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baba must be in heaven now looking down on nigerians and laughing quietly to himself while singing this:


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When the subsidy is removed, those making noise on the internet will be expected to be leading the "revolution," or forever be branded cowards.

I don't know of anybody, but a clown that will scream revolution without purpose or ideology. Anyways, maybe "born to rule" terrorist activities like boko haram are what they call revolution.

a prseident that succumb to FIFA but would not answer to the cries of his people
na wow O!

He has no shoe Clue

Some one gave a lateral thinking assignment and as an addendum to the issues raised in that post i would like to type down my 2 cents questions for what its worth:

1: A govt that was challenged to find other means of saving the economy and seems to lazy or just incompetent to be able to do so is suppose to be trusted with judicious use of the cash saved by implementing the subsidy

2: On paper the merits may look good but so does my C.V. and all other developmental programs Nigeria has had since green revolution in the 60's but how many of these developmental programs, SAP inclusive were implemented effectively as it was proposed to the nation?

3: If they know how much trillion will be saved why has it been difficult for them to release a detailed budget with timelines on how much of that money will be spent on what  before what time so their argument can have more weight? or have they not thought of it cause they couldn't be bothered in the first place knowing accountability. monitoring and evaluation are not poplar buzz words to this particular project?? instead he gives all this ambiguous projects with out time lines, (funniest is employing 20,000 out of millions in each state)

4:Considering 1-3 above is it safe to assume their is a bigger picture the govt is not letting us in on

In summary if the dutch disease that has plagued us all these years cos of over reliance on this sector is removal of subsidy the magic wand that would set right all that is wrong in that sector and by extension the nation or innovative, technology driven re-construction of the other sectors of the economy

Some one gave a lateral thinking assignment and as an addendum to the issues raised in that post i would like to type down my 2 cents questions for what its worth:

1: A govt that was challenged to find other means of saving the economy and seems to lazy or just incompetent to be able to do so is suppose to be trusted with judicious use of the cash saved by implementing the subsidy

2: On paper the merits may look good but so does my C.V. and all other developmental programs Nigeria has had since green revolution in the 60's but how many of these developmental programs, SAP inclusive were implemented effectively as it was proposed to the nation?

3: If they know how much trillion will be saved why has it been difficult for them to release a detailed budget with timelines on how much of that money will be spent on what before what time so their argument can have more weight? or have they not thought of it cause they couldn't be bothered in the first place knowing accountability. monitoring and evaluation are not poplar buzz words to this particular project?? instead he gives all this ambiguous projects with out time lines, (funniest is employing 20,000 out of millions in each state)

4:Considering 1-3 above is it safe to assume their is a bigger picture the govt is not letting us in on

In summary if the dutch disease that has plagued us all these years cos of over reliance on this sector is removal of subsidy the magic wand that would set right all that is wrong in that sector and by extension the nation or innovative, technology driven re-construction of the other sectors of the economy

These questions are obviously worth more than 2 cents. One of the most intelligent contributions so far. God bless you.

@ mulumele: If you feel they are worth much more then i guess its purpose is served;Also Thanks for the blessings!

olly pass:
Some one gave a lateral thinking assignment and as an addendum to the issues raised in that post i would like to type down my 2 cents questions for what its worth:

1: A govt that was challenged to find other means of saving the economy and seems to lazy or just incompetent to be able to do so is suppose to be trusted with judicious use of the cash saved by implementing the subsidy

2: On paper the merits may look good but so does my C.V. and all other developmental programs Nigeria has had since green revolution in the 60's but how many of these developmental programs, SAP inclusive were implemented effectively as it was proposed to the nation?

3: If they know how much trillion will be saved why has it been difficult for them to release a detailed budget with timelines on how much of that money will be spent on what  before what time so their argument can have more weight? or have they not thought of it cause they couldn't be bothered in the first place knowing accountability. monitoring and evaluation are not poplar buzz words to this particular project?? instead he gives all this ambiguous projects with out time lines, (funniest is employing 20,000 out of millions in each state)

4:Considering 1-3 above is it safe to assume their is a bigger picture the govt is not letting us in on

In summary if the dutch disease that has plagued us all these years cos of over reliance on this sector is removal of subsidy the magic wand that would set right all that is wrong in that sector and by extension the nation or innovative, technology driven re-construction of the other sectors of the economy

Aside from the bolded, everything above is mere conjecture.

Now to the bolded, the firm answer is, yes. In fact, it is high time Nigerian states and LG's learnt to live without free money; if they were all generating wealth and employment for their people, who would be so bothered about the removal of the oil subsidy?

What we should be concerened about is how to enthrone true federalism and get every unit of govt functioning. That is what obtains in the developed World, no unit of govt goes cap in hand on a monthly basis to central govt.
As an example, the pic below is of a 35MW power station in the UK, owned by 3 London LG's; Lewisham, Southwark, and Greenwich :

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9f/SELCHP.jpg/800px-SELCHP.jpg
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SELCHP

What sort of laziness plagues Nigeria that we cannot cry out for such local development from our states and LG's, instead of scrounging for subsidies and survival handouts from Abuja?

Dr. Jonathan is just too dumb and dogmatic. Why didn't he tell Nigerians that he planned to remove fuel subsidy when he was campaining to be president. How about slashing the allowance of law makers and stopping the monthly allowance to councillors and senators wives?? Shame on all these useless leaders in Nigeria.

nigerian youths are cowards, protest keeh,

only muslims can ever do that, or those in europe

nigerians would continue to suffer,

nigerian youths are cowards, protest keeh,

only muslims can ever do that, or those in europe

nigerians would continue to suffer,

Nigerians would not continue to suffer and mind you we don't need your so called 'muslims' to do it.

fooools, yes what can you all do? he's going to remove it and you all must buy 1 liter for 150 naira or trek to your various destinations all the days of your life in Nigeria, you better choose now you useless 1st class slaves and ediooots

what a way to go jonathan! a dishonorable path indeed!

we are still waiting!

@BEAF well what you have said is true the buttom line is that we have a government who does not want to reduce its spending but are asking us the masses to suffer so that they can get richer, the uk does not have a centre government like we do and so do not need to look to the center, we on the other hand cant do anything till abuja gives a go ahead we do need to revolt and i have a feeling the next time it happens it wont be funny

I m very surprised at the replies here. Subsidy ought to go. There is no way Nigeria should keep paying trillions to subsidize fuel alone while a few people profit from it. I am with the president on this one. It just does not make sense. This beggarly attitude of people has to stop. Blaming govt for everything. . . .Hoping Govt does this . . .Govt does that. Govt go marry wife for you still teach you how to yansh am.

Govt has no business doing business. . . How can a govt be importing fuel and you people say it should continue. . . . . . Everyone Insulting the President here is an enemy of the State and should be disregarded . . . . . You are all Probably ASUU Lecturers who have nothing else to do than to sit here and curse GEJ while waiting for Govt handouts.

Make Govt subsidize Garri too, and subsidize peak milk and sugar for you. That time you go know say you be Nigerian. . . . Make una go protest. . . . I dey my house. Talk is still cheap The last time I checked

yang:
I m very surprised at the replies here. Subsidy ought to go. There is no way Nigeria should keep paying trillions to subsidize fuel alone while a few people profit from it. I am with the president on this one. It just does not make sense. This beggarly attitude of people has to stop. Blaming govt for everything. . . .Hoping Govt does this . . .Govt does that. Govt go marry wife for you still teach you how to yansh am.

Govt has no business doing business. . . How can a govt be importing fuel and you people say it should continue. . . . . . Everyone Insulting the President here is an enemy of the State and should be disregarded . . . . . You are all Probably ASUU Lecturers who have nothing else to do than to sit here and curse GEJ while waiting for Govt handouts.

Make Govt subsidize Garri too, and subsidize peak milk and sugar for you. That time you go know say you be Nigerian. . . . Make una go protest. . . . I dey my house. Talk is still cheap The last time I checked

The masses who pay N65 per litre are also beneficiaries of the subsidy. If there is any cartel diverting the money, it is the duty of the FG and GEJ to disrupt them and bring them all to book.

I shudder when i hear people like you say we are 'begging the government' or 'waiting for handouts'. If you are still living with your mummy and daddy let us know. Some of us here actually pay a large sum of money as taxes to the federal and state governments. In return we are given bad roads, total insecurity, lawless policemen, irregular electricity and pipe borne water.

If you are jobless enough to see it as 'begging', that's your problem. Some of us who are not collecting pocket money from mummy and daddy are actually seriously owed by the Federal government.

PS: Isn't it hilarious that the same FG that wants to remove fuel subsidy to 'fund infrastructure' is the FG that is hell bent on imposing road taxes and toll gates on our highways to collect money for the same 'infrastructure'?

person wey know this ya presi lala should warn am well well because his deceivers are gradually pushing him to the exit door.

Subsidy has already been removed from Diesel and Aviation fuel which are the main input in economy drivers. All industrial heavy machines and home generators run on diesel, what they about to remove is for petrol which are mainly used by light vehicle and generators. If power supply improves to reduce dependence on diesel, economy should survive subsidy removal and be better for it. if and only if, saved fund would not end up in private accounts.

Truth is GEJ and co have probably spent the money via a bloated federal govt that spends an unhealthy chunk of its allocation on administrators administering administrators.

The size of govt should be cut down to a quarter of its size.

The indiscipline of the federal and state govts means any savings from subsidy will be swallowed up by a big, fat govt. My main fear is that this whole katakata may lead to a General Dumoyaro or Brigadier Kolo snatching power "for the good of the country".

Please count me out of your evolution
I started my revolution last year august paying tripple of my internet rate to sensitize people to realise that
odechukwu is not the man for the job
I went further to cancel important buisness engagements to travel miles to register and Vote. As i cast my vote for Gen Buhari, my revolution was over.
If you guys that voted ode needs a revolution to remove him i think it is not my problem

May the gods of our land strike that lettuce called beaf with leprosy and incurable madness for calling tax payers 'beggers'
Every country has incentives for its citizens ranging from health care to unemployment grant and various soft loans including Agricultural subsidy Let alone a country so blessed with free fossil fuel

And that bingo beaf in his kobojunkie wisdom think we dont deserve the only subsidy that stabilizes commodity prices.

I dont blame you i simply blame that cheap C0nd0m that disappointed your father on the day of your conception if not, we wouldnt have a tail wagging local dog mounting the Nairaland podium.

Beaf my consortium commit over 50percent of our profit on logistics,training half baked university graduates to make them employable,buy diesel for electricty and pay Mopol 19 for private security, in the end we commit another 10percent to tax.

Let me make it clear to that body odour beaf im not begging the Govt to judiciously utilize my own sweat. To provide basic amenities that is killing my buisness

Please count me out of your evolution
I started my revolution last year august paying tripple of my internet rate to sensitize people to realise that
odechukwu is not the man for the job
I went further to cancel important buisness engagements to travel miles to register and Vote. As i cast my vote for Gen Buhari, my revolution was over.
If you guys that voted ode needs a revolution to remove him i think it is not my problem

May the gods of our land strike that lettuce called beaf with leprosy and incurable madness for calling tax payers 'beggers'
Every country has incentives for its citizens ranging from health care to unemployment grant and various soft loans including Agricultural subsidy Let alone a country so blessed with free fossil fuel

And that bingo beaf in his kobojunkie wisdom think we dont deserve the only subsidy that stabilizes commodity prices.

I dont blame you i simply blame that cheap C0nd0m that disappointed your father on the day of your conception if not, we wouldnt have a tail wagging local dog mounting the Nairaland podium.

Beaf my consortium commit over 50percent of our profit on logistics,training half baked university graduates to make them employable,buy diesel for electricty and pay Mopol 19 for private security, in the end we commit another 10percent to tax.

Let me make it clear to that body odour beaf im not begging the Govt to judiciously utilize my own sweat. To provide basic amenities that is killing my buisness

Hmmm,

Some walked miles to school barefoot!
The fuel subsidy is time for those who have shoes to sell them!

(If he could do it, so should they, )

Busted!!
Kobojunkie is sleeping with beaf both suffers from the same type of sexually transmitted dementia

Okay beaf and pro-subsidy guys. We get your point, if we don't remove subsidy, our economy will fail and Mr president has said subsidy removal is what is needed to free up resources. Good, ur arguments make sense and the masses should pay for a better Nigeria.
How about the senators and house of representatives. Can they take a 50percent pay cut so we can channel the money into reconstruction and nation building?? Well, gasoline prices are projected to jump up by 100 percent to (130 naira) and with Nigerian economy , cost of living would go up by 100 percent; that means the purchasing power of the masses would go down by 50 percent.
Why don't Jonathan ask the senators and reps to slash their pay and allowance by 50percent cus that move single handedly would free nigeria with billions of naira every year. Why is it that the masses who don't really gain anything from this fake democracy we are practicing are meant to pay the biggest price to keep it running? Why is our leaders not making sacrifices or are they not supposed to be representing us? Why is no one asking these questions or is Abuja not a part of Nigeria anymore?
We run an over bloated government with so much in-efficiencies and instead of trying to cover the loop holes, Jonathan is putting forward this measure, Jonathan is claiming that he will set up departments to alleviate poverty, is that not increasing the size of the government even more?. So we are back to a bigger govt with so many inefficiencies.
I think Jonathan is taking the cowardly way out to save the economy. Plugging the inefficiencies and corruption going on in the subsidy program and demanding the law makers take a pay cut is enough to pay for the subsidy till we have better options cus right now is not the best climate to be removing subsidy.

This GEJ 's incessant vows is becoming unwelcoming. Remove this thing make we hear word jor

brein:
This GEJ 's incessant vows is becoming unwelcoming. Remove this thing make we hear word jor

LOLLL. bros, e go hard oooo. Boys go vex ooooo.

If this ODEH thinks by instructing men in uniform to forestall any revolt by all means,then he is not only delusional but completely and I mean absolutely daft.first the citizens can direct their reps at the assmebly for an "impeachment"move against him on the basis of "incompetency" and then the social unrest commences.I think they are right when they say there is a Demon at aso rock that manipulate the brains of those residing there.
President Jona is completely not himself and requires "violence" to put him straight.

if we take note here, the percentage of us calling for REVOLUTION is critically on the high, but the truth of the matter remains that we Nigerians sadly Very docile people! We prefer suffering,smiling and complianing to God forgetting that he(God) wouldn't do practically every thing for us! We need to put efforts in registering our stand to this Government that seem to have lost contact with the general Public who put them there. The only way out (my personal view) is MASS PROTEST! But again i fear for my country men they would never raise to the occassion! Imagine a poster saying he will have to stock his kitchen should in case those of us jeering for revolt would make true our stand!

otokx:
Mass revolts are not always the best

These are the lies they have put into our head in order to stop our capacity to force change on them. Tell me an advanced country in the world that was not founded on mass revolt or revolution.

It is only thru REVOLUTION that the foundations for nationhood is built. Our problem in Nigeria is that we have not passed through that, because it is only during revolutions that the terms of nationhood are drawn.

You have heard of the American charter; you know of Britain and Magna Carta. These are the bases, the Charter, the agreement that gave rise to the understanding of their government.

India's Independent was a Revolution. Ghana's was because Kwame Nkrumah had was elected from Prison. Later there was also a Rawlings that helped to put it well into people's head (The terms of their nationhood). No one has ever drawn our own Charter. What we have is an amalgam of power hungry thieves.

Until we pass through that, nothing can work. It was only during Revolution that the ordinary masses will come to appreciate what government is all about. It is only after it that the rulers will come to appreciate also that real power belongs to the people (the masses.)

Revolution is like a foundation upon which nations are built.

I challenge any one to give me a progressive nation on Earth without a Revolution, not necessarily by wasting lives. But an forced transition.

Even the democracy that we all shout today, the human rights etc were founded on people's protest. People died to make me and you live.

We must be ready to die (if need be), to secure a better future for those after us. Or we all will ever remain in the mess. And I don't think God will forgive all of us who refused to act.

Because his first command as recorded in the Bible is that we should cultivate (dominate) the earth. It means that we should use our heads and hands to make the world a better place guys.

Ours is not just to lazy around and selfishly "enjoy" all the fun living on the sweet of past generations. We must also "sow", or certainly head to hell on the last day.

Jonathan has forgotten quickly that, is civil society that stood for him during the illness of late Umaru Shehu Yar adua. And he should remember that removal of oil subsidy was not part of his manifesto during his campaign for April presidential election.

Beaf:
Aside from the bolded, everything above is mere conjecture.

Now to the bolded, the firm answer is, yes. In fact, it is high time Nigerian states and LG's learnt to live without free money; if they were all generating wealth and employment for their people, who would be so bothered about the removal of the oil subsidy?

What we should be concerened about is how to enthrone true federalism and get every unit of govt functioning. That is what obtains in the developed World, no unit of govt goes cap in hand on a monthly basis to central govt.
As an example, the pic below is of a 35MW power station in the UK, owned by 3 London LG's; Lewisham, Southwark, and Greenwich :

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9f/SELCHP.jpg/800px-SELCHP.jpg
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SELCHP

What sort of laziness plagues Nigeria that we cannot cry out for such local development from our states and LG's, instead of scrounging for subsidies and survival handouts from Abuja?

If GEJ really meant well, he would not be pushing for subsidy removal but resource control!!!! By the way, do you know that the money saved from subsidy would be shared among the three tier's of Government??

Beaf, I know you are the only one that can answer this question

Since GEJ is confident in his ability to remove the subsidy and he is bent on it, why is he making news on a daily basis with the issue?