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TheKingIsHere:
I surprise sef because shazam suppose to have the speed of Mercury

TheHulk616:
doctor strange gave a masterpiece answer to the question. Potholes doesn't exist in marvel

"potholes" is just cracking me up since

Priapus69:
You clearly haven't seen The Boys or Raised by Wolves

pu7pl3:
"potholes" is just cracking me up since

TheHulk616:
It is a known fact that potholes doesn't exist in marvel movies. I dont know why you guys are denying it

abduleez1:
And who told you I haven't seen both. They're both good but they don't come close to Lovecraft Country.
Only The Boys might be good enough to stand up to Lovecraft Country.

The Boys Season 1 was superb but the season 2 is yet to reach those levels. Got 5 more episodes to round it up.

Skseries:
I think what is DC's greatest strength is also their undoing most times, which is the freedom they give to directors, they do not have a centre vision for their movies, i still don't know how anyone will green light those fight scenes style, even the flying was disgusting, as much as I dont like Snyder movies, his flying effect was dope, what's that poo that patty J did, even in cartoon WW and cheetah fight scenes are always dope, so cheetah renounce her wish? Are we saying there is no longer cheetah in the universe?

Disney will always make big money from everyone bcus of the interconnection btw them.

As bad as captain Marvel was it made a billion bcus u needed to know abt her the moment u hrd she will be in endgame.

DC is just annoying they still do not have a plan and it's a big problem

Skseries:
I don't agree with that, super flew in both movies to fight the villain, they could have added that in there too, if they did they won't have this plot hole they seem to have now


Truth is wonder woman 84 was just a terrible movie IMO, was a big let down, I didn't like captain Marvel that much but I will take it over the WW84 any day any time

philfearon:
Very big problem.

In their defence though, DC has always avoided saying anything about a shared Universe since JL flopped until recently.

Nickshrapnel:
Nwanne, it’s plot holes. And they exist in some marvel movies, check google

abduleez1:
And who told you I haven't seen both. They're both good but they don't come close to Lovecraft Country.
Only The Boys might be good enough to stand up to Lovecraft Country.

The Boys Season 1 was superb but the season 2 is yet to reach those levels. Got 5 more episodes to round it up.

TheHulk616:
thank you for saying the truth

abduleez1:
Yes it will take years......I'm reasoning in 5yrs time Netflix will be running for their lives.

With almost all major studios helming their own Streaming service with exclusive content, the market will be too broken down for Netflix to claim hegemon.
Other Studios also do acquisitions mate. For instance Apple TV+ seems to be the streamer with the most high profile acquisitions for Movies initially intended for theatrical release.

No major studio with a viable streaming Platform license their products again to competitors in 2020. Unless previous contracts before their Streamer got online. Even if one can be stupid enough to lend you their IP it's most likely one that is insignificant and holds no key to the bigger picture.
The only people Netflix can lend from right now is Paramount and Sony. I hear Paramount is planning theirs also.

AT &T and Disney got no money to acquire Netflix presently. It's a ginormous corporation. Don't underestimate their Financial Power. That's the main reason Apple got confidence in getting a Streaming service– their financial Muscle. And they are the only one I think got the wherewithal to Nab Netflix. That's if Investors agree to sell sef.

pu7pl3:
Even Kidflash and impulse are all faster than them...

abduleez1:
Also I don't think ppl are getting Superhero Fatigue yet as Hollywood analysts have been claiming for 2 yrs now. In fact it's CBM craze right now. I think Superhero movies will still wax strong and dominate this Decade. They're even on the Rise as the new normal.

Pointers are in performance of last two yrs:
*Aquaman a largely unknown character to General audiences made over a Billion dollars.
* A Black Superhero Black Panther grossed almost $2bn($1.7bn).
*Joker with Action-less Drama destroyed the holiday charts and awards Buzz. $1bn gross.
*Avengers: Endgame obliterated records and is the highest grosser Ever.
* Spiderman gets its first Billion Dollar gross ever.
* Weak As_s Captain Marvel with shitty acting and wack storyline and portrayals got $1bn.
* Critically destroyed Venom still grossed over $800mn.
* Wonder Woman 1984 still tearing Pandemic Records that even Nolan and Tenet couldn't do, that's with simultaneous Streaming.

With the kind of Ramped up production for DC and HBO content AT&T is doing they can one up Netflix in the long run. They might not yet have the critical mass but they've got the Tier 1 Quality and recognisable Franchises. Also the Crowd Pullers are available to them.
They're playing the long game. Both Disney and WB know they can't just take out Netflix not even Amazon at this point.

What you're also forgetting is acquisition of Talents: Directors, Actors, Screenwriters, Showrunners that will propel their IP. Some of them got massive fanbase, that can help with Promoting and Bolstering their Franchise. Eg. WB with James Gunn, JJ Abrams, James Wan, Matt Reeves etc... Disney~ Feige, George Lucas, Taika Waititi, Elizabeth Olsen, Anthony Mackie etc.

abduleez1:
And who told you I haven't seen both. They're both good but they don't come close to Lovecraft Country.
Only The Boys might be good enough to stand up to Lovecraft Country.

The Boys Season 1 was superb but the season 2 is yet to reach those levels. Got 5 more episodes to round it up.

TheKingIsHere:
Don't be too quick to write off D+ yet, as it has two very popular franchises (Marvel and Star wars) aside it's classic animations and espn. Currently, D+ subscribers has reached 83m(although the cheap subscription fee is a major factor) , which almost half of Netflix 200m subscribers and achieved in less than 1 year+.

HBOmax also is gaining far more grounds despite starting off poorly, being the most expensive streaming service and only available in the US, and they are getting more and more subscribers each day.

As we speak, Netflix is losing a lot of it's beloved TV shows as most are either cancelled or pulled out. For example Chilling adventures of sabrina was cancelled (or quickly ended) by Netflix despite huge popularity. I came to find out that it is a DC owned comic. Meaning WB has the rights to it and might have pulled the plug just like how marvel did with Dare devil. Same thing is likely to happen to Lucifer on Netflix.

Currently, Netflix brasil tweeted to its followers that they are stopping some of their popular shows. Guess the streaming service those shows are going to? Over time, they will lose subscribers of these beloved shows to competition and will be greatly affected in the long run as major studios will keep unplugging and removing their movies/shows from netflix.

Netflix needs to wake up and act fast by releasing top content regularly or face the consequences of the streaming wars in the long run imo

philfearon:
I always say the truth!

Abi you don forget

abduleez1:
Why should we remove Disney+?? They're the Cheapest even tho they're bumping the price up next year and they've got a massive Rise in Subscribers. Those Franchises they've amassed alone is Tantamount to Success~ [ Star Wars, Marvel, Fox, Pixar and Disney].
Through Netflix is far Ahead at this point. It's still early days and they'll be comfortable for now, not until 2022 and the Tides brings its waves along. That year is the precipice.

Even without Disney+ and HBOMax, Netflix got Amazon to think of– which happens to be the only streamer with Hundreds of Millions of Subscribers after Netflix. The LOTR Amazon is releasing ehn, if it truly plays to its strengths it should Rattle Netflix gains and easily puts Amazon on a pedestal of almost equal competition.
I'm just pained AT&T couldn't nab LOTR series, it would have been very easy for world Dominion with HBOMax.

They can help themselves now by Acquiring ailing MGM which is Home to James Bond and willing to sell to the highest bidder now for about $5.5bn. just too bad AT&T is in Neck Deep Indebtedness~ over $150bn.

Nickshrapnel:
There was this scene in JL where WW was falling down the Gotham harbour and couldn’t reach for her sword and Flash helped push it to her. If they had allow her fly in the movie she won’t have struggled to catch the sword. Or maybe the scene was added for cinematic effect

Nickshrapnel:
Do anyone watch the mandalorian here?

philfearon:
Here's the only thing I will say About Wonder Woman:

DC should stop watering down their top heroes. We went from a Warrior and God killer to a cheesy washed down woman who is stuck on an old love. It's quite understandable though. But, what I don't understand is the cheesy fight scenes.

Marvel never watered down Captain America and Thor's fight scenes despite everything. In fact, and I hope I'm not wrong, the best fight scenes in Marvel movies always involved both of them.

BlackManta:
THE PROBLEM WITH WW84

- Director freedom and Patty Jenkins overconfidence

When WB decided to start giving their directors freedom to do what they want to do, every DC fan including myself thought it was a good idea especially when WB already has a bad history of meddling with DC films. Like how they meddled and ruined JL and Suicide Squad.
Unfortunately, like someone pointed out, giving directors creative freedom could be their undoing as well.

We are starting to see a director who has no business having creative freedom. And that person, surprisingly is Patty fvcking Jenkins!

Let me bust your bubble, did you know that the great 3rd act we got in the first WW film is because of WB. Patty Jenkins was against having a big 3rd act fight with Ares and Diana. Maybe the crazy woman wanted a big ass speech instead of a good fight. But WB said no and insisted on a great 3rd act, thanks to WB we didn't get a cheesy ending.

But WB unfortunately drove a wedge between them and Jenkins by changing her movie.

So what did Patty Jenkins do when she was offered creative freedom
This woman fired the team that helped the first movie shine. Getting rid of Alan Heinberg the screenwriter and bringing in Geoff Johns.
Alan Heinberg's sacking finally proved to be a costly mistake.

The big difference between Alan and Johns is that one of them understands Wonder Woman and even wrote one of the best WW comic books...the other guy has never had anything to do with Wonder Woman before.
Geoff Johns handled Green Lantern well and Flash too, his Batman earth one comic book was interesting but he has never touched Wonder Woman before.
So how in the world did Patty Jenkins work with someone who doesn't know jack-shit about Wonder Woman

As if that is not enough reason to not work with him. Take a look at Geoff Johns work outside DC comics, is there anything this guy touched that didn't turn to rubbish

Why hire him

Thanks to Jenkins, Geoff Johns and lack of interference from WB due to 'Directors Freedom'.....the aggressive warrior Wonder Woman we saw in the first movie was replaced with.....that

If you needed someone to help with Wonder Woman, there are a handful of writers you could call. Alan is not the only one that wrote a great Wonder Woman story, there are others too.
What about Zack Snyder, why didn't Jenkins hire him for help. Even Zack gave us a fantastic Wonder Woman in BVS, at least with Zack you know you are getting breathtaking action sequences.

But no....the overconfident Patty Jenkins who wanted to prove that she could deliver without WB supervision went and hired a hack in Geoff Johns.

Patty Jenkins really messed up.

WB should do well to keep her on a short leash next time.
You could give director freedom to James Wan, James Gunn...even Reeves Batman looks promising. Patty Jenkins obviously isn't like these guys. She has proved that she is not someone you give creative freedom to...

Patty Jenkins is a like child that does an awesome job with help from the parents, but when the parents are not there to guide her...she fvcks up.

TonySpike:
About Mandalorian, I really think Dave Filoni should be given full authority over the Star Wars franchise. The guy writes very good Star Wars stories for both animation and live action. His stories are mature and, yet simple. I wasn't surprised to see that he is one of the creative writers for "The Mandalorian". You need to watch his other Star Wars animated series like SW Rebels.

BlackManta:
THE PROBLEM WITH WW84

- Director freedom and Patty Jenkins overconfidence

When WB decided to start giving their directors freedom to do what they want to do, every DC fan including myself thought it was a good idea especially when WB already has a bad history of meddling with DC films. Like how they meddled and ruined JL and Suicide Squad.
Unfortunately, like someone pointed out, giving directors creative freedom could be their undoing as well.

We are starting to see a director who has no business having creative freedom. And that person, surprisingly is Patty fvcking Jenkins!

Let me bust your bubble, did you know that the great 3rd act we got in the first WW film is because of WB. Patty Jenkins was against having a big 3rd act fight with Ares and Diana. Maybe the crazy woman wanted a big ass speech instead of a good fight. But WB said no and insisted on a great 3rd act, thanks to WB we didn't get a cheesy ending.

But WB unfortunately drove a wedge between them and Jenkins by changing her movie.

So what did Patty Jenkins do when she was offered creative freedom
This woman fired the team that helped the first movie shine. Getting rid of Alan Heinberg the screenwriter and bringing in Geoff Johns.
Alan Heinberg's sacking finally proved to be a costly mistake.

The big difference between Alan and Johns is that one of them understands Wonder Woman and even wrote one of the best WW comic books...the other guy has never had anything to do with Wonder Woman before.
Geoff Johns handled Green Lantern well and Flash too, his Batman earth one comic book was interesting but he has never touched Wonder Woman before.
So how in the world did Patty Jenkins work with someone who doesn't know jack-shit about Wonder Woman

As if that is not enough reason to not work with him. Take a look at Geoff Johns work outside DC comics, is there anything this guy touched that didn't turn to rubbish

Why hire him

Thanks to Jenkins, Geoff Johns and lack of interference from WB due to 'Directors Freedom'.....the aggressive warrior Wonder Woman we saw in the first movie was replaced with.....that

If you needed someone to help with Wonder Woman, there are a handful of writers you could call. Alan is not the only one that wrote a great Wonder Woman story, there are others too.
What about Zack Snyder, why didn't Jenkins hire him for help. Even Zack gave us a fantastic Wonder Woman in BVS, at least with Zack you know you are getting breathtaking action sequences.

But no....the overconfident Patty Jenkins who wanted to prove that she could deliver without WB supervision went and hired a hack in Geoff Johns.

Patty Jenkins really messed up.

WB should do well to keep her on a short leash next time.
You could give director freedom to James Wan, James Gunn...even Reeves Batman looks promising. Patty Jenkins obviously isn't like these guys. She has proved that she is not someone you give creative freedom to...

Patty Jenkins is a like child that does an awesome job with help from the parents, but when the parents are not there to guide her...she fvcks up.

philfearon:
Lol. Marvel Comics and Star Wars Franchise can't sustain the service all year long. What of non-fans of both franchises?

Netflix has more than enough content to sustain it for the next ten years... and they're all from versatile contents across the world. Basically, Netflix gets new content each week. User Data has also ensured that Netflix will consistently bring out shows that Trend Globally...e.g the current Barbarians Show.

Netflix isn't built around Superhero movies or a specific franchise. When it comes to global franchises too, Netflix has it all.

Think