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Re: Lekki 'Massacre': How Come We Can Only Find Bullet Wounds But No Bullet Hole? by kilonshele101(m): 5:33pm On Nov 19, 2020
aminusodiq:
Lagos State confirmed two dead!!! Did they died of cholera? As much as u claimed u are logical ...ur intelligence is riddled with sentiments, and me as a sane and very logical person wouldn't believe the govt at dis time, especially with the circumstances, lies and deceit that follows suite!!! You cant change the fact that people died... And the government are hiding some truth!


You're funny my friend.


You said you don't believe the government because of their lies and deceit concerning the matter, but you think it's logical to believe everyone that claim to an eyewitness even after our social media was flooded with fake pictures and videos by those who claimed to be eyewitnesses.

My brother, if you're indeed very logical, you should be sceptical like the OP.


We are all humans with emotions, we don't deserve to be deceived by anyone for whatsoever reason.

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Re: Lekki 'Massacre': How Come We Can Only Find Bullet Wounds But No Bullet Hole? by aminusodiq(m): 5:36pm On Nov 19, 2020
kilonshele101:



You're funny my friend.


You said you don't believe the government because of their lies and deceit concerning the matter, but you think it's logical to believe everyone that claim to an eyewitness even after our social media was flooded with fake pictures and videos by those who claimed to be eyewitnesses.

My brother, if you're indeed very logical, you should be sceptical like the OP.
is a life video fake?... Why denounce army presence in the first place? Why will LCC camera stop working at about 7pm? There are so many why's... And in most cases, the ones who tries to cover the truth are the culprit

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Re: Lekki 'Massacre': How Come We Can Only Find Bullet Wounds But No Bullet Hole? by PVision2020(m): 5:55pm On Nov 19, 2020
aminusodiq:
it's a report which might be true or false... Both sides may appear incoherent to you, but if you follow the trend from onset, you will realise that, one side was all shaddy and the otherside was trying so hard to unveil the truth. Reminds me of the king Solomon's case!

Whichever side you may be, I hope you agree with me that one side is plagued with lies, the side lies even when the truth is glaring. Look back to senerios before lekki incidence... And your guess is as good as mine! Shalom
Few minutes after the Lekki incident our social media space was filled with coordinated fake news engineered to incite. It's as if some people either orchestrated the whole event or are extremely smart to envisage the whole event because the pictures kept coming in but were all later debunked. Both sides choose the side of lies and deceit so I'll rather analyse event with no iota of emotion or bias.

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Re: Lekki 'Massacre': How Come We Can Only Find Bullet Wounds But No Bullet Hole? by iamDrRhymes(m): 6:03pm On Nov 19, 2020
PVision2020:

Few minutes after the Lekki incident our social media space was filled with coordinated fake news engineered to incite. It's as if some people either orchestrated the whole event or are extremely smart to envisage the whole event because the pictures kept coming in but were all later debunked. Both sides choose the side of lies and deceit so I'll rather analyse event with no iota of emotion or bias.


No doubt, the whole event was premeditated. I suspect that some social media influencers were parts of the plans.
Re: Lekki 'Massacre': How Come We Can Only Find Bullet Wounds But No Bullet Hole? by emerged01(m): 6:06pm On Nov 19, 2020
aminusodiq:
it baffles me when people who claim intelligence are devoid of great reasoning!
An average Nigerian soldier shld be taller than a barricade, else they are shooting while lying on ground, there is no way bullets should have hit a barricade.
I understand your opinion of at least finding bullet holes on structures or buildings, but you should understand that it's a large area and with the few soldiers present and some shooting in the air, there is a possibility of no stray bullets hitting walls or structure,

BTW the NA are trained personels, u don't expect them to shoot stray bullets like the godforsaken police!
The government has been so shaddy in their dealings to make sane people like me think otherwise! If you truly have sense, u'll understand that no good deal is done in darkness and subsequently DENIED!!
USE YOUR BRAIN IF YOU TRULY HAVE ONE
Frame 1: bullet recoverd from lekki toll

Frame 2 &3 - blank bullet!!
That guy is silly! The videos are there to watch. Even the NA confirmed shooting but with blank bullets. They were there to do dirty job without traces. As Burutai said they are professionals.

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Re: Lekki 'Massacre': How Come We Can Only Find Bullet Wounds But No Bullet Hole? by limeta(f): 6:08pm On Nov 19, 2020
PVision2020:
As usual the emotional big babies of NL devoid of logical reasoning will come after you.
There were barricades but no bullet holes, we have the stage truck but no bullet holes, no bullet holes on the Lekki plaza itself, no bullets holes or mark on neighboring buildings and objects. For an AK 47 rifle that travel as far as 700m, this must be a mystery.



Ask your self
Why did the government remove the cctv cameras from the gate

Just in case you dont know i tell you
The government knows there are people like you and satanic people like you are the people in government
The reason nigeria is a shit hole .

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Re: Lekki 'Massacre': How Come We Can Only Find Bullet Wounds But No Bullet Hole? by sammy329(m): 6:12pm On Nov 19, 2020
limeta:




Ask your self
Why did the government remove the cctv cameras from the gate

Just in case you dont know i tell you
The government knows there are people like you and satanic people like you are the people in government
The reason nigeria is a shit hole .
The government did not remove the CCTV camera. angry angry

Re: Lekki 'Massacre': How Come We Can Only Find Bullet Wounds But No Bullet Hole? by kilonshele101(m): 6:15pm On Nov 19, 2020
aminusodiq:
is a life video fake?... Why denounce army presence in the first place? Why will LCC camera stop working at about 7pm? There are so many why's... And in most cases, the ones who tries to cover the truth are the culprit
.




Lol
I'm sure personally You didn't see the infamous live video. But you choose to believe it.
And just like you, many Nigerians (only) saw the various fake pictures. Don't pretend you didn't. I can send you screenshots to refresh your memory.

My friend, you can point to 10000 evidences that the government are covering up. But there are evidences too (if not much at least one) that some people are trying to over emphasis the incident.


Look at what you wrote up there, you and your kinds only direct your "WHY" questions to government. When in real sense, the eyewitnesses also have some "WHY" questions to answer, like why random firing Ak47 produced not even a single bullet hole at least on the object they took cover from to avoid being hit by randomly flying bullets?


Our justice orientation is messed up as citizens.


Like I said earlier, at this point, if you're indeed logical, you should be sceptical.

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Re: Lekki 'Massacre': How Come We Can Only Find Bullet Wounds But No Bullet Hole? by Nobody: 6:27pm On Nov 19, 2020
Na wa ooo it's only in Nigeria people will argue so vehemently that a lion is a goat.

Even after you give them enough evidences to prove otherwise, they'll keep doubting till you exhaust all your facts.

Just when you thought they're convinced they'd chip "but the animal has four legs, how come it has four legs if it's not a goat huh? "

Only God can save Nigeria. I discovered recently that the problem is not really the government. This blind support for the government will do us no good.

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Re: Lekki 'Massacre': How Come We Can Only Find Bullet Wounds But No Bullet Hole? by PVision2020(m): 7:15pm On Nov 19, 2020
limeta:




Ask your self
Why did the government remove the cctv cameras from the gate

Just in case you dont know i tell you
The government knows there are people like you and satanic people like you are the people in government
The reason nigeria is a shit hole .
Emotional rants as usual...
I guess you need CCTV cameras to see the impacts of live bullets on objects?
The video footage seen by the panel must be from DSTV...lol

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Re: Lekki 'Massacre': How Come We Can Only Find Bullet Wounds But No Bullet Hole? by Prymestrr(m): 8:28pm On Nov 19, 2020
iamDrRhymes:


Did you read the claim of an eye witness. He said he went to hide behind a car while bullets were flying in the air. He said the person that was hiding with him was shot.

You will agree with me that bullets can travel 100 meters and even more. And you will also agree with me that cars will Atleast be parked around. Why can't we find bullet holes on the barricades?

Mehn.... You're so bereft of common sense. So how many cars and barricades did you check on the morning of 21st October 2020 and didn't find any bullet holes in.... How many dead victims body laying abandoned the morning after did you check and couldn't find any bullet holes in?

You really need your head examined.
Re: Lekki 'Massacre': How Come We Can Only Find Bullet Wounds But No Bullet Hole? by NaMe4: 8:34pm On Nov 19, 2020
iamDrRhymes:


You lack comprehension because you would have seen that I was objective in laying down my sentiments. I never supported anybody, either the government or the acclaimed victims.
Am not mentally defeated like you anyways.

Did you conduct an inspection of the surroundings before stating there were no bullet holes?
Re: Lekki 'Massacre': How Come We Can Only Find Bullet Wounds But No Bullet Hole? by Nobody: 8:37pm On Nov 19, 2020
iamDrRhymes:
Tomorrow we make exactly a month that the acclaimed Lekki Massacre happened (I wasn't there). The claimed event has resulted into wanton destruction of the lives and properties not only in Lagos State but other parts of the country.

So far, we have seen videos and pictures to substantiate the claims of the victims and witnesses and in fact, a internationally reputed news house, CNN claimed to have verified the claims of the victims through their investigative journalism- further asserting that the event really happened.

The Federal Government of Nigeria and the Nigerian Army on the other hand are claiming that the Army were indeed present at the said event but only shot in the air to disperse the crowd not into the crowd as claimed by the eye witnesses and victims. They have however challenged the members of the public to approach the Lagos State Judiciary Panel if they have members of their family or know anyone who lost his/her life at the Lekki Toll Gate. Till now, nobody has come out. Some people has however attributed the absence of witnesses at the panel to FEAR.

Logically, I will tell you that both parties have valid points as we have pictures and video evidences and yet no body to show for it but one thing is certain, a party is saying the truth while the other is covering it. However, a question popped in my mind this morning while ruminating on the claims of both parties and here is the question:

[/b]If indeed the army shot directly at the protesters as claimed, how come that we can not find any bullet holes on structures around Lekki Toll Gate? We all know that, bullet holes are always present at any place where bullets are been shot sporadically but how come we can't find bullet holes on vehicles and buildings around the scene of the acclaimed event.[b]

Tears are not facts, let's reason about this. May the TRUTH PREVAIL!





go get a proper honest job, you cursed dog
Re: Lekki 'Massacre': How Come We Can Only Find Bullet Wounds But No Bullet Hole? by iamDrRhymes(m): 8:38pm On Nov 19, 2020
NaMe4:


Did you conduct an inspection of the surroundings before stating there were no bullet holes?

Prove me wrong. Atleast show me a photo of bullet hole(s) at Lekki Toll gate or remain silent forever.
Re: Lekki 'Massacre': How Come We Can Only Find Bullet Wounds But No Bullet Hole? by Guestlander: 8:43pm On Nov 19, 2020
iamDrRhymes:


God bless you for this. You even went deeper!

Have any gone to the plaza to do any forensic work? All these armchair theorists.
Re: Lekki 'Massacre': How Come We Can Only Find Bullet Wounds But No Bullet Hole? by NaMe4: 8:43pm On Nov 19, 2020
aminusodiq:
it baffles me when people who claim intelligence are devoid of great reasoning!
An average Nigerian soldier shld be taller than a barricade, else they are shooting while lying on ground, there is no way bullets should have hit a barricade.
I understand your opinion of at least finding bullet holes on structures or buildings, but you should understand that it's a large area and with the few soldiers present and some shooting in the air, there is a possibility of no stray bullets hitting walls or structure,

BTW the NA are trained personels, u don't expect them to shoot stray bullets like the godforsaken police!
The government has been so shaddy in their dealings to make sane people like me think otherwise! If you truly have sense, u'll understand that no good deal is done in darkness and subsequently DENIED!!
USE YOUR BRAIN IF YOU TRULY HAVE ONE
Frame 1: bullet recoverd from lekki toll

Frame 2 &3 - blank bullet!!

Bro, just ignore those jokers. They'd never learn.

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Re: Lekki 'Massacre': How Come We Can Only Find Bullet Wounds But No Bullet Hole? by NaMe4: 8:45pm On Nov 19, 2020
iamDrRhymes:


Prove me wrong. Atleast show me a photo of bullet hole(s) at Lekki Toll gate or remain silent forever.


I watched live feeds of the events as they unfolded! And yes, multiple people were shot.
Re: Lekki 'Massacre': How Come We Can Only Find Bullet Wounds But No Bullet Hole? by Minjim: 9:38pm On Nov 19, 2020
iamDrRhymes:


Did you read the claim of an eye witness. He said he went to hide behind a car while bullets were flying in the air. He said the person that was hiding with him was shot.

You will agree with me that bullets can travel 100 meters and even more. And you will also agree with me that cars will Atleast be parked around. Why can't we find bullet holes on the barricades?

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Re: Lekki 'Massacre': How Come We Can Only Find Bullet Wounds But No Bullet Hole? by Malawian(m): 9:50pm On Nov 19, 2020
iamDrRhymes:
Tomorrow we make exactly a month that the acclaimed Lekki Massacre happened (I wasn't there). The claimed event has resulted into wanton destruction of the lives and properties not only in Lagos State but other parts of the country.

So far, we have seen videos and pictures to substantiate the claims of the victims and witnesses and in fact, a internationally reputed news house, CNN claimed to have verified the claims of the victims through their investigative journalism- further asserting that the event really happened.

The Federal Government of Nigeria and the Nigerian Army on the other hand are claiming that the Army were indeed present at the said event but only shot in the air to disperse the crowd not into the crowd as claimed by the eye witnesses and victims. They have however challenged the members of the public to approach the Lagos State Judiciary Panel if they have members of their family or know anyone who lost his/her life at the Lekki Toll Gate. Till now, nobody has come out. Some people has however attributed the absence of witnesses at the panel to FEAR.

Logically, I will tell you that both parties have valid points as we have pictures and video evidences and yet no body to show for it but one thing is certain, a party is saying the truth while the other is covering it. However, a question popped in my mind this morning while ruminating on the claims of both parties and here is the question:

[/b]If indeed the army shot directly at the protesters as claimed, how come that we can not find any bullet holes on structures around Lekki Toll Gate? We all know that, bullet holes are always present at any place where bullets are been shot sporadically but how come we can't find bullet holes on vehicles and buildings around the scene of the acclaimed event.[b]

Tears are not facts, let's reason about this. May the TRUTH PREVAIL!




This one na JJC. Na body you dey find abi? Oya, go ezu river go find them. Like we don't all know the Armed Forces always come with a packing truck to cart away the bodies after they are done. Why didn't the Army video their presence from when they came in to when they left the tollgate.? We all saw them claim they were not even there entirely, before claiming they were invited, then they fire only in the air, then they only used blanks as evidence they fired straight came out. Abegi. They do these things all the time in the east.
Re: Lekki 'Massacre': How Come We Can Only Find Bullet Wounds But No Bullet Hole? by udemzyudex(m): 10:03pm On Nov 19, 2020
iamDrRhymes:


You lack comprehension because you would have seen that I was objective in laying down my sentiments. I never supported anybody, either the government or the acclaimed victims.
Am not mentally defeated like you anyways.

Who is bankrolling you?
Re: Lekki 'Massacre': How Come We Can Only Find Bullet Wounds But No Bullet Hole? by Friend22(m): 10:23pm On Nov 19, 2020
lastempero:
Low budget idiot with his low mental capability, not surprise though because i know Buhari supporters are brain dead.

Some of you are no different from Igbos with eushy wshy reasoning.
If your claims where put before an unbiased forensic scientist your lies will be exposed.

Your hatred for the government won't blind some of us from asking logical questions.
Re: Lekki 'Massacre': How Come We Can Only Find Bullet Wounds But No Bullet Hole? by Friend22(m): 10:31pm On Nov 19, 2020
udemzyudex:


Who is bankrolling you?

Some of you are just too dumb to think straight.
Names you refused to provide.
And the massacre sorry,the shooting you said took place is yet to be substantiated logically.
This as hominem isn't working.

See eh,if some of you want to be acting like sissies who missed their period please do,but to think some of us are as gullible as not go ask questions is just too foolish.

This is not about liking the people on authority is about the truth.

You can't be lying with an unsubstantiated claim.
Re: Lekki 'Massacre': How Come We Can Only Find Bullet Wounds But No Bullet Hole? by limeta(f): 12:10am On Nov 20, 2020
sammy329:
The government did not remove the CCTV camera. angry angry




If the government did not then i suspect your mother inlaw
Re: Lekki 'Massacre': How Come We Can Only Find Bullet Wounds But No Bullet Hole? by SIRTee15: 12:21am On Nov 20, 2020
iamDrRhymes:


No bullet holes around Lekki Toll gate, prove me wrong.

But there were bullet wound on people....
That's all I care about. You can go n look for your bullet hole.
The army should explain how they managed to shoot at people's legs n arms, but made sure the bullets killed nobody.
That's what I want to hear.

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Re: Lekki 'Massacre': How Come We Can Only Find Bullet Wounds But No Bullet Hole? by demmie1: 3:23am On Nov 20, 2020
Op, you are only seeing it at an angle that satisfy you, look at the angle of motive.
From the beginning some strong elements in politics had been trying to turn the protest violent with the use of political thugs, which I hope you saw the videos these same people could have influenced the military to lekki and if so what do you expect to happen?

It was a planned operation, while some of the soldiers were shooting in air one or two could be shooting directly at the protesters with calculated precision that would avoid any evidence. The army was said to have prevented people removing any casualties remember, and there is this video that shows army attacking hospital where casualties are treated.
Re: Lekki 'Massacre': How Come We Can Only Find Bullet Wounds But No Bullet Hole? by udemzyudex(m): 4:30am On Nov 20, 2020
Friend22:


Some of you are just too dumb to think straight.
Names you refused to provide.
And the massacre sorry,the shooting you said took place is yet to be substantiated logically.
This as hominem isn't working.

See eh,if some of you want to be acting like sissies who missed their period please do,but to think some of us are as gullible as not go ask questions is just too foolish.

This is not about liking the people on authority is about the truth.

You can't be lying with an unsubstantiated claim.


Who is bankrolling you too mr smart.
Re: Lekki 'Massacre': How Come We Can Only Find Bullet Wounds But No Bullet Hole? by sammy329(m): 5:29am On Nov 20, 2020
limeta:





If the government did not then i suspect your mother inlaw
the CCTV was played at the judicial panel angry
Re: Lekki 'Massacre': How Come We Can Only Find Bullet Wounds But No Bullet Hole? by oyatz(m): 6:14am On Nov 20, 2020
lastempero:
Low budget idiot with his low mental capability, not surprise though because i know Buhari supporters are brain dead.

Insults/curses/abuses like this offer no sound and logical inputs into the argument for or against the allegations that #Lekki Massacre truly happened.


Table your points why you think that 78 people were indeed killed by soldiers firing live Bullets into this tightly parked crowd of protesters at close range.

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Re: Lekki 'Massacre': How Come We Can Only Find Bullet Wounds But No Bullet Hole? by oyatz(m): 6:23am On Nov 20, 2020
SweetJoystick:

Maybe you should visit the scene and check for bullet marks on buildings and cars. If people were there were hit by bullet, would it still pass and hit other things like cars and buildings? The military shooting there doesn't mean all of them present shot at the crowd. Maybe one or two of them shot at the crowd hence there not being much fatality as suggested by witnesses present on ground that 8 to 15 persons were killed.

1) If bullets are being fired randomly at the protesters, it's impossible that ALL the bullets will only hit Humanbeings, some will hit the plastic barricades, cars, Toll Plaza leaving bullet holes on these in animate objects.

2) If soldiers directly face these tightly parked crowd of protesters and opened fire at such close ranges with live bullets, nothing less than 100 people will be killed. The place will be filled with blood and chartered peices of human flesh.

3) If the CNN satellite images couldn't capture soldiers leaving Bonny Camp for the Lekki Toll Gate, how come the same Satellite imaging could not capture D.J Switch & her colleagues carrying 78 corpses over a distance of about 15 meters to the Army trucks?

This story of #Lekki Massacre is not adding up.
Re: Lekki 'Massacre': How Come We Can Only Find Bullet Wounds But No Bullet Hole? by lebienconnu: 6:48am On Nov 20, 2020
While more than 95% of the bullets fired might have truly been into the air as claimed about 5% were fired into the crowd with intent to cause lethal injury.

Even if it was one person that was killed it suffices to take on the Army. The fact remains that live rounds were fired into a compact crowd made up of armless youths peacefully protesting for thier right.
Re: Lekki 'Massacre': How Come We Can Only Find Bullet Wounds But No Bullet Hole? by lastempero: 6:52am On Nov 20, 2020
oyatz:


Insults/curses/abuses like this offer no sound and logical inputs into the argument for or against the allegations that #Lekki Massacre truly happened.


Table your points why you think that 78 people were indeed killed by soldiers firing live Bullets into this tightly parked crowd of protesters at close range.

You can call it insult for all you care, to start with nobody made the claim that 78 people died even dj switch came out and debunked it and i have never set my eye on any video where she claimed that but we all saw life videos of people shot and the some already motionles at the gate. The analysis providedd by cnn is enough for every normal human being to understand that there was killing at the gate.
Re: Lekki 'Massacre': How Come We Can Only Find Bullet Wounds But No Bullet Hole? by Friend22(m): 7:42am On Nov 20, 2020
udemzyudex:


Who is bankrolling you too mr smart.

Lol.
FFK I guess.

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