₦airaland Forum

Moferere:
Ayere was taken from Ondo
Kabba was taken from Kwara

They are now in Kogi, should we go there and fight? Despite the fact that they speak Yoruba?

O wrong nau

adelola500:
So why did Ohaneze Ndigbo and Igbo governors did not correct Wike instead they agreed with him that no Igbo indigenes in Rivers state.

dexmond:
Hello Giddigiddy,

Let me help you to understand why.

When a people lose a war, their land is confiscated, their history re-written or completely erased, their children are enslaved. In just 25 years to come, your people will have effectively become a minority, barely scratching the surface of the earth to survive.

LORD, let not the plans of the enemies come to pass in Jesus name (Amen).

Rugaria:
Not only in kogi, we have Yoruba towns in far away Benin republic and Togo! The Yorubas don't care and that's perfectly fine. We are not like that. In igboland, there's a common saying for travellers; "onye ághànà nwanne ya". It simply means "no one should leave his/her siblings behind". We even send Igbo corpses back to igboland from America, Russia, China etc! Corpses! How much more communities of the living!? You guys are culturally prepared to abandon your own this way, we are not. Let's simply respect each other's practices..

Juliusmalema:
[s]And so?


Is this the current problem facing Imo state?

How does this bring roads, infrastructure and every dividends of democracy to Imo?


What is the current happiness index of the people.?



What is all these Rubbish about Obigbo, otigbo, ovigbo, osigbo or whatever?



Nnamdi kanu went there and created a mess of himself and trying to turn a community to a terrorist zone and you are here writing nonsense.



Let them remain there.


Good Governance remains the key[/s]

Juliusmalema:
And so?


Is this the current problem facing Imo state?

How does this bring roads, infrastructure and every dividends of democracy to Imo?


What is the current happiness index of the people.?



What is all these Rubbish about Obigbo, otigbo, ovigbo, osigbo or whatever?



Nnamdi kanu went there and created a mess of himself and trying to turn a community to a terrorist zone and you are here writing nonsense.



Let them remain there.


Good Governance remains the key

Moferere:
Okay o, but I will tell you this: you are fighting a lost battle.
Your efforts at taking oyigbo will make some states to be wary of granting you Biafra if referendum eventually scales through in the nearest future.

gidgiddy:
I have been wondering about this boundary adjustment that was done in the 1970's that saw parts of Imo state such as Egbema, Etche and Obigbo carved into Rivers state. Today, Egbema people have half their community in Ohaji-Egbema LGA in Imo state, while the other half is in Egbema-Ndoni LGA in Rivers State. What was going here? Why was Obigbo taken out of Imo state, put in Rivers state, then renamed 'Oyigbo'?

Ojiofor:
Are you from either Imo state or Obigbo?
The dust have settled and you have resumed your bloody propaganda once again.

gidgiddy:
If you dont know why parts of Imo state such as Egbema, Etche and Oyigbo were removed from Imo state in 1976 and put in Rivers then dont comment. This is about history

thatigboman:
Jebba is in Kwara State. it is Borgu that was carved into Niger

gidgiddy:
At no time did any of them agree that there are no Igbos in Rivers state and it is not at such a venue that you start correcting a Governor in front of the press.

StrongInBed:
this bastard are you part of Igboid group? WHY CAN'T YOU FACE YOUR MUSLIM BROTHERS..NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRIED RIVERS IS IGBO LAND YOU AND YOUR PAPA CAN NEVER BE RESPECTED HERE AS LONG AS IGBOS EXIST.

Igboid:
Exactly my point.
Obiigbo being carved out into Rivers does not erase the fact that the indigenous people of Obiigbo remains Igbo and their land remains part and parcel of Igbo land.

In the case of Obiigbo, there has been a clear attempt by non Igbos in Rivers to deIgbonize them, which started with renaming of the town from Obiigbo to Oyiigbo, and then claims and counter claims by Rivers people that Obiigbo people are migrants in their own land and should vacate the land and migrate to Abia state.

These Igbophobic elements in Rivers state don't seem to realize that states are artificial creation and that Obiigbo people have always occupied their land up until it was transferred to Rivers state.

Juliusmalema:
Mtcheeeeeew.


One room internet warrior

gidgiddy:
I have been wondering about this boundary adjustment that was done in the 1970's that saw parts of Imo state such as Egbema, Etche and Obigbo carved into Rivers state. Today, Egbema people have half their community in Ohaji-Egbema LGA in Imo state, while the other half is in Egbema-Ndoni LGA in Rivers State. What was going here? Why was Obigbo taken out of Imo state, put in Rivers state, then renamed 'Oyigbo'?

StrongInBed:
Who is this tree climber?

Can you have access to internet in that your little world..The promotional data is giving you orgasm abi?

Little Nigga.

Rugaria:
Not only in kogi, we have Yoruba towns in far away Benin republic and Togo! The Yorubas don't care and that's perfectly fine. We are not like that. In igboland, there's a common saying for travellers; "onye ághànà nwanne ya". It simply means "no one should leave his/her siblings behind". We even send Igbo corpses back to igboland from America, Russia, China etc! Corpses! How much more communities of the living!? You guys are culturally prepared to abandon your own this way, we are not. Let's simply respect each other's practices..

Juliusmalema:
Mtcheeeeeew.
One room internet warrior

Juliusmalema:
And so?


Is this the current problem facing Imo state?

How does this bring roads, infrastructure and every dividends of democracy to Imo?


What is the current happiness index of the people.?



What is all these Rubbish about Obigbo, otigbo, ovigbo, osigbo or whatever?



Nnamdi kanu went there and created a mess of himself and trying to turn a community to a terrorist zone and you are here writing nonsense.



Let them remain there.


Good Governance remains the key

LegendHero:
The Igboid groups like you said already carved out a new ethnic identity for themselves and that tells you some part of them want to dissociate from you Igbos and want to have their own distinct entity. What could be their reasons?

They are human beings who should have the right to associate and de-associate, you gotta respect their opinions.

gidgiddy:
To come up with a new name does not mean new ethnic identity, anyone can do that. Ethnic identity is about being 'distinct' from all other ethnic groups and what makes you distinct is culture and language. You cannot be speaking a mother tongue all other people around you speak but claim to be distinct

To carve out a new identity for your self, you must come up with a new language and a new culture for your self. Any Igboid group that seeks to carve out a new identity is free to do so, but let it not be word of mouth alone, but in practice. What I find funny is when a group of people say they are a distinctly different ethnic group yet every time they want to say 'come', they will say 'bia'. There is only one ethnic group that uses 'bia' for come and we all know who they are

LegendHero:
Because the United States speak English, does that mean they are British?

Canadaians speak both English and French, does that mean that are British and French?

I understand what you’re saying but language alone does not define people, a lot of things go into all these things and what I’m saying is that they have the right as a people to identify as what they want.

It’s sickening that a majority tribe like the Igbos will be opening threads upon threads daily telling grown up people that they are this and that.

Some of these guys said they are distinct, but you chose to always kill their right by saying they must be forcefully Ibos. That’s a form of domineering mindset and an act of denying people the right to exist.

True brotherhood comes naturally, anything forced won’t last and even in the next 500 years, there will still be this kind of identity crisis. Why not just respect people opinion and stop thinking the world revolves around only Ibos?

I’m sure there are some of those Igboid groups that love identifying with Igbos while there are some that don’t want to identify with the Igbos.

The right of both should be respected.

gidgiddy:
The united states is never going to tell that they are a distinct ethnic group. Neither will Canada. The indigenous ethnic groups of America and Canada are the Indians and they still speak their native tongue till today as well as the borrowed languages such as English.

The arguement here is that if a group of people say they are distinct, let them act distinct. There is no point claiming to be a distinct when you dont even have your own language to differentiate you from other from other ethnic groups. Did your ancestors use 'sign language' to communicate? Hypocrisy is what I dont like. If someone is saying he is distinct, let him stop using the word "bia" for 'come' and go and find what words his ancestors used. If he cant, he isnt fooling anyone but himself

helinues:
Why was Armenia carved out from Soviet Union?

rummmy:
they were carved out because they wanted to be a country of their own which was eventually given to them..

helinues:
Sames as the rivers State side..

They are tired of being marginalized by defunct Eastern Region

rummmy:
just as borno state is tired of been in Nigeria ..

LegendHero:
Stop confusing the term “race” with ethnicities, an American is different from British and not all people that speak the same language identify as the same tribe (people).

Even if we are to present an alternate argument, all men sprang from one single source and then we start deviating by forming distinct tribes linked by customs, history, language, religion, and culture.

Language itself is one of the factors and it is not the sole determinant of ethnicities. So I don’t know where you’re getting your own concept from.

Every human being have a right to exist with freedom to associate enshrined in the constitution and even based on natural law.

If I say I am Ikwerre and I am not Igbo, you should respect my right to exist.

Likewise, if I say I am Igbo as an Ikwerre, another Ikwerre leaning person should respect my right to exist.

Until probably there is a need to carry out some form of referendum based on circumstances where the majority will have their way, then respect their choices.