Aconomist post=9675


9351:
This wooden building in Japan stood for over 1,000 years with no fire. But Nigerians are scared to use wood? Monkey people

PharoahIII:
Firstly, the costs associated with building brick walls will be too astronomical, the volume of a 9 inch CMU is nearly 17 times that of a standard brick, which means that it would take 17 times more bricks to build a house than blocks. Now don't forget that walls made of bricks are almost always double-skinned, that is 2 layers of wall joined with mortar. So that means more and more and more mortar. Also the labour costs will be too high, imagine how much bricklayers will charge for laying 17 times more bricks! Not forgetting transportation costs of getting the bricks to the site, as more trips would be required. Thirdly clay bricks are expensive to make, well in Nigeria at least due to the epileptic power supply, as the clay will have to be baked in a kiln for days. Granted there are other alternative energy sources but that's topic for another day. Also in a tropical climate as yours using brick walls will be too hot as brick walls do appear to hold heat better than concrete blocks.
As for wood, well all I can say is that the wood used abroad are 'engineered' to give it maximum strength. Do in conclusion Nigerian builders are not stupid

rossniti:



There goes another conditioned, self hating black man who goes around calling black people "monkeys".

Do you actually realize you're racially abusing your own self and your mother and your family by using such terminology?

Lemme guess...That obvious fact simply flies over your head.

Talk about Dumb and Dumber.

PharoahIII:
Firstly, the costs associated with building brick walls will be too astronomical, the volume of a 9 inch CMU is nearly 17 times that of a standard brick, which means that it would take 17 times more bricks to build a house than blocks. Now don't forget that walls made of bricks are almost always double-skinned, that is 2 layers of wall joined with mortar. So that means more and more and more mortar. Also the labour costs will be too high, imagine how much bricklayers will charge for laying 17 times more bricks! Not forgetting transportation costs of getting the bricks to the site, as more trips would be required. Thirdly clay bricks are expensive to make, well in Nigeria at least due to the epileptic power supply, as the clay will have to be baked in a kiln for days. Granted there are other alternative energy sources but that's topic for another day. Also in a tropical climate as yours using brick walls will be too hot as brick walls do appear to hold heat better than concrete blocks.
As for wood, well all I can say is that the wood used abroad are 'engineered' to give it maximum strength. Do in conclusion Nigerian builders are not stupid

RenaissanceGuy:
I was thinking of this recently. Dangote should channel that his ₦100bn funds for the police this way: 90% of Nigerian police stations should be pulled down and rebuilt with red clay blocks. There wouldn't be any need to paint them with those fake paints and the buildings won't be having cracks within a few months.

waldigit:

Where are the woods? They have gone into almost extinction. Timber felling in reminant forest reserve now being rationed, wood is getting closer to steel now in terms of cost weight for weight. I just completed High pitch roofing of a modern designed roof for 3 bedroom in Lagos now with close to 400k only on woods alone.
We don't have private investment in forestry. The existing stock majorly owned by government is being depleted.
We need good government that understand National development planning.

Blue3k:
There's no market demand for such house. If there was you'd be selling them making money instead of ranting. People generally prefer concrete because it more durable. Wood is more likely to be damaged by fire, moisture and termites.

Aconomist:
What "conditioned" me to hate black people? Was it the relentless failure and incompetence? The pathetic and brainless leadership? The stagnation and stupidity, or the inability to use creativity to solve problems?

kunle75:


You sound very knowledgeable, please lets talk.

Drop me your digits I will reach out to you

Aconomist:
What "conditioned" me to hate black people? Was it the relentless failure and incompetence? The pathetic and brainless leadership? The stagnation and stupidity, or the inability to use creativity to solve problems?

PharoahIII:
I would love to explain to @ aconomist but I don't think any amount of explaining would do as he appears to be neck-deep in his conviction that he is a monkey and the white man is god, first and foremost that is an incredibly small house, secondly and more importantly, the concept of economies of scale is clearly playing out here. Assuming that guy builds 500 of such houses every year, my guess is that his labour costs will be greatly reduced. For example instead of paying each bricklayer a certain amount, say 70 naira, for each brick layed, he could just hire them on a permanent basis and pay them 50k per month. Imagine a brick layer lays 100 blocks a day, at the rate of 70 naira that will be 7000 a day for each bricklayer, and assuming a 5-day working week, that will amount to 140k a month. To save costs he can just employ them on a permanent basis and pay the min wage every month and give them daily targets. So the reason why the houses are cheap, my friend, has got LITTLE to do with building and EVERYTHING to do with economics.

Rossntti:


Your colonialist indoctrination and the western media's white supremacist propaganda output conditioned you to hate yourself, your skin colour, and your mother, and to call yourself a monkey.

You're so conditioned and mentally enslaved, you're an embarrassment.

As you point your finger in racial abuse at black people, guess what the other 4 fingers are doing?

Dunce.

PharoahIII:
Firstly, the costs associated with building brick walls will be too astronomical, the volume of a 9 inch CMU is nearly 17 times that of a standard brick, which means that it would take 17 times more bricks to build a house than blocks. Now don't forget that walls made of bricks are almost always double-skinned, that is 2 layers of wall joined with mortar. So that means more and more and more mortar. Also the labour costs will be too high, imagine how much bricklayers will charge for laying 17 times more bricks! Not forgetting transportation costs of getting the bricks to the site, as more trips would be required. Thirdly clay bricks are expensive to make, well in Nigeria at least due to the epileptic power supply, as the clay will have to be baked in a kiln for days. Granted there are other alternative energy sources but that's topic for another day. Also in a tropical climate as yours using brick walls will be too hot as brick walls do appear to hold heat better than concrete blocks.
As for wood, well all I can say is that the wood used abroad are 'engineered' to give it maximum strength. Do in conclusion Nigerian builders are not stupid

GloShare:


You're right on your cost analysis, but two things you didn't get right.

Brick houses are cooler and not hotter. Those who have loved in mud houses will let you know better.

Also, the woods used in the west are not engineered. They are sourced from oak, and oak can last forever.

Aconomist:
This has nothing to do with ME or MY skin color. I'm simply observing the behavior of other black people and duly noting that they behave like monkeys.

EzzyCarter:
Indeed, OP I'm impressed by your reasoning. I've always wondered the same thing but one thing I have noticed is Nigerians are always scared of deviating from the status quo /norm and trying something new no matter how better an option it is. Thinking outside the box isn't a strong point with Nigerians lol.

CalliDora1:
Depending on the type of wood, it will rot over time with constant rainfall.

Brick is a better idea though.