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Nah eh! No qualms
This is so sophisticated

This your write up further gives credence to the fact that it is a pagan practice.Gods remnants should not lower their standards to conform to this world.God bless you all

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Thanks you so much and be bless ijn

danyero:
When I think of Christmas, a dead Jew birthed by an alledged virgin is certainly not what comes to mind

Very irrational
But don't worry I understand the state of the nation can be sickening

You're a real niggar...one of em biggest I know
If I knew your location I'd give you a bag of Mali kush for your regular maintenance
Jesus issa real niggar that used his format to cash out mega
No.1 ghetto man were blow day year, him even lock im clients keep so pastors now are still cashing out on a steady
For the holidays... here's my gift for you
Enjoy

Driedfish:
Meow meow



What is Christmas without money Even Jesus was given gifts and treasures during his birth.

Truth is bitter

papertrail:
This your write up further gives credence to the fact that it is a pagan practice.Gods remnants should not lower their standards to conform to this world.God bless you all

And the observation of days of the week isn't pagan I suppose?

Odewaleadesoye:
DEFINITION

Christmas, Christian festival celebrating the birth of Jesus.
The English term Christmas (“mass on Christ’s day”) is of fairly recent origin. The earlier term Yule may have derived from the Germanic jōl or the Anglo-Saxon geōl, which referred to the feast of the winter solstice.

The corresponding terms in other languages—Navidad in Spanish, Natale in Italian, Noël in French—all probably denote nativity. The German word Weihnachten denotes “hallowed night.” Since the early 20th century, Christmas has also been a secular family holiday, observed by Christians and non-Christians alike, devoid of Christian elements, and marked by an increasingly elaborate exchange of gifts.

In this secular Christmas celebration, a mythical figure named Santa Claus plays the pivotal role. Christmas is celebrated on Friday, December 25, 2020.


ORIGIN AND DEVELOPMENT

The early Christian community distinguished between the identification of the date of Jesus’ birth and the liturgical celebration of that event. The actual observance of the day of Jesus’ birth was long in coming. In particular, during the first two centuries of Christianity there was strong opposition to recognizing birthdays of martyrs or, for that matter, of Jesus.

Numerous Church Fathers offered sarcastic comments about the pagan custom of celebrating birthdays when, in fact, saints and martyrs should be honoured on the days of their martyrdom—their true “birthdays,” from the church’s perspective.

The precise origin of assigning December 25 as the birth date of Jesus is unclear. The New Testament provides no clues in this regard. December 25 was first identified as the date of Jesus’ birth by Sextus Julius Africanus in 221 and later became the universally accepted date.

One widespread explanation of the origin of this date is that December 25 was the Christianizing of the dies solis invicti nati (“day of the birth of the unconquered sun”), a popular holiday in the Roman Empire that celebrated the winter solstice as a symbol of the resurgence of the sun, the casting away of winter and the heralding of the rebirth of spring and summer.

Indeed, after December 25 had become widely accepted as the date of Jesus’ birth, Christian writers frequently made the connection between the rebirth of the sun and the birth of the Son. One of the difficulties with this view is that it suggests a nonchalant willingness on the part of the Christian church to appropriate a pagan festival when the early church was so intent on distinguishing itself categorically from pagan beliefs and practices.

A second view suggests that December 25 became the date of Jesus’ birth by a priori reasoning that identified the spring equinox as the date of the creation of the world and the fourth day of creation, when the light was created, as the day of Jesus’ conception (i.e., March 25). December 25, nine months later, then became the date of Jesus’ birth. For a long time the celebration of Jesus’ birth was observed in conjunction with his baptism, celebrated January 6.

Christmas began to be widely celebrated with a specific liturgy in the 9th century but did not attain the liturgical importance of either Good Friday or Easter, the other two major Christian holidays.

Roman Catholic churches celebrate the first Christmas mass at midnight, and Protestant churches have increasingly held Christmas candlelight services late on the evening of December 24.

A special service of “lessons and carols” intertwines Christmas carols with Scripture readings narrating salvation history from the Fall in the Garden of Eden to the coming of Christ. The service, inaugurated by E.W. Benson and adopted at the University of Cambridge, has become widely popular.

SIGNIFICANCE/IMPORTANCE

Toward the end of the 18th century the practice of giving gifts to family members became well established.

Theologically, the feast day reminded Christians of God’s gift of Jesus to humankind even as the coming of the Wise Men, or Magi, to Bethlehem suggested that Christmas was somehow related to giving gifts.

The practice of giving gifts, which goes back to the 15th century, contributed to the view that Christmas was a secular holiday focused on family and friends. This was one reason why Puritans in Old and New England opposed the celebration of Christmas and in both England and America succeeded in banning its observance.

The tradition of celebrating Christmas as a secular family holiday is splendidly illustrated by a number of English “Christmas” carols such as “Here We Come A-Wassailing” or “Deck the Halls.” It can also be seen in the practice of sending Christmas cards, which began in England in the 19th century.

Moreover, in countries such as Austria and Germany, the connection between the Christian festival and the family holiday is made by identifying the Christ Child as the giver of gifts to the family.

In some European countries, St. Nicholas appears on his feast day (December 6) bringing modest gifts of candy and other gifts to children.

In North America the pre-Christmas role of the Christian saint Nicholas was transformed, under the influence of the poem “A Visit from St. Nicholas” (or “ ’Twas the Night Before Christmas”), into the increasingly central role of Santa Claus as the source of Christmas gifts for the family. While both name and attire—a version of the traditional dress of bishop—of Santa Claus reveal his Christian roots, and his role of querying children about their past behaviour replicates that of St. Nicholas, he is seen as a secular figure.

In Australia, where people attend open-air concerts of Christmas carols and have their Christmas dinner on the beach, Santa Claus wears red swimming trunks as well as a white beard.

In most European countries, gifts are exchanged on Christmas Eve, December 24, in keeping with the notion that the baby Jesus was born on the night of the 24th.

The morning of December 25, however, has become the time for the exchange of gifts in North America. In 17th- and 18th-century Europe the modest exchange of gifts took place in the early hours of the 25th when the family returned home from the Christmas mass.

When the evening of the 24th became the time for the exchange of gifts, the Christmas mass was set into the late afternoon of that day.

In North America the centrality of the morning of the 25th of December as the time for the family to open presents has led, with the exception of Catholic and some Lutheran and Episcopal churches, to the virtual end of holding church services on that day, a striking illustration of the way societal customs influence liturgical practices.

Given the importance of Christmas as one of the major Christian feast days, most European countries observe, under Christian influence, December 26 as a second Christmas holiday.

This practice recalls the ancient Christian liturgical notion that the celebration of Christmas, as well as that of Easter and of Pentecost, should last the entire week.

The weeklong observance, however, was successively reduced to Christmas day and a single additional holiday on December 26.

Japan serves as illustration of a different sort. In that predominantly Shintō and Buddhist country, the secular aspects of the holiday—Christmas trees and decorations, even the singing of Christmas songs such as “Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer” or “White Christmas”—are widely observed instead of the religious aspects.

Merry Christmas Everyone!!!

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Christmas

Well done. You've just posted unfounded jargons.

Driedfish:
Meow meow



What is Christmas without money Even Jesus was given gifts and treasures during his birth.

What does this mean

Ye celebrate what ye know not

edoairways:
And the observation of days of the week isn't pagan I suppose?

I don't celebrate days of the week.Maybe you do sha

Merry Christmas to all and sundry..

DamnnNiggarr:


Merry Christmas to my friend, brother and hard working mod, lalasticlala your days shall be long on earth, you shall see numerous Christmas' till old age, your life shall not be cut short. I don't know why I'm saying this but I was directed to say it.
Claim it in Jesus mighty name, Amen.

Amen and thanks.

Merry Christmas

papertrail:
I don't celebrate days of the week.Maybe you do sha

But you observe them

edoairways:
But you observe them

I only rest on the seventh day as commanded by God Almighty.

Our Lord and savior is the owner of Christmas.Satan has fallen. Jesus has conquered.

okay..........

olowolekan:
Our Lord and savior is the owner of Christmas.Satan has fallen. Jesus has conquered.

Can you give any scriptural references to back this your claim?

Merry Christmas to all

Lamasta:
Anytime I see DECEMBER 25 alive all I think of is my saviour JESUS CHRIST, the one who is, who was and who is to come, the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end....
December 25, 2021 I will witness it by God's grace.....
Merry Christmas...

God/Allah/Jehovah is the only saviour not Jesus. He is messanger of the Most High

Its Christmas but there are pictures of Santa Claus or father Christmas everywhere. Most part of the world people pay more attention to santa Claus stealing the Show, you can only but wonder if its really a Christian celebration. Just saying

This is a beautiful piece.
Check out my YouTube channel guys I have a video on Christmas...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2Caoely57c

Odewaleadesoye:
DEFINITION

Christmas, Christian festival celebrating the birth of Jesus.
The English term Christmas (“mass on Christ’s day”) is of fairly recent origin. The earlier term Yule may have derived from the Germanic jōl or the Anglo-Saxon geōl, which referred to the feast of the winter solstice.

Yes, that was the winter period when Germanic people celebrated a pagan god by burning wood called Yule. Then they'll give out gifts. Such gift giving traditions are also found in African culture.

The corresponding terms in other languages—Navidad in Spanish, Natale in Italian, Noël in French—all probably denote nativity. The German word Weihnachten denotes “hallowed night.” Since the early 20th century, Christmas has also been a secular family holiday, observed by Christians and non-Christians alike, devoid of Christian elements, and marked by an increasingly elaborate exchange of gifts.

In this secular Christmas celebration, a mythical figure named Santa Claus plays the pivotal role. Christmas is celebrated on Friday, December 25, 2020.

Yule festivity later evolved to become Santa as the symbol, so Santa Claus came in later probably to mask the pagan origin.

ORIGIN AND DEVELOPMENT

The early Christian community distinguished between the identification of the date of Jesus’ birth and the liturgical celebration of that event. The actual observance of the day of Jesus’ birth was long in coming. In particular, during the first two centuries of Christianity there was strong opposition to recognizing birthdays of martyrs or, for that matter, of Jesus.

This is how white people fool you with information. In the first two centuries that the author cited, nobody knew exactly what or who Jesus was. The Jesus story haven't evolved by then. Some people said Jesus was just an ordinary man, others said he was a spirit, some said he was a prophet, others said he was both, others argued he was none. All of them Christians!.

They couldn't fix a day for Jesus celebration because there wasn't even a consensus on who or what Jesus was. How do you fix a birthday for someone only known in a story? The myth was still in evolution that's why they didn't have a day yet. It was only after Rome converted to Christianity that the December 25th day would be added.

Numerous Church Fathers offered sarcastic comments about the pagan custom of celebrating birthdays when, in fact, saints and martyrs should be honoured on the days of their martyrdom—their true “birthdays,” from the church’s perspective.

The precise origin of assigning December 25 as the birth date of Jesus is unclear. The New Testament provides no clues in this regard. December 25 was first identified as the date of Jesus’ birth by Sextus Julius Africanus in 221 and later became the universally accepted date.

One widespread explanation of the origin of this date is that December 25 was the Christianizing of the dies solis invicti nati (“day of the birth of the unconquered sun”), a popular holiday in the Roman Empire that celebrated the winter solstice as a symbol of the resurgence of the sun, the casting away of winter and the heralding of the rebirth of spring and summer.

The writer is deliberately lying when he/she said ''The precise origin of assigning December 25 as the birth date of Jesus is unclear'' when in fact its very clear. The pagan Roman god Sol invictus (unconquerable sun) sun god was also celebrated on same day as the German Yule festivity. Indeed, many other pagan Gods were all celebrated same day i.e on the 25th December corresponding to the winter solstice when light (sun) conquered darkness i.e the sun appearing back in the sky after some days of lack of sunlight. See list of Gods born by virgin on 25th December https://www.nairaland.com/4251378/list-gods-born-virgin-25th

Indeed, after December 25 had become widely accepted as the date of Jesus’ birth, Christian writers frequently made the connection between the rebirth of the sun and the birth of the Son. One of the difficulties with this view is that it suggests a nonchalant willingness on the part of the Christian church to appropriate a pagan festival when the early church was so intent on distinguishing itself categorically from pagan beliefs and practices.

Yes, the December 25th as Jesus's birthday was adapted from pagan traditions that predate Jesus. As a matter of fact, when people resisted belief in Jesus in those days, one church bishop was known to tell them that ''Jesus is no different than the pagan gods you already worship.'' However, that's not the exact quote but I can find it if anybody need it.

A second view suggests that December 25 became the date of Jesus’ birth by a priori reasoning that identified the spring equinox as the date of the creation of the world and the fourth day of creation, when the light was created, as the day of Jesus’ conception (i.e., March 25). December 25, nine months later, then became the date of Jesus’ birth. For a long time the celebration of Jesus’ birth was observed in conjunction with his baptism, celebrated January 6.

This's how you know the author is lying. He just doesn't want to admit the pagan origin. Yes, Christmas originated from the winter solstice, which coincides with Yule day December 25th, Sol invictus day December 25th, and many other pagan Gods even worshipped in ancient Egypt thousands of years before a so called Jesus. All the other gods that predate Jesus were all celebrated same day i.e December 25th as their birthday. Again, see above list of gods born by virgin on 25th December.

Christmas began to be widely celebrated with a specific liturgy in the 9th century but did not attain the liturgical importance of either Good Friday or Easter, the other two major Christian holidays.

Roman Catholic churches celebrate the first Christmas mass at midnight, and Protestant churches have increasingly held Christmas candlelight services late on the evening of December 24.

A special service of “lessons and carols” intertwines Christmas carols with Scripture readings narrating salvation history from the Fall in the Garden of Eden to the coming of Christ. The service, inaugurated by E.W. Benson and adopted at the University of Cambridge, has become widely popular.

Once upon a time, Christmas was even canceled. But its was restarted later.

The rest below is church tradition and no longer deal with the origin of Christmas, so I'll let it slide. I'll leave you with a documentary on the origin of Christmas.

Pagan Origins of Christmas & Tradition History - Full Documentary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-ileaWlJS8

SIGNIFICANCE/IMPORTANCE

Toward the end of the 18th century the practice of giving gifts to family members became well established.

Theologically, the feast day reminded Christians of God’s gift of Jesus to humankind even as the coming of the Wise Men, or Magi, to Bethlehem suggested that Christmas was somehow related to giving gifts.

The practice of giving gifts, which goes back to the 15th century, contributed to the view that Christmas was a secular holiday focused on family and friends. This was one reason why Puritans in Old and New England opposed the celebration of Christmas and in both England and America succeeded in banning its observance.

The tradition of celebrating Christmas as a secular family holiday is splendidly illustrated by a number of English “Christmas” carols such as “Here We Come A-Wassailing” or “Deck the Halls.” It can also be seen in the practice of sending Christmas cards, which began in England in the 19th century.

Moreover, in countries such as Austria and Germany, the connection between the Christian festival and the family holiday is made by identifying the Christ Child as the giver of gifts to the family.

In some European countries, St. Nicholas appears on his feast day (December 6) bringing modest gifts of candy and other gifts to children.

In North America the pre-Christmas role of the Christian saint Nicholas was transformed, under the influence of the poem “A Visit from St. Nicholas” (or “ ’Twas the Night Before Christmas”), into the increasingly central role of Santa Claus as the source of Christmas gifts for the family. While both name and attire—a version of the traditional dress of bishop—of Santa Claus reveal his Christian roots, and his role of querying children about their past behaviour replicates that of St. Nicholas, he is seen as a secular figure.

In Australia, where people attend open-air concerts of Christmas carols and have their Christmas dinner on the beach, Santa Claus wears red swimming trunks as well as a white beard.

In most European countries, gifts are exchanged on Christmas Eve, December 24, in keeping with the notion that the baby Jesus was born on the night of the 24th.

The morning of December 25, however, has become the time for the exchange of gifts in North America. In 17th- and 18th-century Europe the modest exchange of gifts took place in the early hours of the 25th when the family returned home from the Christmas mass.

When the evening of the 24th became the time for the exchange of gifts, the Christmas mass was set into the late afternoon of that day.

In North America the centrality of the morning of the 25th of December as the time for the family to open presents has led, with the exception of Catholic and some Lutheran and Episcopal churches, to the virtual end of holding church services on that day, a striking illustration of the way societal customs influence liturgical practices.

Given the importance of Christmas as one of the major Christian feast days, most European countries observe, under Christian influence, December 26 as a second Christmas holiday.

This practice recalls the ancient Christian liturgical notion that the celebration of Christmas, as well as that of Easter and of Pentecost, should last the entire week.

The weeklong observance, however, was successively reduced to Christmas day and a single additional holiday on December 26.

Japan serves as illustration of a different sort. In that predominantly Shintō and Buddhist country, the secular aspects of the holiday—Christmas trees and decorations, even the singing of Christmas songs such as “Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer” or “White Christmas”—are widely observed instead of the religious aspects.

Merry Christmas Everyone!!![/quote]

Chrismas as it is observed & celebrated now is church tradition and has nothing to do with idol worship

Choose your day for your idol worship
I chose mine to celebrate the saviour
Abraham has is origin in idolatry yet has soon as he switched to jehovah, is idol background was null & void
That is the application

Odewaleadesoye:
Merry Christmas! @seun, lalasticlala, mynd44, mukina2, dominique and all other hardworking mods.

Christmas as it is been observed & celebrated now is church tradition and has nothing to do with idols
Abraham has his background in idolatry. The moment he recognized Jehovah, his former idol background becomes null & void & of no effect.
That a date dedicated to celebrate the birthday of the saviour is the same date chosen to worship some gods doesn't invalidate the truth that a saviour was born .
The saviour is superior to any gods

More reason why Christians should question the authenticity of their religion - just like how Jesus had evolved from a dark skinned middle Eastern man to a full fledged blue eyed blond white man; along with the many re-written versions of the same Bible.