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Re: Was A Curse To Blame For Losses Suffered By Tithers Because Of Covid19? by Nobody: 10:32pm On Oct 03, 2020
CodeTemplar:
The point is why did God permit it against job.
To prove a point to the devil that He would and will always outwit him?
Re: Was A Curse To Blame For Losses Suffered By Tithers Because Of Covid19? by Nobody: 10:35pm On Oct 03, 2020
desiredhome:
The reason God allowed Job's losses is an elementary topic....... it's thought in junior primary school and even in children classes in the churches.....but unfortunately these pulpit bandits will rather replace those topics with tithes, seeds, sacrificial offerings etc in their children manure.......
Imagine Oyedepo teaching that children are to pay tithes in his Churches.. what a Shame
Did you deliberately play on the word expression "children's manual" to get "children's manure"? It's kinda funny if you did.
Re: Was A Curse To Blame For Losses Suffered By Tithers Because Of Covid19? by Nobody: 10:38pm On Oct 03, 2020
CodeTemplar:
Saying things implicitly doesn't equate to lie unless you be decided to take stúpidity to a new level.
God says He will rebuke the devourer if tithe is paid. Job, a just man, is exposed to the devourer along the line. it is fundamental and commonsensical to infer that job didn't tithe. If he had tithed, why will he be exposed to the devourer in the first place? That doesn't make the God or the one inferring(Oyedepo) wrong.
So Job started paying tithes when he lost everything and was sick? That was why God rebuked the devourer and restored everything back to him? For the sake of everything scripturally sane I hope that's not what you're hitting at?
Re: Was A Curse To Blame For Losses Suffered By Tithers Because Of Covid19? by Nobody: 10:40pm On Oct 03, 2020
CodeTemplar:
You are deéply dáft.
Nice and logical argument you've made there.
Re: Was A Curse To Blame For Losses Suffered By Tithers Because Of Covid19? by Nobody: 10:41pm On Oct 03, 2020
CodeTemplar:
I already know why but need to make sure you do too.
Based on all you've posted about this topic, I really doubt you do. But hey! That's just me!
Re: Was A Curse To Blame For Losses Suffered By Tithers Because Of Covid19? by jesusjnr2020(op): 10:45pm On Oct 03, 2020
HedwigesMaduro:
You don't need all the name calling bro. Except you're trying to drag yourself to the level of those you're trying to correct.
Okay bro.

Thanks.
Re: Was A Curse To Blame For Losses Suffered By Tithers Because Of Covid19? by Nobody: 10:49pm On Oct 03, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
Okay bro.
Thanks.
You're welcome.
Re: Was A Curse To Blame For Losses Suffered By Tithers Because Of Covid19? by MuttleyLaff: 11:13pm On Oct 03, 2020
CodeTemplar:
The point is why did God permit it against Job.
There is a western part of the country colloquial, that says:
"Ti ogun, ẹni, ba, daniloju, a maa, jẹnlẹngẹ, fi gba ori" which when loosely translated, means:
"When you have confidence in your juju charm, you can knack or smack it on your head, safely and gently without worrying about having any problem"

God had so much pride and faith in Job, he was proud to show off Job to Satan, asking whether or not, Satan, from gallivanting upandan the earth, had at all did notice Job, His servant ...

Apparently, Satan had made previous unsuccessful attempts to get at Job, when he inadvertently confessed about the impregnable hedge that God had protectively placed round about Job.

HedwigesMaduro:
To prove a point to the devil that He would and will always outwit him?
"6One day when the sons of God came to stand in front of the LORD, Satan the Accuser came along with them.
7The LORD asked Satan, "Where have you come from?" Satan answered the LORD, "From wandering all over the earth."
8The LORD asked Satan, "Have you thought about my servant Job? No one in the world is like him! He is a man of integrity: He is decent, he fears God, and he stays away from evil."
9Satan answered the LORD, "Haven't you given Job a reason to fear God?
10Haven't you put a protective fence around him, his home, and everything he has? You have blessed everything he does. His cattle have spread out over the land.
11But now stretch out your hand, and strike everything he has. I bet he'll curse you to your face."
12The LORD told Satan, "Everything he has is in your power, but you must not lay a hand on him!" Then Satan left the LORD's presence.
"
- Job 1:6-12

God doesnt outwit, that's something within the purview of Satan Outwitting, is one of Satan's modus operandi, not and never God's.

The point why God permitted the dare challenge to happen to Job, is to let Satan know that he is a loser, any place, any day and forever all the time, besides God has so much trust and confidence in Job, and Job justified God's complete faith in him with flying colours.
Re: Was A Curse To Blame For Losses Suffered By Tithers Because Of Covid19? by Nobody: 11:26pm On Oct 03, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
There is a western part of the country colloquial, that says:
"Ti ogun, ẹni, ba, daniloju, a maa, jẹnlẹngẹ, fi gba ori" which when loosely translated, means:
"When you have confidence in your juju charm, you can knack or smack it on your head, safely and gently without worrying about having any problem"

God had so much pride and faith in Job, he was proud to show off Job to Satan, asking whether or not, Satan, from gallivanting upandan the earth, had at all did notice Job, His servant ...

Apparently, Satan had made previous unsuccessful attempts to get at Job, when he inadvertently confessed about the impregnable hedge that God had protectively placed round about Job.

"6One day when the sons of God came to stand in front of the LORD, Satan the Accuser came along with them.
7The LORD asked Satan, "Where have you come from?" Satan answered the LORD, "From wandering all over the earth."
8The LORD asked Satan, "Have you thought about my servant Job? No one in the world is like him! He is a man of integrity: He is decent, he fears God, and he stays away from evil."
9Satan answered the LORD, "Haven't you given Job a reason to fear God?
10Haven't you put a protective fence around him, his home, and everything he has? You have blessed everything he does. His cattle have spread out over the land.
11But now stretch out your hand, and strike everything he has. I bet he'll curse you to your face."
12The LORD told Satan, "Everything he has is in your power, but you must not lay a hand on him!" Then Satan left the LORD's presence.
"
- Job 1:6-12

God doesnt outwit, that's something within the purview of Satan Outwitting, is one of Satan's modus operandi, not and never God's.

The point why God permitted the dare challenge to happen to Job, is to let Satan know that he is a loser, any place, any day and forever all the time, besides God has so much trust and confidence in Job, and Job justified God's complete faith in him with flying colours.
Maybe I used the word "outwit" in a wrong context. What I actually meant was that He wanted to show Satan that He (God) would, and will always win. But thanks for the correction. Shalom.
Re: Was A Curse To Blame For Losses Suffered By Tithers Because Of Covid19? by desiredhome: 11:37pm On Oct 03, 2020
Tboyfrosh123:
what is sarcasm there something written boldly in the book of Malachi 3 that if you don't pay that the opposites of the prayers made for tithers would be yours more so Job story was back in the days of moses pls be guided oo
You can not take only one law out of the thousand laws in the old testament because it has to do with money....lol
Christ has redeemed us and we are in the dispensation of grace through Christ......
Malachi 3 also talked about bringing the tithe into the store house so that there will be meat(food) in the house not so that the Pastorprenours will be living large while the members are hungry.....
If we are Christian (Christ-like) pls can you tell/quote from the Bible where Jesus paid tithe?

Giving to God means giving to the needy, the poor amongst you, the widows, the orphans......
But the reverse is the case in Nigeria.....
Why should I be donating 10% of my income plus other seeds to a mere motal whom they inturn build estates, expensive schools with that I cannot afford/be a beneficiary of?

They only instill fear in you to make you believe that if you don't give them 10% of your salary in will be poor......

Maybe Dangote, Mike Adenuga etc have being paying their tithe to ....... That is why they are rich......
Poverty never kill you grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Was A Curse To Blame For Losses Suffered By Tithers Because Of Covid19? by desiredhome: 11:59pm On Oct 03, 2020
HedwigesMaduro:
Did you deliberately play on the word expression "children's manual" to get "children's manure"? It's kinda funny if you did.
I don't think you understand the comment you qouted....... please. .
Re: Was A Curse To Blame For Losses Suffered By Tithers Because Of Covid19? by MuttleyLaff:
HedwigesMaduro:
Maybe I used the word "outwit" in a wrong context. What I actually meant was that He wanted to show Satan that He (God) would, and will always win ...
Tbh with you, it really was a matter of God showing satan up, for what and who Satan really is. It's just a shame, that Satan has no shame because he sure looked stupid upon inflicting his worst on Job, Job was still unflinching "No retreat. No surrender" determination throughout the whole tasking Satan from every possible angle relentless onslaught ordeal.

I mean why at God's glowing remark about Job, couldn't Satan just be happy for Job and his lot, but instead was mad keen and eager to inflict serious physical grievous bodily harm, damage and ruin to Job, his family and everything thing in sight that Job owns, if not for taking the life of Job off the cards, that would have served to be Satan's first pot-shot. I mean what manner of despicable and nauseating being does something like that, if not killjoy Satan, smh

HedwigesMaduro:
... But thanks for the correction. Shalom.
Dont worry about that brother because as it happens, a candle loses nothing by lighting up another candle, lmso.
Re: Was A Curse To Blame For Losses Suffered By Tithers Because Of Covid19? by Nobody: 8:32am On Oct 04, 2020
desiredhome:
I don't think you understand the comment you qouted....... please. .
I actually do understand the comment. When I saw manure there I assumed you meant manual but deliberately played on the words.
Re: Was A Curse To Blame For Losses Suffered By Tithers Because Of Covid19? by desiredhome: 9:01am On Oct 04, 2020
HedwigesMaduro:
I actually do understand the comment. When I saw manure there I assumed you meant manual but deliberately played on the words.
Ok is manual not manure.... thank you for understanding
Re: Was A Curse To Blame For Losses Suffered By Tithers Because Of Covid19? by Tboyfrosh123(m): 10:44am On Oct 04, 2020
desiredhome:
You can not take only one law out of the thousand laws in the old testament because it has to do with money....lol
Christ has redeemed us and we are in the dispensation of grace through Christ......
Malachi 3 also talked about bringing the tithe into the store house so that there will be meat(food) in the house not so that the Pastorprenours will be living large while the members are hungry.....
If we are Christian (Christ-like) pls can you tell/quote from the Bible where Jesus paid tithe?

Giving to God means giving to the needy, the poor amongst you, the widows, the orphans......
But the reverse is the case in Nigeria.....
Why should I be donating 10% of my income plus other seeds to a mere motal whom they inturn build estates, expensive schools with that I cannot afford/be a beneficiary of?

They only instill fear in you to make you believe that if you don't give them 10% of your salary in will be poor......

Maybe Dangote, Mike Adenuga etc have being paying their tithe to ....... That is why they are rich......
Poverty never kill you grin grin grin grin grin
but you should pay it either way it could be right or wrong more so leave the pastor with th judge ment of God if there don't utilize it well it over to them pls do the needy

and did mike adenuga ever told you he didn't tithe pls am begging pay your tithe oo
Re: Was A Curse To Blame For Losses Suffered By Tithers Because Of Covid19? by desiredhome:
Tboyfrosh123:
but you should pay it either way it could be right or wrong more so leave the pastor with th judge ment of God if there don't utilize it well it over to them pls do the needy

and did mike adenuga ever told you he didn't tithe pls am begging pay your tithe oo
Life itself is all about giving.. "blessed is the hand that giveth than the hand that taketh"......
In giving you give to those in need, give with passion/Love.......

Giving your 10% etc every month to an aclaimed richest man while thousands around you are dying of hungry is foolishness......
Contributing to an aclaimed G.O that doesn't know if you exist, that will build facilities that you can't access is stupidity...

Financial success in life doesn't depends on you giving tithe since you can't prove it from the Bible....this is only a believe of the poor/lazy that is keeping Africa poorer and backward.......and the conmen uses to defruad you.....

Today we Nigerians are indebted to China, including those that collelect tithe/seeds from you, the electronic gadgets you use in your churches etc are from China..... the question is, is China a tithe paying Nation? yet you depend on them for almost everything you are using in life/Nigeria.....how foolish can that be?

Jesus encourages the rich man that ask him how he can became a Christian and Jesus ask him to sell all that he has and give to the poor....then he was angry and left.....

Knowing God/Serving God is not just collecting money/paying tithe......how many life are you affecting positively today?
Paying tithe or whatever donations you made to a church without love/obeying God's principle is a wasted efforts.......

And don't be deceived, God will not come down to judge these charlatans, He has given you brain/spirit of descernment to distinguish between a good and bad spirit....
Re: Was A Curse To Blame For Losses Suffered By Tithers Because Of Covid19? by desiredhome: 12:05pm On Oct 04, 2020
Tboyfrosh123:
but you should pay it either way it could be right or wrong more so leave the pastor with th judge ment of God if there don't utilize it well it over to them pls do the needy

and did mike adenuga ever told you he didn't tithe pls am begging pay your tithe oo
Lol at the bolded....why should I do a thing knowing that it's wrong..... that is a sin.....
Re: Was A Curse To Blame For Losses Suffered By Tithers Because Of Covid19? by Tboyfrosh123(m): 10:02pm On Oct 04, 2020
desiredhome:
Lol at the bolded....why should I do a thing knowing that it's wrong..... that is a sin.....
I leave you for judgement then since you won't harken to the word now
Re: Was A Curse To Blame For Losses Suffered By Tithers Because Of Covid19? by desiredhome: 10:33pm On Oct 04, 2020
Tboyfrosh123:
I leave you for judgement then since you won't harken to the word now
The judgment is already here, " the Bible says what so ever a man sow is what he will reap..... majority of we Nigerians have been sowing foolishness/laziness and that is why we are Suffering in poverty.......

Please harken to the word of God, not to the deceit of these Pastorprenours/pulpit bandits
Re: Was A Curse To Blame For Losses Suffered By Tithers Because Of Covid19? by Tboyfrosh123(m): 11:30am On Oct 05, 2020
desiredhome:
The judgment is already here, " the Bible says what so ever a man sow is what he will reap..... majority of we Nigerians have been sowing foolishness/laziness and that is why we are Suffering in poverty.......

Please harken to the word of God, not to the deceit of these Pastorprenours/pulpit bandits
na you know
Re: Was A Curse To Blame For Losses Suffered By Tithers Because Of Covid19? by Tboyfrosh123(m): 9:18pm On Oct 05, 2020
desiredhome:
The judgment is already here, " the Bible says what so ever a man sow is what he will reap..... majority of we Nigerians have been sowing foolishness/laziness and that is why we are Suffering in poverty.......

Please harken to the word of God, not to the deceit of these Pastorprenours/pulpit bandits
even with your quote you are commuting a grave sin by talking against men of God pls brother make changes before it too late
Re: Was A Curse To Blame For Losses Suffered By Tithers Because Of Covid19? by desiredhome: 9:32pm On Oct 05, 2020
Tboyfrosh123:
even with your quote you are commuting a grave sin by talking against men of God pls brother make changes before it too late
Don't be deceived.....these people are opposite of what you think they are......
They are not serving God in heaven but god of Mammon.(God of this world) ......

If Jesus was greedy as they are today, He would've bow to Satan when Satan promise to give Him the whole riches in the world..... But Jesus answered Satan and said "get thee behind me..".for you shall not tempt the Lord your God.....

If these charlatans were doing the work of God and with the high number of your men of God as you call them, Nigeria won't be sufffering this much.....

We will continue to correct them until they come back to their right position.......I know very well that they did not start like this.....
Re: Was A Curse To Blame For Losses Suffered By Tithers Because Of Covid19? by Tboyfrosh123(m): 10:15pm On Oct 05, 2020
desiredhome:
Don't be deceived.....these people are opposite of what you think they are......
They are not serving God in heaven but god of Mammon.(God of this world) ......

If Jesus was greedy as they are today, He would've bow to Satan when Satan promise to give Him the whole riches in the world..... But Jesus answered Satan and said "get thee behind me..".for you shall not tempt the Lord your God.....

If these charlatans were doing the work of God and with the high number of your men of God as you call them, Nigeria won't be sufffering this much.....

We will continue to correct them until they come back to their right position.......I know very well that they did not start like this.....
give oolnto caeser what is caesaer and give God what his for God pls do the needful oo
Re: Was A Curse To Blame For Losses Suffered By Tithers Because Of Covid19? by desiredhome: 10:17pm On Oct 05, 2020
Tboyfrosh123:
give oolnto caeser what is caesaer and give God what his for God pls do the needful oo
Lol grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Was A Curse To Blame For Losses Suffered By Tithers Because Of Covid19? by Tboyfrosh123(m): 10:21pm On Oct 05, 2020
desiredhome:
Lol grin grin grin grin grin
have tell you all I have if you like desist if you lie don't as if your 10% won't make you see heaven I pity you
Re: Was A Curse To Blame For Losses Suffered By Tithers Because Of Covid19? by desiredhome: 11:21am On Oct 06, 2020
Tboyfrosh123:
have tell you all I have if you like desist if you lie don't as if your 10% won't make you see heaven I pity you
huh
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