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"My Past Teachings Against Prosperity Responsible For Poverty Of Deeper Life Mem by MrDrey(op): 8:49am On Nov 15, 2020
"My past teachings against prosperity responsible for poverty of Deeper Life members", Kumuyi Admits



If you are looking for one man whose life and ministry have produced tremendous results and consistent impact over the past five decades, look no further than Pastor Williams Folorunsho kumuyi, the General Superintendent, Deeper Life Bible Church, worldwide.

Since 1973, when Deeper Life Church was established by Pastor Kumuyi, the man of God, is no stranger to controversy, for reasons of many controversial doctrines held by the church, dictated by strong aversion to worldliness and all forms of carnality.



Yet, no one can ever deny Pastor Kumuyi’s consistent track as a preacher of holiness, highly vast in the knowledge of the mind of God as revealed in the Bible, humble, clear thinking and man of simplicity.


•Pastor Williams Folorunsho kumuyi,
The Word of God is ever new and refreshing each passing day.. In life, change is a constant phenomenon. Although God’s word contains changeless truths, a Christian’s understanding of scriptural verses of the Bible, is subject to change, particularly, if guided by the Holy Spirit, whom the Bible calls: Teacher, Comforter, Revealer and Advocate.

It is for this reason that doctrines of churches vary from one church to another.


There is a wide world of difference between the word of God and doctrine. While God’s word is sacrosanct and not subject to change, doctrine has to do with our own interpretation of the word of God, which can be subject to change, based on another level of deeper understanding of the scriptures.



Pastor Kumuyi, on a number of occasions, has had cause to publicly admit errors and missteps of the past. He is not the type to deny his own humanness as a fallible individual. Yes, he is a man of God but he is, first and foremost, a man with flesh and blood.

In fact, avid watchers of changing trends in the Deeper Life Church would notice that there has been a seamless transition from what can be likened to the old order and the present new order.

Not too long ago, Kumuyi declared before his teeming congregation that they should expect marked changes in the doctrines and orientation of the church, admitting that some of the doctrines were mere necessities of the past times when there was no complete understanding.

The holiness preacher, while delivering his homily monitored via satellite, admitted that his teachings in the past which focused more on Salvation, but downplayed the issue of Prosperity has been responsible for reasons why a vast majority of Deeper Life brethren are look poor in their physical appearance.

Hear the man of God: “When I look at the faces of some of you, I feel ashamed. I feel embarrassed at the way you look. You look poverty-stricken, You look wretched. And, I don’t feel happy when I see you in this way.


•Pastor Williams Folorunsho kumuyi,
“But I have found out that it is not your fault. It was because of what we taught you in times past. We told you then that only SALVATION is what you need and that PROSPERITY is not what you must crave for.

“But, I tell you today that if you have SALVATION and it’s not going on side-by-side with PROSPERITY, particularly that of the mind and soul, then your SALVATION may be endangered”.


•Pastor Kumuyi and wife
Pastor Kumuyi and his lovely wife

It is probably for these past teachings that account for reasons why there has been a marked differentiation of Deeper Life folks in terms of doctrinal pattern, dressing , mode of worship and even, strangely pious lifestyles.

Indeed, Deeper Life is like no other church, even among those of the Pentecostal extraction.

Pastor Kumuyi’s oft-repeated Mantra especially in the early days of the church, has always been anchored on the Holy Scriptures, Hebrews chapter 13, verse 13 which says: “For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come”.



Therefore, what the Mantra implies is this: living for heaven, is the ultimate goal of the average Deeper Life congregation member.

In 1 Corinthians 13: 11-12, Apostle Paul stated: _” When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known. ”_

Pastor Kumuyi who is expected to attain the Octogenarian status by his next birthday in June 2021, not too long ago gave another shocker with respect to impending major changes church-wide.


•Pastor Kumuyi and Pastor Adeboye of RCCG
Pastor W.F. Kumuyi and Pastor E.A. Adeboye

He said: “These changes will happen before I leave, I mean before I go, I am going to remove everything that I set up that I thought would help Deeper Life and make us holy, and make us sanctified, make us deep, make us deeper. And if I see it is not making us deeper but shallow, before I leave , I will uproot all of them and will present to you a pure church before I leave.

“What we have currently is that the young people fear Marriage Committee more than they fear God, We’ will knock off Marriage Committee because marriage committee is our own making, it is not in the Bible.”

Kumuyi also promised to put an end to women ministry, noting that “Women ministry is our own making, it is not in the Acts of the Apostles. If it is not helping us, if it is going to hinder us, we’ will strike it off.”


Born on June 6, 1941, Pastor W.F. Kumuyiwas born into a Christian family in Erin-Ijesha, Osun State, Nigeria, The young Kumuyi got an experiential knowledge of who Jesus Christ was, and what radical changes He could effect in lives surrendered to His lordship.

He was introduced to the Apostolic Faith Church. Where he heard the Gospel, and believed the word of God on righteousness, temperance, judgment to come, and salvation from sin: He became born again on Sunday, April 5, 1964

Pastor Kumuyi gained admission to study Mathematics at the University of Ibadan, obtaining a first class degree in 1967. He subsequently enrolled for a postgraduate course in Education at the University of Lagos, Lagos. On the completion of his postgraduate study, he became a lecturer in the Department of Mathematics at UNILAG.

The Deeper Life Bible Church, which now has over one million members in more than sixty countries around the world, started as a 15-member Bible Study Group in Pastor Kumuyi’s official quarters at the University of Lagos in August, 1973.

Source:


https://livetimesng.com/my-past-teachings-against-prosperity-responsible-for-poverty-of-deeper-life-members-kumuyi-admits/

Re: "My Past Teachings Against Prosperity Responsible For Poverty Of Deeper Life Mem by ebenhazard(m): 8:58am On Nov 15, 2020
Praise the Lord
Re: "My Past Teachings Against Prosperity Responsible For Poverty Of Deeper Life Mem by Nobody: 9:03am On Nov 15, 2020
So if you don't have prosperity your salvation may be in danger shocked

From one nonsense to another error. the grave gets deeper
Re: "My Past Teachings Against Prosperity Responsible For Poverty Of Deeper Life Mem by CodeTemplar:
Lol. . . I have always maintained that prosperity is for the body, spirit and soul. People erroneously use the word "prosperity" the worldly way. It is in the world where money equates to prosperity. In God's plan, after salvation(your preservation from destruction and danger) prosperity of the soul and body is to follow. It is scriptural.
Re: "My Past Teachings Against Prosperity Responsible For Poverty Of Deeper Life Mem by 9jamustchange: 9:08am On Nov 15, 2020
No amount of prosperity teaching can make everyone rich- the poor will always be among you. Thank God you said the prosperity of the mind and soul. Please don't drift sir!
Re: "My Past Teachings Against Prosperity Responsible For Poverty Of Deeper Life Mem by CodeTemplar: 9:09am On Nov 15, 2020
BlueAngel444:
So if you don't have prosperity your salvation may be in danger shocked

From one nonsense to another error. the grave gets deeper
It is never too late to to admit errors. Salvation is is different from prosperity. Salvation is your preservation from destruction and danger. Prosperity is what God wants for you body(health,wellness, comfort) spirit, and soul. Prosperity goes beyond money alone. What the world calls prosperity is void of the reality of the spirit and soul realm of prosperity.
Money for Christians is meant to cover your basic personal needs and ministry needs. What people are after due to prevalent visionlessness is their wants or selfish desires.
Re: "My Past Teachings Against Prosperity Responsible For Poverty Of Deeper Life Mem by olaric(m): 9:13am On Nov 15, 2020
Could all these quotes be truly from Pastor Kumuyi?
Re: "My Past Teachings Against Prosperity Responsible For Poverty Of Deeper Life Mem by CodeTemplar: 9:19am On Nov 15, 2020
Hear the man of God: “When I look at the faces of some of you, I feel ashamed. I feel embarrassed at the way you look. You look poverty-stricken, You look wretched. And, I don’t feel happy when I see you in this way.

“But I have found out that it is not your fault. It was because of what we taught you in times past. We told you then that only SALVATION is what you need and that PROSPERITY is not what you must crave for.
“But, I tell you today that if you have SALVATION and it’s not going on side-by-side with PROSPERITY, particularly that of the mind and soul, then your SALVATION may be endangered”.
Re: "My Past Teachings Against Prosperity Responsible For Poverty Of Deeper Life Mem by CodeTemplar: 9:27am On Nov 15, 2020
9jamustchange:
No amount of prosperity teaching can make everyone rich- the poor will always be among you. Thank God you said the prosperity of the mind and soul. Please don't drift sir!
Prosperity isn't all about money. A rich man with serious sickness has nothing over the poor man in health.
Re: "My Past Teachings Against Prosperity Responsible For Poverty Of Deeper Life Mem by Buliwyf: 9:30am On Nov 15, 2020
So is he saying that it wasn't God that gave him all those teaching that he is now blaming?

That's the problem with religion. Once it is not working everyone start finding new things to blame forgetting they have all claimed it was God who was speaking to them then. So God gave you a teaching but didn't give you the way to apply it so it won't be detrimental to your members?
Re: "My Past Teachings Against Prosperity Responsible For Poverty Of Deeper Life Mem by SocialJustice: 9:51am On Nov 15, 2020
Breeding a generation of happily poor people. Oga you get fault. You will talk and make it seem like it was God speaking. Religious hustlers.
Re: "My Past Teachings Against Prosperity Responsible For Poverty Of Deeper Life Mem by Vision4God: 10:54am On Nov 15, 2020
God's grace and help to us all. Father lord help us daily to walk in ur counsel
Re: "My Past Teachings Against Prosperity Responsible For Poverty Of Deeper Life Mem by obonujoker(m): 10:59am On Nov 15, 2020
Deeper life members are not poor!

Most work in big organization, have their own companies , the founder of one of the biggest private security companies in Nigeria is a deeper lifer, some of the biggest educational centres are owned by deeper lifers etc
Re: "My Past Teachings Against Prosperity Responsible For Poverty Of Deeper Life Mem by jesusjnr2020(m): 11:16am On Nov 15, 2020
obonujoker:
Deeper life members are not poor!

Most work in big organization, have their own companies , the founder of one of the biggest private security companies in Nigeria is a deeper lifer, some of the biggest educational centres are owned by deeper lifers etc
Exactly my thoughts bro.

I was just wondering where such an idea came from.

I just hope he doesn't make worse errors than the ones he may be trying to correct.
Re: "My Past Teachings Against Prosperity Responsible For Poverty Of Deeper Life Mem by tobechi74: 11:36am On Nov 15, 2020
I love Kumuyi ability to admit his wrong
Re: "My Past Teachings Against Prosperity Responsible For Poverty Of Deeper Life Mem by delkuf(m): 11:50am On Nov 15, 2020
This was the only reason am not a member of deeper life.
Re: "My Past Teachings Against Prosperity Responsible For Poverty Of Deeper Life Mem by OrDan(m): 12:01pm On Nov 15, 2020
Mumbo jumbo write up! When and where did he say what you attributed to him?
Re: "My Past Teachings Against Prosperity Responsible For Poverty Of Deeper Life Mem by hayoholla(m): 12:38pm On Nov 15, 2020
But god is not the author of confusion na, is it not god that ministered to you then?
Re: "My Past Teachings Against Prosperity Responsible For Poverty Of Deeper Life Mem by Mywd: 12:47pm On Nov 15, 2020
If u like,, admit say deeper life pple poor,,, i know a lot of deeper life people who are rich..... Noy everyone is stupid
Re: "My Past Teachings Against Prosperity Responsible For Poverty Of Deeper Life Mem by CodeTemplar: 12:52pm On Nov 15, 2020
obonujoker:
Deeper life members are not poor!

Most work in big organization, have their own companies , the founder of one of the biggest private security companies in Nigeria is a deeper lifer, some of the biggest educational centres are owned by deeper lifers etc
The rich ones exist but many accept poverty and don't see anything bad in it. They assume it adds to righteousness.
Re: "My Past Teachings Against Prosperity Responsible For Poverty Of Deeper Life Mem by CodeTemplar: 12:53pm On Nov 15, 2020
hayoholla:
But god is not the author of confusion na, is it not god that ministered to you then?
Interpretation of the bible doesn't equate to revelation from God on issues.
Re: "My Past Teachings Against Prosperity Responsible For Poverty Of Deeper Life Mem by Nobody: 2:18pm On Nov 15, 2020
CodeTemplar:
Prosperity isn't all about money. A rich man with serious sickness has nothing over the poor man in health.
Let's Stop Dis Pretence 4 Godsake... Who Doesn't Need Money Or Prosperity? Or Is Being Wealthy A Crime? U Can Still Be Healthy & Wealthy Too.
Re: "My Past Teachings Against Prosperity Responsible For Poverty Of Deeper Life Mem by CodeTemplar: 2:22pm On Nov 15, 2020
Truvel:
Let's Stop Dis Pretence 4 Godsake... Who Doesn't Need Money Or Prosperity? Or Is Being Wealthy A Crime? U Can Still Be Healthy & Wealthy Too.
There is no pretense there. Money is needed for exchange of goods and services but that doesn't make more of it always prosperity. It is money gotten the right way that can be termed prosperity and even at that, it is just a part of prosperity.
Re: "My Past Teachings Against Prosperity Responsible For Poverty Of Deeper Life Mem by Sheunma: 3:26pm On Nov 15, 2020
Deeper life members are poor? This is news to me.
Re: "My Past Teachings Against Prosperity Responsible For Poverty Of Deeper Life Mem by Janosky: 3:27pm On Nov 15, 2020
MrDrey:
"My past teachings against prosperity responsible for poverty of Deeper Life members", Kumuyi Admits



If you are looking for one man whose life and ministry have produced tremendous results and consistent impact over the past five decades, look no further than Pastor Williams Folorunsho kumuyi, the General Superintendent, Deeper Life Bible Church, worldwide.

Since 1973, when Deeper Life Church was established by Pastor Kumuyi, the man of God, is no stranger to controversy, for reasons of many controversial doctrines held by the church, dictated by strong aversion to worldliness and all forms of carnality.



Yet, no one can ever deny Pastor Kumuyi’s consistent track as a preacher of holiness, highly vast in the knowledge of the mind of God as revealed in the Bible, humble, clear thinking and man of simplicity.


•Pastor Williams Folorunsho kumuyi,
The Word of God is ever new and refreshing each passing day.. In life, change is a constant phenomenon. Although God’s word contains changeless truths, a Christian’s understanding of scriptural verses of the Bible, is subject to change, particularly, if guided by the Holy Spirit, whom the Bible calls: Teacher, Comforter, Revealer and Advocate.

It is for this reason that doctrines of churches vary from one church to another.


There is a wide world of difference between the word of God and doctrine. While God’s word is sacrosanct and not subject to change, doctrine has to do with our own interpretation of the word of God, which can be subject to change, based on another level of deeper understanding of the scriptures.



Pastor Kumuyi, on a number of occasions, has had cause to publicly admit errors and missteps of the past. He is not the type to deny his own humanness as a fallible individual. Yes, he is a man of God but he is, first and foremost, a man with flesh and blood.

In fact, avid watchers of changing trends in the Deeper Life Church would notice that there has been a seamless transition from what can be likened to the old order and the present new order.

Not too long ago, Kumuyi declared before his teeming congregation that they should expect marked changes in the doctrines and orientation of the church, admitting that some of the doctrines were mere necessities of the past times when there was no complete understanding.


The holiness preacher, while delivering his homily monitored via satellite, admitted that his teachings in the past which focused more on Salvation, but downplayed the issue of Prosperity has been responsible for reasons why a vast majority of Deeper Life brethren are look poor in their physical appearance.

Hear the man of God: “When I look at the faces of some of you, I feel ashamed. I feel embarrassed at the way you look. You look poverty-stricken, You look wretched. And, I don’t feel happy when I see you in this way.


•Pastor Williams Folorunsho kumuyi,
“But I have found out that it is not your fault. It was because of what we taught you in times past. We told you then that only SALVATION is what you need and that PROSPERITY is not what you must crave for.

“But, I tell you today that if you have SALVATION and it’s not going on side-by-side with PROSPERITY, particularly that of the mind and soul, then your SALVATION may be endangered”.


•Pastor Kumuyi and wife
Pastor Kumuyi and his lovely wife

It is probably for these past teachings that account for reasons why there has been a marked differentiation of Deeper Life folks in terms of doctrinal pattern, dressing , mode of worship and even, strangely pious lifestyles.

Indeed, Deeper Life is like no other church, even among those of the Pentecostal extraction.

Pastor Kumuyi’s oft-repeated Mantra especially in the early days of the church, has always been anchored on the Holy Scriptures, Hebrews chapter 13, verse 13 which says: “For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come”.



Therefore, what the Mantra implies is this: living for heaven, is the ultimate goal of the average Deeper Life congregation member.

In 1 Corinthians 13: 11-12, Apostle Paul stated: _” When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known. ”_

Pastor Kumuyi who is expected to attain the Octogenarian status by his next birthday in June 2021, not too long ago gave another shocker with respect to impending major changes church-wide.


•Pastor Kumuyi and Pastor Adeboye of RCCG
Pastor W.F. Kumuyi and Pastor E.A. Adeboye

He said: “These changes will happen before I leave, I mean before I go, I am going to remove everything that I set up that I thought would help Deeper Life and make us holy, and make us sanctified, make us deep, make us deeper. And if I see it is not making us deeper but shallow, before I leave , I will uproot all of them and will present to you a pure church before I leave.

“What we have currently is that the young people fear Marriage Committee more than they fear God, We’ will knock off Marriage Committee because marriage committee is our own making, it is not in the Bible.”

Kumuyi also promised to put an end to women ministry, noting that “Women ministry is our own making, it is not in the Acts of the Apostles. If it is not helping us, if it is going to hinder us, we’ will strike it off.”


Born on June 6, 1941, Pastor W.F. Kumuyiwas born into a Christian family in Erin-Ijesha, Osun State, Nigeria, The young Kumuyi got an experiential knowledge of who Jesus Christ was, and what radical changes He could effect in lives surrendered to His lordship.

He was introduced to the Apostolic Faith Church. Where he heard the Gospel, and believed the word of God on righteousness, temperance, judgment to come, and salvation from sin: He became born again on Sunday, April 5, 1964

Pastor Kumuyi gained admission to study Mathematics at the University of Ibadan, obtaining a first class degree in 1967. He subsequently enrolled for a postgraduate course in Education at the University of Lagos, Lagos. On the completion of his postgraduate study, he became a lecturer in the Department of Mathematics at UNILAG.

The Deeper Life Bible Church, which now has over one million members in more than sixty countries around the world, started as a 15-member Bible Study Group in Pastor Kumuyi’s official quarters at the University of Lagos in August, 1973.

Source:


https://livetimesng.com/my-past-teachings-against-prosperity-responsible-for-poverty-of-deeper-life-members-kumuyi-admits/
Kumuyi slave, OLAADEGBU where are you?

This thread is a befitting testament of your hypocrisy.
After your countless lies on NL, Why is your
Boss god changing his doctrines ?

OLAADEGBU slave to paradigm shifts
cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: "My Past Teachings Against Prosperity Responsible For Poverty Of Deeper Life Mem by Kobojunkie: 1:05am On Nov 16, 2020
obonujoker:
Deeper life members are not poor!

Most work in big organization, have their own companies , the founder of one of the biggest private security companies in Nigeria is a deeper lifer, some of the biggest educational centres are owned by deeper lifers etc
Please stop lying! The man toldd you the truth of his own organisation, yet you choose to offer counter claims to what? Makee the truth that has been revealed irrelevant in some way or form? Let me guess, to the glory of God? undecided
Re: "My Past Teachings Against Prosperity Responsible For Poverty Of Deeper Life Mem by Kobojunkie: 1:09am On Nov 16, 2020
This man and so many others like him have succeeded in deceiving millions for decades in the name of God with doctrines and traditions that are nothing but lies spoken in the name of God. Worse, we see that even when he admits he has misled them with lies in the past, those who follow him do not even think twice about the true implications of what he has admitted to...lying in the name of God, to them and their children, for decades.

God does not lie..only man does that.
Re: "My Past Teachings Against Prosperity Responsible For Poverty Of Deeper Life Mem by CodeTemplar: 5:50am On Nov 16, 2020
^^^^
there is no lie in a erroneous interpretation of bible. Even the top men of God have had to admit to errors in understanding of certain issues.
Re: "My Past Teachings Against Prosperity Responsible For Poverty Of Deeper Life Mem by hayoholla(m): 3:11pm On Nov 16, 2020
CodeTemplar:
Interpretation of the bible doesn't equate to revelation from God on issues.
Are you kidney me grin. Everytime he mounts the pulpit, he should know he is ministering to millions of his followers who consider him as their spiritual teacher, so don't tell pull that excuse out bro.
Re: "My Past Teachings Against Prosperity Responsible For Poverty Of Deeper Life Mem by CodeTemplar: 3:46pm On Nov 16, 2020
hayoholla:
Are you kidney me grin. Everytime he mounts the pulpit, he should know he is ministering to millions of his followers who consider him as their spiritual teacher, so don't tell pull that excuse out bro.
The consideration of men is not the reality of his own understanding, jay jay Otumokpor.
Re: "My Past Teachings Against Prosperity Responsible For Poverty Of Deeper Life Mem by Kobojunkiee: 4:24pm On Nov 16, 2020
hayoholla:
Are you kidney me grin. Everytime he mounts the pulpit, he should know he is ministering to millions of his followers who consider him as their spiritual teacher, so don't tell pull that excuse out bro.
Excuses are all his blind followers can cook up... their very sense of being and existence depends on those excuses.
Re: "My Past Teachings Against Prosperity Responsible For Poverty Of Deeper Life Mem by Kobojunkiee:
SocialJustice:
Breeding a generation of happily poor people. Oga you get fault. You will talk and make it seem like it was God speaking. Religious hustlers.
Abi! I remember attending this church as a child, watching sadly as people threw everything they had away, even their ability to reason for themselves in order to belong to this man's cult. Yes, that is what Deeper Life is, a cult and nothing more. Back then, if you did not try to conform in every way and form, you have marked a sinner and your words might as well be fart to all.

Imagine the many 10s of thousands of souls who have believed this man's lies to their grave - lies that have robbed them of any chance at eternity in Heaven. Yet, here he is, again, casually switching to another lie and his followers there to praise him every step of the way.
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