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| Re: Can A Non Legally Married Couple Seek For A Legal Divorce? by truespeak: 2:23pm On Nov 18, 2020 |
coolsegun2002:The Judge is whom you seek to Wrongfully and Wickedly Exploit! Shame on you! Proverbs 17:23 A wicked man taketh a gift out of the bosom to pervert the ways of judgment: therefore, the lawyer who perverts Judgment, is Priest of Wickedness! You may even Wrongfully Exploit your fellow colleagues and laymen. You surely Exploit your man-made laws, after all you made it, so it is supposed to do your will. But No One including you has Ever Exploited The True Law, God's Own Law Called Natural Law or Equity! For No One Can Escape or Evade This Law! |
| Re: Can A Non Legally Married Couple Seek For A Legal Divorce? by coolsegun2002: 2:31pm On Nov 18, 2020 |
truespeak:Do u even know the context and premise of this discussion? How can u just jump in here and start throwing scriptures indiscriminately .... who does that?? |
| Re: Can A Non Legally Married Couple Seek For A Legal Divorce? by seproperties(m): 8:57pm On Nov 18, 2020 |
coolsegun2002:. A woman that has Abandoned a man for several years showing up immediately the man dies with No Marriage Certificate ,With No Kids for the man ,Can you tell us the likely things that she could come to lay Claim to....As an experienced person who could Help such woman prove to the Court to make a case ...Please we want to learn ........I understand a Woman who had Left a Man with Kids could come back to lay claims for Her Children ,Secondly ,I know a woman who was Legally married to a Man could get back to make a case on the Ground of Maltreatment ,At least when such woman hire a Lawyer like you who can Defend her to get Claims ,Well I still wonder how the Claims of been Maltreated will be made even when the man she Claimed Maltreated her is Dead . The only Mention you made that I don't agree with is this " A woman who had lived with a man for several Years ,Left a man for Several Years ,No Children,No Legal marriage ,Got Married to another man ,Became another man's Responsibility ,After about 13 years when such woman heard that the first man had died .Are you saying such woman has something else she is coming for to Claim ...Well if you still say you can Exploit the law to make a case for Her ,I think Judges that would Listen to U to make the Final Judgement is not the Same as You . |
| Re: Can A Non Legally Married Couple Seek For A Legal Divorce? by coolsegun2002: 9:05pm On Nov 18, 2020 |
seproperties:You are just jumping around the place....the condition here is that this woman has children for the man... the OP and the man’s family wants to cut them off becos she left at some point, therefore, saying she has no claim......that’s wickedness...no one knows why she left....She could have left for any reason...it doesn’t matter...the family of the man should do what is right..... She has claim..her leaving for sometime does not nullify the fact that she has lived with the man for yearS with kids to show....why is this difficult for u people to understand..... |
| Re: Can A Non Legally Married Couple Seek For A Legal Divorce? by knowhowk(op): 9:52pm On Nov 18, 2020 |
coolsegun2002:Hmmm! |
| Re: Can A Non Legally Married Couple Seek For A Legal Divorce? by seproperties(m): 10:06pm On Nov 18, 2020 |
coolsegun2002:. Am not Jumping sir , Yes ,I quite agree with the Points mentioned above ,Yes the woman has the right to come back and Lay claims to the Late man's Property for Her Children , Quotes and Un- Quotes .I repeat for Her Children .Secondly .I support your second point ,Am Against the idea of the Family of the Deceased man trying not to give her Children there Right . They must . Thirdly Am not also against a legally Married Woman who has no Children coming back to lay Claims if both were not Legally Divorced before the man Dies .The only Area I Do not agree with you is you stating that a woman that has no Children for a man ,A woman who is not legally married to a man can come and lay Claim to a deceased man's Property just simply because they once live together before for several years ,Given the excuses that She could have been Maltreated before she left ,Even after such woman had gone to marry another Man ,Haba ,I do not think that is right . Such Woman does not find it deem fit to endeavour to call on the Attension of any of the deceased family to settle the Matter of been Maltreated ,The solution she finds is to Abandon the Man to marry another man ,No Children ,No Legal Marriage , Immediately the news got to her that The man she once lived with together before Dies ,She just rushed down to lay claims ,Given Kangaroos Reason that the Late man Maltreated her when he was Alive now that He is Dead ,She wanted so so part of the Property for herself ...na Waooo |
| Re: Can A Non Legally Married Couple Seek For A Legal Divorce? by coolsegun2002: 10:21pm On Nov 18, 2020 |
seproperties:I never said the above...... I only sighted an example with a Canadian case where a man still had to pay even though kids were not involved....this was just show that the institution of marriage is rigged against men |
| Re: Can A Non Legally Married Couple Seek For A Legal Divorce? by knowhowk(op): 8:18am On Nov 19, 2020 |
coolsegun2002:. You are right Marriage institution is rigged against Men. |
| Re: Can A Non Legally Married Couple Seek For A Legal Divorce? by truespeak: 11:06am On Nov 19, 2020*. Modified: 11:34am On Nov 19, 2020 |
seproperties:You are lying, you desire to learn the way you can obtain the property belonging to another person, since you have No Right To Take It. Therefore, you are asking this Lawyer of Wickedness and Stealing, to show you the way. In reality and in practicality there is No Way unless as I told him earlier that He Must Pervert Justice by Attempting to bribe the judge, Exploit the Lack of Knowledge of the opposing Lawyer and cause his fellow man to Relinquish his Right. Cursed are you and Cursed is he who doeth these things! seproperties:See, that is why I said all that I said to him for there is No Way To Accomplish A Wrong Act. For it is already Provided by The Law, that "Where There is a Wrong, There Must be a Remedy" Therefore, if she had suffered from her husband, it is already Provided that she can Sue for Damages (Compensation) to her person and property at the material time. If and when she fails to Utilize This Provision of Law, She has Agreed to the "maltreatment" and has therefore Acquiesced and Condoned it. Therefore, she loses her Right to complain about it. Therefore, she can not then come, thereafter, to make any claim whatsoever. Estoppel Holds her bound! How much more when he who has done the wrong is dead and can no longer defend himself, this is Fraud for every one Accused must be Present at his Trial. Let me stop here! |
| Re: Can A Non Legally Married Couple Seek For A Legal Divorce? by truespeak: 11:12am On Nov 19, 2020 |
coolsegun2002:Have you seen your works? For now another desires your evil fruit! seproperties:Then he went on to query your position. See, even a lay man queries your position, how then shall you stand when Lawyers come? |
| Re: Can A Non Legally Married Couple Seek For A Legal Divorce? by coolsegun2002: 12:44pm On Nov 19, 2020 |
truespeak:.... Did Jesus instruct u to marry in church..? marriages are approved by families since the days of Abraham....it’s the mordern state that authorized churches and mosques to conduct marriages and give certificate In mordern times. And the same law recognizes marriages without certificate so that women are not cheated just becos there was no paper..... Then u came quoting The Law that "A Stranger to a Contract cannot take the benefit of that contract" donu even know what it means to exploit law?? Aren’t u the one exploiting this law by trying to tag this woman and her children as strangers to the contract(union) becos she left for a while.... .if that’s not wickedness, then I don’t know what is....how can her leaving for a while nullify her years spent and children that came from the union... Since u know how to exploit the law to render a woman’s right and that of her children nullified... I only told u the same law can be used to prove that she left on grounds maltreatment... ... and since then...Uve been quoting Bible like I wanted to cheat u.... where as u are the one that started exploiting the law to render the years a woman spent with a man as non-existent... |
| Re: Can A Non Legally Married Couple Seek For A Legal Divorce? by truespeak: 1:46pm On Nov 19, 2020 |
coolsegun2002:All I have said is clearly stated up above and they stand for me. No Where Did I Ever State, that the Children had No Claim. No Not One! I Clearly Said That the woman had "No Claim" and Neither can she have one, for she is a stranger to the deceased by her departure. So, as I Accused you earlier, it is not beyond you to Lie and Pervert Judgement, and now you have added Falsification of Evidence to your growing list. Alas you have Proven me Right in my Accusation! I Rest! |
| Re: Can A Non Legally Married Couple Seek For A Legal Divorce? by Dtruthspeaker: 1:50pm On Nov 19, 2020 |
truespeak:E no go sweet to come against you for Court oh, |
| Re: Can A Non Legally Married Couple Seek For A Legal Divorce? by coolsegun2002: 1:53pm On Nov 19, 2020 |
truespeak:Here u are claiming u ddnt say so....that means u half knowledge of this issue...Since u ddnt even know the premise of this discussion why rush into conclusion... So it’s ok for u for to use law to render a woman’s years of marriage non-existent.... I know your type..holy than thou only when it’s convenient...Abeg Park well... |
| Re: Can A Non Legally Married Couple Seek For A Legal Divorce? by truespeak: 2:03pm On Nov 19, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker:My Brother, Righteousness and Truth is the Only way to Stand and Stand Surely. Lies and half/quarter truths Shall Surely Cause You to Fall and Break Your Neck as was the end of the Wicked Jezebel. All these I know You know too well! But some of our Brothers do not realise the Great Great Evil they Commit in Perverting and Preventing Justice. For if there be no Justice in the House of Justice, where then Shall Justice be found? If a Law-yer do not Law, then he shall be as the salt that hath lost its saltiness, and shall be thrown away to be trodden under foot. |
| Re: Can A Non Legally Married Couple Seek For A Legal Divorce? by truespeak: 2:07pm On Nov 19, 2020 |
coolsegun2002: Tenant wey don park commot for house na still tenant for your court! Okay oh ![]() |
| Re: Can A Non Legally Married Couple Seek For A Legal Divorce? by coolsegun2002: 2:08pm On Nov 19, 2020 |
truespeak:Oga, shebi u said u have rested....carry ur hypocrisy and double standard else where Abeg |
| Re: Can A Non Legally Married Couple Seek For A Legal Divorce? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:13pm On Nov 19, 2020 |
truespeak: ![]() Woman wey abort dey claim mother? |
| Re: Can A Non Legally Married Couple Seek For A Legal Divorce? by truespeak: 2:15pm On Nov 19, 2020 |
coolsegun2002: ; This is Resting! ![]() Na Madam be this! |
| Re: Can A Non Legally Married Couple Seek For A Legal Divorce? by coolsegun2002: 2:24pm On Nov 19, 2020 |
truespeak:It doesn’t matter...Ur gender doesn’t render ur hypocrisy and double standard nature non-existent... |
| Re: Can A Non Legally Married Couple Seek For A Legal Divorce? by truespeak: 2:30pm On Nov 19, 2020 |
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| Re: Can A Non Legally Married Couple Seek For A Legal Divorce? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:43pm On Nov 19, 2020 |
knowhowk:In advanced countries only which is because their men had enjoyed the Advantages for centuries, so they they have now foolishly given the women instead of doing equality and balance which God Has Provided Already! Which is because the Movers and Shakers know that Balance and Equality Always Quashes All their Evil Works. So, man can not Do nor Allow Balance and Equality. For Balance and Equality is seen as Wickedness to An Evil Man! |
| Re: Can A Non Legally Married Couple Seek For A Legal Divorce? by gnss(m): 5:05pm On Nov 19, 2020 |
coolsegun2002. ,truespeak.....Dtruthspeaker You have all really commented extensively .Well .To me ,I may not be a Lawyer but I still believe Men wrote the Law ,It was not Written by Spirit .Dtruthspeaker ,U have been an Amazing Natural Law Vanguard . I think some Laws needs to be Reviewed ,Humans are Kept Captives by some Laws made in the Olden days ,Imagine a Law made in 1970.The Circumstances , Technology ,Natural and environmental Phenomenon etc Obtainable today were not in those days .Culture plays a very significant role in the life of people in those days ,I know of a Yoruba Culture whereby a Bastard child can be known by subjecting the Mother to some Cultural activities ,Today You hardly see that ,DNA Has taken over .You don't tell a Lady now to Visit your Village and begins all that just to be sure you are the right father of that Child .In those days when a Man Marries two Wives and He dies ,Yoruba Culture says such Property should be shared according to the number of Wives .Imagine one wife has 6 Children and the other woman has 1 Child and such man has two Big Houses ,The IDI- IGI method says the 6 Children should all be given One House ,while the one child from the other woman should be given ,That is Old Culture ,In this Modern day ,You don't expect such to be in Place ,There can never be peace ,Natural Justice ,Equity in such circumstances ,The Ori - Ojori is Most Preferable.Some Old Great grand father's in the Olden time Wish,Idea ,Intension ,Decision ,Judgement Forms the Cultural and customary laws ,We are in the Modern Age ,Yet you see some Lawyers come forth to begin the Legal battle to Defend the IDI- IGI method Citing one should not Bring in Emotions and those Giberish .Well A Woman who decides to Leave a Man with No Children for many Years ,A Woman who was Never Legally Married to a Man ,Upon hearing such Man dies then Rush Down to Lay Claims because he once Lived with the Man before Shouldn't be given anything but Where Bribery ,Corruption ,Twisting of the Law ,Compromised Judges exist ,Such Woman can have her way to Lay to some Claims .I rest My Case . Dtruthspeaker :For Balance and Equality is seen as Wickedness to An Evil Man! This your quote should be on a Gold Plate |
| Re: Can A Non Legally Married Couple Seek For A Legal Divorce? by Dtruthspeaker: 5:58pm On Nov 19, 2020*. Modified: 7:17pm On Nov 19, 2020 |
gnss:Thanks for the glowing report, it is Appreciated and it is my intention for people to know what I know, for Knowledge Indeed brings Life and destroys death. First, we are not taught that Law came before the man eg "man shall live on land and not in water as a fish"; he shall eat meat and herbs and not wood like cankerworms; The female man shall bear the child in her and not the male man. The female shall be attracted to the male and the male shall seek the company of the female (putting aside the debates of homosexuality) All these are examples of laws which man came to meet and neither did he make them, for he could not have made them, since he did not make himself. But, rather we are lied to, that man made The Law. This is Not True because the type of laws which he made, like Toyota and iPhone, is powerless over man and meant to defraud Simple Men who because, they Do Not Know The Authentic Law which God has given all men Already called Natural Law or Equity, which has Provided Everything this Lying Scheming Men tell them that they shall give them, as if it is not theirs Already. All our Natural Rights that are Good are Provided in Natural Law and Protected by it while it Strongly Prohibits and Absolutely Condemns without Reservation, Any Bad or Wicked or Evil Work. But, men do not know these things and the other men who knew these things are Hiding it from you by making their own versions of The Law and selling it to you all. It is these False laws that you have in your mind and you do not know that these false laws where made to hide from you, your Full Natural Rights and Powers Given to you by Good God. And seeing you do not know your Full Rights, your fellow man has Acquired the Power Over You, "To Appear to Dash You Your Rights" as if you never had them before. Which is why their Fake laws Always Require Amendments, and Additions meanwhile, Natural Law Remains Unchanged and Just Waiting for you to Utilise it. And the hilarious thing is that when their Fake law has run into problems or issues, then they Codedly and Sneakily Use Natural Law to Resolve It, by saying "The Law will not allow this, The Law that.." I always used to ask "Which Law Again?" until I discovered that it was Natural Law. Which I have Found has Everything that is True and Good, in it, in a Full and Comprehensive Provision of What is Right and What is Wrong Beyond Any Debate or Contention, which is why today I am indeed an Advocate for it both in Court and out of it. Take this first and later I would present my opinion on the other issues raised in your post. |
| Re: Can A Non Legally Married Couple Seek For A Legal Divorce? by truespeak: 6:34pm On Nov 19, 2020*. Modified: 6:53pm On Nov 19, 2020 |
@gnss In addition to Dtruthspeaker's presentation, here are the examples of the Lies and Fraud of man-made laws, e.g their so called constitution wherein it is commonly said, " Our rights are given us by the constitution" tueh!! Tufiakwaa! As they say: Right To Life. I already had Life and was Living already, so how can man give me what I already have. Meanwhile they have shot themselves in the head by also declaring the Truth of Natural Law,"That a Man can only Give That Which He Has" Or in the reverse, they also declared that "No One Can Give What He Does Not Have" Right To Liberty. I was already born free already as evident in babies and children, so how can you give me freedom which I already possess? Right To Property/Possessions. Can anyone take that which is not his own? Since it is Mine, it is Mine and No One Has the Right To Take My Thing without My Consent. And on this point, these Fraudsters were Compelled To Once More Proclaim the Truth of Natural Law, that "Consent Is the Law". And so it goes for All The Other laws that men have made! That Is Why man-made laws are FRAUDULENT for No man Can Give Me What I Already Have and It Is IMPOSSIBLE For Him To Ever Do So! |
| Re: Can A Non Legally Married Couple Seek For A Legal Divorce? by truespeak: 6:43pm On Nov 19, 2020 |
@gnss It is on these man-made laws alone, that coolsegun can make all his exploits by manoeuvring through all the gullies and lacunas which All man-made laws contain and must contain, for they are ALL FRAUDS! |
| Re: Can A Non Legally Married Couple Seek For A Legal Divorce? by gnss(m): 4:15pm On Nov 20, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker:Hmmm! Speechless |
| Re: Can A Non Legally Married Couple Seek For A Legal Divorce? by Dtruthspeaker: 6:57pm On Nov 20, 2020 |
gnss:Yeah! That's how much your fellow man deprives you of your God given Rights and desires for you to NOT KNOW THEM. It is even rather they want you to beg for even a little piece of them, as if he is the giver of it, meanwhile, it is yours already! |
| Re: Can A Non Legally Married Couple Seek For A Legal Divorce? by tobechi74: 7:12pm On Nov 20, 2020 |
coolsegun2002:I agree with u . Spot on Does any of the man family know of the union? If no, only a DNA test can be used as evidence in court |
| Re: Can A Non Legally Married Couple Seek For A Legal Divorce? by coolsegun2002: 7:22pm On Nov 20, 2020 |
tobechi74:They are not denying he married their son or had children...they are saying she doesn’t have any claim becos she left for a while... |
| Re: Can A Non Legally Married Couple Seek For A Legal Divorce? by gnss(m): 10:41pm On Nov 20, 2020 |
coolsegun2002:. Sir ,You still didn't get this ,It's as simple as ABC ....No one has ever Mentioned she does not have a Claim if she has Children for the Deceased man even if she left for a While and came back on Hearing of the Death of the Man .She can lay Claim through her Children .Why do you keep mixing the whole thing together .What others are saying including me is that a Woman that left a man for several years with No Children does not have the right to come and lay Claim to the deceased man Property on hearing about the News of His Death .The Canadian Issue you are stating even though it Happened does not stand as an Authority or Speaks of Natural Justice and Fairness . You keep saying a Woman who left a man left for a While ,How long is a While ? How do you Justify the time frame a woman that left a man to be a While .Imagine a Woman that left and Abandoned a man for selfish reasons without any intention to get back to the man anymore ,Now she has no Children for the man only for her to rush back once she heard the man is Dead to lay Claims ,saying Oh! I still love the man ,Infact we had just a Little misunderstanding ,I only have to give him a little breathing space so we could sort out Differences ,I never Knew he would die so soonest ... Imagine such woman whom a member of the deceased man knew very well that she has been with another man for several years .Well Lawyers and Judges could have a field of there day in Court .All I know is That A woman with No Children ,That had Abandoned a man for many years is never entitle to Lay claims to a dead man Property just because there was a " Civil Union " |
| Re: Can A Non Legally Married Couple Seek For A Legal Divorce? by coolsegun2002: 11:42pm On Nov 20, 2020 |
gnss:U said this thing ABC...but ur comment is so long and complicated.... You said the Canadian case i mentioned isn’t an Authority and doesn’t Speaks of Natural Justice and Fairness ...... #.did I say it speaks for natural justice and fairness...? Is this topic about God’s judgment? I only mentioned it to tell someone that the institution called marriage is rigged against men, I mentioned that in this thread...so what’s ur point?? U kept talking about Why she left ,How long is a While ? How do you Justify the time frame a woman that left a man to be a While.. #. see.... it’s not my place to analyze the circumstances surrounding the marriage, marriage is complicated, why she left is not really my business.. in fact the OP ddnt say...he just said she left for a while and came back after death....if she ddnt have kids for the man.. she can’t come back naaa. Again ....u said I should Imagine a Woman that left and Abandoned a man for selfish reasons without any intention to get back to the man anymore ,Now she has no Children for the man only for her to rush back once she heard the man is Dead to lay Claims... #What’s the essence of this imagination u asking me to do....that’s not condition the OP gave us.. it’s about someone that came back to lay claims cos she has kids...I don’t get u ooooo ....... Finally u said from the start of this comment that no one is saying she doesn’t have claim, which is what I’ve been sayin from my first comment .....so I don’t really understand the context of this ur comment...I would really love to get you. |
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Tenant wey don park commot for house na still tenant for your court! Okay oh