Bonesking:
Trash! We’ve heard. Oya Benin and Igala should go and claim their ancestral lands if them get liver.

When the time comes, we will know

EdoDefence:


When the time comes, we will know

Baba don't come online like a madman. You said you own Onitsha down to Anioma abi, then go and claim your ancestral lands? Don't tell me liver dey fail you.
You never claim Igbanke finish which is a stone throw to your witch city na Onitsha dey hungry you. E be like say you want make we obliterate una completely from face of the earth. Inconsequential minorities!

Bonesking:
Baba don't come online ranting like a madman. You said you own the Onitsha down to Anioma abi, then go and claim your ancestral lands? Don't tell me liver dey fail you.
You never claim Igbanke finish which is a stone throw to your witch city na Onitsha dey hungry you. E be like say you want make we obliterate una completely from face of the earth. Inconsequential minorities!

Mr Obliterate if them born you well come try am
Ritualist infested People

Ohaneze ndi Igbo are bunch of selfish individuals who are not alive to their responsibility.When the facts are there yet they allow the Binis to be spreading this falsehood.

EdoDefence:


Mr Obliterate if them born you well come try am
Ritualist infested People

Fear fear! Ok, don't worry nothing will happen to you. Onitsha is even too far, try going to Asaba and say it's Bini ancestral land let's see if you’ll come back alive. When you survive the lynching, then I’ll know if the word ”obliterate” should be used rightly for your people. Clown.

Bonesking:
Fear fear! Ok, don't worry nobody will happen to you. Onitsha is even too far, try going to Asaba and say it's Bini ancestral land let's see if you’ll come back alive. When you survive the lynching, then I’ll know if the word ”obliterate” should be used rightly for your people. Clown.

Na una dey even give this minority scums ammunition to talk rubbish, you're too big for all that insult, my small autonomous community in Ogwashi-uku is enough to obliterate that witchcraft, unproductive and internationally recognized ashawo infested shithole of a state. Nothing about Edo state is pure and organic, they literally stole and appropriated everything in their culture and history from other people including their Oba title and origin (that's why they will forever exist in the shadows of their Yoruba masters).

Bonesking:
Fear fear! Ok, don't worry nobody will happen to you. Onitsha is even too far, try going to Asaba and say it's Bini ancestral land let's see if you’ll come back alive. When you survive the lynching, then I’ll know if the word ”obliterate” should be used rightly for your people. Clown.

Ritualist infested People

AniOmaa:

LWKMD, Imagine the audacity of this useless Benin minority and product of international ashawo duty, cultism and witchcraft factory claiming Onitsha...wetin man no go see for nairaland abeg . The last time your useless empire tried to encroach on and annex Anioma and the rest of Western Igboland, we decisively butchered you pigs all the way from Umunede to Ogwashi-Uku(go learn your history)... I trust my Igbo brothers East of the Niger to unleash their madness on you apes if you overstep your boundaries (even though it's obvious your silly jokes only end here on the internet). Remember it took Biafrans less than 24 hours to annex the whole of Edo state, if you talk too much we the Anioma nation won't even need to stress our Eastern brothers to do the dirty work on you witches and wizards... we go just send small boys from one small local government in my community to wipe out the whole of Edo state from the map of Nigeria, behead your useless Oba and use his ugly head to do "Welcome to Asaba" introduction.

Just like it took python dance to humble the east
Ritualist infested People

Ogbuefi2020:

Those who parade the Benin history are ignorant of the meaning of the word "empire". Empire is not an ethnic nation. Benin empire ruled many other ethnicities during the height of its power during 16th century when oba Esigie of Benin surrendered himself as a Portuguese vassal to get guns. Benin overran yorubaland from Owo to Badagry but you don't see them shouting "we are from Benin" nonsense

Owo has never been defeated It is common knowledge in Yoruba History,

Bendeco2020:

Hehehe... That's not the problem, if i explain with Igbo they will still say that am using google translate

Nwa onye Onicha, nojuo aru. I am from Idemmili, Umuoji dei! Unu bu ndi Onicha nwelu ka ufodu na ime unu si eme omume. Achorom ide ifea na oyibo maka ndi ezi. Unu na alacha nsi ndi Bini maka na unu chelu na fa bu okasi akasi n'ife gbasalu ichi eze.

N'izizi mbu unu bu uzor guo akwukwo, malu ndi oyibo wee chee na ndi ozo bu ndi nzuzu. Tupu ndi oyibo tuo ukwu na ana Onicha unu enwero onu. Unu bu ndi Onicha wee ghalu ejilu malu unu wee lachaa nsi ndi Bini, nyoo. Alu lulu alu. Igbo unu na asu taata bu Igbo Idemmili , Idemmili nkem!

Unu enwero ifele ,biko!

Cc. Bendeco2020

Bonesking:
Ngwanu, kam juo gi ajuju gbasara ndi Onicha mili! Gwam ya na Igbo Julius?
1. Which kindred is the current Obi of Onitsha from?
2. What is the name of the oracle of Onitsha people?

Onicha has ogwugwu shrines just like their Idemmili, Oyi , Ogbaru , Nsugbe and Oyi neighbors. I don't want to say somethings in English because of Bini revisionists who prey on weak minded elements from Onicha and Anioma. I will write undiluted Ide-Ocha Igbo. If Bendeco2020 can't write Igbo Onicha then we have nothing to talk about.

Ogbuefi2020:

Those who parade the Benin history are ignorant of the meaning of the word "empire". Empire is not an ethnic nation. Benin empire ruled many other ethnicities during the height of its power during 16th century when oba Esigie of Benin surrendered himself as a Portuguese vassal to get guns. Benin overran yorubaland from Owo to Badagry but you don't see them shouting "we are from Benin" nonsense

Nothing of such as you pen down existed rather you are giving air to revisionist to breathe.

First and foremost, Bini didn't over-ran owo neither do they to others....

When you over-ran someone it means you have subjugated them internally but you don't over-run someone and still the people your over ran has more influence than you.


That is weakness and not strength.

Bini should history is totally tied to Yorubas and any fabrications written is just mere fabrications and doesn't worth reply. It ends in their local villages.

The people who really over ran communities with strength are the fulanis both in kwara and other parts of north central...

IDENNAA:


Onicha has ogwugwu shrines just like their Idemmili, Oyi , Ogbaru , Nsugbe and Oyi neighbors. I don't want to say somethings in English because of Bini revisionists who prey on weak minded elements from Onicha and Anioma. I will write undiluted Ide-Ocha Igbo. If Bendeco2020 can't write Igbo Onicha then we have nothing to talk about.

Nwanne enwero m ike ikwu ma ndi be anyi esi bini ma obu ma fa esighi.... Ife m kwuru na mbido bu na anyi si delta state (Ika) nwee gafee osimiri (River Niger) nwee bata ebe anyi bi ugbu a bu Onitsha Ado..... Inezie Anya nke oma ifu na anyi na obodo gbara anyi agbatobi enweghi ofu omume ma obu omenani (odinala) Kama na ndi anyi na ha nwere otu Asusu (dialect) na omenala bu ndi Delta Igbo... Isiokwu m ugbu a bu na ebe obula ndi Delta Igbo si nwee bia bu ofu ebe a ka Onicha (Onitsha ) sikwa bia.

IDENNAA:


Nwa onye Onicha, nojuo aru. I am from Idemmili, Umuoji dei! Unu bu ndi Onicha nwelu ka ufodu na ime unu si eme omume. Achorom ide ifea na oyibo maka ndi ezi. Unu na alacha nsi ndi Bini maka na unu chelu na fa bu okasi akasi n'ife gbasalu ichi eze.

N'izizi mbu unu bu uzor guo akwukwo, malu ndi oyibo wee chee na ndi ozo bu ndi nzuzu. Tupu ndi oyibo tuo ukwu na ana Onicha unu enwero onu. Unu bu ndi Onicha wee ghalu ejilu malu unu wee lachaa nsi ndi Bini, nyoo. Alu lulu alu. Igbo unu na asu taata bu Igbo Idemmili , Idemmili nkem!

Unu enwero ifele ,biko!

Cc. Bendeco2020

Nwanne aghotaghim ife ina ako.... Kedu isi mbido okwu gi?


Ibu onye obosi ka ibu onye nkwelle?

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Bonesking:
Fear fear! Ok, don't worry nobody will happen to you. Onitsha is even too far, try going to Asaba and say it's Bini ancestral land let's see if you’ll come back alive. When you survive the lynching, then I’ll know if the word ”obliterate” should be used rightly for your people. Clown.

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IDENNAA:


Nwa onye Onicha, nojuo aru. I am from Idemmili, Umuoji dei! Unu bu ndi Onicha nwelu ka ufodu na ime unu si eme omume. Achorom ide ifea na oyibo maka ndi ezi. Unu na alacha nsi ndi Bini maka na unu chelu na fa bu okasi akasi n'ife gbasalu ichi eze.

N'izizi mbu unu bu uzor guo akwukwo, malu ndi oyibo wee chee na ndi ozo bu ndi nzuzu. Tupu ndi oyibo tuo ukwu na ana Onicha unu enwero onu. Unu bu ndi Onicha wee ghalu ejilu malu unu wee lachaa nsi ndi Bini, nyoo. Alu lulu alu. Igbo unu na asu taata bu Igbo Idemmili , Idemmili nkem!

Unu enwero ifele ,biko!

Cc. Bendeco2020

Bkayyy nwanem, gbata oso bia o. Dalu Idenna. Ndigbo siri na fa si Benin amachaghi Ife. Igbo ka Benin ofuma ofuma . Anyi chi kwara Benin ma chia obodo ndi ofe. Ndi Benin bu ndi kwesiri idi n'ekwu na fa si Igbo bia not the other way round. Enough of this nonsense. Ndigbo Mara nu ife Biko nu

IDENNAA:


Onicha has ogwugwu shrines just like their Idemmili, Oyi , Ogbaru , Nsugbe and Oyi neighbors. I don't want to say somethings in English because of Bini revisionists who prey on weak minded elements from Onicha and Anioma. I will write undiluted Ide-Ocha Igbo. If Bendeco2020 can't write Igbo Onicha then we have nothing to talk about.

Thats good!

Christistruth00:


Owo has never been defeated It is common knowledge in Yoruba History,

Owo was probably never defeated by other yoruba kingdoms, but Benin empire saw the introduction of european weapons, Owo was the greatest casualty of this era, Esigie sold 80% of Owo as slaves to the portuguese who dumped them in Brazil Sugar plantations. THe igbos of Ado na Idu kingdom abandoned their land and moved to interior east, some crossed the Niger, these are the people some ignorant mofos are claiming that they are from Benin. Benin empire far more successful in the west than in the east

Juliusmalema:



Nothing of such as you pen down existed rather you are giving air to revisionist to breathe.

First and foremost, Bini didn't over-ran owo neither do they to others....

When you over-ran someone it means you have subjugated them internally but you don't over-run someone and still the people your over ran has more influence than you.


That is weakness and not strength.

Bini should history is totally tied to Yorubas and any fabrications written is just mere fabrications and doesn't worth reply. It ends in their local villages.

The people who really over ran communities with strength are the fulanis both in kwara and other parts of north central...

Thats the major problem with the Benin bogus history, they achieved great strenght suddenly ridding on shoulders of the Portuguese but collapsed so fast too, now they are clinging on the monentry glory that did not last. All Benin princes who rulled from Owo to Badagry in the west and From Agbor to Ohafia in the east were flushed out like poo immediately they lost the monopoly of guns which gave them the initial advantage. Fulani conquest of Hausas and Yorubas survived till collonial era and have come to stay forever

Ogbuefi2020:

Thats the major problem with the Benin bogus history, they achieved great strenght suddenly ridding on shoulders of the Portuguese but collapsed so fast too, now they are clinging on the monentry glory that did not last. [s]All Benin princes who rulled from Owo to Badagry in the west and From Agbor to Ohafia in the east[/s] were flushed out like poo immediately they lost the monopoly of guns which gave them the initial advantage. Fulani conquest of Hausas and Yorubas survived till collonial era and have come to stay forever

Bini princes didn't rule anywhere. You history is full of falsehood.

I am yet to see Yoruba man agrees that Bini ruled them let alone any prince rather they rubbish such fabrications with facts and backings...


But here you are telling those who cared to listen to your nonsense that unknown and non existent Bini princes ruled up to ohafia...

What an arrant nonsense..


You guys are one of those writing nonsense and will turn around to blame others when they pick holes from so many rubbishes coming out from you guys.


Bad historians.

Juliusmalema:



Bini princes didn't rule anywhere. You history is full of falsehood.

I am yet to see Yoruba man agrees that Bini ruled them let alone any prince rather they rubbish such fabrications with facts and backings...


But here you are telling those who cared to listen to your nonsense that unknown and non existent Bini princes ruled up to ohafia...

What an arrant nonsense..


You guys are one of those writing nonsense and will turn around to blame others when they pick holes from so many rubbishes coming out from you guys.


Bad historians.

well, we don't live in denial over here. Benin prince touched down in Ohafia at the tail end of Benin empire but emergence of Aro sent them parking. ALso know that Benin rulled the whole yoruba tropical rain forest terriory and confined oyo to the savanna. Oyo itself never attained empire status cos it never ruled any non yoruba territory before it was laid waste by Fulanis

Juliusmalema:



Bini princes didn't rule anywhere. You history is full of falsehood.

I am yet to see Yoruba man agrees that Bini ruled them let alone any prince rather they rubbish such fabrications with facts and backings...


But here you are telling those who cared to listen to your nonsense that unknown and non existent Bini princes ruled up to ohafia...

What an arrant nonsense..


You guys are one of those writing nonsense and will turn around to blame others when they pick holes from so many rubbishes coming out from you guys.


Bad historians.

What yoruba chose to agree or not agree is irrelevant. Fact remains that Benin did not just rule all yoruba rain forest regions but completely depopulated it and sold them to Portuguese who took them to Brazil to work in sugar plantations, this happened during the "Sugar Boom" of the 16th century

EdoDefence:


When the time comes, we will know

Abeg make e come during my lifetime. We need more land
If only you know the people you are challenging.
Oga, technically we have nothing to lose. Come to Anambra and see where people are filling up streams to get land for building and you want to challenge us with you expanse flat land.

You are most welcome to bring it on

Ogbuefi2020:

What yoruba chose to agree or not agree is irrelevant. Fact remains that Benin did not just rule all yoruba rain forest regions but completely depopulated it and sold them to Portuguese who took them to Brazil to work in sugar plantations, this happened during the "Sugar Boom" of the 16th century

Oga Bini never had control of anything past Agbor. Even Agbor revolted before the Oba sent his son to reconquer her back.
Bini herself had a bitter history with Ndigbo. How did you think the word "Dimkpa Bini" came about.

Oga Igbo land was a big city of slave hunters those days

Ogbuefi2020:

well, we don't live in denial over here. Benin prince touched down in Ohafia at the tail end of Benin empire but emergence of Aro sent them parking. ALso know that Benin rulled the whole yoruba tropical rain forest terriory and confined oyo to the savanna. Oyo itself never attained empire status cos it never ruled any non yoruba territory before it was laid waste by Fulanis

Well it ends up that no such thing happened. If not then..

1 Give us the name of Bini prince that touched ohafia?

2. Give us the route the Bini prince conquered to reach Ohafia?

3. Give us the after effects upon arriving at Ohafia?

4. When chased back, where did they chase them to and which route did they take running back?


Answer because I can't be dealing with people spreading fictions and moonlight stories.

Juliusmalema:



As far as we are concerned, you can only tell the history of your land and can say what you know about the other which is your opinion and not an authority of the fact.

Malema, I do not know who is included in the "We" in the above post. Any red-blooded Igbo chap who does not fully understood the meaning of "ONICHA" in Igbo lexicon, should approach his or her elders soon.

Ogbuefi2020:

What yoruba chose to agree or not agree is irrelevant. Fact remains that Benin did not just rule all yoruba rain forest regions but completely depopulated it and sold them to Portuguese who took them to Brazil to work in sugar plantations, this happened during the "Sugar Boom" of the 16th century

This is pure fallacy.

You must back up your facts with credible source not gossips.

Ogbuefi2020:

well, we don't live in denial over here. Benin prince touched down in Ohafia at the tail end of Benin empire but emergence of Aro sent them parking. ALso know that Benin rulled the whole yoruba tropical rain forest terriory and confined oyo to the savanna. Oyo itself never attained empire status cos it never ruled any non yoruba territory before it was laid waste by Fulanis

Well there is elements of truth there but you forgot that the path Bini used to reach the border of southern Igboland was not Onitsha Expressway. It was through Itsekiri areas before the emergence of Arọ (their nightmare). Mind you Bini never got into the southern Igbo land. Bini didn't establish anything there because during the height of Bini so called empire was the militarization Arọ and established of her confederacy.

Those days, for some reasons which we are yet to fully Understand. BINI never touched Umueri Clan (Nri) with their environs (Anambra axis) and neither did Arọ ( Arọ touched many parts of Anambra but never touched Anaedo clan and Umueri) . And when I mean Nri, it includes Ogwashi Ukwu-Nri and her environs in present day Delta state.
Everything about Bini expansion towards the core Igboland halted at Agbor because Agbor was too stubborn. They rise against the Empire at any given chance. The only difference between the two was that arọ was more ruthless and derive special pleasure in killing Bini was the main reason the Bini wall was established and Bini directed all her attention to mounting defence on the southern border.
Unlike Bini Arọ had many clans with ruthless soldiers on their call, most notably Afikpo, Ohofia, Abam. Izuogu and his partner in crime Iheme were just slave businessmen but very ruthless.
If not for the coming of the colonialists, Arọ would have gotten to Ife and totally annex Bini before facing off with the caliphate

Bendeco2020:

Nwanne enwero m ike ikwu ma ndi be anyi esi bini ma obu ma fa esighi.... Ife m kwuru na mbido bu na anyi si delta state (Ika) nwee gafee osimiri (River Niger) nwee bata ebe anyi bi ugbu a bu Onitsha Ado..... Inezie Anya nke oma ifu na anyi na obodo gbara anyi agbatobi enweghi ofu omume ma obu omenani (odinala) Kama na ndi anyi na ha nwere otu Asusu (dialect) na omenala bu ndi Delta Igbo... Isiokwu m ugbu a bu na ebe obula ndi Delta Igbo si nwee bia bu ofu ebe a ka Onicha (Onitsha ) sikwa bia.

Nke bu eziokwu bu na ndi gi na fa nwelu ofu omenani bu ndi agbata obi gi, dika Obosi, Nkwelle , Ogidi , Nkpor , Nsugbe na ndi ozo. Soso obele ife ka gi na ndi Igbo no na Delta nwelu. Nwanne, ama unu bu ndi Onicha maluo unu unor. Aburom onye ezi. Udili Igbo unu na asu bu Igbo unu mutalu na aka ndi agbata-obi unu. Onicha anaro asu Igbo Anioma. Obulu na ife m' kwulu bu asi ikowaalu m'. Asusu bu Omenani na odinani n'isi.

Abia na omenani ndi ozo. Anioma anaro agba ofala , fa anaro agba ijele , otu odu m'obu ime nze na ozo etu Onicha si emie. Ndi Anioma na echi mmuor, odi ka ichi ozo.

Anioma anaro eti igba abia-ulor. Isi okwum bulu na ndi omenani fa yilu nke unu no na Anambra, oburo Delta. Biko, gwanu onu onwe unu ezi okwu maka onye chilu ozo kwesilu inwe ugwu , nsopulu na eziokwu.

Ibagodu Anioma, Obodo dika Asaba , Ogwashi Ukwu, Okpanam , Igbuzor na ndi ozo si Anambra wee kwafee Delta.

Unu na eme omume ka ndi ifele na eme. Ojolu njo, biko.

Cc. Bendeco2020

Bkayyy:

Well there is elements of truth there but you forgot that the path Bini used to reach southern Igboland was not Onitsha Expressway. It was through Ndoni Areas before the emergence of Arọ (their nightmare). Bini didn't establish anything there because during the height of Bini so called empire was the militarization Arọ and established of her confederacy.

Those days, for some reasons which we are yet to fully Understand. BINI never touched Umueri Clan (Nri) with their environs (Anambra axis) and neither did Arọ (apart from Anaedo clan and Umueri, Arọ touched many parts of Anambra) . The only difference between the two was that arọ was more ruthless and derive special pleasure in killing Bini was the main reason the Bini wall was established and Bini directed all her attention to mounting defence on the southern border.
Unlike Bini Arọ had many clans with ruthless soldiers on their call, most notably Afikpo, Ohofia, Abam. Izuogu and his partner in crime Iheme were just slave businessmen but very ruthless.
If not for the coming of the colonialists, Arọ would have gotten to Ife and totally annex Bini before facing off with the caliphate

If you say Nri/Eri then you are going too far. Bini never ventured into Anioma. Those western Igbo are blood thirsty and the Bini know this hence their movements were west ward. It's really difficult to fight the Igbo tribes because of their social structures. Having a central leadership makes it easy to conquer a people.

IDENNAA:


If you say Nri/Eri then you are going too far. Bini never ventured into Anioma. Those western Igbo are blood thirsty and the Bini know this hence their movements were west ward. It's really difficult to fight the Igbo tribes because of their social structures. Having a central leadership makes it easy to conquer a people.

I just read it now and noticed the undue misinformation and corrected it. Bini expansion stopped at Agbor and they never got full control of Agbor until the Empire collapsed