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Re: 15th Century Benin City Was Finer And Safer Than London - British Study by FuckThaMod: 9:26am On Nov 06, 2020
Everyday my hatred for Europeans keeps rising, especially for the britains. Those greedy devilish white coloured skin bastards came to distort societies/places within Nigeria and Africa as a whole, created heterogeneous countries, looted our resources and artifacts. Till today we are still paying for their atrocities, any evil politician you see today in Africa is as a result of the actions of these Europeans. Africa lost way more than they can ever gain from Europeans and it really saddens my heart. If they hadn't interfered selfishly, Africa would be at the same level with them if not better, even though we may do our things differently in the african way but the end results certainly would be marvelous. Let this thread be an eye opener, let's learn to look inwards, focus on our own and cherish it.
No be everyone wey copy him neighbor for exam hall dey pass.

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Re: 15th Century Benin City Was Finer And Safer Than London - British Study by Etinosa12345: 9:29am On Nov 06, 2020
Seerade029:


You should stop saying what you don't know.

Just list the kings that was appointed by the Benins like Deji Osupa
So u that know, why is wiki now ur source.?

Because u don't know!!!


Akure was under Benin. Ur wiki says that the Deji were nominal rulers...
Do u understand now

Lol... U've run out of steam...

Clearly the Wikipedia u were using has sold u out...


Now u are clutching at straws

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Re: 15th Century Benin City Was Finer And Safer Than London - British Study by steve6: 9:29am On Nov 06, 2020
Nice.
Re: 15th Century Benin City Was Finer And Safer Than London - British Study by honor4me: 9:31am On Nov 06, 2020
Rosskivvy:


There's nothing like a ''failed country''.

Countries evolve over time. Every country began as a disorderly scrap of turf in the middle of nowhere.

Was America a ''failed country'' 60 years ago when blacks were being lynched in the streets, and denied basic rights, or when they suffered in slavery centuries before that?

Was the UK a ''failed country'' a century ago when people slept 10 to a room in London and child labour was the norm, while the aristocracy partied?

Countries evolve and develop over time, and so will Nigeria.

One day we will know all this and many other truths about our history.


Thank you so much for this elucidation. The whites came to destroy everything including religion which was the foundation of our great civilization. If only we can eschew bigotry, tribalism and build Nigeria together. But it takes great learning to understand that every country is subjected to its own peculiar evolutionary process!
Re: 15th Century Benin City Was Finer And Safer Than London - British Study by Etinosa12345: 9:32am On Nov 06, 2020
PericomaNwankwo:



Edo igodomigodo is and will always be and Igboland. You can't do anything to change it. When Onicha people and Ikwerre people claim to be from Edo, do you know what that means?? They are Igbo but they are from Edo, because Edo is Igbo. It may take thousands of years but one day you all will learn your unknown history.

Re: 15th Century Benin City Was Finer And Safer Than London - British Study by ApostlePaul14: 9:36am On Nov 06, 2020
Zeromoney:
This story breaks my heart. So the English man came; killed our ancestors, burnt our glorious Benin city to the ground and carted away artefacts and sculptures that identify us. Now if we want to know more about the ancient Benin kingdom all we have to do is travel to the UK and visit their museums.
Is Nigeria not a failed country? A country that can't preserve its identity or teach her citizens their history shouldn't exist.
its heartbreaking, they did it out of greed
Re: 15th Century Benin City Was Finer And Safer Than London - British Study by Uchasa(m): 9:38am On Nov 06, 2020
Realtalk20:


Well no apologies here

Bye

angry

Only God knows why Edo people suddenly developed hatred for Yorubas. I know hundreds of Edolites who disassociate themselves from Yorubas and insult Yorubas on a daily basis as if they are better. A small tribe that is known for crime and prostitution has the audacity to insult Yorubas. You guys must be out of your senses, idiots!.
As for Lagos,though am not Yoruba, Lagos is Yoruba land and no stupid Benin Wizard can claim the city!

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Re: 15th Century Benin City Was Finer And Safer Than London - British Study by Etinosa12345: 9:39am On Nov 06, 2020
Seerade029:


You should stop saying what you don't know.

Just list the kings that was appointed by the Benins like Deji Osupa

YoU sHOulD sTOp sAYiNG wHaT u DOnt kNOw

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Re: 15th Century Benin City Was Finer And Safer Than London - British Study by Etinosa12345: 9:40am On Nov 06, 2020
Uchasa:
[s]

Only God knows why Edo people suddenly developed hatred for Yorubas. I know hundreds of Edolites who disassociate themselves from Yorubas and insult Yorubas on a daily basis as if they are better. A small tribe that is known for crime and prostitution has the audacity to insult Yorubas. You guys must be out of your senses, idiots!.
As for Lagos,though am not Yoruba, Lagos is Yoruba land and no stupid Benin Wizard can claim the city![/s]

As u've insulted us, hope u feel better

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Re: 15th Century Benin City Was Finer And Safer Than London - British Study by Seerade029: 9:40am On Nov 06, 2020
Youngjohnosas:
You feel pained knowing that an inconsequential 5 local government empire took your fore fathers as slaves .


I'm not an indegine of Akure
Etinosa12345:

So u that know, why is wiki now ur source.?

Because u don't know!!!


Akure was under Benin. Ur wiki says that the Deji were nominal rulers...
Do u understand now

Lol... U've run out of steam...

Clearly the Wikipedia u were using has sold u out...


Now u are clutching at straws
..
Whatever rocks you guys boat.

Backwards, witchcrafts people.
5lgs people
Re: 15th Century Benin City Was Finer And Safer Than London - British Study by Seerade029: 9:42am On Nov 06, 2020
Uchasa:


Only God knows why Edo people suddenly developed hatred for Yorubas. I know hundreds of Edolites who disassociate themselves from Yorubas and insult Yorubas on a daily basis as if they are better. A small tribe that is known for crime and prostitution has the audacity to insult Yorubas. You guys must be out of your senses, idiots!.
As for Lagos,though am not Yoruba, Lagos is Yoruba land and no stupid Benin Wizard can claim the city!


Their hatred for Yorubas can't move Yorubas at all. grin


Who Dem be?
Inconsequential people

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Re: 15th Century Benin City Was Finer And Safer Than London - British Study by engrchykae(m): 9:42am On Nov 06, 2020
MhisTahrah:
It's sad we Africans don't know our history. If only Africa can return to its roots.
that is the face of the first man who lived in London billions of years ago,the original man was black,whites mutated or are products of the nephilim.
The truth is that there are two colours namely silver and gold.africans are gold Caucasians are silver.
Sunrise and sunset,East and West.
All gold in the world are situated in gondwana.
It's time we take our place

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Re: 15th Century Benin City Was Finer And Safer Than London - British Study by Etinosa12345: 9:44am On Nov 06, 2020
Seerade029:



I'm not an indegine of Akure ..
Whatever rocks you guys boat.

Backwards, witchcrafts people.
5lgs people

See this guy... He cannot prove that Akure was not a colony of Benin so u resort to insults.. that shows that u have accepted to have lost the argument

U called us backward, but the Europeans just praised our culture....

A lot of historians research our tradition daily

Since ur state is not backward, show me a complete European exposition abt ur state

All I see is tears in ur posts

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Re: 15th Century Benin City Was Finer And Safer Than London - British Study by mrkings84(m): 9:45am On Nov 06, 2020
I AM NOT SURPRISED BECAUSE BY THEN LONDON PEOPLE WERE IN BENIN AND BENIN PEOPLE WERE IN LONDON.

TODAY BENIN PEOPLE DEY BENIN AND LONDON PEOPLE DEY LONDON!
Re: 15th Century Benin City Was Finer And Safer Than London - British Study by badman007(m): 9:47am On Nov 06, 2020
This contraption called Nigeria has made a mess of the great minds of Benin.

The country has left the state with poverty they had to send their daughters for prostitution.

When Anthony Enahoro called for independence, he didn’t know Nigeria would break Benin Pride.
Re: 15th Century Benin City Was Finer And Safer Than London - British Study by sorosoke101: 9:48am On Nov 06, 2020
Rosskivvy:


Well, as the article said, Benin traded palm oil, pepper etc with them, and in return they sent guns.

And then in 1897 they invaded and burnt down the great city.

They have a lot to answer for, and will receive God's judgement.
God's judgement? Why not "The god's Judgement. You are still stuck to the Europeans. There is still a lot to answer for and top of the list is RELIGION
Re: 15th Century Benin City Was Finer And Safer Than London - British Study by Seerade029: 9:50am On Nov 06, 2020
Etinosa12345:


See this guy... He cannot prove that Akure was not a colony of Benin so u resort to insults.. that shows that u have accepted to have lost the argument

U called us backward, but the Europeans just praised our culture....

A lot of historians research our tradition daily

Since ur state is not backward, show me a complete European exposition abt ur state

All I see is tears in ur posts

I didn't insult you in all my comment.
Calling you inconsequential is not an insult but a fact.

And who cares if Europeans did exposition or not

Akure was under Benin, that was then.
Even America was under British before.


So, you guys should go and learn how to develop yourself and your state.
Stop living in past glory.

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Re: 15th Century Benin City Was Finer And Safer Than London - British Study by simplesearch: 9:57am On Nov 06, 2020
Haywhysat:


Same thing I just said. He is confusing mere jokes on nairaland to real world.

Exactly my point. I said it in one of the thread that the bitterness and hatred btw divergent tribes on this forum doesn't exist in real life.
Re: 15th Century Benin City Was Finer And Safer Than London - British Study by Eyinju6813(m): 9:57am On Nov 06, 2020
I am Yoruba, and my bestfriend is Igbo.. Matter of fact I don't hate any tribe..

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Re: 15th Century Benin City Was Finer And Safer Than London - British Study by Etinosa12345: 9:59am On Nov 06, 2020
Seerade029:
[s]

I didn't insult you in all my comment.
Calling you inconsequential is not an insult but a fact.

And who cares if Europeans did exposition or not

Akure was under Benin, that was then.
Even America was under British before.


So, you guys should go and learn how to develop yourself and your state.
Stop living in past glory.[/s]

Since u now accept that Akure was once under Benin Empire, why are u now arguing against it?

U had to resort to insults when u saw that u were wrong...

Just accept the truth and move forward... Stop gallivanting around

As if Akure is developed, Mtcheew

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Re: 15th Century Benin City Was Finer And Safer Than London - British Study by MozB: 10:02am On Nov 06, 2020
GavelSlam:
Africans, take pride in yourselves.

You have a rich history yet adopting foreign ways make you despise and diminish your culture, your ability and your future.

Wake up.
Re: 15th Century Benin City Was Finer And Safer Than London - British Study by jneutron4000: 10:12am On Nov 06, 2020
Abagworo:


There was Igodo and Idu. In Igbo folklore Igodo, Iduu and Oba form part of ancient stories transferred through generations. The chaotic wars of Benin empire around 15th century is known in Igbo as "agha Iduu n'Oba" and because it was brought by people who crossed the River Niger to settle in the East many mocked them as fairytales also known as "Akuko Iduu n'Oba" in Igbo. Ijaw also have similar stories so it cannot be false. The name Odogwu very common among Igbos represents heroic journey of a giant Igbo warrior to fight as a mercenary in Iduu n'Oba.
The Edos always want to disrespect the Yorubas but we just choose to let them keep on believing in what they choose to believe. The Ogiso dynasty and the Odionweres system was what they practiced before Oranmiyan came into that land. They do no want to admit that Oranmiyan lineage brought in the Obaship system to them, in order not to feel that Yorubas introduced Obaship to that land, they brought a story of Ekaladerhan with no single proof to back it up. But there are visible evidence that Oranmiyan gave birth to the very first Oba that started the Benin empire, even the heads are buried in Ife. A history fact and evidence that has put a nail to the all those story of Ekaladerhan bla bla bla is the Ekiokpagha treaty. A peace treaty between the Obaship dynasty and the Aborigines of Igodomigodo. That treaty simply show that some Yorubas migrated from Ife, mixed with some Aborigines and created the Benin empire.

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Re: 15th Century Benin City Was Finer And Safer Than London - British Study by Rosskivvy: 10:13am On Nov 06, 2020
RemoveKebab:
yes Africa already had enough so they had no reason to seek for resources by all means adding to that, geography also left west and southern Africa in the dark.

The vast desert of north Africa isolated them in time.

Early technology exchange couldn't happen as it was between Europe and Asia.
I agree with this. According to the late, great Dr Chancellor Williams, in The Destruction of Black Civilization, the decline of African civilization began with the loss of the north African Mediterranean coast to Arab invaders in 70 AD, and before then, to increasing desertification of the once-fertile Sahara.

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Re: 15th Century Benin City Was Finer And Safer Than London - British Study by Etinosa12345: 10:15am On Nov 06, 2020
jneutron4000:
[s]The Edos always want to disrespect the Yorubas but we just choose to let them keep on believing in what they choose to believe. The Ogiso dynasty and the Odionweres system was what they practiced before Oranmiyan came into that land. They do no want to admit that Oranmiyan lineage brought in the Obaship system to them, in order not to feel that Yorubas introduced Obaship to that land, they brought a story of Ekaladerhan with no single proof to back it up. But there are visible evidence that Oranmiyan gave birth to the very first Oba that started the Benin empire, even the heads are buried in Ife. A history fact and evidence that has put a nail to the all those story of Ekaladerhan bla bla bla is the Ekiokpagha treaty. A peace treaty between the Obaship dynasty and the Aborigines of Igodomigodo. That treaty simply show that some Yorubas migrated from Ife, mixed with some Aborigines and created the Benin empire[/s].
If the ekiokpagha treaty is true,how will the conquered be able to negotiate terms of the treaty

If Oduduwa was not a Yoruba person, how is the monarchy now Yoruba
Re: 15th Century Benin City Was Finer And Safer Than London - British Study by kunkelhanspeter(m): 10:19am On Nov 06, 2020
The useless British are the only problem of our nation they never want anything good to come out of it always want to control us that why they put northerners in power so they can easily manipulate them.
Re: 15th Century Benin City Was Finer And Safer Than London - British Study by kunkelhanspeter(m): 10:22am On Nov 06, 2020
Rosskivvy:


Well, as the article said, Benin traded palm oil, pepper etc with them, and in return they sent guns.

And then in 1897 they invaded and burnt down the great city.

They have a lot to answer for, and will receive God's judgement.
When will the judgement come bro?
For over 100 years and they are still doing good
Re: 15th Century Benin City Was Finer And Safer Than London - British Study by jneutron4000: 10:23am On Nov 06, 2020
Etinosa12345:

If the ekiokpagha treaty is true,how will the conquered be able to negotiate terms of the treaty

If Oduduwa was not a Yoruba person, how is the monarchy now Yoruba
The land was not conquered, in fact they inter married, and the people accepted even some Yoruba believe system and gods like Ogun, Olokun etc. Names lie Adesua shows the connection and how they bonded. In ile Ife, there is nothing you can trace back to the Igodomigodo land but there are lots of things in Edo that you can say came from Ife.

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Re: 15th Century Benin City Was Finer And Safer Than London - British Study by tot(f): 10:25am On Nov 06, 2020
Decades and centuries later on, what has the Nigerian society achieved after being free from the shackles of the colonials?

There is only so much you can blame others, a time comes when you should take responsibility.
Re: 15th Century Benin City Was Finer And Safer Than London - British Study by kunkelhanspeter(m): 10:29am On Nov 06, 2020
Rosskivvy:


There's nothing like a ''failed country''.

Countries evolve over time. Every country began as a disorderly scrap of turf in the middle of nowhere.

Was America a ''failed country'' 60 years ago when blacks were being lynched in the streets, and denied basic rights, or when they suffered in slavery centuries before that?

Was the UK a ''failed country'' a century ago when people slept 10 to a room in London and child labour was the norm, while the aristocracy partied?

Countries evolve and develop over time, and so will Nigeria.

One day we will know all this and many other truths about our history.

We are living in this generation yet we are not develop even in the next 500 years if we still have this backward set of leaders believe me nothing will happen instead it will keep getting worse. I’m 30 years ago now been hearing we will get better
Re: 15th Century Benin City Was Finer And Safer Than London - British Study by tot(f): 10:29am On Nov 06, 2020
Grandmeister:
It took a white man to tell us this.....when you can’t tell your story then others will tell it for you and shape your ideology and in so doing shape your progress as a people. Nigerians don’t value history that was why they went and elected a man who crushed the young democracy that was handed to them on a platter, and in so doing drove us into decades of military juntas and corruption..Nigerians fought and died to gain back their democracy only to hand it back to the same man who trampled upon in the past! What a people!

Well said.
Re: 15th Century Benin City Was Finer And Safer Than London - British Study by Ceomanchuria: 10:29am On Nov 06, 2020
Op the picture u used is one of Eredo Sungbo (Queen of Sheba ) built, it cuts across Epe,Ijebu,Ondo and Benin...They were ditches used as rael gateways besides d old Benin Kingdom was constructed by indigenes, Oduduwa descendant from Ile Ife who became a King in Benin and Bilikisu slaves who were giants and built monuments mightier than the pyramid of Egypt

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