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thinkmoney:
Civilization rise and fall. In Africa as in many other places great civilization arose.
But I suspect three factors that made this civilizations disappeared almost without trace-or four;
Our building materials that comprises of mud that degenerates quickly.
-our climate and temperature makes things weather and desinintegrate quickly.
-the prevalent Forrest and Savannah that quickly encroached on buildings and overwhelm them.these forest even discourage building any lasting edifice to start with.
-and wars and invasions-internally and from external elements like the Arabs and europeans.
And importantly too, the knowledge of whatever past civilization perished because we didn't develop writing. I guess the lack of big mountains discouraged us from thinking about the future, like and permanency.
In the present time too, the scant interest given to the study of archaeology has put the nail on the confine. This situation has fostered a sense of inferiority. A feeling that we are just incapable of doing great things.
Flip the absence of many of the mentioned conditions around and see what Egypt, Sudan and even Mali with moderate climate have from their pasts

Good points. But Benin officialdom and bureaucracy had writing. This was an empire that exchanged ambassadors with Portugal as early as the 1500s.

The bureaucracy was divided into several departments, each handling this or that trading nation/region and other such segments of commerce and diplomacy. There would have been literate scribes and bureaucrats involved in such operations and keeping records of transactions and trade agreements in scrolls.

Oba Esigie for instance, ruled in the early 1500s, and spoke and wrote Portuguese. I read there was a Bini-Portuguese 'pidgin' language that developed during that time, and which was used and spoken fluently by many officials in the bureaucracy.

So there was some writing among the ruling classes, which, like in other parts of the world at the time, was not extended to the mass population.

The Hausa states also had writing, with their ancient Ajami script.

The Igbos and Efiks had Nsibidi writing.

Yorubas had Aroko, the beautiful parabolic messaging system.

It was the slave trade and colonialism that led to the destruction of the numerous records that would have been kept in various forms and formats.

FuckThaMod:
I am a mannerless dimwit , I spend my whole life on nairaland fighting my superiors. I will be banned soon to further avoid my nuisance here. I am an Empty head

You are right...

Rosskivvy:
I'm actually Igbo and thought you were referring to that group.

Still not excusing your bigotry though.

I'm Igbo, and I don't hate and distrust Yoruba people. Neither do other Igbos I associate with.

Someone insulted a tribe and you automatically assumed it's Igbo he was referring to ? You feel so inferior

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Realtalk20:
Bros I am not

I just do not like anything about the Yoruba people and so many people I have met all around Nigeria feel the same way especially in the north ..

don't take nairaland seriously. it is really messing up your psychology.

Rosskivvy:
Good points. But Benin officialdom and bureaucracy had writing. This was an empire that exchanged ambassadors with Portugal as early as the 1500s.

The bureaucracy was divided into several departments, each handling this or that trading nation/region and other such segments of commerce and diplomacy. There would have been literate scribes and bureaucrats involved in such operations and keeping records of transactions and trade agreements in scrolls.

Oba Esigie for instance, ruled in the early 1500s, and spoke and wrote Portuguese. I read there was a Bini-Portuguese 'pidgin' language that developed during that time, and which was used and spoken fluently by many officials in the bureaucracy.

So there was some writing among the ruling classes, which, like in other parts of the world at the time, was not extended to the mass population.

The Hausa states also had writing, with their ancient Ajami script.

The Igbos and Efiks had Nsibidi writing.

It was the slave trade and colonialism that led to the destruction of the numerous records that would have been kept in various forms and formats.

I agree very much with your point. I guess its impossible for any relatively advanced civilization not to have a type of sign or writing at any level of development for keeping and transmitting information.
But then again, the nature of the writting materials available must have made them not to last long.
Obviously there were difficulties in passing on knowledge and the thick forest cut of many civilizations from others. So in Africa knowledge also didn't spread well. Civilization many times rose and fell in isolation

thinkmoney:
I agree very much with your point. I guess its impossible for any relatively advanced civilization not to have a type of sign or writing at any level of development for keeping and transmitting information.
But then again, the nature of the writing materials available must have made them not to last long.
Obviously there were difficulties in passing on knowledge and the thick forest cut of many civilizations from others. So in Africa knowledge also didn't spread well. Civilization many times rose and fell in isolation

Very true.

Etinosa1234:
how does what u posted show that benin was under ife?

Benin traditional history says that the banished son who became oduduwa in ife sent his son to become king

prove to me that oduduwa was a yoruba man

prove to me that benin was under ife

You dey mind them. Even when the truth is starring them in the eye they don't want to admit but prefer to argue for arguing sake and you could see from their reactions that emotions has taken over.

Realtalk20:
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Cursed tribe

Funny how much you guys are hated so badly everywhere. The few who don't hate you is only because they either work for a cursed soul from your tribe or do business but the truth is when we all gather together at the end of the day different tribes relaxing we all agree on one thing.

The Yorubas are an evil race who can never ever be trusted

Cry all you want in your next life pray to be an Edo indigene

even your family will be disappointed to read this your gibberish about the great tribe, I don't blame your gross foolishness, that's what failed rising sun can do to run down mental system


your foolishness is a result of your mental malfunction. na that frustration that's making you to chant Yoruba Yoruba go killl you las las

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Heavensent01:
even your family will be disappointed to read this your gibberish about the great tribe, I don't blame your gross foolishness, that's what failed rising sun can do to run down mental system


your foolishness is a result of your mental malfunction. na that frustration that's making you to chant Yoruba Yoruba go killl you las las

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Kai read the rubbish you wrote!! Incoherent babbling of the broken mind

Sorry o, Elede

Realtalk20:
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Kai read the rubbish you wrote!! Incoherent babbling of the broken mind

Sorry o, Elede

the thing dey pain you, no wonder you dey cancel, I won't stop describing how useless you're to the world


my concern is how someone will be somewhere and be expecting your likes to be successful with this your brainless and watery brain


if you continue with this your show of stupidity, I doubt If your fortune can turn around for good


na hatred for Yoruba people go cut your lifespan las las

Etinosa1234:
Robertb smith

kingdoms of the yoruba

Thank you boss, I need to learn about my people

Realtalk20:
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Igbos are cursed simple
In my family we are armed robbers , we know you from upper sakpomba to ekosodin , cultism and armed robbery

We sabi una

Cursed people from Edo to Southeast

OK product of exile prostitution

Realtalk20:
I dey tell you o. Edos and ibos are cursed.though I can stand ibos sha especially those yellow edo olosho babes but it's those damned evil despicable Edo descendants of judas I can't stand

You're customizing your foolishness yourself, group of imbeciles are all happy to associate with you


Your stupidity is one in a kind

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Heavensent01:
You're customizing your foolishness yourself, group of imbeciles are all happy to associate with you


Your stupidity is one in a kind

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Cursed animal

Yoruba cursed ooo

engrchykae:
that is the face of the first man who lived in London billions of years ago,the original man was black,whites mutated or are products of the nephilim.
The truth is that there are two colours namely silver and gold.africans are gold Caucasians are silver.
Sunrise and sunset,East and West.
All gold in the world are situated in gondwana.
It's time we take our place

hahaha, liar! How did you get his picture! The ediot even use oil rub his face, lolz abegi.

Nephilim:
hahaha, liar! How did you get his picture! The ediot even use oil rub his face, lolz abegi.

the skeleton was recreated and body tissues added just like they do with the fossils to dinosaurs to show how they will actually look if alive.
You are a typical brainwashed African who hates himself

Realtalk20:
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I'm a Cursed animal
Edo people are cursed ooo

okay

Heavensent01:
okay

Each Time you open your cursed mouth to Insult Edo state a curse is placed on your generation

engrchykae:
the skeleton was recreated and body tissues added just like they do with the fossils to dinosaurs to show how they will actually look if alive.
You are a typical brainwashed African who hates himself

haha! See stupid analysis. you're the typical brainwashed buffoòn, who believes all this shit tales!

Nephilim:
haha! See stupid analysis. you're the typical brainwashed buffoòn, who believes all this shit tales!

suit yourself

Realtalk20:
Each Time i open mouth to Insult Edo state a curse is placed on my generation

Edo state is cursed already likewise your generation

A

Heavensent01:
Edo state is cursed already likewise your generation

Face your state and leave Edo state alone.

Every curse back to sender.