Nickshrapnel:

Gmajor:


You'll have to till at least 2030

Nickshrapnel:

Nickshrapnel:

Gmajor:



True.

All these mumu superhero (esp Batman and Superman) need to understand that there is a time to kill.

For example, Batman captures Joker, tosses him into Arkham asylum and next week he is out. He then goes on a crime spree that leads to the death of a lot of people till Batman captures him and tosses him into Arkham assylum.

Rinse and repeat.


The joker has proved that he is irredeemably bad and will kill whenever he gets the chance. And to make matters worse he is also able to radicalize people to be just as bad as him (Harley Quinn and his henchmen)

If Batman can tell himself the truth, he will realize that everytime the joker kills someone, it's his fault.

pu7pl3:


Nobody knows how to blame themselves for lives lost more than Bruce, every life is important to him even Joker's own...he has vowed never to kill cos he doesn't want to be like the people he fights against...all due respect but wonder woman won't last long in Gotham

pu7pl3:


Nobody knows how to blame themselves for lives lost more than Bruce, every life is important to him even Joker's own...he has vowed never to kill cos he doesn't want to be like the people he fights against...all due respect but wonder woman won't last long in Gotham

pu7pl3:


Nobody knows how to blame themselves for lives lost more than Bruce, every life is important to him even Joker's own...he has vowed never to kill cos he doesn't want to be like the people he fights against...all due respect but wonder woman won't last long in Gotham

Gmajor:


Needless killing is wrong.
But something have to be done for the greater good.
That fact he blames himself is not enough. Joker has no reason to. Still be alive

Nickshrapnel:
What do you mean with this last statement?

Minemrys:

diana kills though. When she sees it necessary. If it was clark running gotham on the other hand, joker w0n't be a problem.

pu7pl3:


she would become broke, frustrated and with a severe case of PTSD

Gmajor:


Needless killing is wrong.
But something have to be done for the greater good.
That fact he blames himself is not enough. Joker has no reason to. Still be alive

Minemrys:

yup. And i think the writers should be blamed for n0t creating a c0mpelling reas0n for why joker is alive. In real life, it's cos joker is a m0ney grabber for sales. But the superman villain luthor is better written that we d0n't get tired of Lex in the c0mics. That's why i d0n't like the batman character and its st0ries atimes. Too inc0nsistent.

pu7pl3:


Just say you don't like Batman and move bro, Joker is the best written villain in DC that's why people love him..Lex is always 2nd place

pu7pl3:


Joker that has outsmarted Clark every single time they met...Joker will drive Clark crazy

Nickshrapnel:
Isis?

pu7pl3:


Batman doesn't run Gotham city by just beating up villains bro, it takes a toll on your mind cos it's a different breed of crazy and Diana would be overwhelmed on the long run

pu7pl3:


first of all it's fiction and the Joker is the most iconic Batman villain, so he is always around

2- nobody stays dead in comics, they eventually come back..even when Joker has "died" in the comics he always comes back..soo what's the point of killing him and killing him?

3- Bruce in the comics knows how thin that line can be and the kind of people he is facing, those Gotham villains are a different breed, any slip up in morals from Bruce will be detrimental to his fight

Minemrys:

that's the angle you are l0oking at it fr0m. Diana is better poised to handle gotham psychologically than bruce. Bruce is crazy himself. Diana isn't. If diana were to run gotham, she'd kn0w where to make c0mpr0mises and where n0t to. She'd be dipl0matic in areas where bruce tend to be vengeful. Basically, i think batman is c0mplicit for why gotham became what it is, a crazy hub. Diana as sole protector wouldn't have inspired crazies like two face, harle quinn, riddler, joker on society. These guys if u check it are in s0me way, a representati0n of batman. Joker is a reminder of how far bruce could go in his quest, 2 face; an insecurity of if bruce can keep up without psychologically shutting down to bec0me the bad guy at the end, harle; the negative spectrum of Bruce's obsessi0n with the crazy, and riddler, you can fill that in. These villains are just s0me part of batman that he inspired on society. Diana wouldn't.

Minemrys:

there is s0mething you are misunderstanding, in actuality we aren't arguing why joker is alive, the argument is, why is Joker after being caught always taken to arkham when he ends up getting out only to do m0re damage? You sure can agree the CB writers didn't do alot in that aspect. It makes no sense. I mean, logically, he wouldn't be sent to arkham again if all he does was repeat and rinse. Logically, the law would've found a way to get rid of him if it proves he is very much a danger to society even when mentally challenged. In real life, it's either they place him in a medically induced c0ma, mercy kill him or place him in a military guarded off the b0ok facility which logically l0oking at it is expensive.

So you genuinely think all these things have never been done to the Joker before? Lmaooooooooo, Minemrys you dey sleep on top bike o

This guy literally thinks that no writer in the 80yrs of writing Joker has ever done any of the bolded to him, I don't think there is any form of punishment apart from hanging (which I haven't read about but might be there) that Joker hasn't been through so die all these talk abeg

pu7pl3:


Lol..bro you're talking about the Nolan movies I'm talking about the comics...Batman didn't have any prior connection to 90% of his rouges gallery as the movie tends to suggest...Batman is the hero they need and deserve any other person you put there will crumble

pu7pl3:


So you genuinely think all these things have never been done to the Joker before? Lmaooooooooo, Minemrys you dey sleep on top bike o

This guy literally thinks that no writer in the 80yrs of writing Joker has ever done any of the bolded to him, I don't think there is any form of punishment apart from hanging (which I haven't read about but might be there) that Joker hasn't been through so die all these talk abeg

Nickshrapnel:
I like this new Batman, Nightwing is just, well...Nightwing

Minemrys:

i don't think the writers have explored these things. And if they have, they d0n't let it bear c0nsequences or retc0n it immediately. I mean, readerz can do without joker for about 10 or 5 year gap before he is reintroduced.

Minemrys:

am talking abt the c0mics actually n0t n0lan verse. In n0lan verse, the villains were there before batman i.e joker, bane, ra'as, scarecrow. But in the c0mics, bruce is directly or indirectly resp0nsible for the creati0n of his rogues gallery and gotham's descent to crazies. Gotham was your n0rmal c0rrupt city prior to batman. Batman didn't make it any better. So, if u gave gotham to diana, it'd be a better place cos she'd have the wisd0m to manage it. Batman uses fear, hysteria, rage to rule gotham. But it doesn't work on all bad guys like joker, and others, it works negatively on them. Batman pushed gotham to the wall so hard that it drove people mad. I d0n't see batman as the hero or whatever gotham deserved. Batman is equally a bad guy as his villains.

Minemrys:

i don't think the writers have explored these things. And if they have, they d0n't let it bear c0nsequences or retc0n it immediately. I mean, readerz can do without joker for about 10 or 5 year gap before he is reintroduced .