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I am glad they did not attribute the damage to #ENDSARS protesters and Nigerian youths or IPOB

Zenithpeak:
The refinery will be sold out to Dangote Group and it will be kept moribund till eternity to keep monopolistic market idea intact while the payment made for purchase of the refinery will be returned through back door arrangement.... Tax relief and dollar racketeering will be allowed to cover for the payment....

Abi no be Nija we dey?

Dangote won't buy the refinery.

It would be like me bringing in my moribound 1950 Ford and expecting a mechanic here in Nigeria to revive the car (unless the mechanic is Cuban or a specialist in old cars).The mechanic would probably tell me to scrap the car and buy a new one.

His advisors would probably tell him that it would be more profitable to build a new refinery in their place than attempt to repair or revive them.And attempting to revive them would be like sinking money down a sinkhole....

They would also remind him that he has loans from his new refinery to pay.

Anyone buying the NNPC refienreis either has a lot of cash to dismantle them and build a new one, or is just setting himself or herself up for a world of tears

wahoom:
Yet they are still using billions of naira for it's yearly maintenance.
Anyways, thank God they didn't say it was #endsars protesters that destroyed it.
Ndi Ara!

This admission is just another excuse to justify why they should keep allocating money to it, collect Salaries for no-work done, and keep the drain-pipe running. SCAMMERS and LOOTERS EVERYWHERE IN GOVT

How much does it cost to build a New Refinery, that all these TAM and Allocatiosn to these derelict Refineries will keep gulping Billions of Dollars and we keep inporting fuel and paying subsidy?
We have Criminals in Govt and NNPC itself is a criminal Enterprise.
They should sell them, add money and build new ones.
If that is what this Govt has done since 2015, we would probably have tow new refineries by now and price of PMS will be around #30/litre.
Again, will Dangotte want competiton with is own Refinery?

We are not deceived. Neither is NNPC management unaware the TAM and total rehabilitation is a conduit for those in charge now. Those in charge in the past awarded their TAM and the refineries never worked. And, they didn't account to anyone, because NNPC is a YAM whose rope is held by the goat , presidency.



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After NASS the next Nigeria greatest problem is NNPC and Oga Patapata is unfortunately the head.

When did they notice this; before or after spending billions on "turn around maintenance"?

Throwback:
Time to sack everyone being paid a salary for being staff of a useless group of national refineries.

Even NNPC should be scrapped and a purely regulatory agency which is like the DPR should exist.

Every asset of NNPC should be disposed of to private investors.

Enough of this useless sinkhole.

Can u imagine?? 10 billion every month?? Money that should have put to better use while the private company who bought the companies will be making profit and paying tax to govt.

Islie:
https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2020/10/29/nnpc-nigerian-refineries-damaged-beyond-turnaround-maintenance/

Antiquities, now they will be regretting not selling it earlier.

Has it ever been useful

daddytime:
Mission accomplished, corruption triumphed, and no English again to take continue to dey defend the looting in the name of TAM when the original refinery (Dangote refinery) don come on board.

What a country.

Until we all go back to the basics, to agree on where we got it all wrong, even though we have an idea from when we got it wrong, we all still need to accept our respective culpabilities, no matter how damning or painful to the ears they might sound, and honestly agree to work towards mending the burnt bridges and rebirthing that much-eroded trust that is presently our bane as a nation/people, we shall continue to run around in circles with the same oppressive and vengeful system still in place because true repentance and forgiveness from all parties involved aren't being talked about.

Everyone is still stubbornly claiming to be politically right.

The present system and constitution upon which Nigeria is being run were deliberately crafted in that manner to be vengeful, spiteful, evil, lopsided, and generally rotten.

To have a glimpse of an idea about what I mean, ask yourself this; why is it that, those who seem and sound sane from the sidelines, and supposedly activists for the masses easily get to lose their voices and instead get swallowed up in the quagmire of everything decrepit within the system the moment they ascend the ladder on to the corridors of power?

The answer is simple, and it is akin to wearing a spotless babaringa or well-tailored suit to climb down sewage and expect not to reek of poo or get blemished. How possible can this be?

I keep telling people that the problem with Nigeria is fundamental, foundational, and structural. And until we begin to sincerely seek a way to address these issues, we'd only be piling up more blocks or floors on a structurally defect sky scrapper and the result will always be an eventual collapse besides the severe and un-healable injuries that'd have been sustained along the way.

If we don't come out, in all honesty, to discuss, seek genuine forgiveness from each other, we won't make any headway even with a million #Endsars protest or youth parties combined.

I've always thought the oldies in power are 100% the problem and as such, a chance for the youths at governance will rectify all the malaise we are presently faced with. But having tried in my little way to birth a youth movement to realize the above and getting stuck along the way, I was forced back to the drawing table to have a rethink, go back in time to history, and find out what the problem truly is.

I soon realized that the problem isn't the people that get into government perse, neither is it their qualification, age, religion, or region, but the system through which they come and upon which they operate is flawed and deliberately so to achieve a set goal.

A set goal which boils down to the history of this country, a history set on "never again", a history set on the perceived or actual betrayal of trust, a history built on " fool me once, you are the fool but fool me twice, then I'm the fool", in short, a history set on, "forgetting and forgiving is a sin".

We all need to know our history to some extent to understand where we are coming from, where we are presently, including how we got here, and ultimately, where we are headed, how we intend to get there, and of all, if we will ever get there.

To understand our history, it would be important to understand where we were as a people pre-independence, post-independence, the 1966 coup, the post-coup events, the counter-coup, the civil war, and the subsequent events that have led us here today.

We need to go back to understanding our respective regions without any bias, prejudices, arrogance, name-calling or seeing our individual regions superior to the other, et al

It is one thing to meet someone as a man or woman, feel a connect, mutual love based on trust and decide to become a couple, it is another thing to see a young girl, and decide to use all your powers including but not limited to religion, popularity, culture, and external backing to hold her to ransom and against her wish for marriage. While the first can be seen as mutual and free-willing, the latter is clearly forced, and will only breed resentment, rancor, hate, and where all these are present, retrogression naturally takes root.

We need to get rid of a system that breeds youths to power and perpetuate them into oldies in power without recourse to their downlines.

How do we go back to our pre-1966 era?
How do we rebuild the trust for one another which our actions and inactions have eroded over time?
How do we rebuild a nation where no part of the union will feel more superior politically, economically, educationally, or otherwise to the other, and rub it in without any remorse?

Always remember that if you feel justified in your myopic and selfish belief that whatever god you worship has blessed you beyond measure and above your neighbor intellectually and educationally, and as such reserve the right to see that neighbor as a sub-human or second class human, do not be surprised when that neighbor also prays to his god and gets answered when he requests to be blessed with his own gift which could be the gift to be the custodian of "Power" to rule over those who mocks him for his inability to assimilate or learn the ways of the white man as expected by his supposedly more "intelligent" and turenci speaking neighbors who would end up becoming spoke people for the supposedly "backward and unintelligent" neighbors. I hope say somebody dey understand me here...

E get reason why no be everybody dey sabi the white man language or way because everybody get him own unique gift from the sharer of gifts. Apart from that, who tell una say dem dey share sense, kindness, humility or how to be a good human being for school, and above all, una know wetin dem dey call native intelligence? Lol

Me wey dey write so na WAEC I get reach oh, I no even know where the certificate dey sef.

Humility and respect for one another should be a good way to start in our quest for restructuring.

God and nature can not be mocked at the same time, and if you are a fellow youth who still believes that the issues of this country Nigeria are solely physical, you had better woken up and smell the coffee.

The spiritual angle to it all dwarfs the physical you can see.

If the truth dey always sweet you for ear, you never hear better truth be that.

The truth dey bitter for the most part and e dey pain person for ear, but if you listen to am come agree say na the truth, come implement or refuse to implement am accordingly, you go dey on your way to freedom and peace of mind.

We have a way to go my people.

I be Nigerian boy from Edo State oh!

Anybody wey ready to do him best to see how we fit take heal together and rescue whatever we can of our country, I dey ready make we work together with genuine sincerity of purpose.

Bros dis ur lecture is superb, well articulated.
U nid to write a book on the Nigeria political system.
Am sure u'll make a good author in dat aspect

you people are not serious.

the Managing Director of the Kaduna Refining and Petrochemical Company (KRPC), Mr. Ezekiel Osarolube, stated that the ......

Did I just see Kaduna? Chai....!! These Northerners too de oppress us o... wetin refinery de do for Kaduna?

My brother where you base? I ready

daddytime:
Mission accomplished, corruption triumphed, and no English again to take continue to dey defend the looting in the name of TAM when the original refinery (Dangote refinery) don come on board.

What a country.

Until we all go back to the basics, to agree on where we got it all wrong, even though we have an idea from when we got it wrong, we all still need to accept our respective culpabilities, no matter how damning or painful to the ears they might sound, and honestly agree to work towards mending the burnt bridges and rebirthing that much-eroded trust that is presently our bane as a nation/people, we shall continue to run around in circles with the same oppressive and vengeful system still in place because true repentance and forgiveness from all parties involved aren't being talked about.

Everyone is still stubbornly claiming to be politically right.

The present system and constitution upon which Nigeria is being run were deliberately crafted in that manner to be vengeful, spiteful, evil, lopsided, and generally rotten.

To have a glimpse of an idea about what I mean, ask yourself this; why is it that, those who seem and sound sane from the sidelines, and supposedly activists for the masses easily get to lose their voices and instead get swallowed up in the quagmire of everything decrepit within the system the moment they ascend the ladder on to the corridors of power?

The answer is simple, and it is akin to wearing a spotless babaringa or well-tailored suit to climb down sewage and expect not to reek of poo or get blemished. How possible can this be?

I keep telling people that the problem with Nigeria is fundamental, foundational, and structural. And until we begin to sincerely seek a way to address these issues, we'd only be piling up more blocks or floors on a structurally defect sky scrapper and the result will always be an eventual collapse besides the severe and un-healable injuries that'd have been sustained along the way.

If we don't come out, in all honesty, to discuss, seek genuine forgiveness from each other, we won't make any headway even with a million #Endsars protest or youth parties combined.

I've always thought the oldies in power are 100% the problem and as such, a chance for the youths at governance will rectify all the malaise we are presently faced with. But having tried in my little way to birth a youth movement to realize the above and getting stuck along the way, I was forced back to the drawing table to have a rethink, go back in time to history, and find out what the problem truly is.

I soon realized that the problem isn't the people that get into government perse, neither is it their qualification, age, religion, or region, but the system through which they come and upon which they operate is flawed and deliberately so to achieve a set goal.

A set goal which boils down to the history of this country, a history set on "never again", a history set on the perceived or actual betrayal of trust, a history built on " fool me once, you are the fool but fool me twice, then I'm the fool", in short, a history set on, "forgetting and forgiving is a sin".

We all need to know our history to some extent to understand where we are coming from, where we are presently, including how we got here, and ultimately, where we are headed, how we intend to get there, and of all, if we will ever get there.

To understand our history, it would be important to understand where we were as a people pre-independence, post-independence, the 1966 coup, the post-coup events, the counter-coup, the civil war, and the subsequent events that have led us here today.

We need to go back to understanding our respective regions without any bias, prejudices, arrogance, name-calling or seeing our individual regions superior to the other, et al

It is one thing to meet someone as a man or woman, feel a connect, mutual love based on trust and decide to become a couple, it is another thing to see a young girl, and decide to use all your powers including but not limited to religion, popularity, culture, and external backing to hold her to ransom and against her wish for marriage. While the first can be seen as mutual and free-willing, the latter is clearly forced, and will only breed resentment, rancor, hate, and where all these are present, retrogression naturally takes root.

We need to get rid of a system that breeds youths to power and perpetuate them into oldies in power without recourse to their downlines.

How do we go back to our pre-1966 era?
How do we rebuild the trust for one another which our actions and inactions have eroded over time?
How do we rebuild a nation where no part of the union will feel more superior politically, economically, educationally, or otherwise to the other, and rub it in without any remorse?

Always remember that if you feel justified in your myopic and selfish belief that whatever god you worship has blessed you beyond measure and above your neighbor intellectually and educationally, and as such reserve the right to see that neighbor as a sub-human or second class human, do not be surprised when that neighbor also prays to his god and gets answered when he requests to be blessed with his own gift which could be the gift to be the custodian of "Power" to rule over those who mocks him for his inability to assimilate or learn the ways of the white man as expected by his supposedly more "intelligent" and turenci speaking neighbors who would end up becoming spoke people for the supposedly "backward and unintelligent" neighbors. I hope say somebody dey understand me here...

E get reason why no be everybody dey sabi the white man language or way because everybody get him own unique gift from the sharer of gifts. Apart from that, who tell una say dem dey share sense, kindness, humility or how to be a good human being for school, and above all, una know wetin dem dey call native intelligence? Lol

Me wey dey write so na WAEC I get reach oh, I no even know where the certificate dey sef.

Humility and respect for one another should be a good way to start in our quest for restructuring.

God and nature can not be mocked at the same time, and if you are a fellow youth who still believes that the issues of this country Nigeria are solely physical, you had better woken up and smell the coffee.

The spiritual angle to it all dwarfs the physical you can see.

If the truth dey always sweet you for ear, you never hear better truth be that.

The truth dey bitter for the most part and e dey pain person for ear, but if you listen to am come agree say na the truth, come implement or refuse to implement am accordingly, you go dey on your way to freedom and peace of mind.

We have a way to go my people.

I be Nigerian boy from Edo State oh!

Anybody wey ready to do him best to see how we fit take heal together and rescue whatever we can of our country, I dey ready make we work together with genuine sincerity of purpose.

Please Dangote and other business men should save us from these people.

.....hahahaha....indeed. After sinking billions, perhaps close to a trillion into them in the past three decades in the name of maintenance. Shey I keep on saying that the NNPC is a criminal organisation run by a syndicate that is waging economic war against the Nigerian state.

I simply cannot imagine this kind of thing happening even in the most corruptly bent banana republic in the world.
Listen good to this.

If you claim to be working in NNPC Refineries you are simply collecting blood money. You are a partaker in the wholesale mortgaging of this country and I can only feel sorry for your future when the country exacts its revenge on those who have raped and pillaged it. You better resign immediately and apologise to the country.

omowolewa:
This is good news, as no body will come up with another Turn Around Maintenance Budget.

I wish the Government will immediately replace the Refinery immediately.

Or sell a part of the ownership to Technical Investors. Or even partner with OICs.

it is not good news and if you are a southerner, you have been played... Now, the entire country will depend on Dangotes refinery which is very very very Bad.

If I had a chance I will gun down every southern leader for being idiots.

bayelsaowei:


So it means all the TAM funds were knowingly put into a dead brownfield project with many persons smiling to the banks..thank you Nigeria..

people like Emeka offor

HAHA IS THAT SO YOU SPENT BILLIONS ON TAM AND NOW YOU ARE SAYING ITS DAMAGED BEYOND REPAIR...........ALRIGHT I KNOW NIGERIANS WITH OUR SIDDON LOOK MENTALITY MAKES US EASILY DECIEVED OR PERCIEVED AS FOOLS BUT COME ON ITS OBVIOUS JUST LIKE THE INVISIBLE WAR AGAINST BOKO HARAM THE TAM OF REFINERIES WERE JUST AVENUES TO LOOT THE SOVERING WEALTH FUNDS DRY WE KNOW NO NEED TO LIE ANY LONGER MY OWN PROBLEM IS WHY AS CITIZENS DO WE TAKE THIS INSULTS THESE POLITICIANS GIVE US EVERY DAY ARNT WE TIRED?

evil party APC refinery that was Woking when they took over in 2015

chaiii..... the labour of our heroes past has all gone in vain... pls our next agenda is restructuring no more no less... am sick and tired of being fooled by these old men in power

Yea because you people want the dangote dynasty to continue

no problem, continue to import fuel

PhiliptheArab:
Good talk

But you miss the problem

Nigeria has been selling fuel at a price below the cost of refining the fuel.

And then they pay marketersa subsidy that does not cover the loss they make.

Marketers made up that loss by smuggling fuel to neighbouring countries where the sale price was higher or they staged fuel scarcity to make enough cash to balance their books

Importing fuel then became more profitable than refining it here, becauseof free oil money

Then Buhari came and made NNPC the sole importer of fuel and made them to sell to maketters at a loss and made NNPC pay their subsidy from their pocket

And as a result NNPC does not have enough money to do real live maintenance and upgrading


All these problems can be solved by deregulation

But because you people dont want to pay 200 or more per liter of fuel


We were warned in 1993 to deregulate. We refused to listen. In 1994, NNPC could not afford to do tam on its refineries. The slow destruction had begun

Thanks, for the lecture, sir.

My opening submission was more of like stating what everyone is and would be thinking and rightly so, I must confess based on our antecedents as a people and nation.

You'd notice that the main crux of my submission was wholly a deviation from the subject matter, yet, not completely unrelated.

That's exactly the complication that Nigeria is, sir.

Just in case you failed to understand my submission here.

It is indeed complicated.

g4gerald:
Bros dis ur lecture is superb, well articulated.
U nid to write a book on the Nigeria political system.
Am sure u'll make a good author in dat aspect

Lol....

You want make dem look for me to beat abi

The truth about Nigerian system bitter well well and no be everybody dey like the bitter truth even though say na wetin go help us be that.

I agree with you.

daddytime:
Mission accomplished, corruption triumphed, and no English again to take continue to dey defend the looting in the name of TAM when the original refinery (Dangote refinery) don come on board.

What a country.

Until we all go back to the basics, to agree on where we got it all wrong, even though we have an idea from when we got it wrong, we all still need to accept our respective culpabilities, no matter how damning or painful to the ears they might sound, and honestly agree to work towards mending the burnt bridges and rebirthing that much-eroded trust that is presently our bane as a nation/people, we shall continue to run around in circles with the same oppressive and vengeful system still in place because true repentance and forgiveness from all parties involved aren't being talked about.

Everyone is still stubbornly claiming to be politically right.

The present system and constitution upon which Nigeria is being run were deliberately crafted in that manner to be vengeful, spiteful, evil, lopsided, and generally rotten.

To have a glimpse of an idea about what I mean, ask yourself this; why is it that, those who seem and sound sane from the sidelines, and supposedly activists for the masses easily get to lose their voices and instead get swallowed up in the quagmire of everything decrepit within the system the moment they ascend the ladder on to the corridors of power?

The answer is simple, and it is akin to wearing a spotless babaringa or well-tailored suit to climb down sewage and expect not to reek of poo or get blemished. How possible can this be?

I keep telling people that the problem with Nigeria is fundamental, foundational, and structural. And until we begin to sincerely seek a way to address these issues, we'd only be piling up more blocks or floors on a structurally defect sky scrapper and the result will always be an eventual collapse besides the severe and un-healable injuries that'd have been sustained along the way.

If we don't come out, in all honesty, to discuss, seek genuine forgiveness from each other, we won't make any headway even with a million #Endsars protest or youth parties combined.

I've always thought the oldies in power are 100% the problem and as such, a chance for the youths at governance will rectify all the malaise we are presently faced with. But having tried in my little way to birth a youth movement to realize the above and getting stuck along the way, I was forced back to the drawing table to have a rethink, go back in time to history, and find out what the problem truly is.

I soon realized that the problem isn't the people that get into government perse, neither is it their qualification, age, religion, or region, but the system through which they come and upon which they operate is flawed and deliberately so to achieve a set goal.

A set goal which boils down to the history of this country, a history set on "never again", a history set on the perceived or actual betrayal of trust, a history built on " fool me once, you are the fool but fool me twice, then I'm the fool", in short, a history set on, "forgetting and forgiving is a sin".

We all need to know our history to some extent to understand where we are coming from, where we are presently, including how we got here, and ultimately, where we are headed, how we intend to get there, and of all, if we will ever get there.

To understand our history, it would be important to understand where we were as a people pre-independence, post-independence, the 1966 coup, the post-coup events, the counter-coup, the civil war, and the subsequent events that have led us here today.

We need to go back to understanding our respective regions without any bias, prejudices, arrogance, name-calling or seeing our individual regions superior to the other, et al

It is one thing to meet someone as a man or woman, feel a connect, mutual love based on trust and decide to become a couple, it is another thing to see a young girl, and decide to use all your powers including but not limited to religion, popularity, culture, and external backing to hold her to ransom and against her wish for marriage. While the first can be seen as mutual and free-willing, the latter is clearly forced, and will only breed resentment, rancor, hate, and where all these are present, retrogression naturally takes root.

We need to get rid of a system that breeds youths to power and perpetuate them into oldies in power without recourse to their downlines.

How do we go back to our pre-1966 era?
How do we rebuild the trust for one another which our actions and inactions have eroded over time?
How do we rebuild a nation where no part of the union will feel more superior politically, economically, educationally, or otherwise to the other, and rub it in without any remorse?

Always remember that if you feel justified in your myopic and selfish belief that whatever god you worship has blessed you beyond measure and above your neighbor intellectually and educationally, and as such reserve the right to see that neighbor as a sub-human or second class human, do not be surprised when that neighbor also prays to his god and gets answered when he requests to be blessed with his own gift which could be the gift to be the custodian of "Power" to rule over those who mocks him for his inability to assimilate or learn the ways of the white man as expected by his supposedly more "intelligent" and turenci speaking neighbors who would end up becoming spoke people for the supposedly "backward and unintelligent" neighbors. I hope say somebody dey understand me here...

E get reason why no be everybody dey sabi the white man language or way because everybody get him own unique gift from the sharer of gifts. Apart from that, who tell una say dem dey share sense, kindness, humility or how to be a good human being for school, and above all, una know wetin dem dey call native intelligence? Lol

Me wey dey write so na WAEC I get reach oh, I no even know where the certificate dey sef.

Humility and respect for one another should be a good way to start in our quest for restructuring.

God and nature can not be mocked at the same time, and if you are a fellow youth who still believes that the issues of this country Nigeria are solely physical, you had better woken up and smell the coffee.

The spiritual angle to it all dwarfs the physical you can see.

If the truth dey always sweet you for ear, you never hear better truth be that.

The truth dey bitter for the most part and e dey pain person for ear, but if you listen to am come agree say na the truth, come implement or refuse to implement am accordingly, you go dey on your way to freedom and peace of mind.

We have a way to go my people.

I be Nigerian boy from Edo State oh!

Anybody wey ready to do him best to see how we fit take heal together and rescue whatever we can of our country, I dey ready make we work together with genuine sincerity of purpose.

Damaging what is valuable beyond repairs.
We still have Engineers, Managers, Director and other workers there collected huge amount of salary and allowances every month in the name of working. Why are they still been pay for damage they can no longer fixed.

Avenue of looting again... I dey see dangote hand I this... Dey want to monopolizes Nigeria oil to themselves... Yet People that have the oil has no oil well to dem selves... Foolish country ruled by old fools... My God help us.

Any money spent of the dead refineries shows buhari is a thief.

Those refineries were already dead before buhari became president, yet still spending billions on it yearly.

He is a thief.