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Re: I want to bet on a trump win by GodIsBiafran: 5:54pm On Nov 01, 2020
TRUMP WILL LOSE MASSIVELY. MARK MY WORDS
Re: I want to bet on a trump win by Eddie4God(m): 6:34pm On Nov 01, 2020
porka:


If polls are used correctly, they can serve as a guide for the candidates or stakeholders. They could point to areas they need to work hard and those they need to maintain. Besides that, polls can be used for the purpose of influencing the outcome of an event without necessarily reflecting the proper perspectives of the population. That seems to be the sole reason of the polls from the most leftist arm of the western media organized polls. They are not to find any science or art or anything but simply to make supporters of their opponents feel depressed and resign to fate.

Unfortunately, the traditional liberal media don't understand that the social media has eroded their power of influence in the most significant ways. They are still in denial - still assuming that those 1980s 1990s society's reliance on their platforms for information and direction still works. It is the reason they failed totally to achieve their First Female President agenda in 2016. It is also the reason they failed to stop the British from leaving the EU.

The idea of national popular votes is useless in American presidential elections. It is the media that keep talking about it and elevate it to an important position. It's so useless that no one should waste his time on putting any emphasis on it.

The media might be emphasizing it to assist Hilary Clinton psychologically, to help her manage her failed ambition, so she wont go and harm herself. If it was useful for anything, she would have been the president. As things are, she can't even use it for the least political position. Her socalled national popular votes were mostly from few liberal states with large population.

The most important thing in the American presidential election is the elecloral colllege. 538 electoral college votes are at stake. Half of that is 269, which means the winner must have at least 270 (269 + 1) votes out of that number. That's what matters.

Each state is allotted electoral college votes equal to the number of their congressmen and senators. Among the reasons the electoral college system was designed is to avoid the stupidity of claiming political legitimacy due to votes from an assemblage of people in few big states. In other words, few big states should not be in the position to always dictate to smaller states who to select as president.

What exact lessons has Biden learnt from the 2016 election? Is it that he can openly threaten to destroy the source of people's livelihood in important energy (oil and gas) states and still expects them to vote for him? Or that he can rely on few media personnel and journalists (who are only read or watched by the elites) to tell him that he would win because Americans 'hate' his opponent? Didn't they say he would win if he just stayed in his basement? Why is he coming out now and running helter skelter?

You are probably one of the people already trying to establish a cover up for failure even before the actual failure occurs. When Donald Trump was victorious the last time, you people peddled the Russian collusion theory for years before reality set in.

You don't even want to wait for the declaration this time before you make unsubstantiated allegations of cheating. So who is it going to be this time? Russians again?

Pls take a chill pill,
I wrote about my personal opinion/observations on who is gonna win the election & also try to correct some popular misconceptions on polls among other things.
I am nt an American nor am a Democrat or Republican.
Beside, you sounds as if all the polls are partisan. There are lot of non-partisan/neutral Pollsters. Your beloved Fox News released their poll some days back & has Trump trailing behind Biden.
So is Fox News now also fake news or leftist media to you?
Not everything is an attack.
If you have contrary opinion/observations, set it out.

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Re: I want to bet on a trump win by basybasy: 7:15pm On Nov 01, 2020
drskyfly007:
You are confusing yourself..

Trump is the first USA president in history not to fight a single war!

GOD wants peace and not war.
What are u saying? A mad man on a street knows that Trump is rascal and arrogant. Secondly, he doesn't like Africa and has bn into so many controversies. Trump stands for global unrest whether u accept it or not.

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Re: I want to bet on a trump win by Yaribanzaonic: 7:30pm On Nov 01, 2020
Obama under his regime:

The Arab spring occurred 'Hilary Clinton Script'

Legalization of Gay/lesbianism/transgenders etc

Fighting useless wars and later regretting them: �� Libya!!!

In the Liybian case ....how can Obama state that he regrets going to war ousting Gaddafi?? That invariably means that he is stupid.


Trump will kill 1 terrorist instead of going to war!!

Stop being naive...Trump might have his shortcomings but he is 10000% better than Obama/Clinton/Biden who shout equality but have never uplifted the downtrodden!!!

So please take your weak narratives and flush dem down the toilet.




basybasy:

What are u saying? A mad man on a street knows that Trump is rascal and arrogant. Secondly, he doesn't like Africa and has bn into so many controversies. Trump stands for global unrest whether u accept it or not.

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Re: I want to bet on a trump win by jmoore(m): 7:49pm On Nov 01, 2020
Betting sites have options for election.

You can stake on US presidential elections. Stop looking for another dude to gamble with.

Use a betting site for that if you are serious.

Re: I want to bet on a trump win by Johnnyessence(m): 7:53pm On Nov 01, 2020
GodIsBiafran:
TRUMP WILL LOSE MASSIVELY. MARK MY WORDS
that's in your clueless mind. trump wins.
Re: I want to bet on a trump win by AndroBlaze: 8:19pm On Nov 01, 2020
CilicMarin:
Final NYT/Siena polls:

Biden +11 in Wisconsin
Biden +6 in Pennsylvania
Biden +6 in Arizona
Biden +3 In Florida

There is no hell of chance for Trump to emerge victorious....

Don't lose your money....Like Jonathan, Trump is a gonner!

I just pity IPOB miscreants!

Biden will win.

Even Trump knows his time is over.

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Re: I want to bet on a trump win by AndroBlaze: 8:20pm On Nov 01, 2020
jmoore:
Betting sites have options for election.

You can stake on US presidential elections. Stop looking for another dude to gamble with.

Use a betting site for that if you are serious.

Dont mind the noise maker.

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Re: I want to bet on a trump win by Afamed: 8:38pm On Nov 01, 2020
Aflix:
Please how is election done in the US? They said the election is on the 3rd of November, but people are already voting.
They call it early voting. It was opened 3/2 weeks ago. It's designed for people who might be too occupied to vote during the Nov 3. Old people, those on essential services
Re: I want to bet on a trump win by Afamed: 8:43pm On Nov 01, 2020
saaron:
Not only will Trump win, he'll win by a landslide.
Lazy youth. Do you need a landslide victory in US presidential election?

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Re: I want to bet on a trump win by Afamed: 8:47pm On Nov 01, 2020
OfficialAwol:


I like the word 'landslide'.

Zombies will be pained
Another lazy youth has joined. They always comment on issues beyond their mental capacity. Electoral college is what US used not popular or landslide victory

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Re: I want to bet on a trump win by Afamed: 8:50pm On Nov 01, 2020
Johnnyessence:
that's in your clueless mind. trump wins.
From your Ogbomosho inner circle.
Re: I want to bet on a trump win by Yujiz(m): 9:31pm On Nov 01, 2020
Y'all tipping biden to win will be so shocked when Trump wins again

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Re: I want to bet on a trump win by Blue3k(m): 9:52pm On Nov 01, 2020
Charleys:
I need to make some cash, is there anyone willing to bet with me.

I'm betting on a trump win this November.

So please how should we do it.

Helinius
Mannabbqgrillz

Go to predictit.com to bet on this election.
Re: I want to bet on a trump win by OfficialAwol(m): 9:55pm On Nov 01, 2020
Afamed:

Another lazy youth has joined. They always comment on issues beyond their mental capacity. Electoral college is what US used not popular or landslide victory

You must think you know a lot by mentioning Electoral College. In your head we don't know that right?

Ngwanu clap for yourself

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Re: I want to bet on a trump win by basybasy: 10:15pm On Nov 01, 2020
Yaribanzaonic:
Obama under his regime:

The Arab spring occurred 'Hilary Clinton Script'

Legalization of Gay/lesbianism/transgenders etc

Fighting useless wars and later regretting them: �� Libya!!!

In the Liybian case ....how can Obama state that he regrets going to war ousting Gaddafi?? That invariably means that he is stupid.


Trump will kill 1 terrorist instead of going to war!!

Stop being naive...Trump might have his shortcomings but he is 10000% better than Obama/Clinton/Biden who shout equally but have never uplifted the downtrodden!!!

So please take your weak narratives and flush dem down the toilet.




u have good points. All what u said about Obama are true. Only that people are afraid of Trump's rascality and arrogance. But all is well. Your points are well noted and because of ur points, my hands are up. Any of them that win so it be and I will stop seeing Trump negatively as from now. Thanks.

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Re: I want to bet on a trump win by Charleys: 10:17pm On Nov 01, 2020
Blue3k:


Go to predictit.com to bet on this election.

There's no greater joy than eating someone's money. Someone you know not some prediction site
Re: I want to bet on a trump win by Yaribanzaonic: 10:39pm On Nov 01, 2020
Bro. The Democratic Party is cesspit of career politicians who maneuver their way to higher office by being asslickers and backbiting characters. Do you know that under the Obama/Biden regime China made the greatest inroad in the American market? Do you know that they flooded the national space with their substandard and underhand trade activities?? All these things coupled with endless wars where done by these democrats?? Just because of the bribes given to them by the big tech companies and other foreign interests.

Trump isn't loyal to China and has revamped the American Economy by Force!!! That is leadership!! A man that takes out the head of Isis. A man that took out major sponsor of terrorist activities in the Middle East?

A man that is uniting Israel with Arab countries??

A man that brought North Korea to the negotiating table??

With all Obama claimed to do Trump outshone him totally!! Forget CNN propaganda. Obama is a Devil.


Please disregard CNN. It's the NTA of the Democratic Party. They tell bare faced lies!!

Have a swell day.

basybasy:

u have good points. All what u said about Obama are true. Only that people are afraid of Trump's rascality and arrogance. But all is well. Your points are well noted and because of ur points, my hands are up. Any of them that win so it be and I will stop seeing Trump negatively as from now. Thanks.
Re: I want to bet on a trump win by horchukoh(m): 10:55pm On Nov 01, 2020
Afamed:

They call it early voting. It was opened 3/2 weeks ago. It's designed for people who might be too occupied to vote during the Nov 3. Old people, those on essential services
pls I also need an explanation on popular votes and electoral college votes??
Re: I want to bet on a trump win by porka: 11:02pm On Nov 01, 2020
Eddie4God:


Pls take a chill pill,
I wrote about my personal opinion/observations on who is gonna win the election & also try to correct some popular misconceptions on polls among other things.
I am nt an American nor am a Democrat or Republican.
Beside, you sounds as if all the polls are partisan. There are lot of non-partisan/neutral Pollsters. Your beloved Fox News released their poll some days back & has Trump trailing Biden.
So is Fox News now also fake news or leftist media to you?
Not everything is an attack.
If you have contrary opinion/observations, set it out.

Your "personal opinion/observations on whose gonna win the election" is not based on any objective premise. It's heavily tainted with blatant unfounded allegation of a particular candidate cheating.

Beside, you sounds as if all the polls are partisan.

You should learn to read very well. It will save you serious avoidable embarrassments. There's no where in the post you quoted where anything "sounds as if ALL the polls are partisan." As a matter of fact, my first statement in that post already takes care of such "sounds".

And no, you didn't correct any popular misconception. What you did was reinforce a totally irrelevant myth about 2016 polls being accurate on popular votes, whereas such narrative is nonsense. Such is the BS people write on Quora every time. Nairaland is diifferent from Quora.

The polls simply predicted Hillary Clinton winning by a landslide in 2016 and become the president. Since Hillary Clinton didn't win and did not become the president it means that the polls were wrong. Spinning the failure around her winning the national popular votes and losing the electoral college votes is not correcting any misconceptions, it's denying the reality.

Polls said she would be the president. Actual election results showed she failed woefully - 227 votes against Trump's 307 electoral college votes is a woeful performance. She didn't become the president, therefore polls failed. As simple as A B C. If you are now saying that the polls were right on the national popular votes then the polls are useless because the national popular votes are useless without the electoral college votes.

No one contests presidential election in America just to win the national popular votes and leaving the important votes that actually make him or her the president. What American presidential candidates do is to seek a path to 270 electoral college votes that will make them president.

Mr Man, Fox News is not the most conservative news outlet in America. If you ever think that Fox News is the "beloved" of anyone who opposes liberal agenda, then you have a long way to go.

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Re: I want to bet on a trump win by ProT: 12:31am On Nov 02, 2020
basybasy:

What are u saying? A mad man on a street knows that Trump is rascal and arrogant. Secondly, he doesn't like Africa and has bn into so many controversies. Trump stands for global unrest whether u accept it or not.

With due respect, u just wrote like a kid; does ur Buhari like you and Africa?

And just to clear u, no one gives a fucck about Africa!
Fix Africa, instead of writing about Trump not liking u.

"...he doesn't like Africa yhen yhen yhen"
Is Trump ur president?
Did u vote Trump?
Is Trump even African?
Does ur Buhari like u?

Buhari and his army are busy killing unarmed African protesters, some of u are not bothered, yet u expect Trump (who has no business with u) to like u.
U no dey shame?
Re: I want to bet on a trump win by RomanGreen: 12:36am On Nov 02, 2020
colorsofrainbow:
I support Trump but it will be a great mystery if he emerges the winner.All odds are against him.If he eventually pulls through,then I can attest that NOTHING is impossible!

All odds aren't against him... The media simply wants you to believe that.... You see CNN, BBC, Al Jazeera and the likes....they are all pro democrats
Re: I want to bet on a trump win by RomanGreen: 12:38am On Nov 02, 2020
basybasy:

What are u saying? A mad man on a street knows that Trump is rascal and arrogant. Secondly, he doesn't like Africa and has bn into so many controversies. Trump stands for global unrest whether u accept it or not.

Global unrest?...yet he hasn't fought any war....In fact hr has been withdrawing American troops since assumed office.... Don't let the mainstreams media fool you....it's obvious they have got to you with their lies
Re: I want to bet on a trump win by Eddie4God(m): 4:51am On Nov 02, 2020
porka:


Your "personal opinion/observations on whose gonna win the election" is not based on any objective premise. It's heavily tainted with blatant unfounded allegation of a particular candidate cheating.



You should learn to read very well. It will save you serious avoidable embarrassments. There's no where in the post you quoted where anything "sounds as if ALL the polls are partisan." As a matter of fact, my first statement in that post already takes care of such "sounds".

And no, you didn't correct any popular misconception. What you did was reinforce a totally irrelevant myth about 2016 polls being accurate on popular votes, whereas such narrative is nonsense. Such is the BS people write on Quora every time. Nairaland is diifferent from Quora.

The polls simply predicted Hillary Clinton winning by a landslide in 2016 and become the president. Since Hillary Clinton didn't win and did not become the president it means that the polls were wrong. Spinning the failure around her winning the national popular votes and losing the electoral college votes is not correcting any misconceptions, it's denying the reality.

Polls said she would be the president. Actual election results showed she failed woefully - 227 votes against Trump's 307 electoral college votes is a woeful performance. She didn't become the president, therefore polls failed. As simple as A B C. If you are now saying that the polls were right on the national popular votes then the polls are useless because the national popular votes are useless without the electoral college votes.

No one contests presidential election in America just to win the national popular votes and leaving the important votes that actually make him or her the president. What American presidential candidates do is to seek a path to 270 electoral college votes that will make them president.

Mr Man, Fox News is not the most conservative news outlet in America. If you ever think that Fox News is the "beloved" of anyone who opposes liberal agenda, then you have a long way to go.

lol, first & foremost i never asserted that my personal opinion was based on any objective premises. That's why it my opinion.
You railing against polls from perceived leftist actually makes it sounds all Pollsters are partisan or they do have an agenda when it presents your favoured candidate trailing behind.The poll results from both side of the political spectrums are largely consistent with eachother albeit with some differences.In your own words:

"polls can be used for the purpose of influencing the outcome of an event without necessarily reflecting the proper perspectives of the population. That seems to be the sole reason of the polls from the most leftist arm of the western media organized polls."

Is the poll results from Fox News largely or entirely different from that of CNN,New York Times,BBC, Al Jazeera or other Poll results? NO.

Moving on, Mr. I Know it all & everybody else is incorrect, didn't you read my first post about margin of errors etc. & the fact that polls are not an exact science as well as the fact that Trump was very much underrated/underestimated. Thus, i agreed that there was missteps in polling results & by Pollsters.
I didn't say fox news was the most conservative news outlets in America. pls learn to read & understand.
Since some of you guys keep saying other news outlets are leftist & fake news, i used fox news because that's an outlet that is genuine to you. Or does Trump not trust & love Fox news anymore?
In conclusion, as i said before i have nothing to gain from the election. I am just saying my own opinion.
Can't i do that? Must you take every contrary opinion to yours personal or as an attack & as a fight or quarrel.
I still reiterate Biden will likely win. pls note the word "likely".
Well, we shall know the winner soon.

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Re: I want to bet on a trump win by Afamed: 8:19am On Nov 02, 2020
OfficialAwol:


You must think you know a lot by mentioning Electoral College. In your head we don't know that right?

Ngwanu clap for yourself
You know and you still dey shout landslide victory., habitual liar with bad memory.
Re: I want to bet on a trump win by Afamed: 8:45am On Nov 02, 2020
horchukoh:
pls I also need an explanation on popular votes and electoral college votes??
Popular vote is what we are using in Nigeria.E.g
Total Votes 10,000
Apc 9,000
PDP 1,000
The popular vote is the highest vote cast for Apc

But in US, every state is alloted certain electoral college votes based on their population.
There are others with more ecletoral college votes than others.
All together they have Total 538 electoral college votes.
From the 538, a candidate must secure 270 to be elected as the POTUS/ President of United States
You can have popular votes in Us but still fail to meet the electoral college votes, just like in 2016. Hilary has more votes in US over 2m than Trump yet she didn't meet the college votes.
In other to meet the electoral college votes, you have to win those state, they do refer to them as swing states, Florida, Pennsylvania,Texas, Ohio and others.
How the electoral college votes works.
For Example, Florida is alloted with 29 electoral college votes.
And when the total Votes in Florida is announced
GOP/ Republican has 200,000 votes while Democratic has 300,000. The implication is that the total Electoral college votes of 29 in Florida goes to Democratic.
Their electoral college votes are not the same in every state, hence, the need to win those states with higher electoral college votes.
Goggle more to get further information

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Re: I want to bet on a trump win by Nobody: 9:01am On Nov 02, 2020
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