the light you are seeing it but in Europe, Britain has the say when it comes to relationship with Nigeria, if France Dares, then Britain would also interfere In the affairs of francophone countries, respect me I respect you, that's Europe
The bolded indicates you are a pawn of globalists. It is very unintellectual to refer humans as "white or black". The earth I know is inhabited by ONE race and it is human race. You could do yourself good by being fundamentally educated. It is a shame the act of enjoying the free air by Africans depended on the free will of Europeans and Americans. What a lost course.
Re: This Why It Will Be Hard For Nigeria To Divide by AlexBells(op): 8:00am On Oct 05, 2020
Fash20:
China and India are not even the size of half africa. Unless you meant population.
How does your brain work sef, I made it clear Africa is the second largest continent then how could I be comparing the whole of Africa to China and India in landmass, common sense could have told you I'm talking about population, how does 1.3 million relate to size like 1.3 million square kilometer or miles or what,
Re: This Why It Will Be Hard For Nigeria To Divide by Fash20: 8:07am On Oct 05, 2020
AlexBells:
How does your brain work sef, I made it clear Africa is the second largest continent then how could I be comparing the whole of Africa to China and India in landmass, common sense could have told you I'm talking about population, how does 1.3 million relate to size like 1.3 million square kilometer or miles or what,
You said "biggest" what does big mean pls?
Re: This Why It Will Be Hard For Nigeria To Divide by AlexBells(op): 8:09am On Oct 05, 2020
DerideGull:
The bolded indicates you are a pawn of globalists. It is very unintellectual refer humans as "white or black". The earth I know is inhabited by ONE race and it is human race. You could do yourself good by being fundamentally educated. It is a shame the act of enjoying the free air by Africans depended on the free will of Europeans and Americans. What a lost course.
Who is the globalist here, referring to everyone as human look like what a globalist would say, for your information we are not all humans in the same category, whites are different and they are a little bit Neanderthals, get your facts right and shove your emotions in your ass nobody cares, Original Africans are the only pure humans in existence today. I I wouldn't want to argue with you about your thinking that we let American and Europeans decide whether we breath or choke, how do I expect you to know a thing when you don't even know the difference between the blacks and whites, you certainly overrated your head which leaves you behind most times and you sound stupid,
Re: This Why It Will Be Hard For Nigeria To Divide by AlexBells(op): 8:12am On Oct 05, 2020
Fash20:
You said "biggest" what does big mean pls?
Abeg try and read with your complete head Biko, did you not see @1.3 billion population...
Re: This Why It Will Be Hard For Nigeria To Divide by Fash20: 8:18am On Oct 05, 2020
AlexBells:
Abeg try and read with your complete head Biko, did you not see @1.3 billion population...
I don't have to see anything. Use appropriate word.
Re: This Why It Will Be Hard For Nigeria To Divide by AlexBells(op): 8:53am On Oct 05, 2020
DerideGull:
If the bolded did not want Nigeria to dismember it is solely on their economic interest not Nigerian interest. It took bold stance of Donald Trump to slightly shake off many countries which have been on free lunch at USA. I do not care whose interest the division of the shithole called Nigeria disrupts. I simply want unconditional disintegration. If the disintegration of the cesspit called Nigeria would engender the end of Igbo land, I say so be it. I sue for Republic of Igbo land.
Does it look like the world is run on selflessness or selfishness, the problem of Africans is over estimating their own strength, are you more powerful than Israel did not take international influence to grant Jerusalem as the capital, are you more powerful than China, don't you see how UK is messing with their life with HingKong, are you more powerful than Korea, did it not international impact to break them in two, the worst you can do as an insider is to engulf yourself in war, which the side that will win will depend a lot on international support, you think statehood is childs play and next time when you wish to use your wipe out rhetoric, do leave my beloved Igboland out of it or your stupid head will be the first to be ground and mixed in explosive but we are never being wiped out get it
Re: This Why It Will Be Hard For Nigeria To Divide by AlexBells(op): 8:55am On Oct 05, 2020
Fash20:
I don't have to see anything. Use appropriate word.
Thank God you know you got issue of the sight, that's why you don't have to see anything but urge I use the right word, you could have simply stated you are visually or lexical impaired so I could have sent you a voice note or use other means of communication suitable for your kind of person
Re: This Why It Will Be Hard For Nigeria To Divide by Sinzumoney: 9:04am On Oct 05, 2020
Big lie countries will support Nigeria breaking up you want to no why. Nigeria keeps acting like the giant of Africa and many African countries are tired of it especially west African countries and France because Nigeria continuous to interfere in France former colony and they are angry so if France is supporting then the Western world will follow expect Britain because of oil which the new countries can easily negotiate with them
Re: This Why It Will Be Hard For Nigeria To Divide by Nobody: 9:13am On Oct 05, 2020
AlexBells:
I do know that Nigeria is not dividing anytime soon, not because the people in Nigeria don't want her to divide but mostly because the people out of Nigeria won't want her to divide.

The rest of the international community wouldn't want Nigeria to divide, maybe Republican wing of American politicking may fancy it a bit but from UK, to Russia, to China while they all want Nigeria intact, US may remain neutral, but the majority of American interests would be in a single Nigeria.

That's why Nigeria can not divide, the rest of the countries like Germany, Spain, Japan, Isreal, Saudi etc are not power brokers and their interest won't matter much, France can't have a say here and they better stay out, as this is a UK enclave, so every reasonable oversea power want Nigeria intact.
Your naiveity says it all. You sit in your small room in your small village and dream that the whiteman is interested in your success? Think. You are still living on aids and not aware the aids you get is a fraction of the exploitation of your resources. Think. Why would UK care about a united Nigeria, safe for what it can get? If UK, EU, US perceive that Niger-Delta have the capacity and will to break away tommorrow, their socalled aliancewill fade away.
Re: This Why It Will Be Hard For Nigeria To Divide by AlexBells(op): 9:15am On Oct 05, 2020
Sinzumoney:
Big lie countries will support Nigeria breaking up you want to no why. Nigeria keeps acting like the giant of Africa and many African countries are tired of it especially west African countries and France because Nigeria continuous to interfere in France former colony and they are angry so if France is supporting then the Western world will follow expect Britain because of oil which the new countries can easily negotiate with them
Does the word "western" look French to you, when they talk about western countries do you think France come up there in the top 5, France is a unique and rival civilisation, I had always made it clear that France is inconsequential in the Nigerian affairs, left for France the country should have divided a long time ago
Re: This Why It Will Be Hard For Nigeria To Divide by 2by40ft: 9:16am On Oct 05, 2020
BigSarah:
Nigeria is completely useless to the international community now a total liability...
During the oil boom era and prediction of economic prosperity in the 70s that’s was when Nigeria mattered a little , in 20yrs if this country remains then truly that’s a modern miracle.
How someone can be so ignorant about his country like this baffles reality
Re: This Why It Will Be Hard For Nigeria To Divide by ayenale1(m): 9:21am On Oct 05, 2020
We need the "joiner" in the person of Lord Lugard to disjoin the "joinees" that is the Nigeria people.
Re: This Why It Will Be Hard For Nigeria To Divide by AlexBells(op): 9:33am On Oct 05, 2020
Amitez:
Your naiveity says it all. You sit in your small room in your small village and dream that the whiteman is interested in your success? Think. You are still living on aids and not aware the aids you get is a fraction of the exploitation of your resources. Think. Why would UK care about a united Nigeria, safe for what it can get? If UK, EU, US perceive that Niger-Delta have the capacity and will to break away tommorrow, their socalled aliancewill fade away.
You stand in your mansion in your own planet in the milky way galaxy and think that the white man dont care about our success you are a fool, whether I live in a hurt or not is not your business, your business should be getting smarter for someone with internet access in this age, you really sound backward
Re: This Why It Will Be Hard For Nigeria To Divide by Sinzumoney: 9:34am On Oct 05, 2020
AlexBells:
Does the word "western" look French to you, when they talk about western countries do you think France come up there in the top 5, France is a unique and rival civilisation, I had always made it clear that France is inconsequential in the Nigerian affairs, left for France the country should have divided a long time ago
France is part of the Western whether you like it or not.
Re: This Why It Will Be Hard For Nigeria To Divide by BigSarah(f): 9:35am On Oct 05, 2020
2by40ft:
How someone can be so ignorant about his country like this baffles reality
Feed me with wisdom, wise one
Re: This Why It Will Be Hard For Nigeria To Divide by AlexBells(op): 9:39am On Oct 05, 2020
Sinzumoney:
France is part of the Western whether you like it or not.
Did I say that France is not a western country, I only said France is inconsequential in the Nigerian affair and even among western countries, France don't come up top 5, western countries does not always imply Europe
Re: This Why It Will Be Hard For Nigeria To Divide by DerideGull(m): 9:43am On Oct 05, 2020
AlexBells:
Does it look like the world is run on selflessness or selfishness, the problem of Africans is over estimating their own strength, are you more powerful than Israel did not take international influence to grant Jerusalem as the capital, are you more powerful than China, don't you see how UK is messing with their life with HingKong, are you more powerful than Korea, did it not international impact to break them in two, the worst you can do as an insider is to engulf yourself in war, which the side that will win will depend a lot on international support, you think statehood is childs play and next time when you wish to use your wipe out rhetoric, do leave my beloved Igboland out of it or your stupid head will be the first to be ground and mixed in explosive but we are never being wiped out get it
From the above crap, I do not think people in your class need freedom. It is said that freedom does not come cheaply. It takes blood and gut to achieve freedom.
Re: This Why It Will Be Hard For Nigeria To Divide by SIRTee15: 9:44am On Oct 05, 2020
DerideGull:
The bolded indicates you are a pawn of globalists. It is very unintellectual to refer humans as "white or black". The earth I know is inhabited by ONE race and it is human race. You could do yourself good by being fundamentally educated. It is a shame the act of enjoying the free air by Africans depended on the free will of Europeans and Americans. What a lost course.
Forget this idealistic talk....race is still very much valid and important in the 21st century.
Why is China trying to displace America at the top in order to become the sole global superpower.
Power is shifting east and the West are concerned. According to u, why should they be worried? Are we not the same race?
Even within a country, race is everything. Donald trump refused to condemn white supremacist on national tv despite repeated attempt to make him do so.

Alexbell is right. U guys are just being emotional.
Nigeria will never breakup peacefully except the international community approves.
And right now, they love the present state of nigeria- big but useless, a non-competitive, largely consuming nation with dumb leaders that can be easily exploited.
That's what they wanted to make of Russia until Putin took over.
They also won't let Nigeria descend into anarchy due to the potential overwhelming refugee crisis.
Just like they did with Abiola, Abacha, niger delta crisis n even former president jonathan; they will rearrange the political system to ensure Nigeria unity continues.

The only time the western nation will consider breaking up nigeria is when a nigerian leader makes the country a powerful n productive nation, setting the pace for the liberation of the black race.
Re: This Why It Will Be Hard For Nigeria To Divide by AlexBells(op): 9:48am On Oct 05, 2020
DerideGull:
From the above crap, I do not think people in your class need freedom. It is said that freedom does not come cheaply. It takes blood and gut to achieve freedom.
Stupid guts I think, one of the most remarkable freedom was the American freedom, but even at then America had to leverage on the unfavourable state of the UK in Europe to win freedom when the enemies of UK in Europe like France and Spain had to support US, Africans and India didn't deserve the free way we got our freedom, if we shed real blood for our freedom, goons like you would understand better before they instigate violence
Re: This Why It Will Be Hard For Nigeria To Divide by AlexBells(op): 9:57am On Oct 05, 2020
Yokol:
Pls friendd,am new here. I am an electronic and communication engineer,from university of nigeria nsukka..pls can anyone help me with advice,i want to migrate to germany soon.
If you really got the qualifications above and you know what you did, you don't need to leave the country, moving in to Germany and settling down will require at least 2 million, with 2 million you can start your communication business in Nigeria with 1 million keep the remaining one million in your account, thank me letter in 5 years time, I know you may not need this advice but someone somewhere could need it, those countries you are rushing to someone had to stay back to build it...If you don't have investment idea, contact me, if you decide to stay in Nigeria, I will give you business guide for free
Re: This Why It Will Be Hard For Nigeria To Divide by Fash20: 12:18pm On Oct 05, 2020
AlexBells:
Thank God you know you got issue of the sight, that's why you don't have to see anything but urge I use the right word, you could have simply stated you are visually or lexical impaired so I could have sent you a voice note or use other means of communication suitable for your kind of person
Again... I didn't say I cannot see. I just pointed out a mistake. We're all humans we make mistakes. Simple

Re: This Why It Will Be Hard For Nigeria To Divide by Sinzumoney: 12:41pm On Oct 05, 2020
AlexBells:
Did I say that France is not a western country, I only said France is inconsequential in the Nigerian affair and even among western countries, France don't come up top 5, western countries does not always imply Europe
actually Western world consists of US and Western Europe ans France really has a say in the Western world
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