PerfectlyPerfect:

I'm not in support of gay and lesbianism but I'm in support of the assistance the feminist movement aided to the protesters during the protests

privaldo:


It's not any sort of cultural conservatism, let's look at Iran for example, before the Iranian Muslim revolution, Tehran was a free nation the laws were not stringent but when the Islamists took over they changed Tehran for the worse, suppressing people's right and their way of living. This is a modern era and such cultures/traditions/beliefs need to end for the society to progress further. Saudi Arabia, UAE, Jordan, and Qatar are already trying to amend their beliefs to suit the modern era, so why can't Iran and Iraq do it.

No, I am not being emotional in my reasoning, I am only being logical that one party can't suffer and the other roams free, it happens here in Nigeria a lot. I also am justifying the termination of foetus at a premature stage, rather I am taking about giving a woman her future and the right to choose.

PerfectlyPerfect:

I'm not in support of gay and lesbianism but I'm in support of the assistance the feminist movement aided to the protesters during the protests

Dapcity007:



But they want gay law

Why then do u support them?

SilverNorGold:


My brother, No EQUALITY ANYWHERE.. I challenge you to cite any instance of equality anywhere.. America equal to Nigeria? Or you are equal to President Buhari? True equality DOESN'T AND CAN NEVER EXIST, I CHALLENGE YOU.. Cite any case where we can have true equality at play.

The equality the law is trying to guarantee is equality in opportunity. Women were denied most opportunities due to their gender. White and black people, etc. Even this is extremely difficult to achieve.. The truth is that there are so many factors that will frustrate the equality utopia.. Limited resources, quest for power, evolution/nature.. etc.. For gender, evolution made men in charge in the human kingdom.. The same evolution made women superior in the Spotted Hyena territory.. It didn't make both equal.. Humans are different because we are far the most intelligent animals. We even have people fighting for animal rights.. Some don't even eat animals because they feel they are like humans.. If humans can do this for animals, why not our own kind, the women? Yet it doesn't make us equal..

When shit hits the fan, women will be relegated and men will take the lead.. It's how it is. THAT'S HOW NATURE MADE HUMANS..

I honestly do hope Male hyenas are also fighting for gender equality in their own world.

PerfectlyPerfect:


The feminist movement are asking for the government to legalize LGBT. It's up to the government to approve or disprove. I'm not concerned with their demands for LGBT, I didn't even know about them until the played a big part in the #EndSARS protests. That's where my support for them stand

privaldo:


It's not any sort of cultural conservatism, let's look at Iran for example, before the Iranian Muslim revolution, Tehran was a free nation the laws were not stringent but when the Islamists took over they changed Tehran for the worse, suppressing people's right and their way of living. This is a modern era and such cultures/traditions/beliefs need to end for the society to progress further. Saudi Arabia, UAE, Jordan, and Qatar are already trying to amend their beliefs to suit the modern era, so why can't Iran and Iraq do it.

No, I am not being emotional in my reasoning, I am only being logical that one party can't suffer and the other roams free, it happens here in Nigeria a lot. I also am justifying the termination of foetus at a premature stage, rather I am taking about giving a woman her future and the right to choose.

Dapcity007:



Respect Islam

Culture differs even among Arabs

Stop being sexist!!!!

If the man wants to keep the baby and the lady refuses ?

DEMZEE:


Women's rights is different from feminism

Women's Rights is liberalism while Feminism is Progressivism



Human beings are not equal so I don't understand how male and female can be equal



Women's rights fought for equity and not equality, feminism is fighting for equality and not equity



Equity is giving people equal playing field to showcase their talents and competency amongst others



Equality is allowing affirmative actions and doesn't necessarily need competency

Abortion is only allowed in rape cases, incest and pregnancy leading to death of the woman. It's legalized in Nigeria and it is restrictive to this three cases

In ur case described we either recommend sex education, sterilization, condoms and adoption policies and not abortion

We don't encourage premarital sex and underage sex in Nigeria

privaldo:


No, we can be all equals because we are an advanced race different from the animal kingdom. Women can do all men can do and vice verse, no human being regardless of gender greater or more entitled than another.

You talked of shits hitting the fan, when Covid-19 struck countries that handled it better like Finland, New Zealand and Germany are all being led by this same women who don't deserve to equals to men. Almost every country led by men are battling to control it and are still clueless on what to do.

DEMZEE:


U are just using an occurrence out of billions of occurrences that can b used to justify or not justify abortion.

Do u know majority of abortion cases in Europe and USA is because of irresponsible sex and not rape, incest and pregnancy leading to death of the woman uhn

privaldo:


Of course, I respect every religion not just Islam because each unique in its own way. Cultures can be changed, this is the 21st century and not 179 BC, every thing is open to change.

How are my being sexist? I would love to know. The man wanting to keep the child and the girl refusing is a totally different scenario but to a certain extent the girl reserves the right to decide whether to harbor the child, or not because her and her alone will feel the pains of ore and post child birth.

privaldo:


How is female rights liberalism and feminism progressivism? Can a liberal nation end at being liberal and choose not to progress further?

If you can give women equity why can't you make them your equals, is there anything wrong in it?

If you suggest that women should enforce the use of condoms, I hope you would also educate men who choose to have raw sex at all cost.

What do you call underage sex when the person is above the legal age of 18 and mind you not everybody is religious, after all the country gives freedom of worship and some religions practiced in the country put no ban on the so called pre-marital sex.

privaldo:


No, this is not just a one time occurrence, it happens and we must acknowledge it.

What do you irresponsible sex, or you mean sex between two people of legal age is "irresponsible" because they are unmarried. People can choose to have sex as long as they are above the stipulated legal age, and if a pregnancy occurs the girl reserves the sole right to either give birth to the child or terminate foetus prematurely because nobody would bear the pre or post pregnancy complications with her.

SilverNorGold:
Nice.. Next is to arrest, prosecute and jail them..

By the way, why is "Feminism" still tolerated in Nigeria? If LGBTQ+ is illegal, I don't see why the alien FEMINISM should be allowed.

Nigeria must better by fire, by force!

privaldo:


No, this is not just a one time occurrence, it happens and we must acknowledge it.

What do you irresponsible sex, or you mean sex between two people of legal age is "irresponsible" because they are unmarried. People can choose to have sex as long as they are above the stipulated legal age, and if a pregnancy occurs the girl reserves the sole right to either give birth to the child or terminate foetus prematurely because nobody would bear the pre or post pregnancy complications with her.

Ikillbrokehoes:
Foolish government, we are never in democracy

DEMZEE:


New Zealand had an increase in suicide, child poverty and family domestic violence during the lockdown nd even after it sef

privaldo:


Of course, I respect every religion not just Islam because each unique in its own way. Cultures can be changed, this is the 21st century and not 179 BC, every thing is open to change.

How are my being sexist? I would love to know. The man wanting to keep the child and the girl refusing is a totally different scenario but to a certain extent the girl reserves the right to decide whether to harbor the child, or not because her and her alone will feel the pains of ore and post child birth.

privaldo:


You speak as if, we don't witness suicide in the U.S or even here in Nigeria. Domestic Violence is also one of the issues feminism is trying to tackle and it does not have anything to do with fact that the leader of the country is a woman.

Suicide itself is also not ass result of a female leader, it maybe a case of mental or physiological issues.

Child Poverty or even Poverty itself, occurred everywhere as a result of economic shrinkage during the Covid-19. Poverty has been there even before the Covid-19.

Countries led by men like the U.S experienced high unemployment rate post Covid-19, will you attribute it to the fact that a man is the president of the country or to the virus? All gender can live as equals and the earlier we learn this the better for humanity.

privaldo:


No, we can be all equals because we are an advanced race different from the animal kingdom. Women can do all men can do and vice verse, no human being regardless of gender greater or more entitled than another.

You talked of shits hitting the fan, when Covid-19 struck countries that handled it better like Finland, New Zealand and Germany are all being led by this same women who don't deserve to equals to men. Almost every country led by men are battling to control it and are still clueless on what to do.

privaldo:


You speak as if, we don't witness suicide in the U.S or even here in Nigeria. Domestic Violence is also one of the issues feminism is trying to tackle and it does not have anything to do with fact that the leader of the country is a woman.

Suicide itself is also not ass result of a female leader, it maybe a case of mental or physiological issues.

Child Poverty or even Poverty itself, occurred everywhere as a result of economic shrinkage during the Covid-19. Poverty has been there even before the Covid-19.

Countries led by men like the U.S experienced high unemployment rate post Covid-19, will you attribute it to the fact that a man is the president of the country or to the virus? All gender can live as equals and the earlier we learn this the better for humanity.

Dapcity007:



Is it not the man's child , his DNA, but u side with woman , based on sentiment ?

You are not pro choice, but a sexist abortionist who is a bigot towards men, and do not respect the sanctity of life

privaldo:


So, the man's DNA alone is what is required for the woman to keep the child, omo you guys don't rate women at all.

Yes, I am a sexist, a "pro-choice", an abortionist, a bigot towards men and one who does not respect the sanctity of life. But I must let you know as an egalitarian, I believe what is good for A is also good for B and what is bad for A is also bad for B, unless stated otherwise by any the parties involved.

If bringing a child to this world would destroy a woman's life then of what good is the new life that is to come?

privaldo:


So, the man's DNA alone is what is required for the woman to keep the child, omo you guys don't rate women at all.

Yes, I am a sexist, a "pro-choice", an abortionist, a bigot towards men and one who does not respect the sanctity of life. But I must let you know as an egalitarian, I believe what is good for A is also good for B and what is bad for A is also bad for B, unless stated otherwise by any the parties involved.

If bringing a child to this world would destroy a woman's life then of what good is the new life that is to come?

DEMZEE:


Women's rights movement in history has always been fighting for equity and never for equality.

3rd wave feminist are after equality

An example of a conservative nation turned liberal and turned progressive is France during the French revolution wen they removed every conservative value in the society as at that time.
U can do ur own research about it

We educate both genders on sex education, use of contraceptives, condoms, sterilization and even give them adoption policies

There's no place on earth that they legalize underage sex if u know pls tell me the name of the country

Dapcity007:



What complications ?

Not using contraceptives or sterilization is irresponsible

DEMZEE:


I didn't say it a one time occurrence I said its an occurrence out of billions of occurrences please, get the difference ejor

I am in support of two responsible adults having consensual sex and having it responsibly.

There are so many way to prevent pregnancy and abortion should be an option only if she was raped, had incest and d pregnancy leads up to the death of the woman. Any other reason is irresponsible and stupid

If u can't Bleep responsibly then u shouldn't be fucking at all

That's why we teach sex education, use of contraceptives and sterilization to both genders

privaldo:


I repeat there's nothing like 3rd wave feminist, its all conspiracy theories. So, if women's right movement of the past fought for only equity, it means they should also forgo equality.

I never talked about encouraging underage sex, you can look through my post again, I talked about sex when both parties are of legal age.

privaldo:


I can agree with you on this.