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Kobojunkie:
Stop pulling verses from different places willy-nilly. None of the verse above have anything to do with this discussion. Focus on what Jesus Christ said first, before you go rushing off elsewhere to what you don't seem to understand.

Aren't we talking from the bible? The Bible is the authority on spiritual matters. I've given more than enough scriptures to prove what I'm saying. Yet you still argue.

Harshirama:
Aren't we talking from the bible? The Bible is the authority on spiritual matters. I've given more than enough scriptures to prove what I'm saying. Yet you still argue.

Every verse in that book comes with a context, so posting random verses, and ignoring the context is akin to installing a room full of monkeys with typewriters and expecting that by clicking around randomly one of them will eventually conjugate the entire English alphabet.

From the much you have posted, it is clear that you are either not even aware of the commandments of Jesus Christ(the New Covenant), or you are vehemently against obeying any and everything that is as commanded by Jesus Christ Himself of your person. Whichever one it is, posting random verses from the letters that Paul, himself a follower of Jesus Christ, wrote of His walk, to other followers of Jesus Christ, does not in any way help your cause at all.
Trying to rebut what Jesus Christ Himself is recorded as saying by posting that which a follower of His says speaks volumes as to the place that Jesus Christ occupies in your life, or do you not think so?

Kobojunkie:
Every verse in that book comes with a context, so posting random verses, and ignoring the context is akin to installing a room full of monkeys with typewriters and expecting that by clicking around randomly one of them will eventually conjugate the entire English alphabet.

From the much you have posted, it is clear that you are either not even aware of the commandments of Jesus Christ(the New Covenant), or you are vehemently against obeying any and everything that is as commanded by Jesus Christ Himself of your person. Whichever one it is, posting random verses from the letters that Paul, himself a follower of Jesus Christ, wrote of His walk, to other followers of Jesus Christ, does not in any way help your cause at all.
Trying to rebut what Jesus Christ Himself is recorded as saying by posting that which a follower of His says speaks volumes as to the place that Jesus Christ occupies in your life, or do you not think so?

John 13:34-35
[34]A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
[35]By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

Isn't this Jesus too? What do you mean by quoting Paul doesn't help? The epistles are to the believer, they are the fulfillment and explanation of what Christ has done. See, let's just end the argument. I pray your eyes of understanding will be enlightened

Harshirama:
John 13:34-35
[34]A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
[35]By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

Isn't this Jesus too? What do you mean by quoting Paul doesn't help? The epistles are to the believer, they are the fulfillment and explanation of what Christ has done. See, let's just end the argument. I pray your eyes of understanding will be enlightened

Jesus Christ, the New Covenant, consists of about 46 commandments in total. Posting just one of them is no sign that you are aware of their existence. Here we have been discussing the commandments He put forth for those who want to become His followers, yet not once have you been able to hint at being aware of them.

Leave the letters of paul and focus on the words of Jesus Christ since Paul does not table the commandments of Jesus Christ in any of His letters.

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ, the New Covenant, consists of about 46 commandments in total. Posting just one of them is no sign that you are aware of their existence. Here we have been discussing the commandments He put forth for those who want to become His followers, yet not once have you been able to hint at being aware of them.

Leave the letters of paul and focus on the words of Jesus Christ since Paul does not table the commandments of Jesus Christ in any of His letters.

I give up. From 10 commandments to 46 commandments�

Harshirama:
I give up. From 10 commandments to 46 commandments�

10 commandments ke? LOL

The old covenant is made up of a total of 613 commandments. The one you call the 10 commandments were just the first 10 on which the rest where built on.

The New Covenant, Jesus Christ, is a separate covenant from the Old covenant, and it has a total of only about 46 commandments, that is why Jesus Christ said that His yoke is easy and His burden is light(compared to the Old Covenant, that is).

Matthew 11 vs 27-30 (ESV)
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27. All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.
28. Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
30. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”

Harshirama:
Which commandments? You're talking from a works based standpoint. Relying on your efforts instead of the holy spirit.

All men have works and must so have and EVERY JUDGEMENT OF THE LORD AND LAW IS BASED ON WORKS.

And All Judgements Fall into 2 Classes, to wit-1)That Which you Did (Acts)or
2) That which you Failed to Do (Omissions)

Together, these are your Works for which all men Shall be Judged For as Written Revelation 20:12

"And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

Thus, Exactly as Mary told the servants at the wedding at Cana "Whatever, He tells you to do, do it"

That is my Stand!

I know, but many have not come to know that they are foolish, therefore, Obeying "Whatever He has told us" is not going to be Easy to comply with and neither are they going to apply that obedience properly after the passage of time, nor will they continue to abide with the Commandments.

This is one of the areas that The Holy Spirit aids us, in that, in teaching us all things, we Acquire Understanding and Knowledge and therefore we walk in the Way of The Lord, Easily and Pleasurably rather than in Suffering and hardship which we first meet.

Kobojunkie:
10 commandments ke? LOL

The old covenant is made up of a total of 613 commandments. The one you call the 10 commandments were just the first 10 on which the rest where built on.

The New Covenant, Jesus Christ, is a separate covenant from the Old covenant, and it has a total of only about 46 commandments, that is why Jesus Christ said that His yoke is easy and His burden is light(compared to the Old Covenant, that is).

Exhibit your alleged 46 Commandments and let us see if it does not fall into the Commandments Issued at Sinai!