Where did God approve of matrimony?
Or is that what you were told?

jmoore:
Fortunately, Pope is not God.

The only marriage approved by God is a Union between man and woman.

Any other behavior outside this, is a rebellion against God's standard.

Before you try to disagree, pause and think.

No single human being on earth came from homosexual reproduction.


If you are going to accept other forms of sexual behaviours outside heterosexual. Then you have to embrace the rest like humans having sex with animals, paedophiles etc.

AuthegaPRIMUS:
Where did God approve of matrimony? Or is that what you were told?

Introduce your belief system before an answer is provided.

The Pope is infallible. He can never go wrong.

This is why christians enjoy their lawless religion, because their top pastors or Pope dictate the religion not God or the what is in the scripture. And some of them are gay, why will they be ashamed of propagating it. Imagine a religion without penal codes, you go against the laws and no body will hold you accountable but I believe no civilize person will like to live in lawless society or system because even barbaric people have rules which they adhere to. It is just there way Christianity is, Christians don't bother yourselves very soon he will realise another bullshit, It is normal. So what other atrocity or act of sin remain?

Odingo1:

Nigerians use to misunderstand things, he is referring to law of a country not the church. He is saying like Nigerian government should accommodate the gays and lesbians but the church cannot ordain a gay marriage. That gays have rights to live and have children in a national civil law not the church.

have children, can a man give birth , or can same sex reproduce abeg forget that thing this man is gay also if he support them

1StopRudeness:



This is another paragraph in the text ...

“Francis has suggested in past interviews that he is not against civil unions, but this is the first time as Pope that he has directly come out in favor of them”

I didnt invent this one either

I have asked many of you people here to show me where he endorsed civil union for homosexual in the past or now. I need a quotation. Pls show me. This task should be very easy for you.

The writer said " but this is the first time as Pope that he has directly come out in favor of them”

The following is the so called statement of support from the Pope:

“Homosexual people have the right to be in the family, they are children of God, they have the right to a family. No one can be thrown out of the family or made life miserable for that. What we have to do is a law of civil coexistence, they have the right to be legally covered. "

I asked you before to show me how you and the writer came to this conclusion from the Pope's statement above.

Like I said before, if you had read the story properly, you should have observed that there was nothing like civil union in his statement. All he was talking about was tolerance, peaceful coexistence and love.

LordReed:

Who created Steve? LoLz

LordReed:

Who created Steve? LoLz

LordReed:
Might be a game changer, I certainly hope so.

After all these years, you are still steep in sin.
All knees shall bow to Jesus, including yours.

jmoore:
Fortunately, Pope is not God.

The only marriage approved by God is a Union between man and woman.

Any other behavior outside this, is a rebellion against God's standard.

Before you try to disagree, pause and think.

No single human being on earth came from homosexual reproduction.


If you are going to accept other forms of sexual behaviours outside heterosexual. Then you have to embrace the rest like humans having sex with animals, paedophiles etc.

Pope is not God

chipower:


I have asked many of you people here to show me where he endorsed civil union for homosexual in the past or now. I need a quotation. Pls show me. This task should be very easy for you.

The writer said " but this is the first time as Pope that he has directly come out in favor of them”

The following is the so called statement of support from the Pope:

“Homosexual people have the right to be in the family, they are children of God, they have the right to a family. No one can be thrown out of the family or made life miserable for that. What we have to do is a law of civil coexistence, they have the right to be legally covered. "

I asked you before to show me how you and the writer came to this conclusion from the Pope's statement above.

Like I said before, if you had read the story properly, you should have observed that there was nothing like civil union in his statement. All he was talking about was tolerance, peaceful coexistence and love.

“Homosexual people have the right to be in the family, they are children of God, they have the right to a family”

U have brought it out yourself naaa....why are u still asking me to bring out

Ishilove:
Wow. So we have a gay loving pope

sign of the endtimes

Most people don't know the political nightmare it is once an organisation has a huge international presence. Policies you have to look into and adhere to but I would not go into that.

What I will really like to say about this is that the Pope endorsing same-sex civil unions doesn't mean he wants them to get married.
Civil unions are more like a legal contractual agreement and not the same as marriage which is a solemnization of holy matrimony.

If you believe in women right, the right to freedom of speech, to protest etc but you object to same-sex unions, then you are no different from those who try to stifle women right, free speech and freedom to protest because it doesn't sit well with them.

Also, when Jesus was with us did He or did He not spend time in the midst of sinners and was hated for it.
So why should we always have this self-rigorous attitude that someone is too bad because they are gay and don't deserve love or a basic right to civil union.

zangaozanga:
they will start insulting you for saying the truth, watch out

definitely, the very day I realised the hidden truth about religion, I felt totally free from religious sentiments. Being in bondage religion wise is a big burden. Funniest thing is that the likes of our bishops, pastors, G.Os imams, all know the truth but because they reap heavy financial gains from the falsehood, they can never say the truth for fear of being stoned

1StopRudeness:


It doesn’t matter what people say....the Catholic is not the custodian of the Bible...if they want to alter any context for their members or to favour any narrative.... it’s a free world...


Even the constitution is twisted to favour public office holders ...we know the truth...:and we still follow the constitution ...regardless of how any National Assembly decides to twist it..

you're absolutely correct but changing any narrative in the book totally renders the ones infallible book fallible, meaning the truth will be totally out

iramure:
you're absolutely correct but changing any narrative in the book totally renders the ones infallible book fallible, meaning the truth will be totally out

Even the Bible itself is self-contradictory. In the Old Testament we see a God of violence, of wrath and punishment.
This character is inconsistent to the God we see in the New Testament is all-loving and kind. But Christians always say that God never changes.

Anas09:

After all these years, you are still steep in sin.
All knees shall bow to Jesus, including yours.

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SyberKate:

Even the Bible itself is self-contradictory. In the Old Testament we see a God of violence, of wrath and punishment.
This character is inconsistent to the God we see in the New Testament is all-loving and kind. But Christians always say that God never changes.

with your comment, I just realised more truth about the book. God of old testament and new are two different gods

That will happen when you belief in Thrash.
What a Devil motivated mere whims from vain Mind that is trying to make Immorality thrive on land.
Shioor

1StopRudeness:


“Homosexual people have the right to be in the family, they are children of God, they have the right to a family”

U have brought it out yourself naaa....why are u still asking me to bring out

He was not talking about what you are talking about. He was talking about the church. He was referring to the church as "the family." The family is the church.

The following happened in an interview:

When the director asks him if a homosexual can take his children to church, he replies:

“Homosexual people have the right to be in the family, they are children of God, they have the right to a family. No one can be thrown out of the family or made life miserable for that. What we have to do is a law of civil coexistence, they have the right to be legally covered. "

The Pope was simply saying that homosexuals and their children should not be sent away if they come to worship, they too belong to the family (the church).

The problem with you is that you don't read things properly.

chipower:


He was not talking about what you are talking about. He was talking about the church. He was referring to the church as "the family." The family is the church.

He ddnt mention church....sounds like u are the one desperately trying to change the context....

Gay people have not been chased from church...so why would the pope mean church like someone stays at the church entrance to prevent gay folks from coming in

If you're worried/interested by what Pope Francis said about same-sex civil unions, here are a couple points to keep in mind:

1. Most importantly: Persons are who attracted to other people of the same sex, even those who may identify as part of the LGBTQ community are beloved children of the Father. They are loved by God and by us and they have a place in the Catholic Church and in the human family.

2. Marriage can only take place between a man and a woman in a permanent union open to the procreation of children. Same-sex marriage is an impossibility. The Church will never approve of it.

3. The Catechism also teaches the following: "The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. They do not choose their homosexual condition; for most of them it is a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided." In this regard, some Catholics, including Pope Francis, have suggested that same-sex civil unions could be acceptable. Why? Issues like hospital visitation, etc.

4. Has the Pope changed the teachings of the Church? No. He has an expressed an opinion. Popes are frequently wrong in their opinions especially when speaking off the cuff. They do not have infallible opinions. Catholics are free to disagree with the Holy Father's opinion in this regard.

5. Finally, If we all read the New Testament as much as we obsessed about the latest papal headline we would all be further along in the pursuit of holiness. Jesus is the Lord and the gates of hell cannot prevail against his Church. It is our vocation to focus on him and be faithful in our daily life. +

Father Jonathan Howell

God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve

senbonzakurakageyoshi:
Is this actually kobojunkie or did someone steal her moniker?

Who would dare steal my moniker?

He did not!! He only said they deserve to be respected too and not be judged.

1StopRudeness:


Secondly....u guys choose to ignore research and stick to religion...just like u ignore simple biological facts

Clinical psychologist and behavioral experts have released tons of research on human behavior and raising of children...with respect to same sex union

There are ideally only two kinds of human being on the planet ..male and female.....
Research has shown that it's best for children to have a balance of both genders in their development stages(age 0-6) ...The deficit of either gender usually present consequences on the many children

..that's why they have said it's not the best for children to raised right from scratch by single fathers, single mother, or same gender parents..


2) sex is nature's construct...and like other nature's construct that leads to something greater...sex produces another human being ....that's how humans all over the world have naturally assumed that male/female sex is the idealway to have sex....long before religion came...
it's only natural for people to feel negative or weird about another sexual act that's completely different from nature's construct ...and people have always felt weird about it before religion came...even before it became so common

My point is it's not just about religion as I claim....there are non religious people all over the world that don't agree with same sex....even in liberal america and uk
It's laws that's making people behave civil...I hope u know there was a time when the law jailed homosexuals in the uk..?? It was protest like end sars and the presence of gay people in power that twisted the arm of the law...

Gay people in power that twisted the "arm of law??" pls you deserve an Oscar for clownery

And who the Bleep said they're no two genders??

What biological facts? Have you seen any research that says there is something biological wrong with queers?? Or you're trying to sound smart? The point is y'all only strong defense against someone's human rights is religion!

Yes, they're many barbaric acts that were promoted in the past but human rights movement is trying to correct alot of them!

LMAO...so a man and a woman makes it ideal to raise perfect children when many broken kids are from broken heterosexual kids? When many Nigerian families the husband and wife doesn't even love themselves??

No one said you should like them, stop denying them their human rights when you can't change the way they are and they aren't hurting you or anyone! Simple!

Sex is not sexuality, having sex with the opposite sex won't make queer people have feelings for them. Upon all these epistles you aren't smart to understand that simple logic

1StopRudeness:


This above part of your statement....I hear it alot from the LGBT community and any time I ask, u people can't show proof...u only desperately twist normal animal behavior as homosexuality...

this is very wrong, twisting the use of tongue to clean each other's bodies, and other animal interaction as homosexuality

Homosexuality is about sex, sexual excitement, and sexual attraction...animals don't love, they not capable of higher cognitive functioning. Their sex is even based on pheromone attraction..not physical appearance or beauty, or anyother yardstick that contribute to attraction in humans

So I don't get how you are trying to bring out sexual attraction btw two same sex animals..

So Please can u show proof of homosexuality among animals....cos I don't get what u gay/gay apologist mean by this....

Lmao who said anything about tongue cleaning among animals?? The person was saying a male animal doesn't even climb a fellow male and I'm proving them wrong!

If you're so interested, go and research :

Sex defining heterosexuality is not the LGBTQ fault, that's your sexuality deficit!

Official Christian endorsement for homosexuality; one day these Catholics will be receiving holy communion through the anus.

HuntSon:


Lmao who said anything about tongue cleaning among animals?? The person was saying a male animal doesn't even climb a fellow male and I'm proving them wrong!

If you're so interested, go and research :

Sex defining heterosexuality is not the LGBTQ fault, that's your sexuality deficit!

First ...u claim homosexuality exist in animal...I only asked u to prove it....

I’m a widelife biologist...Oga....animal field is where I am... from cell level to system to behavioral characteristics...so don’t tell me about researching


I pointed out the use of tongue in cleaning each other’s bodies as an example becos gay folks have used it as an example of gay interaction among animals..

HuntSon:


Gay people in power that twisted the "arm of law??" pls you deserve an Oscar for clownery

And who the Bleep said they're no two genders??

What biological facts? Have you seen any research that says there is something biological wrong with queers?? Or you're trying to sound smart? The point is y'all only strong defense against someone's human rights is religion!

Yes, they're many barbaric acts that were promoted in the past but human rights movement is trying to correct alot of them!

LMAO...so a man and a woman makes it ideal to raise perfect children when many broken kids are from broken heterosexual kids? When many Nigerian families the husband and wife doesn't even love themselves??

No one said you should like them, stop denying them their human rights when you can't change the way they are and they aren't hurting you or anyone! Simple!

Sex is not sexuality, having sex with the opposite sex won't make queer people have feelings for them. Upon all these epistles you aren't smart to understand that simple logic

U claimed it was all about religion.....

I only pointed out to u other reasons why people see same sex as weird....if u want to sweep it under hatred...that’s ur cup of tea..

1StopRudeness:


He ddnt mention church....sounds like u are the one desperately trying to change the context....

Gay people have not been chased from church...so why would the pope mean church like someone stays at the church entrance to prevent gay folks from coming in

You are right, he was not referring to the church, but at the time you were wrong because he was not talking about civil union.

Pope was simply saying that the family of those who are homosexuals should not reject them

To make things clearer, I have gotten the unedited version of the interview below:

“Once I was asked a question on a flight—it made me angry afterwards, it made me angry because of how the media reported it—about the family integration of people with homosexual orientation, and I said:

homosexual people have a right be a part of a family, people with homosexual orientation have a right to be in a family and the parents have the right to recognize this son as homosexual, this daughter as homosexual. Nobody should be thrown out or be miserable because of it.

Another thing—I said—when we see some sign in children that are growing, and then you send them… I should have said to a ‘professional’, but I said ‘psychiatrist’. I wanted to say a professional, because sometimes there are signs in adolescence or pre-adolescence where they don’t know if it is a homosexual tendency or if the thymus gland atrophied with time—I don’t know, a thousand things, no? So, a professional. The headline of the newspaper: ‘The Pope sends homosexuals to the psychiatrist’. It is not true! They asked me a question and I repeated again:

‘They are sons of God, they have a right to a family, and so forth’.

Another thing is… and I explained: I was wrong in using that word, but wanted to say this: ‘When you notice something str’… “Ah, it’s strange…”. No, it’s not strange. It’s something out of the ordinary. In other words, they took a small word to nullify the context. There, what I said was: ‘they have a right to a family’. And that does not mean approving homosexual acts, not in the least.”

I don't understand why someone should heavily edit the above interview just to make it look as if the Pope was saying something else.

chipower:


You are right, he was not referring to the church, but at the time you were wrong because he was not talking about civil union.

Pope was simply saying that the family of those who are homosexuals should not reject them

To make things clearer, I have gotten the unedited version of the interview below:

“Once I was asked a question on a flight—it made me angry afterwards, it made me angry because of how the media reported it—about the family integration of people with homosexual orientation, and I said:

homosexual people have a right be a part of a family, people with homosexual orientation have a right to be in a family and the parents have the right to recognize this son as homosexual, this daughter as homosexual. Nobody should be thrown out or be miserable because of it.

Another thing—I said—when we see some sign in children that are growing, and then you send them… I should have said to a ‘professional’, but I said ‘psychiatrist’. I wanted to say a professional, because sometimes there are signs in adolescence or pre-adolescence where they don’t know if it is a homosexual tendency or if the thymus gland atrophied with time—I don’t know, a thousand things, no? So, a professional. The headline of the newspaper: ‘The Pope sends homosexuals to the psychiatrist’. It is not true! They asked me a question and I repeated again:

‘They are sons of God, they have a right to a family, and so forth’.

Another thing is… and I explained: I was wrong in using that word, but wanted to say this: ‘When you notice something str’… “Ah, it’s strange…”. No, it’s not strange. It’s something out of the ordinary. In other words, they took a small word to nullify the context. There, what I said was: ‘they have a right to a family’. And that does not mean approving homosexual acts, not in the least.”

I don't understand why someone should heavily edit the above interview just to make it look as if the Pope was saying something else.

Bros..... this matter simple gaaan ooooo.... the no tie wrapper at alll.....

The pope said
“homosexual people have a right be a part of a family, people with homosexual orientation have a right to be in a family and the parents have the right to recognize this son as homosexual, this daughter as homosexual.


There are two different statements here joined together by “and”

1) homosexual people have right to be part of a family... I.e they should not be excluded from marriage... because when a government bans gay marriage... the meaning is they’ve been denied the right to have a family.....

2)The second form of denial is when parents don’t accept their children’s gay status.
He therefore urged that heterosexual parents should recognize and accept their gay children....